[Advanced] Red Wedding Mafia - Post Game, MakersMark

[Tommyrod]

She's normally a selfproclaimed bulldog. She latches onto something and it's really hard for her to let go. That might be where the stubborn Nyn is seeing is coming from

 

Any insight into town/scum differences in Red's play?

[Yates]

Dear Tommyrod,

 

Your sig is too violent for Dawn some people in this thread. Please replace immediately with some variation of the following:

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

Your Friend,

 

Yates

[Xthrax]

Just back home, from the hospital-phone died while I was posting from the phone, so couldn't do much.

 

Firstly,

 

Ok here is Tress.
Now to address your reads. At the first glance you are hinging everything on Desbat.

Now according to your post Wombat is scummy since he did something and ddoes the opposite. Now I don't agree with 2 of the things here. After Mish,s initial flailing she jumps on my OP as scummy. Wombat comes in here and questions that judgement.
If I remember correctly, what wombat calls out on Cloud is that he says the pressure struck a nerve. Wombat says here that Mish is known to be an emotinal player which is then agreed upon.

Mish continued to be twitchy and tries to redirect attention away which results in her vote.

So the soft defense and then sheeping hasn't occured the way I look it.

Now Dawn's noob pass. Its true that she hss been acting in an unconcerned manner. I would like to have Dawn say something in relation to what has happened.

But just that one thing is not IMO complete enough to call someone scummy

Is X's scrit usually awkward like this?

 

Now that was awkward

 

Seriously, I cannot see what was awkward 'bout it. Care to elaborate?

[dawnflower8]

Dear Tommyrod,

 

Your sig is too violent for Dawn some people in this thread. Please replace immediately with some variation of the following:

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

Your Friend,

 

Yates

And why is it too violent?

[Tommyrod]

Just back home, from the hospital-phone died while I was posting from the phone, so couldn't do much.

 

Firstly,

 

Ok here is Tress.

Now to address your reads. At the first glance you are hinging everything on Desbat.

 

Now according to your post Wombat is scummy since he did something and ddoes the opposite. Now I don't agree with 2 of the things here. After Mish,s initial flailing she jumps on my OP as scummy. Wombat comes in here and questions that judgement.

If I remember correctly, what wombat calls out on Cloud is that he says the pressure struck a nerve. Wombat says here that Mish is known to be an emotinal player which is then agreed upon.

 

Mish continued to be twitchy and tries to redirect attention away which results in her vote.

 

So the soft defense and then sheeping hasn't occured the way I look it.

 

Now Dawn's noob pass. Its true that she hss been acting in an unconcerned manner. I would like to have Dawn say something in relation to what has happened.

 

But just that one thing is not IMO complete enough to call someone scummy

Is X's scrit usually awkward like this?

 

Now that was awkward

 

Seriously, I cannot see what was awkward 'bout it. Care to elaborate?

Your writing style in that post is very stop and go, I can't really explain it as I don't know the correct terminology. Is English your first language? Not meant to be an offensive question.

[Leelou]

1. Mistress (Mish/Tress) - If it was just Mish, I'd say straight up flustered. With Tress if feels like damage control and not fully liking how in her quick recap that she tied a few people to how Desbat flips. I feel like they've reigned in a bit and are trying to tighten up their game. Mish - how do you feel about X now? Townish with a hint of scum

2. Desbat (Wombat/Des) - I've liked Wombat's play so far. I'd like to see some more from Des though. Most memorable posts are him talking about dreams. 

