Escape From The Carnival Of Horrors! Game Thread [Mafia Win]

[Nolder]

Nolder:  did not read his long drown out response to Sill's pot.  He is not soap boxing about what he does and doesn;t like the way he has as town last couple games we played.  I could kill him too.

 

vote Nolder

Well, I mean, ok but...if that's all it takes to make me town here ya go.

 

 

 

I like Nolder's posts so far.

 

What exactly do you like about his posts? Can you be more specific? He has two. One of them has no actual content. The other one is the mass of quotes he was replying to.

 

IMO, It wasn't a bad post, really. He touched on some things AJ and I were saying. Though I'm not sure how I feel about him saying he might let flavor affect his decisions a bit... cause it's fun. He hasn't really struck me as a jokey yolo player from what I've seen of him. So seems a little out of place to me. Otherwise seems kinda nullish so I'm curious what gave you good feels about it.

 

If you think I'm not a jokey yolo player you haven't played with me enough lol.

 

I do play tryhard most of the time but that wont stop me from doing stupid things that I know are stupid.

I hate to make another reference to MTG (I must be in the mood to play and not realize it) but if you read the article I linked earlier I am a Johnny or maybe a Johnny/Spike. I like to express myself through my game which is why I like making mafia setups even ones I never run because I KNOW they are bad. To take the analogy back to MTG I used to spend hours and hours making decks I would never play with because just putting them together was fun for me. And to take it back to mafia I love, as most people do, making bold maneuvers and getting away with them. When I'm scum I like to craft the biggest lie possible and just go for it. The best example of this is a Star Wars game I was in years ago now where I claimed to be Darth Vader iirc and argued my way out of being lynched for a couple days. Doesn't mean I go around doing that stuff all the time but when I feel like the moment is right I love it.

 

You don't have to take my word for it though, you'll see eventually if we play enough games together.

 

[Andrej]

[v] Dice [/v]

 

[Andrej]

 

Fwiw I think Thane is probably a townie and him being the leader wagon on D1 is pretty lame.

 

Based on...?

 

Like Nyn said, keep reading. Seeing your last post I think you've already passed the part where I explained this to her.

 

If you want to talk more on it when you've caught up I'll be around.

[Nolder]

Case on Kay

 

tl;dr

 

- her vote on me is ubber opportunistic and establishes a scummy pattern

- she latches onto the Sili discussion as a legit scum hunting tactic and trys to keep it in focus

- labeling herself as a "weaker player" comes off as trying to appear un-assuming.

 

 

 

 

 

So the mafia recruits before the rand. Then the stronger the mafia player the more tempting the recruit is, so I think it's good to discern their allignments first. I think most people pick at least reasonably competent mafia players as their partners, so commonly held weaker players should get less attention today (i.e. me and dice) since our rand chance is 1 in 13.

 

I think this approach puts the most pressure on people like nyn, but I think that's for the best. We just need to be cognissant that individuals who are good at being scum are more likely to be scum in this set up. Though this isn't to say we don't take out scummy players if we spot any.

Makes sense to me.

 

 

all of her early D1 content is aimed at encouraging Sili's game starter.  not for being a game starter but as a legit hunting strategy.

 

 

 

Hello

 

Feels good to be back in a Mafia game, I can feel the juices flowing already.

 

I'm with Nyn on this subject. Highly circumstantial and would vary person to person depending on how the randomization went. The part I don't like most specifically is suggesting the focus be on a certain group of players who are considered better than others while the remaining are theoretically given a pass.

I'm not caught up yet since I went to bed early but wanted to comment on this.

 

I personally have no plans to give anyone a pass. Sili's idea made sense to me in the fact that I always pay more attention to stronger players. As I said before they have the best chance at fooling me.

 

Secondly it made sense as it's something I'd do as a weaker player.

 

That said I basically don't trust anyone until I read them as town.

 

 

here she builds on the WIFOM and then theres the fact she calls herself a "weaker player".  i dislike the "weaker player" brush she's tryign to paint herself with.  coems off as her trying to seem unassuming.

 

 

 

 

No use talking about who we think is "strong" or "weak". All it will do is get people defensive for being picked as strong, or defensive for NOT being picked as strong.

