Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

Tsukibana · June 24, 2014

Reichenbach Fall!!!

BFG · June 24, 2014

So hopefully I'll have more time to play from now :smile:

Apologies to all for being so absent :sad:

BFG · June 24, 2014

I really need to reread Day 1, but won't have time today. I read Day 1 assuming Thane was mafia, symp is different as it's possible/likely that mafia didn't know at start of thread who mafia was.

BFG · June 24, 2014

who symp was

BFG · June 24, 2014

[v]Mynd

Just in case.

No governor pls.

Vote count:

Mynd (7): Ithi, Turin, Tsuki, Chae, Pral, dice, Len

Ithi (3): Mynd, Hallia, 鲍勃不是我的名字

Not Voting (6): everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch. A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140617T21&p0=422

Csarmi why the early hammer? Why compliment Tina on her supposed early hammer, when I remember you as not liking early hammers?

BFG · June 24, 2014

Vote count:

Thane (2): Ithi, Des

Not Voting (14): everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch. No DL yet.

Vote count:

Thane (2): Ithi, Des

X (1) : Turin

Not Voting (13): everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch. No DL yet.

Vote count:

Thane (3): Ithi, Des, Mynd

X (1) : Turin

Not Voting (12) : everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch. No DL yet.

Vote count:

Thane (4): Ithi, Des, Mynd, Tiba

X (1) : Turin

Not Voting (11) : everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch. No DL yet.

Vote count:

Thane (4): Ithi, Des, Mynd, Tiba

X (1) : Turin

Len (1) : Che

Not Voting (10) : everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch. No DL yet.

Vote count:

Thane (4): Des, Mynd, Tina, dice

X (3) : Turin, Tsuki, ithi

Len (1) : Che

Mynd (1) thane

Not Voting (7) : everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST. (3 days, plus another 24 hours since the majority of the phase would otherwise be over the weekend.)

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140617T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Thane (4): Des, Mynd, Tina, dice

X (3) : Turin, Tsuki, ithi

Len (2) : Chae, Csarmi

Mynd (1) Thane

Chae (1): Len

Not Voting (5) : everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST. (3 days, plus another 24 hours since the majority of the phase would otherwise be over the weekend.)

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140617T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Thane (4): Des, Mynd, Tina, BFG

X (3) : Turin, Tsuki, Ithi

Len (2) : Chae, Csarmi

Mynd (1) Thane

Chae (1): Len

Not Voting (5) : everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST. (3 days, plus another 24 hours since the majority of the phase would otherwise be over the weekend.)http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140617T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Thane (6): Des, Mynd, Tina, BFG, Dice, Thane

X (3) : Turin, Tsuki, Ithi

Len (2) : Chae, Csarmi

Mynd (1) Thane

Chae (1): Len

Not Voting (3) : everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST. (3 days, plus another 24 hours since the majority of the phase would otherwise be over the weekend.)http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140617T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Mynd (3): Ithi, Turin, Csarmi

Ithi (1): Mynd

Not Voting (11): everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST.

Vote count:

Mynd (5): Ithi, Turin, Csarmi, Tsuki, Chae

Ithi (1): Mynd

Not Voting (10): everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST.

Vote count:

Mynd (4): Ithi, Turin, Tsuki, Chae

Ithi (1): Mynd

Not Voting (11): everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST.

Vote count:

Mynd (5): Ithi, Turin, Tsuki, Chae, Pral

Ithi (1): Mynd

Not Voting (10): everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST.

I guess there is at least some non-canon there based on the Thane situation. Despo gets +5 internets

This theme will focus on the literary Holmes canon as written by Arthur Conan Doyle. Holmes stories in other media, and/or written works by other authors, may come into the game but don't count on it.

