[Advanced] The Scouring of the Shire - Game Over

[Pralaya]

And, yeah, finally, I am a vanilla. So, no big claim to offer.

 

Thank you and good night.

[Yates]

And, yeah, finally, I am a vanilla. So, no big claim to offer.

 

Thank you and good night.

Yeah. I'm much happier with my vote on Arsis than Pral. I could be convinced to vote Krak. Pral also raises a good point about Alanna. One of the reasons I love playing with Alanna is because she's got good instincts and thinks things through without jumping to conclusions. I'll need to reread her to see if Pral is being fair in his interpretation.

 

So yeah. Arsis or Krak for me.

[Red2111]

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[V]Krak[/v]

 

 

Prals post gives off town vibes. Moving on to pressure krak more about his interactions with Sili and his votes.

 

 

Both arsis and pral giving town vibes with their responses to pressure, if we have to choose between the two tomorrow, I'll switch back to pral cause he gives more info

[The Crusher]

And, yeah, finally, I am a vanilla. So, no big claim to offer.

 

Thank you and good night.

 

 

Gotta go back and look.  not now.  Headed to happy hour.  Sleep well snakey snakey.  

[The Crusher]

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[V]Krak[/v]

 

 

Prals post gives off town vibes. Moving on to pressure krak more about his interactions with Sili and his votes.

 

 

Both arsis and pral giving town vibes with their responses to pressure, if we have to choose between the two tomorrow, I'll switch back to pral cause he gives more info

 

 

I think at one point I suspected Krak. Had a reason too I think.  Happy hour.  See you soon.

[Yates]

I'll need to reread her to see if Pral is being fair in his interpretation.

He's not. Alanna seems fine. She didn't jump to conclusions so much as announce two leading suspects and make the obvious observation that Pral looked bad as a result of the Sili flip.

[Zashara]

Yeah, I could vote for Krak since I've got a scum lean on him. Not much else to say since work has been busy today. 

[Niniel]

Still not feeling well but I promise to be active tomorrow. Again, sorry.

[WWWwombat]

 

fair enough

 

you never answered my question though.  why did you ignore Pral yet vote me over the same thing D1 regarding yate's claim

 

It wasn't a huge scumtell or anything, and I figured I was more likely to get useful reactions out of you than Pral.

[WWWwombat]

I don't get either of Pral's scum reads btw.  Still want to lynch him.

[Yates]

I don't get either of Pral's scum reads btw.

Krak is a good bet. I think his Alanna read is out of skew, though.

 

What has you thinking Krak is Town, here?

[WWWwombat]

 

I don't get either of Pral's scum reads btw.

Krak is a good bet. I think his Alanna read is out of skew, though.

 

What has you thinking Krak is Town, here?

 

 

Basically, I don't see what Krak has done that's so scummy and a couple of thing he's done have rung true to me.  I don't see what Pral is saying wrt his interactions with Sili.  They look like standard RVS to me.  If anything, I'd say Sili's end of that makes it look more likely that Krak is town.  Pral is basically latching onto a point Sili made (that Krak's vote was weird) and rephrasing it in a way that it can be re-purposed despite the fact that Sili was lynched for making that point and flipped scum.  I like how Krak handled you early D1, because it was similar to my line of thought.  I don't like how he is continuing to soft push you and that's tempering my read to a town lean atm.  The main thing isn't that I think Krak looks super town, but that he looks slightly town to me and that I don't think we should take our marching orders from dead scum, especially when Pral hasn't done a single thing to make me think he is town.

[Nolder]

Votecount

Pral - Krak, Arsis, Wombat (3)

Arsis - Zashara, Yates (2)

Krak - Red (1)

 

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Saturday 12PM PST

 

 

[Niniel]

I´m back. I will start my re-read in one or two hours. I´m happy that we only have 19 pages. 

[Krakalakachkn]

Was away on vacation last 2 days (Indian holiday here)

 

So, the case against me is that I was deflecting the focus away from Sili? Really? On page 5, with him having just one vote? It was an early meta read on him and nothing else.

Was I wrong? Yes, I was ... I don't expect to be perfect either in early gameplay

 

 

My main scum read would still be krak.

 

His D1 interaction with Sili appeared to me as distancing

 

I'll take that as a yes.

 

 

[v]Prof. Quirrels[/v]

no easy scum leans yet. kind of concerned krak voted me to bury his vote but i'll need more content

That post by Sili does not look like him attempting to make a case on krak nor a serious attempt. It is just there, which is why i feel it is a distancing move.

 

Plus, what I mentioned about Krak's posts looking forced in my D1 vote on him.

 

Also, Nyn and me having a discussion on D1 and then Nyn getting killed looks more like a move to put the focus on me. Krak started it during N1 and don't like it so far.

 

The other person I am having a scumread is Alanna. She is more of a type to think before making conclusions and seems like she is very quick to label me a scum due to a single page 5 post. And, that is really suspicious.