 

Reading the first few pages, it is not easy to get initial reads. Based on Sili's opening posts, the responses by people like Nyn, AJ, and Nolder are very easily made by town or scum - therefore, I'm marking that entire discussion as null.

 

Start over.

 

Who has not checked in yet?

Mainly I'm in agreement with Verbs first part here

 

So you don't agree that the posts could have been made by either alignment?

 

 

this is a "damned if you do, damned if you dont" double jeopardy sort of entrapment question.  its also WIFOM

 

she's also trying to keep the distraction discussion Sili started in the forefront.

 

 

Until it was pointed out I didn't notice how he called himself weak, and then he says something about being able to make strong reads on people. That contradicts so I wanted to add a pressure vote. I was wanting to see how he responded. With his recent posts I think he's sounding better. More genuine.

 

[unvote/]

 

this vote reason just doesn't sit right.  she didn't see the contradiction but wanted to apply pressure to him over it ...  and at the same time she basically copies him by calling herself a weaker player ...

 

its hard to explain, but thsi just doesn't sit well with me.

 

*snip*

12. Red: Scum lean. First the QT comment. That has been disproved. If you copy a quote, as he claims to have done, or if you copy from your notes then it shows the formatting. I've seen mislynches as a result. Secondly in your original thoughts you had Tina, Dice and Crusher were your top candidates. Roughly 2 hours later your reads list had Tina as null to town saying she wasn't scummy. You also listed Dice and Crusher as Null for not enough content. Why the change? You then vote Thane, which is fine as he was in your scum pile. Then post #194 you say Dice is firmly in your scum pile. You gave twins it seemed like you believe yet you didn't switch your vote. To me that pinged because half your reasons for voting Thane was for pressure yet Dice seems to be "firmly" in your scum pile. If that's true why not switch your vote to your stronger scum read?

 

[v]Red[/v]

 

and lastly, her vote is opportunistic.  it also establishes a voting pattern "switch to the wagon with the most FoSing at the time"

 

 

I only skimmed your case but I will say she's seemed very conciliatory to me so far this game. Like just going with the flow. I usually read that as scummy fwiw.

[Niniel]

That was posts from Nolder. He is apparently catching up post to post. 

 

Nolder - can you give a list please. 

[Nolder]

on a more serious note: 

 

Red: the fact that there's only 20 posts between a first and second list of suspects, i find that a very short time to change your mind or get better reads on people. It makes me suspicious, very suspicious. I think that one of those was just posted to put something out there.Your recent posts aren't too bad, but i'm going with my gut feeling that you're not trying to escape. 

 

AJ: i don't know why, but yeah, there's something off this game. usually, we get to the point where we're happy town together, but i don't see it happening just yet. I can't remember his posts. And i don't know why. I can not clear him as town. Not yet. Perhaps later. 

 

Leelou: imo, you can't from an opinion or a read on someone just from skimming the thread, which she appearantly did. Makes me wonder if she knows more or not. 

 

Kaylee: recent posts look better.... but i still have the impression she's more following than hunting. Which is an excellent thing, if you don't want to lynch fellow wolves.

Talk about vague...

[Nolder]

 

 

So I'm not allowed to joke with you at all this game? Got it.

Now you're getting defensive.

Because I'm annoyed with you.

 

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

[Kaylee]

[v]Dice[/v]

[Nolder]

[v]Nolder[/v]

 

He's being too wishy washy. I feel like he's not trying at all and he seems lazy and disinterested. Feels like the entire opposite of how he played in the last game.

Because I skipped one night? I'm not disinterested just something else caught my interest last night.

 

Also I am pretty sure I haven't been wishy washy about anything this game.

Show me even one thing I've changed my mind on so far, let alone more than one thing.

 

Talk about pot and kettle, this vote feels very lazy to me.

[Nolder]

This doesnt feel like nolders scum game.

edcnoefjncorjefnvc how do you know my scum game?!

 

We've played like...2 games? 3 games together?

[Nolder]

 

This doesnt feel like nolders scum game.

 

This doesn't feel like Nolder's game, period.

 

That's because it's Cory's game, duhhh.