Players:

1. ~~Thrax~~ Dice 2.0

2. Len

3. Mynd Wiggins, Town 1-shot Gladiator, lynched D1

4. ~~Dawn~~ NotBob

5. Tina

6. Turin

7. Despo

8. Hally: Governor, KIng of Bohemia

9. ~~Chae~~Krak: JOAT, no name

10. ~~Ithi~~Rags:

11. Thane: Irene Adler, mafia symp

12. Tsuki

13. Dice Toby the Dog, Town 2-shot Oracle, killed N1

14. ~~Charis~~/BFG: VT, Henry Baskerville

15. Pral

16. Salami: MILLER, Thadeus Stolto

Yes, I was wrong about Adler and therefore about Thane. I would say this makes BFG look better but I would still be willing to lynch any of the other 3 claimed people (Csarmi, Hallia, Chrak)

Csarmi did soft defend Thane before voting him in a prime bus position. His "confirmed because I say so" line is pure bluster. As is the "if you push me without a vote it's a scumclaim" .My vote will go here in the morning. So I guess that makes me town. I haven't bought the Miller claim from the start so w/e. Maybe now there is enough support to put your non-helpful self down.

Hallia: still don't like any of her plays this game. From the misrep in the way she claimed to her trying to act confirmed to the latest bits in the last few pages. If i had a vig shot it would be on her.

[b[Chrak: Can't believe the logic of bypassing your ONE MAFIA READ of D1 to take a shot at me. At least you didn't kill anyone that could help town. Small victory for me I think. I would still like to get your character name. It now makes little difference as the last flip shows so why not?[/b]

Do you believe Chae shot at you N1?

BFG · June 24, 2014

Argh, 2 posts got mixed up there. First part was me gathering VCs to compare Day 1/2 trains, saw Turin's and wanted to ask while I remembered.

BFG · June 25, 2014

Vote count:

Mynd (7): Ithi, Turin, Tsuki, Chae, Pral, dice, Len

Ithi (3): Mynd, Hallia, 鲍勃不是我的名字

Not Voting (6): everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch. A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST.

Vote count:

Mynd (7): Ithi, Turin, Tsuki, Chae, Pral, dice, Len

Ithi (4): Mynd, Hallia, 鲍勃不是我的名字, Csarmi

Not Voting (5): everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch. A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST.

Vote count:

Mynd (7): Ithi, Turin, Tsuki, Chae, Pral, dice, Len

Ithi (3): Mynd, Hallia, 鲍勃不是我的名字

Not Voting (6): everyone else

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch. A deadline is now in effect.

DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST.

Vote count:

Mynd (9): Ithi, Turin, Chae, Pral, dice, Len, 鲍勃不是我的名字, Tina, csarmi

Ithi (2): Mynd, Hallia

Not Voting (5): Thrax, Tsuki, Despo, Thane, BFG

that was the hammer.

it is now twilight.

Vote count:

Chae (1): Tsuki

Hally (1): Turin

Not voting (12): Ithi, Dice, Tina, Des, Len, BFG, Pral, Csarmi, NotBob, Hally, Chae, Thane

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Chae (2): Tsuki, Len

Hally (1): Turin

Not voting (11): Ithi, Dice, Tina, Des, BFG, Pral, Csarmi, NotBob, Hally, Chae, Thane

