Avatar The Last Airbender Town and SK wins!

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Just realized this started...catching up now.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Caught up...Vote Eldrick FTW.

[Songstress]

NotBob!

[seph]

I have been wondering who not bob was. Only bob I heard of was in a moat?

[Turin Turambar]

*peers closely at Seph*

 

 

He seems awfully excited about this game.

 

Watching you, my friend.   Watching you closely.

 wary of Seph in first post. 

 

 

 

Also it's you're. If you're Town. Shortened from you are.

 

I don't know if we can be bestest buddies if I have to editor your posts.

I lol'ed. Me and fufu feel like we can trust ithi!

 

 

She hasn't called anyone mafia yet, I think this is a bit premature.

 

 Did you find it suspicious of Seph? Or do you think that it looks bad for Ithi to not stared Seph down?

 

 

And there we are. Hello Tress - love the teeny tiny bit of Ithi-push.

 

No-one had done anything daft up till that point.

 

True.  But until they do, and you call them out on it....  it's premature.

 

 Her it looks more like you are looking askance at Ithi when it seems you should be more curious about someone you were already suspicious of doing something that didn't make sense.

 

I like this, seph.

 

If Ithi isn't in the mood to kickstart this game, how about this?

 

[v]Ithi[/v]

 Then after a short time you are voting with your previous cautionary read. This looks like a jump on and push. Maybe sensing a bit of apathy from Ithi in the early game.

 

Interesting.

 

Very interesting.

 

*makes mental note*

 This is after Snow switches his vote from Ithi to Seph. What are you noting here? Do you agree with Snow that Seph looks suspect or do you find Snow suspect for his change in stance?

 

 

 

 

Greetings

 

The beard is glorious.

 

FTFY :)

 

 

Editing my posts, definitely suspicious.

 

The AJ is not to be trusted.

 

 

This last bit looks like w/w banter to me. If I am right and Tress is mafia then I will be looking at AJ. 

[Songstress]

 

*peers closely at Seph*

 

 

He seems awfully excited about this game.

 

Watching you, my friend.   Watching you closely.

 wary of Seph in first post. 

 

 

 

Also it's you're. If you're Town. Shortened from you are.

 

I don't know if we can be bestest buddies if I have to editor your posts.

I lol'ed. Me and fufu feel like we can trust ithi!

 

 

She hasn't called anyone mafia yet, I think this is a bit premature.

 

 Did you find it suspicious of Seph? Or do you think that it looks bad for Ithi to not stared Seph down?

 

 

And there we are. Hello Tress - love the teeny tiny bit of Ithi-push.

 

No-one had done anything daft up till that point.

 

True.  But until they do, and you call them out on it....  it's premature.

 

 Her it looks more like you are looking askance at Ithi when it seems you should be more curious about someone you were already suspicious of doing something that didn't make sense.

 

I like this, seph.

 

If Ithi isn't in the mood to kickstart this game, how about this?

 

[v]Ithi[/v]

 Then after a short time you are voting with your previous cautionary read. This looks like a jump on and push. Maybe sensing a bit of apathy from Ithi in the early game.

 

Interesting.

 

Very interesting.

 

*makes mental note*

 This is after Snow switches his vote from Ithi to Seph. What are you noting here? Do you agree with Snow that Seph looks suspect or do you find Snow suspect for his change in stance?

 

 

 

 

Greetings

 

The beard is glorious.

 

FTFY :)

 

 

Editing my posts, definitely suspicious.

 

The AJ is not to be trusted.

 

 

This last bit looks like w/w banter to me. If I am right and Tress is mafia then I will be looking at AJ. 

 

 

 Well, you're not right.

 

Tell me, Turin, just because you decided to try to play against type and not buddy Ithi to start the game, do you think Ithi decided not to play like Town!Ithi intentionally?

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Ithi (2): Tress, Seph

Turin (1): Ithi

Seph (1): John Snow

Tress (1): Turin

AJ (1): Eldrick

Eldrick (1): Not Bob

 

Not Voting (5): Zander, Nol, Sooh, Thane, AJ

 

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

No deadline at this time.