[Red2111]

Thane - i could switch my vote back to him tbh.  i didn't have good feelings about him to begin with, nothing has changed.

 

basically its summed up in his post count is pillowed with "i'm too busy to play" style posts which make him appear active without actually adding anything, then his "catch up post" is nothing more than a fluffy summary, and when he did post a reads list, the reasons for finding those people scummy had to be milked from him.

 

 

 

 

 

for having almost 2 pages worth of content in this game, only about 2% is actual legit content.  the rest is "i'm here but busy"  its the "appearing to be active while not really being active" approach to game play.  this is something my ISO cant show without quoting every single one of his posts, and i'm not willing to do that.  i highly encourage everyone to go re-examine Thane via an ISO search on his posts.

 

now, onto the ISO

 

 

first of note is that he also jumps into the WIFOM discussion Sili started.  hat by itself isn't worth much (not like with Kaylee, because Thane does a "comment & drop" with it); but then there is his flippant attitude toward D1 that he's constantly taking

 

So, yeah, it's me. I'm here, and i'll add my little thought:

 

I feel that the first wolf picked one person they can easily distance themselves from, and one they hold a bit closer. Now, good players know how to mask that, so let's play and find out who are the wolves and get them *nod*

 

 

 

@mods: really like the opening posts, adds good plavor to the game

 

Well, it's two pages, and one is yours (in postcount)

 

votes aren't that serious, after all, the locations are merely flavor. You seem to be wanting to figure out who the bad guys are, but let's just play and find out, no? It's still early D1, and with the few comments made, it'd be hard to single out a few players.

 

Treat everybody as scum for now.

 

i bring up the weirdest things. You should know that by now

 

It's still somewhat early in the game for me to seriously hunt. Still have quite a few people who need to check in.

 

And, it's what i do. I treat everybody as possible wolf untill they're cleared in some way. Either by their posts or through NA. 

 

 

next is his "playing referee" with Sili during the melt-down.  yeah i get that he later clarified with this ...  but the post and the timing, to me it doens't come off as a townie with good intentions.

 

Sili, it's early game. Please, take a chill pill, have a break, calm down and come back, ok? No need to react like this. Your post has got the game going, which is good. Now, let's go with the flow, and see what heppens, alright?

 

 

 

now there is his "catch up post" which was posted after many many MANY posts of "i'm busy", "will catch up later", ect

 

 

So, here it is. Trying to get things here that stick out to me for each player. I can miss things.. still human.. my apologies. 

 

1. Verbal32: Comes in page 4, sorta nullifies the discussion of the previous 3 pages. Seems he thinks the discussion about the ongoing topic is irrelevant. Is it? Asks who didn't check in yet, but doesn't acknowledge the reply to it, nor mentions it again. post 80 for me feels like a soft defense of dice. Little FoS in post 90 directed at Tina. Convo between him and Crusher about BooBoo.. which is null to me. Ongoing, i find it odd that, even when he said 'start over' in his opening post, he's still going on about the first couple of pages.. Post 155, finally, SPIDEY! And, finally, a FoS at Kaylee after she reacted on Nyn's iso of Sili, followed by a suspicious look at Red.

2. Sili Quirrels:starts the first discussion of the game, and basically takes a lot of heat for it afterwards up to the point where he genuinly gets annoyed and angry. That's my impression. I do agree with his post #24, with which Nyn and Kaylee disagree. Posting on a phone does change your style some. Tends to be shorter post than usual, imo. Mentions he doesn't like my first post, too sure-footed. Red votes me for the opposite reason..... i do want to believe he's town here... but i can't be sure (yet). Seems to want to solve the game. Annoying skittle post...  

4. Hallia: comes in on page 6, asking if we can't agree we're all strong players. Dunno what to make of  that... looking to end conflict/discussion about the ongoing topic? Agrees with Verb next post, then is absent. Votes Nolder, over something i don't think a big deal. If you want people to read you better, post more content. 

