[Advanced/Experimental] Mass Effect I - Hydra Game - Game Over

[amegakure]

 

Ithi I've never played as mafia in a game with you.. Unless it was two years and I'm almost positive we didn't. So what makes you so sure of my meta?,

this is your post where you ask her how she can know about your meta. Not that her take on your meta is incorrect. If she was flat out wrong you could have just said that to start with instead of trying to say why she shouldn't know your meta. Things can get around. Ithi knows and has played with a load of people that go way back in DM mafia. heck her side job is working for DPR. 

 

So you were available and you did respond but you didn't refute that she was correct in her meta read on you. You attempted to deflect it another way with saying how she shouldn't know your meta.

 

i honestly dont know either of my meta's especially mafia.. i dont remember the last time i was scum i just know that it's unlikely she would regardless of who is talking. and dpr i highly doubt he remembers some noob that played a few games and dissapeared for 2 years. 

 

the fact is ithi is trying to lay down irrelavent evidence into a meta read that doesnt exist.

[amegakure]

 

 

Len. legit post. 

 

 

Don't call Ithi "love". 

Alright... Love.

 

 

Now you sound like Captain Jack Sparrow in my head.

 

 

Pirate. Savvy?

 

 

 

*edited for quote formatting error.

 

oh look ithi edited her post!!! she must be scum!!!! *sarcasm*

[amegakure]

##vote Thane

 

Ok so he first unvoted without voting for one of his scum reads which he thinks is either team WiFum or team Yolo. Like Turin said this move is often performed by mafia's who will either try to get two townies lynched or save a teammate. It's even scummier than normal because he didn't bother to vote for any of them. He also appears to be getting scummy vibes from RTE and Lenlo but again doesn't do anything with it and doesn't explain how it would fit into his other two scum reads. And lastly he lists teams HaXorz, J-TAG and CRUNK as neutral but doesn't give his opinion about the other teams. Are they neutral too or town?

So what is this basically just the long drawn out version of what ithi just said about thane. Are we back to the fake scum hunting lets follow the leader cause darthe isnt around to hold your hand. 

 

Lets be real. Thane's a newbie. But i know a few people who would be considered vets that to this day still make reads and dont back it up with a vote. *cough... coough... lily, rte, cough* Not everyone throws their vote around like a vegas stripper. 

 

it takes time and experience before vote hoping becomes a tool. I started out thinking i needed to only vote the person i thought was gonna be lynched that day.. and of course thats not playing a good townie... we all come into our own at our own pace..

[hazelkrs1]

[hazelkrs1]

Alright so first let me say well done, people. Outstanding activity lately, and this game is a literal goldmine for anyone looking for connections. Additionally, this hydra thing is kinda neat because at times I've seen a Hydra head come in to damage control after their other head flubbed or something, and this is a different situation than most are used to. So you get to see some things you might not see otherwise.

 

Just gonna pump a SOC out first since there's quite a lot I caught up on, and will then knock out a WOT after. Might do a whole reread in fact.

 

So Strawhats claim Tracker. Boy oh boy there's a lot that looks weird about how his claim came out. A couple have pointed out the oddness in Jack voting then unvoting, how it looks staged. Well add to that that Amega tried looking all righteous about not claiming at L-2, yet acts all scrambly and goes "Oh noes! Don't lynch the Tracker!" when he gets one more vote from Jack. What was he expecting? That instant flip in his tone and manner just does NOT mesh with a townie mindset. If Amega was gonna act all cool for school and not claim at L-2, I don't see him getting all panicky with his claim at L-1. Moar like "W/e guys, I'm the Tracker" would be expected.

 

There's actually a lot of other irregularities and pings from them (like Amega's recent reread posts are crap), but I for one would rather set them aside as practically confirmed scum and lynch elsewhere. I'll point out some of the other stuff in my wot.

 

Let's see what else... oh yeah IThuirlliiann is #LOCK CLEAR, whether they want to be or not hehe. Seriously, I just love having a mafia rival, because the best case scenario is that both me and Turin are town, and then scum see us going @ one another and are all "Lol, Turin and Des are tunneling on each other again, yay for us!" and then can't help but nudging the action on, or say that one of us seems like scum but not sure which (in an attempt to keep town distracted and set up mislynches). Seriously such a great way to fish for scum while reaction testing Turin at the same time.

 

##Unvote WiFuM

 

Clarthe aint LOCK CLEAR btw. Threw that out as a reaction test, and both failed. Also wanna point out how funny it is that Ithi calls Cloud out for not saying scum enough, then when he starts going "scum scum scum" in his next post she pats him on the head instead of fos'ing him for it. LAWLZ. I'll go more into that later.

 

So I thought RTL might be a good place for scum to be hiding, since they seemed to nudge a bit early on, and plus RTE threw out a big post that tried being good... but wasn't. The reads post I mean. Was bad. Rull bad. However, like the theme of this game apparently, Lenlo came in to damage control and posted a VURRRY townie-looking catchup post. They're looking town now to me. Gj Lenlofinger.