3. Nolbat - He seems to be trying, I wouldn't say he's giving his all yet, but I wouldn't call him scum either. Lazyish townie. 
4. Krak - Where you at? 3 posts? Not cool, man. Not cool. 
5. MegaLoud (Amega/Cloud) - Undecided. Cloud is #scumday1nomatterwhat and Amega isn't the strongest of players. So far Cloud hasn't done anything uber scummy to get a vote from me. null 
6. Crayjay (Cory/Andrej) - posting has been strong from both Cory and AJ, leaning town on them 
7. Lenlo - Mostly spammy, null. I'd like to see some comments on the events in the game. I know you can do it. 
8. X - I didn't see his op the way Mish did. I think he responded alright to Mish and Tress. I'd like to see some commentary from him on Red
9. Dawn - seems a bit jumpy, not sure if it's her newness still or if she doesn't want the attention on her. Null to slight scum 
10. Jack - just got to the party. Welcome
11. Princess Verbalina of Kindelbury (Verb/Tina) - Verbal seems on par for his level of posting. Tina could be a bit more inquisitive, but so far she hasn't set off my scum radar yet. Null
13. Dice - Barely active, but has been commenting on game play. Slight town lean, will change to a scum lean if he's not more active though
14. Zanube - Have you seriously only made 2 posts?!? 1 to say hi and 1 to comment on dreaming? 
15. Red - I'm still having a hard time with your claiming as early as you did, especially after the ration of crap you gave Yates for his claim. We weren't near deadline and you were just at half the vote required for a lynch. Are you still voting Tommy over the Goat thing? Leaning jumpy scum. Also - I won't read skittle puke or quotes within quotes, so I probably won't read half your posts. 
16. Nyankat (Nyn/Kat) - Meow. Okay, Nyn so far seems genuine in her posting. Townish lean on her
17. Mynd - Doing his beating the grass thing. Hi Mynd. So you thought Red claimed a big gun for a bit? Yeah unfortunately not. How do you feel about her super early claim? Why fear the hydras? 
18. Tommy - I don't really see where Tommy is "squirming" like Red seems to think he is. His posts are coming off with a townie vibe. Town lean
19. Yates - opened with a claim of VT, slight distraction but haven't seen any erratic behavior from him. Null 

 

##unvote, vote Red

[Nolder]

Just back home, from the hospital-phone died

 

Thanks Obamacare

[Red2111]

first my posts to yates, because he's really starting to ping.  then my WoT 

 

 

 

i could roll with lynching Yates though.  his reaction to people poking him about his claim diserves a bit more pressure imo

Misrep #2. Name all of the "people" poking me about my claim that I'm reacting to. I contend that number is a grand total of 1 - you. As a sidebar - if you think you have enough game to "pressure" me you are sorely mistaken. Feel free to ask around. I'm cooler than the other side of the pillow even with a guilty result on my slot.

so theres other game related stuff happening, but now that no ones presuring you directly you go back to spammign it up.  *nods*

What, specifically, required my attention or response at that particular juncture? Also, I am not a member of this community outside of this mafia forum. Are you trying to portray my effort to have some fun with this particular player base as scummy?
 
 

aside from defending yourself, you're only other interaction has been to lay WIFOM, and respond to off topic content (lucid dreaming and now the above)

Misrep #3. Do you feel as though my challenge on your logic is simply "defending" myself? If so, why do you suppose so many people started voting for you AFTER I started challenging your logic and motivation?

Misrep #4. Show me the wifom. Oh wait. You can't because you are the one creating it.

As far as the off topic stuff goes; I've put in a good day's work. I've found scum. Now I can kick up my heels and enjoy myself a bit while everyone else works on their cases. So sue me.

 

 

#2 - others aside from me have mentioned the oddness of your claim, they just didn't engage you over it like i did.  you were starting to arue with AJ for a while there. 

 

re-activity.  no i'm simply pointing out your posting trends.  you can have fun and scum hunt; so far all i've seen from you is having fun and defending your claim when someone questions it, these are posting trends i see as being scummy.  you have yet to make comments about the Mishtress case, or even the other points brought up (like some of the good points Tress makes about Desbat).  instead, you dont.

 

#3 - no, i feel that your "logic" against what i was posting on was centered more towards off topic stuff (like debating the sematnics of a nilla and how to scum hunt) and was designed to redirect from the points i was making into tryign to make me look scummy by having a long drawn out pointless arguement. 

 

#4 - your claim and the way you did it is the WIFOM.

 

 

re-bold - you're refering to me correct, claiming that you've foudn me, scum, and there for your good with my lynch.  i just want to highlight this given some of your other posts

 

 

 
 

Here is the thing, if we are wrong about Red and she is indeed a BG, we could lose a valuable role and the scum can experience relief.

What - specifically - makes gives you cause to believe her role claim is legit? Or, do you simply believe all claims? And also, how do you propose Red confirms her role? Challenging question, isn't it? That's why it's a premium scum fake claim.

Sure, there is the chance that she might kill another townie, but I trust Town Red's scumhunting skills.   Put a gun in her hand and you've got Black Widow.   I can see why the mafia are scared of her in this game.

You do?? Wow. Because I'm not seeing those skills on display. Like - at all.

 

 

so with the pruple you continue to cast doubt on my role claim.  yet with the green you respond to where Mynd, where he comments on my scum hunting abilitys as TOWN, and you say "wow not seeing any of those skills on display".