 

 

 

So what you're saying is that we shouldn't focus on you for your interactions with Sili, which make you look like you're deflecting attention away from Sili at a time when he was getting heat, but I'm suspect because it looked like Sili and I were distancing?  I think the line between those two scumtells is thinner than a hair and I don't like how you're trying to split hairs.

 

Then my posts look forced.  Well, there's not much I can say about that.  Pull them up if you want and we can try to have a conversation about them.

 

Ain't no way I killed Nyn to shift focus to you.  No way.  

[Niniel]

Crusher: feels like he is trying to solve the game and his vote on Sili gives him bonus points

 

Wombat: also voted Sili in the end when he could have just not voted like others did. 

 

Red: I don´t like her play but I think she is town. She started the Sili wagon. She did jump off but she was the one bringing focus on him. 

 

Yates: When I re-read the thread I didn´t get the townie feeling that I had on him yesterday. Again, his claim doesn´t mean anything to me, but the fact was that he focused his posting about his claim. Didn´t get the feeling of scum hunting. And he never voted Sili although he was about to get lynched. I´m not sure where he lives so it might have been dl when he slept. I don´t remember if he was here at dl. Sili didn´t vote Yates either. Although he didn´t vote at all. So I don´t think Yates being the counter wagon clears him. Yates: why didn´t you vote yesterday?

 

Alanna: Haven´t posted much. Question: Have you played with Sili before?

 

Zashara: Sorry to hear about the depression. I know all about how that is. Hope you will feel better. Over all I have a town feeling of Zashara.

 

Pral: I don´t get a scum feeling from his posts. Sure, he defended Sili, but as he said, it was early in the game. 

 

Krak: I don´t really understand Krak. Krak, why did you vote Yates on D1? And why bring up a third party? 

 

Arsis: His comment on not believing Sili´s claim and still not voting him was weird. And today he seems to just focus on whoever might get more votes than him. (= Pral)

 

 

[v] Arsis [/v]

[Arsis]

No it wasn't. There were two claims that I didn't believe. The first was made randomly under no pressure the other was made at l2. The first made no sense to me. If you're a town pr why make yourself a target like that for no reason? The vt covering for a pr thing is silly and gives scum too much room to hide. I've also seen Yates do silly stuff early as scum. I didn't believe Sili but him lying not to get lynched is null for him imo. It was worth waiting an extra day to see what happened imo.

[Alanna]

I think I'd rather see a lynch today on Pral over Arsis; Arsis sounds more townie to me. I'm not seeing anything scummy about Krak right now.

 

[v]Pral.[/v]

 

Sorry I've been scarce, I'm in my cousins wedding today and the past couple of days have been more hectic than I expected. Should be around more after today.

 

Tina, I have played in two games with Sili. We were scummates together in my last game with him.

[Alanna]

I have a little time here waiting to get my makeup done, so to elaborate a little on a Krak - his Day 1 stuff, including asking about game setup and his vote on Yates in response to his gambit, just felt like Krak trying to help stir the pot a little and get some more gameplay going for Day 1. Doing those things as scum seems a little too clumsy for him.

[Nolder]

Votecount

Pral - Krak, Arsis, Wombat, Alanna (4)

Arsis - Zashara, Yates, Tina (3)

Krak - Red (1)

 

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Saturday 12PM PST

 

 

 

[Yates]

Yates: why didn´t you vote yesterday?

I had a breast feeding class at 6:00 pm EST:

I'm not going to be on at deadline [i guess I'm going to learn how to breastfeed??]. I don't have a strong enough scum suspect to vote at this point in a game that hasn't had a ton of engagement. Some of that is me not "beating the grass," I guess, but I could use some help.

 

 

I left work at 5:00 pm EST to get dinner and snacks for my wife before class so I read nothing after post 132.

 

Post 132 also contains a partial crumb which responds to Arsis's post 367. The other half of that crumb is provided via link in post 215. That crumb was specifically designed for you, Pral, Sili, and Nyn [who was reading along in the Dead QT that game] as I believe that's the last Tress game and we all participated in it together.

[Yates]

Oh. Sorry. The crumb was that I didn't lie about being the Shirriff. That is true. I'm just not the cop you expected me to be.

[Red2111]

[v]Pral[/v]

 

No sense keeping my vote on krak now sense theres not enough time to get proper pressure up on him.

 

Still getting town vibes now from both these wagons but Oral gives more info

[Red2111]

Oh. Sorry. The crumb was that I didn't lie about being the Shirriff. That is true. I'm just not the cop you expected me to be.

Then explain this post

 

 

Yates has moved from my lockclear to town lean.  Nyn flipping finder makes me question the claim and his motives...

Really?? I think that was some pretty obvious seer cover. Not to mention the fact I was the counter wagon [gone RANDOM] on a scum lynch. I'm pretty much an innocent child at this point.

  

[Nolder]

Votecount

Pral - Krak, Arsis, Wombat, Alanna, Red (5)

Arsis - Zashara, Yates, Tina (3)

 

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Saturday 12PM PST