[Advanced] Red Wedding Mafia - Post Game, MakersMark

[Tommyrod]

[_CLOUD]

The severe lack of pressure you've had all game, your interactions with Dawn and others, and the fact that you've been extremely vocal about every lynch that's occurred and you're batting close to 1.000 on town lynched - if Red is indeed town then I believe you actually are at 1.000 are pointing me toward you being scum.

 

And not to mention this total piece of garbage reasoning for suspecting someone else of being mafia. Especially when you concider all the evidence that has been brought up against Dice. There has been a lack of pressure against Tommy because everyone has read him as one of the towniest players in the game together with CrajJay and Yates. You saying that you find him scummy because of his "interaction with Dawn and the others" reads like a complete bogus reason that you just came up with to just to fill empty spaces in your post. And last but not least you accuse him of being mafia because he has been the most active player in the game. Seriously?

[Tommyrod]

I'll second that.

[_CLOUD]

Anyway it's almost 2 AM where I live so I will be going to bed. Amega will take care of the rest.

[Tommyrod]

The timing certainly works out... doesn't show his guns until Dice is at L-1.

[Tommyrod]

I say "guns" a bit tongue in cheek of course, the arguments from both scummers were vague and fluffy for posts meant to emulate must lynch persuasive save-the-game moves.

[Darthe]

Lightning struck.

 

All was black.

 

It hit again, flash illuminating his cold body laid out on a stobe slab worn smooth over the ages. Qyborn stood resolutely over the corpse.

 

Darkness.

 

Another flash, this one so close the thunder shook the house. A finger twitched. Qyborn smiled. He was alive.

 

CrayJay, Robb Stark - Town Cop lives

[Darthe]

...

[Darthe]

Lightning flashed once more, a single piercing strike. The body lay cold and lifeless on its stone. Qyborn must have been mistaken. He would have to redouble his efforts. He had just the man in mind.

 

Crayjay - Robb Stark, Town cop remains deceased

[dawnflower8]

....what just happened?

[Cory Caboose]

I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaack

[Cory Caboose]

Wait no I'm not

 

Bye

[amegakure]

what?

[Lenlo]

Lightning struck.

 

All was black.

 

It hit again, flash illuminating his cold body laid out on a stobe slab worn smooth over the ages. Qyborn stood resolutely over the corpse.

 

Darkness.

 

Another flash, this one so close the thunder shook the house. A finger twitched. Qyborn smiled. He was alive.

 

CrayJay, Robb Stark - Town Cop lives

Yaaaaay!

 

Lightning flashed once more, a single piercing strike. The body lay cold and lifeless on its stone. Qyborn must have been mistaken. He would have to redouble his efforts. He had just the man in mind.

 

Crayjay - Robb Stark, Town cop remains deceased

Nooooooo! Darthe y u do dis?

[dicetosser1]

awesome!

[dicetosser1]

Darthe you bastard!

[Xthrax]

What's the VC Darthe?

[dicetosser1]

Cloud - that was quite an abrupt about face.  Want to comment on why you suddenly think I'm scum after defending me for a few days?

 

Cause he is on the scum team with tommy. Why else?

[dicetosser1]

Darthe i think you should check the mafia team....the may need a change of pants lol

[Krakalakachkn]

Holy shit I don't think I've laughed that hard all game.

[amegakure]

why did you crap your pants when the noose drops? 

 

You dont have a case on anyone do you?

[Krakalakachkn]

 

Wooooow

 

 

So Cloud and Amega are now attacking me with Tom and neither have anything to say.  Tom's post about my bizarrely results oriented theory is garbage and is a complete dodge.

 

 

##Vote Tom

 

 

 

@Cloud - So you think I'm scum bc I disagree on Dice?  That leaves 6 other people for me to be wrong/right about.  Idk why you're taking this direction.

 

Yikes.

 

Okay, Dice and Krak. Who is the third?

 

 

 

So I'm going to come out of the woodwork to defend my scummate Dice when you and Megaloud both have me as town reads, Dawn is playing follow Tom, and Red is absent?  Why bother?  Why not just YOLO Dice?

 

There's not a good reason for me to "give myself up" especially when everyone knows there's another scum member out there.  Two could potentially coast (unless one is Dawn).

[Krakalakachkn]

 

So let me ask you this - you lynch Dice and he flips scum.  What's your next move?

 

I assumed I'd be dead at that point. I've thought about whether someone is busing him right now, because it would mean two of Len/Krak/Red are scum if not. I'm wary of Red coming in here today, promising a big catchup post, and voting for Dawn when Dawn is probably the easiest lynch. In a vacuum, the dead scum spew suggests Red mostly clear, Cloud fairly clear, says little about Dawn, X, or Lenlo, but makes Dice look significantly worse. Your approach out of the gate today makes me skeptical because it seems terribly wrong.

 

 

So you don't like Red voting for Dawn and you also think Dice and either Len/Me/Red are the last two scum?

 

 

 

Third would probably be Dawn, right? Otherwise they'd just push her instead of trying to push me.

 

Boomshakalaka?

 

And now it's Dawn?  

 

 

Are you just going to keep waffling until someone drops the hammer on Dice?

 

 

 

 

I'm not going to argue with you about whether you can or cannot read me (though I don't think you can).