 

please clarify what you meant by the underlined: becuase Mynd mentions a specific alignment.  to me, this says you're either over looking this mention of alignment or you think i'm town.

 

 

 

 

I'd be less willing to vote Red as I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt over her claim for today.

For how long are you willing to give this "benefit of the doubt?" Just until she gets night killed?

 

 

 

wait ... i thought you said i was scum?  unless you're suggesting the scum will kill their own.

[Nolder]

Yeah I haven't really caught my stride yet.

I always feel a bit overwhelmed in large games.

If I live long enough to see the crowd thin you'll see more of my usual gameplay.

[Nolder]

^@Leelou

[Nynaeve]

 

Whew. Caught up.

 

Need a ciggi :P

 

 

Red has some good qualities and some less desirable ones. Right now it just feels like she's being stubborn. Annoyingly so. But stubborn none of the less. Paired with her playing style and claim I rather see more of her before I decide. For now I feel pretty good about my vote on Mish. I know she's known for being a nervous wreck. But she's been too frantic about pointing the heat elsewhere and allowing herself to be inconsistent in the process. Tress can do all the damage control she wants.... but that's one of the disadvantages of being a hydra. Your partner takes you down with him.

 

 

Can you tell me more about Red and your perception of her usual play? What I've seen so far is confusion, myopia, reality twisting, and pure hypocrisy. Feel like you've got a double standard regarding Red and Mish. Both players have been engaging in a bit of whyme=fryme. If anything I'd say Mish looks better than Red, not the other way around. Tress's post explaining Mish's behavior makes sense to me. 

 

 

Red does have a tendency to latch on to the smallest unimportant detail for her dear life. And she won't let it go. Ever. And she tends to be awfully vocal. I don't find it that odd that she pointed someone out as scum and had her vote on someone else. She tends to zoom on a couple of people usually and not get locked on one player, like some do. I also don't find it surprising that she kept the vote put once people reacted to it. She's having the typical redhead reaction of digging in her heels to prove whatever it is she's trying to prove. I'm not saying I necessarily agree with her way because at times her play style can screw town over.... but sometimes she does manage to pick up on useful info. Throw in her claim and I'm just not up for voting her.

 

As far as Mish goes, I have played with her before. I know how she gets. Her overreacting has gotten her lynched before and if it was just that I wouldn't be pressing her right now. It's what she did afterwards that bothered me. I don't see her reaction after being prodded by Mynd as attempts to get the game going. Her vote seems weird. Her pointing out at Tress was weird. It didn't seem like her overreacting anymore. It seemed to me like she got nervous.

 

As far as what Tress said, candid as it seemed.... well lets just say I'm not gonna be rushing to believe they're town because of it. Mish is as likely to have an emotional breakdown as town or scum. Which means that whole speech of letting her emotions bleed into the game doesn't take away from the fact that she could just as easily be scum buckling over from the pressure. Be it RL issues or not being able to take some heat so early on. It's no real guarantee.

 

 

 

Nyn

 

[Yates]

And why is it too violent?

It has a gun. A GUN!!! I can not abide by the corruption of our youth. My old avatar was one of Death enjoying an adult beverage. I have followed my own advice and cleaned up my act.

 

[dawnflower8]

 

And why is it too violent?

It has a gun. A GUN!!! I can not abide by the corruption of our youth. My old avatar was one of Death enjoying an adult beverage. I have followed my own advice and cleaned up my act.

 

 

I've shot a gun before, though. It's too late. I'm already corrupted. 

[Yates]

first my posts to yates, because he's really starting to ping.  then my WoT

Before I go any further... why didn't you address misrep #1? I think that's odd because it's NUMBER ONE.

[Xthrax]

Secondly

 

 

Changed my story how? Show plz.

This is the moment when you changed your story:

I'll spell it out for you Mynd.

I haven't checked the game all day. Decided to catch up before going to bed. Saw it had twelve pages, wasn't exactly looking forward to going through that while tired. Jumped to the last page to check the mood of thread. Was happy it was still jokes, no need for serious brain activity before bedtime. Decided to post picture I just saw in my tmblr feed. Capiche?


And it's just Mish, or Mistress if you prefer

 

Didn't say that, Mynd. Said I was reading the thread before going to bed. Takes me a while to get ready, so reading and replaying to the game in the meantime.

But now im done with all that. So see ya all tomorrow.