 

J-TAG stinks to me. TG doesn't have much content yet what little he has isn't good at all, and he's usually pretty vocal as town. AJ is a mess. Normally I find that when he's town he thinks very similarly to how I think as town, catches some of the same stuff and has the same opinion on stuff. This game that's not happening at all. I find myself disagreeing with almost everything he says. As far as his vote on me, it's turrrrrrrrible. It's literally one of the weakest pushes in the game, yet he acts like he has very strong scum reads.... If that's the case why isn't he pushing his case on us harder? Why isn't he quoting us or pressuring us himself? Nope, his vote was little more than a snipe vote when he first placed it and he has left his vote parked there even tho Verbal and I haven't been active and there's a LOT of other stuff going on. Then you get his whole defense of Strawhats... yeesh. Steerrong scum read on J-TAG.

 

Lastly I wanna talk about the Evil Sibs. First I wanna say I am actually somewhat tempted to policy lynch them for not reading wots. Thing is, I understand the whole personal preference thing. But that only makes sense for why they themselves wouldn't post wot's, it doesn't explain why they wouldn't read them. Any answer for why they don't read them besides pure laziness is just wrong. When someone gives you a wot to peruse, they're giving you more chances to catch them possibly if they're scum. You can catch little inconsistencies here or there, or note where their reaction to something major is muted and buried between other fluff in a wot or something. Straight up not reading wot's is just antitown behavior, period. If you're not gonna read posts because they're too long than you're essentially saying you don't care that much to try and find scum. Moreover look at both of their reactions after others reacted to them not reading wots. Jack skims the wot and links Lenlo to me and Verb, and this is almost all that he gathers, that Lenlo is apparently defending us a lot. This blatantly ignores the fact that Lenlo called Turin and Ithi town as much or perhaps even more than he called me and Verb town. Selectively picking stuff out of a wot to try and fos someone for is a blatantly scummy move.

 

Lily otoh, says she doesn't read wots. Okay. Then Turin asks both Lily and Jack to see if Lenlo's reasoning makes sense, which is essentially just imploring them to read the post. Lily reacts extremely defensively, saying "How would I know if his reasoning is bad if I didn't read his post?" which is just a bizarre reaction, and not one I see any townie having really. Even someone that's lazy and doesn't wanna read will prob go "Bleh, fine I'll go read it and tell you what I think" or mebbe if they're feeling obstinate might say "Nope, not reading it" but to get defensive like Lily did? Nuh uh. I also thought Ithi had a good catch much earlier with the part about Lily saying she thought something was going on between us (us being WiFuM and YOLOHASHSWAG) which I agree, DOES imply collusion. Lily pretty much just tried retreating as fast as she could from that whole discussion. Incidentally, her original "Something looks like it's going on between them, not sure which is scum" is EXACTLY the kind of post I was referring to before, when scum are happy to nudge me and Turin @ one another more.

 

Lastly Lily has had some strange flip flops. I distinctly remember her way earlier in the thread defending Strawhats, yet she then starts saying they're scummy and even says she'd be willing to vote them while they are at L-2 because Amega had already had a chance to talk. So first of all what she was proposing would have been antitown, it would have been a semirushed lynch when there's still time on the clock to milk for this day. Second, why talk all tough? Why not just place the vote instead? It's because she was trying to build up the appearance that she def wanted them lynched. Looks like distancing to me. Another flip flop I noticed was that Lily earlier said she thought YOLOHASHSWAG seemed like scum, yet even tho Verb and I hadn't posted in a while, recently when commenting on Lenlo's reads she says she disagrees with his read on WiFuM and thinks they're scum. She doesn't comment on the town read Lenlo had on us. Wonder why that is...... oh yeah cause Lily is scum and can't keep her "reads" in order lol.

 

Okay, my consciousness is streamed out. Gonna shake twice and zip up my noggin before going back through to peruse everything. Ttfn!

 

[hazelkrs1]

See, now that's a purdy post. Why would anyone say they want me to be more concise?

 

[Thane Vakarian]

Sorry to disappoint Des; it's just little ol' me posting.

 

Hallia, could you clarify your vote against the Straw Hats?

 

Also, Tina/Leelou. You state that you're not fond of our game, vote us and mention inthe same post that your reads don't match. Before voting someone, i want to make sure that my hydra andme agree before making a move. Besides following Darth's train against us, and saying what's already been said before (and more or less explained by me), do you really have a read or just a hunch? Leelou's uncommented votes already did not work in your favor.

 

Darthe: you voted against us, even though you feel like RTL has a scum read on them as well. Are you just taking advantage of already having more votes against us (which, imo scum would do) or would you go for the best scumread you have. Got the feel that you're more feeling scum for RTLthan us... but don't change your vote. Wish to kill off as many as possible? Like Ithi stated, you set up future lynches, maybe on behalf of your mafia team?

 

Turin: i find iy cute that you still mention the OMGUS vote from the start. Holding on to every straw to keep votes against us, ey?