5. Nolder: Like Red, votes me. Ok, no problem, i understand. But yeah, not many posts to work with, actually. Comes in and participates in Sili's famous discussion early game. Explains his playstyle in post 146, and in post 147 votes. Little FoS at Tina... but, imo, nothing wrong with being cautious early game. Defends his suspicion of Hallia post 204

6. TinaHel: here goes: this post seems like a lot of words to say: Sili seems town, but i'm not sure. Seems to be focused on SIli early game. Why him? Some more Sili posts, then asks AJ about 'clearing Kaylee', which earns her a FoS by AJ later on. Agrees with Nyn that Nolder is odd. Continues convo with AJ about Kaylee.Ends up voting AJ, adding a reads list. 

7. The Crusher: some joking with verbal, which is null. Other than that, left no particular impression on me. Null at best for the moment.

8. Nynaeve: page one, something stands out... Sili saw it too... opening post said it was D1, and she still assumed it was N0. Seems unlikely mistake for her... less posts than i'd have expected from her by now. Agrees with Verbals take on the early game discussion, which is in line with her thoughts page 1. Questions Leelou about her liking Nolder, which is absolutely legit imo. Nyn easily accepts that Leelou 'will be back later for indepth thoughts' though... , so yeah... seems off. Questions Kaylee for her reads, kaylee replies here (will come back to that). Doesn't follow up on the questioning.. the answer was enough, or the question just for show? Doesn't like Nolder this game, as seen here. Asks Crusher for reads. Don't remember seeing any elaborate reads from her though. 

9. Leelou: Likes Nolders posting here, but, based om what? Admitted she just skimmed through the thread, so it seems very odd that it looks good for her. 

10. Kaylee: Jumps into the discussion with Sili from page one on. Works the same way i do, not trusting anybody untill cleared for her.  So, here, explains why she likes Nyn, verb and AJ. But, if Verb is in townrange for her, and says Nyn could be either alignment, shouldn't she be more wary of Nyn? Continues "Sili's chat" with AJ. Says Tina is town. Later, follows Nyn in her vote on Sili. What i lack from her are elaborate reads, her own casing. Seems more likely to follow than to scumhunt.   

11. Andrej: how'd he get so many posts? seems to be agreeing to a lot of people in general. Asks around, goes into conversations, but i lack the fulltownAJ for the moment. As i said before, most of his posts flew right under my radar. Either i naturally don't suspect him (which would be dangerous) or he deliberately posts so he doesn't stand out much.... 

12. dicetosser1: Still an ongoing struggle with Sili. Feels like town vs town to me for now. Other then the discussion with Sili, not much to go on. based on that, townish pile for now though.

13. Red2111: not a LOT of posts... we'll see where we'll get to. Votes me to get talking. Well, i'm working on it. Doing this entire thing at work, is not easy. In my defense: i could just slack it off and be done with it, but i'm still trying to play the game. Hopefully you'll see that soon. Said here who your top candidates were.20 posts later, none of those are in your pool of suspects... not a lot of posts between  first suspects and second suspects... makes me wary. Misunderstanding between her and Sili over the go-getter.... or overly defensive? Last post looks a bit better, but yeah... not convinced of town, at all.

 

 

and all of it is FLUFF!.   if we were in a TV show the beginning of this post would have started with "Last Time on Escape from the Carnival of Horrors" .....

 

 

last but not least is the most recent

 

- he posts a suspect list, but no reason why people are on the list

- I (and 1 or 2 other people) ask him to expand on why those people are on his list

- he makes multiple posts between 1st being asked to explain his short list to finally explaining why he list the people he did, and he gets a bit cheeky about it.

 

long story short ...  he had to be coaxed into explaining why he found the people he listed scummy, i dont like that

 

 

 

 

based on all of that, my main scum suspects, in no particular order: Red, AJ, Kaylee, Leelou.

 

 

Kay's vote is ringing as opportunistic scum.

 

 

 

Dice is firmly in the scumlean pile for me. That vote and invite came off as a distraction attempt.

Also the Dice/Sili stuff feels forced. I don't like it, it doesn't come off as townie or legit to me.

@ AJ - why do your responses to the bold have a different background? U cut and pasting from a QT?
 

 

Yeah, this pings, too.  Basically, this is a potshot that has no grounding in actual scumhunting.

 

Basically, who the hell even does that?!  AJ is not a noob - he's not going to have anybody writing posts for him.  Actually, I'd say there is nobody in this game that should fall into that category of needing their posts pre-written like that by a  teammate.  Just bringing this up is shady.