 

This is bad. Striking a nerve with Mish is null and you know it. And nudging Red while voting Mish is doubly bad.

I’m well aware that Mish is an emotional player but there is a difference between being easily riled up and doing a lousy job at defending yourself. She was trying to divert attention away from herself and onto X for an opening post that didn’t stick out to me in any kind of way, and now she is defending herself by pointing out how nobody has said anything about Tress while she has yet to write her first game related post. And as for me nudging Red while voting Mish: I only have one vote dude. If I had two I would have voted both of them because as I have already explained I find both of them scummy and creating competing trains would be a good idea.

 

 
How is this changing my story? I read up on the thread. As I stated I would in my first post, wich you conveniently neglected to include.
 
Let me include my whole sequense of posts...
 

 

I was about to complain about catching up on 12 pages, and then I skimmed the last page and looks like it's still joking. Awesome. That means I can post this:

 
Saying here I'm going to catch up.
 

Misused memes *shudder*
 
 
Much easier to look over 12 pages of jokes right before bedtime, than serious game.

 
Here I say I'm looking over the game.
 

 
I'll spell it out for you Mynd.
 
I haven't checked the game all day. Decided to catch up before going to bed. Saw it had twelve pages, wasn't exactly looking forward to going through that while tired. Jumped to the last page to check the mood of thread. Was happy it was still jokes, no need for serious brain activity before bedtime. Decided to post picture I just saw in my tmblr feed. Capiche?
 
 
And it's just Mish, or Mistress if you prefer

 
Here I again state I was going to catch up.
 

 

 

 
I'll spell it out for you Mynd.
 
I haven't checked the game all day. Decided to catch up before going to bed. Saw it had twelve pages, wasn't exactly looking forward to going through that while tired. Jumped to the last page to check the mood of thread. Was happy it was still jokes, no need for serious brain activity before bedtime. Decided to post picture I just saw in my tmblr feed. Capiche?
 
 
And it's just Mish, or Mistress if you prefer

 
So you see the thread is still jovial, seem happy by that. Make an over explanatory post about joining in on the jokes, get called out on your post, wade through the thread trying to make it serious and now complaining about being called out for making a joke post. Is that right?

 

 
No, I'm rolling my eyes at the sorry excuse for votes I was getting.
 

 

 
I'll spell it out for you Mynd.
 
I haven't checked the game all day. Decided to catch up before going to bed. Saw it had twelve pages, wasn't exactly looking forward to going through that while tired. Jumped to the last page to check the mood of thread. Was happy it was still jokes, no need for serious brain activity before bedtime. Decided to post picture I just saw in my tmblr feed. Capiche?
 
 
And it's just Mish, or Mistress if you prefer

 
so let me get this striaght.
 
you didn't do the blue, instead only doign the green and assumed the red because of one page

 

 
I was posting while starting catching up, yes. And that is a problem because....?

 

 
Here I state I am catching up and posting while doing so.
 

Didn't say that, Mynd. Said I was reading the thread before going to bed. Takes me a while to get ready, so reading and replaying to the game in the meantime.
 
But now im done with all that. So see ya all tomorrow.

 
And again, saying I read the thread before hitting bed.
 
 
 
I forgot to quote the post where I quoted and voted X, but that should have shown I was indeed reading up.
 

 
 

 
 
So tell me again please Cloud. How did I change my story?
 

 

 

 

 

Yates: Wish he'd post more about the game in general, has mostly been going head to head with Red and nothing else. Iffy, mixed read.

Wombat: What Tress said, basically. Also misreps (said he wanted me to comment on more people, when I had just done so). His questioning of Red p29 is a bit better though. But my gut says scum.
Des: As said before, didn't come into the game like he does, almost zero gameplay content, discusses off.topic things instead. Highly pingy. Has had a few posts on later pages, but still no game content.
Scum lean on this slot.

Red: Slig ht scum lean. Her reason for keeping her vote on Tommy is eh at best.  Bad gut feeling. Going in circles with Yates over a tiny thing, seems like wanting to give the impression of scumhunting without actually doing. She followed Mynd onto me, then turned on Tommy for a joke vote, and then was stuck in semantics back and forth with Yates forever. Claim helps negate some of the bad stuff, but OP says scum has safe claims, so not completly.

CloudAmega: Amega, I can't remember much of his posts, gotta go back and look when I come home tonight. Cloud, scum, seriously misrepping me, and not commenting on anything else in the game.  Big fat scum.