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Chae (2): Tsuki, Len

Hally (1): Turin

Thane (2): Des, Dice

Not voting (9): Ithi, Tina, BFG, Pral, Csarmi, NotBob, Hally, Chae, Thane

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Chae (2): Tsuki, Len

Hally (1): Turin

Thane (2): Des, Dice

Tina (2): pral, hally

Not voting (7): Ithi, Tina, BFG, Csarmi, NotBob, Chae, Thane

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Chae (2): Tsuki, Len

Hally (1): Turin

Thane (2): Des, Dice

Tina (2): pral, hallY

Len (1): Che

Not voting (6): Ithi, Tina, BFG, Csarmi, NotBob, Thane

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Chae (2): Tsuki, Len

Hally (1): Turin

Thane (2): Des, Dice

Tina (2): pral, hally

Len (1): Che

Thrice (1): 鲍勃不是我的

Not voting (5): Ithi, Tina, BFG, Csarmi, Thane

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Chae (2): Tsuki, Len

Hally (1): Turin

Thane (2): Des, Dice

Tina (1): pral

Len (1): Che

Thrice (1): 鲍勃不是我的

Tsuki (1): Hally

Not voting (5): Ithi, Tina, BFG, Csarmi, Thane

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Chae (2): Tsuki, Len

Hally (1): Turin

Thane (2): Des, Dice

Tina (1): pral

Len (1): Che

Thrice (1): 鲍勃不是我的

Not voting (6): Ithi, Tina, BFG, Csarmi, Thane, Hally

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Chae (1): Len

Hally (3): Turin, Tsuki, des

Thane (1):Dice

Tina (1): pral

Len (1): Che

Thrice (1): 鲍勃不是我的

Not voting (6): Ithi, Tina, BFG, Csarmi, Thane, Hally

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

vote count:

Chae (2): Len, Che

Hally (3): Turin, Tsuki, des

Thane (1):Dice

Tina (1): pral

Len (1): Che

Thrice (1): 鲍勃不是我的

Tsuki (1): csarmi

Not voting (5): Ithi, Tina, BFG, Thane, Hally

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Hally (3): Turin, Tsuki, des

Tina (1): pral

Thrice (1): 鲍勃不是我的

Tsuki (4): csarmi, Hally, thane, Thrice

Chrak (1): Tina

Not voting (4): Ithi, BFG, Chrak, Len

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Mon. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

Vote count:

Hally (2): Turin, Tsuki

Tina (1): pral

Thane (3): NotBob, Des, Len

Tsuki (4): csarmi, Hally, thane, Thrice

Chrak (1): Tina

Not voting (3): Ithi, BFG, Chrak

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

DL is Mon. June 23rd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140623T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Hally (1): Turin

Tina (1): pral

Thane (4): NotBob, Des, Len, Tina

Tsuki (4): csarmi, Hally, thane, Thrice

Not voting (4): Ithi, BFG, Chrak, Tsuki

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

DL is Mon. June 23rd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140623T21&p0=422

Vote count:

Hally (1): Turin

Tina (1): pral

Thane (8): NotBob, Des, Len, Tina, thrice, Csarmi, tsuki, thane

Tsuki (1): Hally

Not voting (3): Ithrahnarok, BFG, Chrak

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch

That was the hammer

It is now TWILIGHT

My search brought the VCs up out of order and I didn't quote every one, just wanted an idea of how trains developed over the days.

So Day 1, X was the closest to a counter train to Thane, before the Gladiator Match.

Day 2 seems more interesting. Dice was early on Thane, but voted Tsuki which evened the trains up with Hallia despite voting Hallia earlier.

Too late now but I'll dig into this properly tomorrow.

BFG · June 25, 2014

i dont believe you either Hally. Governor has a scum version.

vote hally

thats not conf bias des thats a good read.

its also a good point about hally.

unvote

vote thane

I'm assuming the good point was Des's point saying about a wasted lynch?

Why would anyone care if your action failed? You were Roleblocked. It happens. By stating you are JOAT, you just ensured yoe ARE RBed for the rest of the game, assuming you survive the day... Put your money where your mouth is - what action did you try?? Nice way to make it seem I am casing YOU, instead of your whole team. In fact, during the case, I never mentioned your English mistake even once. I DARE YOU TO FIND IT.

Nice that my main 3 scum show up. Where's the HubbyScum?

Poor Hallia. GF to this group... at least CS has avoided blatant misrepping to OMGUS me. Again, Chae, go find anywhere in my WoT where I mentioned your grammar issue. I will wait.

This pinged to me hardcore. Town should care. She may actually be that role. but then he goes Action fishing..