 

 

Verb lawkclear as well this game.

 

 

Verb <3 - Verb's posts have been decent. I liked his exchange with Tina, but the Spidey could use some work. Hon, what do you think of Nolder? Also, don't ignore me. 

Sili  - Got people to start talking, but generally null with a sprinkling of both town and scum. I don't like the fact that he tried to say he wouldn't be picked and his reads list isn't very captivating. I find it easier to read Sili when he's starting to get pressure and see how he reacts. To answer your question - I was back at work after being off for a week and had a project dumped in my lap that was due by COB. 

Thane - Thane is Thane. Only really interacting with Sili. Need to see more here, actual commentary on the game. Null, Null, Null 

Hallia - Made a few posts, didn't really say a lot. Has Nyn and AJ as townies. Seems to feel strongly enough that Nol's comment was odd and voted him. The vote has a slight omgus feel to it, slight scum to null. 

Nol - Nothing wrong with his posts before 3:41 pm EST yesterday. I don't really agree with his reads on Hallia (she tends to disappear, no offence) and Crusher. Crusher isn't really adding anything of value to the game besides his lovable self. 

Tina - I don't really like how easily she's clearing Sili, but I do like that she is asking lots of questions and has a thread presence. She seems to be trying to figure out the game, but I will have to watch her posts going forward. For the moment, slight town lean. 

Crushlove - I know Boo Boo isn't here, I miss him dearly, but I'm need more from you. What are your thoughts on some of the players? You know a few of us enough. 

Nyn - Nyn's posts are solid, nothing seems out of place. I'll be looking as the game goes on to see if she is more guarded with her words, but she's in my town pile. Plus, busty. 

Kaylee - Answered Sili right off the bat. Seems to be coming up with town reads, but not really much for scum reads. Meh, I'll see how I feel after she catches up. 

AJ - Seems to be interacting well with who questions him, no squirming. 

dice - Not a lot to go on here, got defensive about saying he gave reads in his first post. His reads were meh, not really much of anything to them. Starting to focus on me, me, me and not picking up anything and running with it. Getting a slight scum feel. 

Red - going after people for the wrong things, really not liking the small things she is pushing over. Looks like she is trying to find anything to fling around and make stick. Null to scum lean. 

 

[v]Red[/v]

 

tl;dr version.  you have no real reads on anyone but Red, who you find scum and will find a way to vote D1.  *nods* 

 

 

 

So, here it is. Trying to get things here that stick out to me for each player. I can miss things.. still human.. my apologies. 

 

1. Verbal32: Comes in page 4, sorta nullifies the discussion of the previous 3 pages. Seems he thinks the discussion about the ongoing topic is irrelevant. Is it? Asks who didn't check in yet, but doesn't acknowledge the reply to it, nor mentions it again. post 80 for me feels like a soft defense of dice. Little FoS in post 90 directed at Tina. Convo between him and Crusher about BooBoo.. which is null to me. Ongoing, i find it odd that, even when he said 'start over' in his opening post, he's still going on about the first couple of pages.. Post 155, finally, SPIDEY! And, finally, a FoS at Kaylee after she reacted on Nyn's iso of Sili, followed by a suspicious look at Red.

2. Sili Quirrels:starts the first discussion of the game, and basically takes a lot of heat for it afterwards up to the point where he genuinly gets annoyed and angry. That's my impression. I do agree with his post #24, with which Nyn and Kaylee disagree. Posting on a phone does change your style some. Tends to be shorter post than usual, imo. Mentions he doesn't like my first post, too sure-footed. Red votes me for the opposite reason..... i do want to believe he's town here... but i can't be sure (yet). Seems to want to solve the game. Annoying skittle post...  

4. Hallia: comes in on page 6, asking if we can't agree we're all strong players. Dunno what to make of  that... looking to end conflict/discussion about the ongoing topic? Agrees with Verb next post, then is absent. Votes Nolder, over something i don't think a big deal. If you want people to read you better, post more content. 