 

You're basically yelling into an empty room that I'm scum, but you haven't tried to really push it. You made an emotional plea (if you guys wanna lose go ahead and lynch me) and a bad claim after an entire game of non-participation.

 

Other players have plausible deniability. Red was attacked by dead scum, Dawn and Lenlo have matching characters, Cloud brought up a case on Tina before she was outed and Verb tried to get Cloud lynched over himself.

 

But for you, it's just the opposite: both dead scummers distanced from you by making sure people knew they were "suspicious" of you without actually pushing you. That looks really bad. Combine it with the rest of your play in this game (or lack of play, really), and your comment last night about how Jack was "obvious town" before he flipped, and you're far and away the scummiest player remaining.

 

You've got a huge hole to dig yourself out of, and if you're actually town, you'd best get digging. Telling me I'm scum and not providing a reason sure as hell ain't gonna work.

My thing with Dawn is this: Theres no guarntee that Arya isnt scum. Robbs /wife/ was scum, and Walder, so characters alignments probably dont mean much they are just for flavor. 

 

i bet the reason robs wife was scum was because she was the sole factor that lead toe events later called the red wedding. 

 

@krak why would you tell people you want to see how they spin events in there favor that totally defeats the purpose of asking, Are you just talking cause you like the sound of your own voice. 

 

 

This super aggressive tone from Amega came out of nowhere.  Seriously, you sound like scum overplaying their tone bc they're close to victory.

 

 

Why do you always seem to be in perma catchup but seem to be so qualified on the discussion krak? 

 

Again with the overly aggressive tone in a post that does nothing but attempts to cast doubt not only on my reads but on my right comment and play this game.  Nothing of substance, just a character attack.

 

 

how do we have nothing to say if we are attacking you? logic fail.

 

we think you are acting scummy by desperately trying to clear your scum mate dice. Do you always vote people that call you out or is that just a scum trait? Why not vote the multiple other suspects you have.

 

Is that an adequate amount of words?? 

 

Again.  You're attacking me without commenting on anything, you're just flinging mud.  

 

Who am I voting only because they called me out?  I clearly stated I thought Tom was scum over Dice before Tom ever "called me out."  Furthermore he had me as a town read before I voted for him so idk wtf you think you're talking about here, but you're completely wrong.  

 

I also clearly stated that I thought Dawn and Lenlo were most likely based around my scum read on Tom.  Obviously you aren't even bothering to read what I'm posting you're just yelling at me.

 

 

 

Cloud - that was quite an abrupt about face.  Want to comment on why you suddenly think I'm scum after defending me for a few days?

 

I must have obviously been wrong about you since I firmly believe that Dice is scum. I think you and Lenlo are his teammates because I don't see anyone bussing him at Lylo; His teammates would do everything they could to get his countertrain lynched instead which you are now trying to do by pushing against both Tommy and Dawn. I admit that Lenlo doesn't fit really well into this scenario but him refusing to go against anyone so far today is telling on it's own and I think he is trying his best to remain on the background and let the other players push for either Tommy or Dawn so he can come in for the hammer.

 

 

Ok, lets go through this since I'm not rushed.  You must have been wrong in your read of me because you firmly believe Dice is scum?  Why hasn't this come up before when our reads differed?  You admit your evidence against Lenlo is circumstantial and yet my evidence is invalid because it's circumstantial?  How do you reconcile that?  Why aren't you questioning or prodding him instead of trying to force his lack of hammer into your circumstantial read on me?  

 

 

 

 

The severe lack of pressure you've had all game, your interactions with Dawn and others, and the fact that you've been extremely vocal about every lynch that's occurred and you're batting close to 1.000 on town lynched - if Red is indeed town then I believe you actually are at 1.000 are pointing me toward you being scum.

 

And not to mention this total piece of garbage reasoning for suspecting someone else of being mafia. Especially when you concider all the evidence that has been brought up against Dice. There has been a lack of pressure against Tommy because everyone has read him as one of the towniest players in the game together with CrajJay and Yates. You saying that you find him scummy because of his "interaction with Dawn and the others" reads like a complete bogus reason that you just came up with to just to fill empty spaces in your post. And last but not least you accuse him of being mafia because he has been the most active player in the game. Seriously?

 

So you don't think it's weird that everyone he has gone after had ended up dead besides Red?  I don't find that part surprising when you consider that Red claimed BG and Mish claimed VT.

 

 

 

Cloud, what is the case against Dice besides him not being active?  I haven't seen anything other than the "scumslip" of claiming Jack would flip town before the autopsy report.  That isn't a scum slip in my mind.  I've done that before early in my 'career' and I was just stating my opinion.  I quickly learned not to do it bc of this exact situation now.

 

That said, I am 100% open to reassessing my thoughts on Dice if you can give me compelling evidence.

 

 

 

....what just happened?

 

Are you just lurking and waiting for Dice to be hammered?

[Krakalakachkn]

What's the VC Darthe?

 

 

UnOfficial Vote Count:

 

Tommy (2/5): Dice, Krak

Dawn (1/5): Red

Dice (4/5): Cloud, Dawn, X, Tommy

 

Not Voting (1/8):

Lenlo

[Krakalakachkn]

@Lenlo

 

 

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