[seph]

Turin the first post was to sooh from Dice, so view it however you want. 

Turin I am wanting your opinion on ithi here.

I found it odd that she just wasn't asking questions like before. apparently it is apart of her meta. I have only played in one game so I have that and hearsay to go off of.

She was poked at twice, with no response. When snow voted for the distancing thing, she just ignored it. It seems off to me.

 

Turin seems like town turin, though I have only played with wolf Turin.

[Turin Turambar]

Just gonna quote this one thing since it has most of the interaction in it.

 

Well this smells dirty as hell

 

 

 

 

Vote Ithi
Because that distancing >.>

I'm excited. It's good to be back

OMG you're here too. It's like we're getting the band back together. Actually can I choose you instead of AJ. We can talk about the vote later and stuff.

Cool, see you on the QT?

Also, I know nothing about avatar, so here's to hoping the scenes aren't relevant

Not sure how to feel here.

Ithi I understand you haven't seen him in awhile. But Why did you let two pokes and a vote go. Me and fufu need mafia hunting ithi.

 

 

No reason not to vote then.

 

I like this, seph.

 

If Ithi isn't in the mood to kickstart this game, how about this?

 

[v]Ithi[/v]

 

4 minutes later jumps on an easy reason to start running up a train, but could just be agreeing with it. Still seems scummy.

 

It has to start somewhere.
[v]ithi[/v]
I feel like john was joking about the qt comment. Anyone else feel the same? It just seemed awkward.

 

Now this is really scummy. Once someone else is willing to vote he (she? I don't know you sorry) jumps right on.

Unvote, vote seph

Im a he.

Sorry if agreeing with my own post is scummy. you and ithi are the only ones I have seen that have posted anything that caught my attention. Whether or not my vote came before or after doesn't matter as it was my reasoning to begin with.

 

Seph, You go from giving Ithi an immediate town read for basically nothing to using statements Snow made to raise an FoS at her. Then vote after Tress does. Then you state that the QT comment by Snow was a joke IYO. (BTW it is be a joke 99.5% of the time) The same comment that you were using to cast doubt at her with. So if it is okay for you to think it was a joke then why can she not think it is also a joke and "let it go". 

 

As to the bolded, that is false. Mafia will float an idea nad hope that a townie picks up on it. Then after a bad lynch they kind of slink away and let the firt voter take the blame. To be fair it does happen the other way as well. Mafia will jump in and take over a townie's idea and Then say something like "Player X made a good case.*shrug*".

 

So let me ask you this: Are you more suspicious of Ithi for letting the comments go. (some of which could be interpreted as jokes) Snow for making the QT comment in the first place or Tress for jumping in with you after she was wary of you earlier? 

[Turin Turambar]

Tress, That is possible in a way. Ithi is as transparent as anyone that actually plays this game if you look at exactly what she types. She does not posture. Read her posts again and don't tell me what they mean to you. The only true game comment so far was her questioning your percieved nudge about premature clearance by Seph. 

 

Seph, you thought the QT comment as a joke. It is possible that she did too. She did address the distancing line snow used. She didn't get right at Snow because he has been away and may not have seen the sign up thread comment.

 

 I think if you give it a little time you will see what you saw from Ithi in the other game.

 

And as far as my buddying Ithi when I choose to...

 

[seph]

Seph, You go from giving Ithi an immediate town read for basically nothing to using statements Snow made to raise an FoS at her. Then vote after Tress does. Then you state that the QT comment by Snow was a joke IYO. (BTW it is be a joke 99.5% of the time) The same comment that you were using to cast doubt at her with. So if it is okay for you to think it was a joke then why can she not think it is also a joke and "let it go". 

 

 

As to the bolded, that is false. Mafia will float an idea nad hope that a townie picks up on it. Then after a bad lynch they kind of slink away and let the firt voter take the blame. To be fair it does happen the other way as well. Mafia will jump in and take over a townie's idea and Then say something like "Player X made a good case.*shrug*".