5. Nolder: Like Red, votes me. Ok, no problem, i understand. But yeah, not many posts to work with, actually. Comes in and participates in Sili's famous discussion early game. Explains his playstyle in post 146, and in post 147 votes. Little FoS at Tina... but, imo, nothing wrong with being cautious early game. Defends his suspicion of Hallia post 204

6. TinaHel: here goes: this post seems like a lot of words to say: Sili seems town, but i'm not sure. Seems to be focused on SIli early game. Why him? Some more Sili posts, then asks AJ about 'clearing Kaylee', which earns her a FoS by AJ later on. Agrees with Nyn that Nolder is odd. Continues convo with AJ about Kaylee.Ends up voting AJ, adding a reads list. 

7. The Crusher: some joking with verbal, which is null. Other than that, left no particular impression on me. Null at best for the moment.

8. Nynaeve: page one, something stands out... Sili saw it too... opening post said it was D1, and she still assumed it was N0. Seems unlikely mistake for her... less posts than i'd have expected from her by now. Agrees with Verbals take on the early game discussion, which is in line with her thoughts page 1. Questions Leelou about her liking Nolder, which is absolutely legit imo. Nyn easily accepts that Leelou 'will be back later for indepth thoughts' though... , so yeah... seems off. Questions Kaylee for her reads, kaylee replies here (will come back to that). Doesn't follow up on the questioning.. the answer was enough, or the question just for show? Doesn't like Nolder this game, as seen here. Asks Crusher for reads. Don't remember seeing any elaborate reads from her though. 

9. Leelou: Likes Nolders posting here, but, based om what? Admitted she just skimmed through the thread, so it seems very odd that it looks good for her. 

10. Kaylee: Jumps into the discussion with Sili from page one on. Works the same way i do, not trusting anybody untill cleared for her.  So, here, explains why she likes Nyn, verb and AJ. But, if Verb is in townrange for her, and says Nyn could be either alignment, shouldn't she be more wary of Nyn? Continues "Sili's chat" with AJ. Says Tina is town. Later, follows Nyn in her vote on Sili. What i lack from her are elaborate reads, her own casing. Seems more likely to follow than to scumhunt.   

11. Andrej: how'd he get so many posts? seems to be agreeing to a lot of people in general. Asks around, goes into conversations, but i lack the fulltownAJ for the moment. As i said before, most of his posts flew right under my radar. Either i naturally don't suspect him (which would be dangerous) or he deliberately posts so he doesn't stand out much.... 

12. dicetosser1: Still an ongoing struggle with Sili. Feels like town vs town to me for now. Other then the discussion with Sili, not much to go on. based on that, townish pile for now though.

13. Red2111: not a LOT of posts... we'll see where we'll get to. Votes me to get talking. Well, i'm working on it. Doing this entire thing at work, is not easy. In my defense: i could just slack it off and be done with it, but i'm still trying to play the game. Hopefully you'll see that soon. Said here who your top candidates were.20 posts later, none of those are in your pool of suspects... not a lot of posts between  first suspects and second suspects... makes me wary. Misunderstanding between her and Sili over the go-getter.... or overly defensive? Last post looks a bit better, but yeah... not convinced of town, at all.

 

 

less commentary on the game and more actual thoughts please.

 

 

based on all of that, my main scum suspects, in no particular order: Red, AJ, Kaylee, Leelou.

 

why?  i get your "baseball style catch up" running commentary of what everyone's done in the thread up above.   but in short concise sentences, why specifically those people?

 

 

 

 

You were ignoring me by not mentioning me anywhere. 

 

I'm not scum, nor am I FoSing you. 

 

What do you think of Nolder? You didn't answer the question. 

 

You had not yet participated in the game.  Same reason I didn't mention Hallia or Crusher.

 

I didn't say you were FoS'ing me - I said you're planting a seed for a future case.  You've done it before - and I have as well to you when I've been scum and you town.  Just sayin'.

 

Re: Nolder - I'm currently leaning town on him.  As scum I don't believe he would have mentioned the "lulz vote" - too risky to get attention.  That's a small detail, true, but he currently isn't on my list to keep an eye on.

 

 

Okay. What about his reads on Hallia and Crusher? 

 

Also, more Spidey please? 

 

 

giant FoS to Leelou.  moving you to scumlean with Dice on this.