AJ: good town read so far.
Cory: Null so far, hard person for me to read.

Jack: Immediatly comes in and links AJ and Red, doesn't say why. Doesn't get to posting before Darthe has threatened with modkills. Iffy feels.

Dice: Also comes to play when darthe threatens with modkills, saying he can play now that the memefest is over. Memefest was over well over 10 pages before that... Iffy feels.

Mynd, town lean, feels like his posts at me were trying to get the game going and see what happened from it.

Dawn, unsure. Slightly leaning unsure newb town so far. She's less flippant than in the game I played with her when she was mafia.

Xthrax, focuses solely on Mistress when he posts after I first voted him... Not good. He is usually more vocal than this. FoS. Slight scum lean.

NyanKat: Don't like Nyn not commenting on anything else going on when she came back. But essentially null.

Zanube: Has very few posts and most are off.topic as far as I can remember. Slight scum.

Tommy: Town read so far.

Nolder: Null.

Lenlo: Null.

Verbalina: Haven't been able to get much of a read out of their posts,, based ourely on meta I have a slightly bad gut feel. But I'll need to see more to get a proper read. Null.

Hallia/Leelou: Pretty much null. Although not a fan of the parked vote and little commentary on new content from Leelou. Bit better feel from Hallia.

 

 

 

##unvote vote Cloud

 

I'd be less willing to vote Red as I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt over her claim for today. Still more than happy about going back to X, or switching to DesBat.

 

Firstly just to address your read on me.-

 

I'm quite sure you must be mistaken. Vocal-me?! I'm in no way that vocal. I'm not sure you have played a lot of games, but in anyway-I'm not that vocal at all. 

As for the sticking to Mishtress part-it is because I felt there was something to go on there. I know I haven't focused on the Red thing, but thats because of most of this happened while I was asleep and I was out all day today with my phone dead. I'm gonna look at it now.

 

What I see of your reads-you have basically fos'd and called scum everyone who has played attention to your posts. Cloud, me and wombat with other scum leans. Zanube for one has so far 2 posts, but just basing that for a scum read is pretty wrong in my book. As I recollect, so far I think all she has played was one game so far. Probably due to inexperience.

 

Des, meanwhile hasn't played according to meta at all. That's true. But I disagree with you there. Using a meta to determine a persons tone or his quality or content in game is fine. But using meta for their activeness is not right IMO. There is no way to judge how and why a person would choose to be active/inactive. Power loss or internet being down for a few days is enough. So no, I don't agree with your assesment. I rather choose not to assess Des's meta. I have just been mafia once with him and his town play was extremly similar.

 

Also what do you mean by iffy reads?

[Tommyrod]

Red does have a tendency to latch on to the smallest unimportant detail for her dear life. And she won't let it go. Ever. And she tends to be awfully vocal. I don't find it that odd that she pointed someone out as scum and had her vote on someone else. She tends to zoom on a couple of people usually and not get locked on one player, like some do. I also don't find it surprising that she kept the vote put once people reacted to it. She's having the typical redhead reaction of digging in her heels to prove whatever it is she's trying to prove. I'm not saying I necessarily agree with her way because at times her play style can screw town over.... but sometimes she does manage to pick up on useful info. Throw in her claim and I'm just not up for voting her.

 

As far as Mish goes, I have played with her before. I know how she gets. Her overreacting has gotten her lynched before and if it was just that I wouldn't be pressing her right now. It's what she did afterwards that bothered me. I don't see her reaction after being prodded by Mynd as attempts to get the game going. Her vote seems weird. Her pointing out at Tress was weird. It didn't seem like her overreacting anymore. It seemed to me like she got nervous.

 

As far as what Tress said, candid as it seemed.... well lets just say I'm not gonna be rushing to believe they're town because of it. Mish is as likely to have an emotional breakdown as town or scum. Which means that whole speech of letting her emotions bleed into the game doesn't take away from the fact that she could just as easily be scum buckling over from the pressure. Be it RL issues or not being able to take some heat so early on. It's no real guarantee.

This is pretty insightful, thanks. If you look at what I said regarding Tress's peek into Mish's mind, you'll see why I concluded it's more likely to be written by a townie, but I see what you're saying. I don't recall witnessing a Mish meltdown (Mishdown?) myself so I didn't know that was a... thing. I'll try to keep an open mind just in case. 

 

As for Red: sounds like a liability... at best. Hooray.