Tsuki seems to be getting more and more aggresive and the tone of these posts is one i dont like. When asked a question he has a glib line rather then an answer.

unvote vote Tsuki

Why Tsuki over Hallia?

Krakalakachkn · June 25, 2014

Has anyone bothered to go back and look at Thane's posts early in the game?

I can only assume that Symps have knowledge of who scum is (in this game) and if his early play is any indication, there's a good chance he might have tried to slip a message in there.

Krakalakachkn · June 25, 2014

So, i'm here and will comment a bit:

Yes Ithi, i was at work, i have notifications but no DM access.

someone missed me joking, so here it is: Dammit Csarmi, you ruined my groove and now i can't claim Miller anymore! *shakefist*

And, i am not scum, i haven't even been provided with a PR... i'm a plain townie. So much for Role madness.... or they got afraid i might vig townies again like in my last game (whoa, another joke!) I do believe Role madness here would indicate at least one JOAT on each side, mafia definately with a GF, and one (perhaps 2) third party/parties.

I love the attention, but for scum we need to look elsewhere.... i have a crazy theory, but i'll need to investigate that before i put it out. I do think however that one of the lurkers (at least one) is scum hiding for the moment. eeny meeny miny mo... random guess Tina, but i could be wrong... it's still D1 and we need some of the lurkers to post here to get some reads.

My view on the X-files: i think X would be more worried if his train got bigger. What i see here is townies going after eachother, no real mafia in there...

Ithi is town, from what i can tell. So are the people 'defending' me, from my pov.

and now, seeing i hurt my back last weekend, i will go to bed soon

A post like this, maybe?

BFG · June 25, 2014

Meant to say, it's interesting that X's train didn't really take off while Tsuki's did, against that I had a decent town read on X from his early play. Particularly his questioning Tsuki about the point he was trying to make about Chae, and the follow up to the 'confirmed miller' argument (can't remember exact words that X used, but in the post that started the argument he said something like 'all but confirmed' then went on to explain why he thought that when questioned. Stood out when Tsuki followed this up despite being so 'keen' on the precise words that Chae used earlier. At the moment I'm still leaning town on X/Dice 2 but that's more due to my early read on X then Dice atm.

Krakalakachkn · June 25, 2014

Hey Des, will you tell me what your case against Chae is? I'm still catching up, but if it's because she defended Thane on D1, then we have issues.

Krakalakachkn · June 25, 2014

Actually, also saw these:

guys, is it possible for thane to have a role that would allow him to have info about the game settings ?

because he doesn't answer to your question about what was in his PM

and because of the info he looked to have here v

So, i'm here and will comment a bit:

Yes Ithi, i was at work, i have notifications but no DM access.

someone missed me joking, so here it is: Dammit Csarmi, you ruined my groove and now i can't claim Miller anymore! *shakefist*

And, i am not scum, i haven't even been provided with a PR... i'm a plain townie. So much for Role madness.... or they got afraid i might vig townies again like in my last game (whoa, another joke!) I do believe Role madness here would indicate at least one JOAT on each side, mafia definately with a GF, and one (perhaps 2) third party/parties.

I love the attention, but for scum we need to look elsewhere.... i have a crazy theory, but i'll need to investigate that before i put it out. I do think however that one of the lurkers (at least one) is scum hiding for the moment. eeny meeny miny mo... random guess Tina, but i could be wrong... it's still D1 and we need some of the lurkers to post here to get some reads.

My view on the X-files: i think X would be more worried if his train got bigger. What i see here is townies going after eachother, no real mafia in there...

Ithi is town, from what i can tell. So are the people 'defending' me, from my pov.

and now, seeing i hurt my back last weekend, i will go to bed soon

see red ... is it possible to have a kind of townie or third party with info about the roles we all have ?