 

i dislike you trying to get Verb into spidey mode.  feels like your trying to get town verb to stop scum hunting.

 

i love spidey pics, and this thread does need more spidey, but we can have those at night imo.

 

 

Fwiw I think Thane is probably a townie and him being the leader wagon on D1 is pretty lame.

 

i'm still unsure about him.  he still doesnt have any real content other than a post that is akin to the "last time on Shameless, this is what you missed:" catch up.

 

 

 

 

 

Dice is firmly in the scumlean pile for me. That vote and invite came off as a distraction attempt.

Also the Dice/Sili stuff feels forced. I don't like it, it doesn't come off as townie or legit to me.

@ AJ - why do your responses to the bold have a different background? U cut and pasting from a QT?

 

Yeah, this pings, too.  Basically, this is a potshot that has no grounding in actual scumhunting.

 

Basically, who the hell even does that?!  AJ is not a noob - he's not going to have anybody writing posts for him.  Actually, I'd say there is nobody in this game that should fall into that category of needing their posts pre-written like that by a  teammate.  Just bringing this up is shady.

 

I agree that it's extremely unreliable at best, but sadly it's not the first time I've seen DMers use this kind of excuse to FOS people. And no - there's no way I'm getting coached from a QT or would even have to craft posts in a QT before bringing them over... but this angle seemed so 'Red' to me, if that makes sense, which is why I didn't really jump all over it and instead laughed it off.

 

 

 

AJ is now nearing lawkclear territory

 

underlined - which is why i didn't respond to you laughing it off.  i liked the response from you i got over that little bait and wanted to see how others would react to it.  Verb's reaction to it is enough for me to be satisfied, i like it when i can get a solid feel for him on D1 cause he's always tricky for me to read.

 

not sure what to make from majority of the thread ignoring it though, would have preferred more people commenting *sigh*   Key's latching onto it looks opportunistic as hell though

 

 

 

 

 

Also you didn't answer my question. What changed in that time to move Tina from suspicious to nothing scummy?

 

i had her as scummy cause clearing Sili in the way that she did raised the hair on my neck.  it still does, enough for me not to move her above Null.

Thane's placating tone to Sili in his mini meltdown raised my hair as well, hence the start of my pressure on him.

 

unlike Thane though, Tina's had posts that came off as legit scum hunting, so she's back to Null until i get more info from her

 

if i may comment on the bolded: i absolutely hate meltdowns, cursing, fighting or calling names in games. It makes the entire game unpleasant to read for me. That's why i tell people to leave the game, take a breather, and come back. It's a game, after all, which should be fun to play. 

 

 

fair enough (but to be blunt, this is mafia, not exactly a kid friendly game for people without thick skins; ATE, MeltDowns, Emo-Rage and Fighting go hand in hand.  you just have to be able to separate game play from the person *shrugs*). 

 

still waiting on you to explain why you have the people you do in your pool of suspects though

 

 

 

@Red: I'll try to hand my thoughts:

 

 

 

on a more serious note: 

 

Red: the fact that there's only 20 posts between a first and second list of suspects, i find that a very short time to change your mind or get better reads on people. It makes me suspicious, very suspicious. I think that one of those was just posted to put something out there.Your recent posts aren't too bad, but i'm going with my gut feeling that you're not trying to escape. 

 

AJ: i don't know why, but yeah, there's something off this game. usually, we get to the point where we're happy town together, but i don't see it happening just yet. I can't remember his posts. And i don't know why. I can not clear him as town. Not yet. Perhaps later. 

 

Leelou: imo, you can't from an opinion or a read on someone just from skimming the thread, which she appearantly did. Makes me wonder if she knows more or not. 

 

Kaylee: recent posts look better.... but i still have the impression she's more following than hunting. Which is an excellent thing, if you don't want to lynch fellow wolves.

 

 

 

 

[Nynaeve]

wishy washy

1. Thin and watery, as tea or soup; insipid. 

2. Lacking in strength of character or purpose; ineffective; weak in willpower. 

[Nolder]

 

[v]Nolder[/v]

 

He's being too wishy washy. I feel like he's not trying at all and he seems lazy and disinterested. Feels like the entire opposite of how he played in the last game.