 

So let me ask you this: Are you more suspicious of Ithi for letting the comments go. (some of which could be interpreted as jokes) Snow for making the QT comment in the first place or Tress for jumping in with you after she was wary of you earlier? 

 

 

^^^is turin^^^

 

I think I messed the quote up.

I was trying to get other's opinions on the qt statement, that part didn't have anything to do with me questioning ithi. That just made me wonder just about him. If its usually a joke, this is the first time I have saw it(sorry I don't get mafia humor yet) 

 

 

Vote Ithi

Because that distancing >.>

 

I'm excited. It's good to be back

This being ignored, plus the reasons I have given are my suspicions. I find this to be the most suspicious.

 

I may be biased towards Tress/buddy her, but she told me how she plays. I guess she could use it against me, but I want to give her the benefit of the doubt right now.

[seph]

Going back to look at the comment she made. 

[Turin Turambar]

What John Snow doesn't know is that Turin has unilaterally decided to abandon me this game and thus he can don a red shirt when the engine canny tak' it any more.

 

 

So I've decided to annoy him by making new friends instead.

 

I'll also be playing a Mafia Game inbetween annoying him.

This was Ithi noting that Snow was probably out of touch in the matter of my deciding to try to reduce TurIthi commentary by playing a different way.(It didn't work) So it was NOT ignored. It was more giving him a benefit of the doubt. Does that help?

 

I don't think I mentioned your Sooh vote except that I noted that Tress used it as a means to suspect you.  

[Songstress]

OK, lemme break this up since it seems Turin needs further explanation and I was being lazy earlier.
 

 

*peers closely at Seph*
 
 
He seems awfully excited about this game.
 
Watching you, my friend.   Watching you closely.

 wary of Seph in first post.

 

No.

 

First post of the game, joking with my mentee from the previous game. And before you pull an Ithi and tell me nothing is ever a joke, sometimes things are jokes. People who know me and how I play know I can't resist smartassery.
 

 

 

 

Also it's you're. If you're Town. Shortened from you are.

I don't know if we can be bestest buddies if I have to editor your posts.

I lol'ed. Me and fufu feel like we can trust ithi!

 

 
She hasn't called anyone mafia yet, I think this is a bit premature.

 

 Did you find it suspicious of Seph? Or do you think that it looks bad for Ithi to not stared Seph down?

 

At that point I found neither of them suspicious, per se. However, Ithi hadn't shown clearly that she was town yet, and I was curious as to why he would be calling her town based on that.
 

 

 

And there we are. Hello Tress - love the teeny tiny bit of Ithi-push.

No-one had done anything daft up till that point.

 
True.  But until they do, and you call them out on it....  it's premature.

 

 Her it looks more like you are looking askance at Ithi when it seems you should be more curious about someone you were already suspicious of doing something that didn't make sense.

 

 

This is Seph's second game ever. Ithi has played a damn sight more games than he has, and every time she's town, she makes it pretty obvious within the first few pages of the game. You're right I'm looking askance at Ithi, and I'm frankly shocked you'd defend her at this point.
 

 

I like this, seph.
 
If Ithi isn't in the mood to kickstart this game, how about this?
 
[v]Ithi[/v]

 Then after a short time you are voting with your previous cautionary read. This looks like a jump on and push. Maybe sensing a bit of apathy from Ithi in the early game.

 

 

See above. Seph was not a cautionary read after the first post of the game. Unlike some people who claim to be able to read alignments from a person's initial post, I have never suggested I have that ability.

I sensed no apathy from Ithi, I sensed Ithi not being willing to put herself out there and kickstart the game like she does every damn time she's town. And since she wasn't willing to do it, I did. Do you see?
 

 

Interesting.
 
Very interesting.
 
*makes mental note*

 This is after Snow switches his vote from Ithi to Seph. What are you noting here? Do you agree with Snow that Seph looks suspect or do you find Snow suspect for his change in stance?

 

I'm noting Snow's decision to jump on Seph. At this point I don't know alignments for Ithi, Seph, or Snow, but this will be something to note for when we get flips, yes?

Does this help your understanding, sir?