[Yates]

I've shot a gun before, though. It's too late. I'm already corrupted.

In case it isn't clear, I'm just teasing you because I'm literally old enough to be your father. And that makes me feel sad.

 

Unrelated - what country are you from and how certain are you of your paternal lineage? Just saying...

[Leelou]

Yeah I haven't really caught my stride yet.

I always feel a bit overwhelmed in large games.

If I live long enough to see the crowd thin you'll see more of my usual gameplay.

 

 

^@Leelou

 

Cool, yo. 

[Xthrax]

 

Just back home, from the hospital-phone died while I was posting from the phone, so couldn't do much.

 

Firstly,

 

Ok here is Tress.

Now to address your reads. At the first glance you are hinging everything on Desbat.

 

Now according to your post Wombat is scummy since he did something and ddoes the opposite. Now I don't agree with 2 of the things here. After Mish,s initial flailing she jumps on my OP as scummy. Wombat comes in here and questions that judgement.

If I remember correctly, what wombat calls out on Cloud is that he says the pressure struck a nerve. Wombat says here that Mish is known to be an emotinal player which is then agreed upon.

 

Mish continued to be twitchy and tries to redirect attention away which results in her vote.

 

So the soft defense and then sheeping hasn't occured the way I look it.

 

Now Dawn's noob pass. Its true that she hss been acting in an unconcerned manner. I would like to have Dawn say something in relation to what has happened.

 

But just that one thing is not IMO complete enough to call someone scummy

Is X's scrit usually awkward like this?

 

Now that was awkward

 

Seriously, I cannot see what was awkward 'bout it. Care to elaborate?

Your writing style in that post is very stop and go, I can't really explain it as I don't know the correct terminology. Is English your first language? Not meant to be an offensive question.

 

 

Ah sorry about that. English is indeed my first language. But as I explained my phone was pretty low on charge while I was reading the game today morning at the hospital. Seeing Darthe's post about low post counts, I decided to make a post or two. I typed in short sentences-like you said; stop and go. And while getting out my second one,my phone died. So that basically sums up the poor posts.

[Niniel]

I´m so sorry for not being active enough. I´ve had a really tough weak at work and yesterday I worked in the evening as well. My daughter is going to a disco in two hours so I will catch up then. 

[Tommyrod]

I´m so sorry for not being active enough. I´ve had a really tough weak at work and yesterday I worked in the evening as well. My daughter is going to a disco in two hours so I will catch up then. 

I don't know why but this really made me laugh. A disco? 

[Nynaeve]

 

I've shot a gun before, though. It's too late. I'm already corrupted.

In case it isn't clear, I'm just teasing you because I'm literally old enough to be your father. And that makes me feel sad.

 

Unrelated - what country are you from and how certain are you of your paternal lineage? Just saying...

 

 

<3  Can't stop laughing.

 

 

 

 

Nyn

[Red2111]

 

first my posts to yates, because he's really starting to ping.  then my WoT

Before I go any further... why didn't you address misrep #1? I think that's odd because it's NUMBER ONE.

 

 

because it would have just lead to more off topic convo.  if you want to debate my play style and the game mafia in general with me, eithe rmake a thread on the board outside of this game or feel free to PM me.

 

that said, i'm more interested in your response to this

 

 

I'd be less willing to vote Red as I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt over her claim for today.

For how long are you willing to give this "benefit of the doubt?" Just until she gets night killed?

 

 

since you think i'm scum and all

[Cory Caboose]

Oh town, it's bigger

It's bigger than us

And i am not one

The lengths that I will go to

Distancing in your eyes

Oh no, I've said too much

I've said enough

 

That's me in the QT

That's me in the spotlight

Losing all my teammates

Trying to keep up with town

And I know I can't do it

Oh no, I've said too much

I haven't said enough

 

I thought that I heard me slipping

I thought that I heard I'm done

I think I thought I should concede

 

courtesy of Rayn

[dawnflower8]

 

I've shot a gun before, though. It's too late. I'm already corrupted.

In case it isn't clear, I'm just teasing you because I'm literally old enough to be your father. And that makes me feel sad.

 

Unrelated - what country are you from and how certain are you of your paternal lineage? Just saying...

 

Yes, I know you're teasing me XD

 

I'm American. I only shot a gun because I had to to pass hunter safety class. (Which I only took because it was the only way they would allow me into an archery competition, I don't actually want to hunt.)