 

I liked Crusher's read list. His explanation rings true. I also think Red touched some good points in her Kaylee ISO. Kaylee has been way too agreeable and following others. I haven't really seen her producing much of an original thought. Could vote there too.

True I've been agreeable. Others have made good points and I've agreed and said as much. I've done my best at ordinal thought in my reads list. Also sometimes early game when I'm not real sure I'll follow my strongest town leans. May not be the best route but it's how I work sometimes.

 

This rings sincere actually. I used to do that when I wasn't as confident of a player. Just pick the person who seems to be talking the most sense and hope for the best.

[Andrej]

Insipid

 

...lol

[Nolder]

 

Nol moved down because he was posting what i saw as good content and then did an MIA when crap got thick.  add into that, what others in my lawkclear list are saying, it makes me question my initial read of him.

 

wat

 

When I went "MIA" only Sili and...I don't remember but only one other person was around. And then THEY left. I kept refreshing the thread from time to time and no one else was posting. I said I'd be around till ~3AM I just didn't want to go back and read Nyn's wall of text case on Sili at the time so I put it off until today. 

[Nynaeve]

Insipid

 

...lol

 

[Nolder]

He was a lot more selfconscious last time. His posts were shorter and he had an awkward opening. He didnt seem capable of strong read progression.

You're talking about my last game on POG? What makes you think that's typical of my scum game?

[Nolder]

i'm not buying it.  i like where my vote is, not only for the opportunistic vote on me but for the other reasons i stated in my previous case on Kay.

 

i could go for Leelou as well *nods*  and woudl like more pressure on Dice and Thane to sort them out.

 

 

Hallia being quiet bugs me, and Nol going MIA isn't sitting well.    feeling better about Crushluv currently, i'm still Waffely on Tina though.

OMFG Red I wasn't MIA wtf 

[Red2111]

 

 

Nol moved down because he was posting what i saw as good content and then did an MIA when crap got thick.  add into that, what others in my lawkclear list are saying, it makes me question my initial read of him.

 

wat

 

When I went "MIA" only Sili and...I don't remember but only one other person was around. And then THEY left. I kept refreshing the thread from time to time and no one else was posting. I said I'd be around till ~3AM I just didn't want to go back and read Nyn's wall of text case on Sili at the time so I put it off until today. 

 

 

by MIA, i mean that when the convo heated up yesterday into this morning, you stopped posting.   so i seemed like you were stepping back to get away from it all.

 

 

you're recent posts have me feeling better about you again, just an FYI

[Cory Caboose]

Just got home from work, doing a vote count now

[Nynaeve]

Town lean: Verbal, AJ, Red

Null to town: Crusher, Sili, Halli

Null-ish: Tina, dice, Leelou, Thane (conflicted)

Null to scum: Nolder, Kaylee,  

 

 

Subject to change though.... gotta read all of Nolder's recent posts properly. And finish some ISOing.

[Andrej]

Gonna have to leave in about half an hour for work and unless I can sneak out a few minutes early I'll probably miss the EOD.

 

I like my vote on Dice currently and think it's a positive direction to move in even if his content is low.

 

Nolder and Dice wagons would be tied at this point with 3 a piece. I'm curious to see where the other players are gonna land.

[Nynaeve]

 

i'm not buying it.  i like where my vote is, not only for the opportunistic vote on me but for the other reasons i stated in my previous case on Kay.

 

i could go for Leelou as well *nods*  and woudl like more pressure on Dice and Thane to sort them out.

 

 

Hallia being quiet bugs me, and Nol going MIA isn't sitting well.    feeling better about Crushluv currently, i'm still Waffely on Tina though.

OMFG Red I wasn't MIA wtf 

 

 

*laughs*

[Tommyrod]

D1.9 Vote Count

Dice (3): AJ (#346), Tina (#374), Kaylee (#383)
Nolder (2): Crusher (#288), Nyn (#311)
Red (1): Thane (#259)
Thane (1): Nolder (#147)
Nolder (1): Hallia (#195)
Kaylee (1): Red (#272)

Unvote (2): Dice (#180), Leelou (#333)

Not Voting (2): Sili Quirrels, Verbal32

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.