Chels, I shot you last game for this kind of crappy defending. Why does it matter? If he is, his play is still anti-town. I know you are married, but you seem constitutionally unwilling to ever call Thane scum, even when it seems obvious. STOP DEFENDING PEOPLE, PERIOD. Not on day one. Day two, three, yeah, then start. Maybe you are LD, or Cop, or Tracker... But right now NO ONE deserves defending.

Scum - X, Thane, Chae - likelihood in that order.

@Anyone

Are Thane and Chae married irl?

Krakalakachkn · June 25, 2014

I noticed, while looking back through the last couple pages for the final D2 vote count (pg 68 btw), that CS already brought up the whole Thane spewing his team idea. Glad someone else thought of it too. Gotta say I like where his head is at.

Tsukibana · June 25, 2014

Krak, Yeah, Chae and Thane are married in RL.

Turin Turambar · June 25, 2014

@BFG, krak said she did and he replaced her so I guess he should know.

Turin Turambar · June 25, 2014

[V] csarmi [/v]

hazelkrs1 · June 25, 2014

Holmes and Watson returned to their rooms to find that Mrs. Hudson had set out a light evening supper. After eating, Watson stepped out of the building for a short while to see to his personal affairs. When he returned, things were strangely quiet. Lastrade and some other fellows from the Yard were approaching. "Something suspicious, perhaps," Watson told them. "Holmes gave no indication he was going out, but there is no sign he is in there."

Watson went up the stairs and was met by a frantic Mrs. Hudson. "Oh, Dr. Watson, 'tis horrible! You must come at once!" Watson rushed up the stairs to find a sight he never would forget the rest of his life. "HOLMES!!!" he called out, rushing to where his friend lay on the floor. Holmes was gasping for breath, trying to speak despite the knife wound in his throat. "Watson. You must... must..." What exactly had to be done would stay unsaid as the great investigator drew a last breath of air and then expired. The only sound for several long minutes was that of Mrs. Hudson weeping.

NotBob, Sherlock Holmes, Town Detective, has been killed.

It is now Day 3. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch DL is Fri. June 27th at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140627T21&p0=422

Outstanding.

I for one, doubt scum would get so lucky with their shot. I suspect Role Cop. Assuming Thane named all the scum roles (I still think that was his signal to his team), I'm thinking Chae was totally lying with that "My action failed" business, and that she actually submitted a role cop that night as part of her JOAT abilities. Krak trying to half-heartedly show the same stuff Csarmi was showing yesterday does nothing for me. Turin never claimed a protective role or anything, and didn't seem quite as peeved @ Chae for potentially outing his role, so I'm thinking he was as surprised as she acted that the shot failed, thinking someone else mebbe protected him.

[v]Krak[/v]

hazelkrs1 · June 25, 2014

Also, I kinda wish someone other than BFG had posted the posts she recently posted. She was already LOCK CLEAR for me :sad:

But anyhoo, bout to run audit, will try and trove for more later.

hazelkrs1 · June 25, 2014

Turin, don't you think it would be more wise to lynch the scum JOAT today, rather than Csarmi who is likely a goon?

Pralaya · June 25, 2014

I for one, doubt scum would get so lucky with their shot. I suspect Role Cop.

Isn't Town Detective a role cop? At least, that is what I get from google.

csarmi · June 25, 2014

Turin, don't you think it would be more wise to lynch the scum JOAT today, rather than Csarmi who is likely a goon?

Yup. Let's mislynch Chrak first, then come up with a way to lynch Csarmi and the game is in the bag for you.

What about... NOT

csarmi · June 25, 2014

I'd say we start with Despo from the scum team.

[v]Despo[/v]

I'm happy to lynch any of them though.

csarmi · June 25, 2014

Note: in all likelyhood we have a single mislynch left unless we got a vig who shoots a scummers (if we do, it's high time for that). I'd say game started with 4 scum, 1 symp and 11 townies (there is a chance it was 3-1-12 but I find that less likely, cause normally the role madness would give some extra power to town).

Also we might just need some actions/result so if anyone has anything, it might be time to act.

Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

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