[Songstress]

Tress, That is possible in a way. Ithi is as transparent as anyone that actually plays this game if you look at exactly what she types. She does not posture. Read her posts again and don't tell me what they mean to you. The only true game comment so far was her questioning your percieved nudge about premature clearance by Seph.

 

That's the concern, Turin. Town!Ithi typically does not sit around and chitchat to start the game, she dives right in and starts pressuring for reactions.

 

She's not doing that here.

[John Snow]

Vote Ithi

Because that distancing >.>

 

I'm excited. It's good to be back

 

Distancing: IE the distancing that started in signups with Turin. The whole anti TurIthi change

[seph]

SON OF A BISCUIT EATER (page at my post)

 

I just expected more of ithi from what I have heard/seen. The first post was in high hopes, as she is usually good at rooting out mafia if left alive. 

Usually even her idle chatter, or comments are her attempting to get reads. 

 

I think you and snow did clear it up my concerns with the comments to them.... snow I am going to need to to include a spoiler tag for me in your comments please....

 

That isn't enough to make me change my vote for now, it just feels anti ithi. I will wait for tomorrow when she gets in the thread. 

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

I'm surprised there are already 3 votes on someone. They can't all be joke votes. I'm now suspicious of you three.

Why? Do you think it's suspicious to have a serious vote on someone right now?

I haven't seen anything worth having a serious vote yet.

[Songstress]

 

 

I'm surprised there are already 3 votes on someone. They can't all be joke votes. I'm now suspicious of you three.

Why? Do you think it's suspicious to have a serious vote on someone right now?

I haven't seen anything worth having a serious vote yet.

 

 

Well that's lovely for you.

 

Someone has to get started with serious gameplay.  Would you like to venture a guess as to which of the three of us that you're suspicious of have anti-town motives?

[Andrej]

@Turin - I'm told I'm quite the looker, so enjoy the view

 

I'll read the longer quotes with my detail later when I'm back home and on my laptop but the one thing that stands out to me currently is something Seph said.

 

How are you able to make a statement regarding Turin being town when you also state that you've only ever seen him as a wolf?

 

As far as the Ithi thing goes I'm a bit indifferent about it. I don't think it's a negative discussion necessarily and it has generated some activity but it's not something I would consider hugely troubling.

 

@NotBob - Why Eldrick?

[seph]

Aj- It is just my opinion of him. He hasn't done anything out of the normal for town/wolf turin It is just the way he is going about defending Ithi, and his questions.

Although I have only played in 1 game with him I have read parts to 3-4 games, and I have heard numerous people talk about this meta. 

So it is just a early read hunch.

[Andrej]

Could you give me some examples of what you think his normal villager/wolf actions would be?

 

If you've read up and heard numerous opinions on his meta then you should probably be aware that the relationship with Ithi is null and a dead horse that gets beaten every time they play together.

 

Early hunches are fine, but idk about that man. You're using examples that don't really connect with your conclusion and you seem to be forming a read, imo, out of nowhere when frankly you shouldn't really have any idea of how Turin looks in either alignment yet. Gives me the vibe that you know more than you should. You follow me?

[Andrej]

I think we're just waiting for a few more to check in. Looking forward to playing Thane and Nolder again

 

Tress, I don't think I've seen you this... energetic[/i[(?) before in a game. What's up?

 

@John Snow how strong of an indication do you think the 'vote after someone else does first' thing is?

[Andrej]

Bah, format fail.

 

energetic ***

 

[seph]

No not really. I think the post is self explanatory, but I will try to go into more depth here.

first off I don't believe any form of content is a dead horse. There are many things to look out. How turin defends her, how ithi reacts. If turins questions are just for the purpose of defending ithi or have town intentions. Etc... you can analyze anything. And my last game with him, yates, cory, clov dice, tress, darthe etc.

I have probably read it 3-4 times. I am trying to study the game and be prepared.

 

I am kinda addicted here.

 

My examples, why they aren't in depth they are stated. It shows how I reached my conclusion, my read is just based on the experience I have had with him and how others read him.

 

I know turin is a good ,and could fool me. It just feels like town turin. its just a hunch.