 

Lenlo: your vote against Straw Hats, only based on the train going on. What's your own input on this? i'm curious ifyou're not trying to turn attention away from other players

 

If one of the main reasons for voting Straw Hats is fence sitting, nudging and making mistakes, i'd suggest one takes a closer look on other teams who do similar things but seem to be able to get away with it. Monkey see, monkey do... but monkey hides and stays silent.

 

And, nice to read your post Des, looking forward to reading more from you (and others) the next days.

[amegakure]

lolz i dont think des knows what swag really means. :) 
 
 
 

 
 

[Niniel]

Sorry to disappoint Des; it's just little ol' me posting.

 

Hallia, could you clarify your vote against the Straw Hats?

 

Also, Tina/Leelou. You state that you're not fond of our game, vote us and mention inthe same post that your reads don't match. Before voting someone, i want to make sure that my hydra andme agree before making a move. Besides following Darth's train against us, and saying what's already been said before (and more or less explained by me), do you really have a read or just a hunch? Leelou's uncommented votes already did not work in your favor.

 

Darthe: you voted against us, even though you feel like RTL has a scum read on them as well. Are you just taking advantage of already having more votes against us (which, imo scum would do) or would you go for the best scumread you have. Got the feel that you're more feeling scum for RTLthan us... but don't change your vote. Wish to kill off as many as possible? Like Ithi stated, you set up future lynches, maybe on behalf of your mafia team?

 

Turin: i find iy cute that you still mention the OMGUS vote from the start. Holding on to every straw to keep votes against us, ey?

 

Lenlo: your vote against Straw Hats, only based on the train going on. What's your own input on this? i'm curious ifyou're not trying to turn attention away from other players

 

If one of the main reasons for voting Straw Hats is fence sitting, nudging and making mistakes, i'd suggest one takes a closer look on other teams who do similar things but seem to be able to get away with it. Monkey see, monkey do... but monkey hides and stays silent.

 

And, nice to read your post Des, looking forward to reading more from you (and others) the next days.

 

We have not been able to talk much at all. My internet disappeared and then Leelou´s. She felt like you just did some newbie mistakes but I felt it was more than that. She has not been on to read the latest stuff. 

 

I agree with Turin, Darthe and Des - that claim and unvote from Jack really looks fake. I won´t move our vote. 

[Thane Vakarian]

agreed, the vote/claim/unvote thing will never work in our favor, but thanks for the feedback

[Thane Vakarian]

i will follow this thread through notification, seeing i will have to go to work soon.

[Leelou]

I'm going to Starbucks in an few hours just so I can read this mess of a thread.

[Sedai]

Lol I pushed for a claim that he wasn't gunna give so I voted them because theyve been in our top 3 for scum all day. Plz check back.

 

He then gave the claim. I knew I was gunna be sleeping soon so I did the cautionary thing of signing of unvoting, taking a claimed investigative role from ninja hammer range and waiting to see what happened when people got playing today.

[Turin Turambar]

Thane, everything is taken into account. People get lynched from their first posts of the game. The omgus interaction with Jack early on coupled with the claim interaction is indicative of teamwork. Hence applicable.

 

Are we going to get actual reads from you guys or just snark?

 

I am off to work. See you later

[Pralaya]

Pral do you think Straw hats are likely mafia?

 

While I do consider the cases made against them, I cannot discount the fact that Thane is still a newbie. I feel that the more he tries to clarifies himself, the more he is being pushed to a corner. I have been in situations like that when I was starting out here. That was one of the "easy" lynches I was talking about earlier when the biggest trains were one the most vocal teams and the newbie team. Amega hasn't exactly been able to reverse Thane's predicament either. Frankly, if Thane is scum,I think  he would have been restrained much earlier by his teammates and I don't see him carrying out a planned move well. Most of his posts seem like his own slips being new to the game.

 

Also, Amega's claim as a tracker is a risky one. Not only that there is a possibility of a counterclaim but it is very difficult to go on with it as we go further into the game. If he is lying, he will be caught sooner or later. You also make a good point of him being a scum tracker, but that could be tracked using a cop or other investigative abilities. It is not a wise claim as a scum is what I feel.

 

(Also, I don't know where BFG is. She has not responded to me in my QT either. I think she is off during the weekend or something)

[Sedai]

Lol see this is why I think I was damned if I do and damned if I don't.

 

I push at Thane/Ameg and I think I'm first to call out the off behavior where at that time people thought I was reaching or making something out of nothing.

 

I keep them in top 3 scum list

 

I offer them a chance to speak before I place my vote. They decline so I place the vote.

 

They come out with an investigatory role. So I unvote as I am going to bed taking them from ninja hammer range.

 

Now if I kept them at L-1 and someone slides on a ninja hammer and straw hats flips town tracker lily and myself would be hounded for getting them to reveal and keeping our bogus as is.

 

I do find it strage you all are willing to lynch a claimant at an investigatory role.

 

Turin I ask you this, you said earlier, you didn't agree with a lot Lenlo has stayed but you could see his reasons. Can you see mine?

[Ithillian Turambar]

There's quite a few people saying Than is new so to cut him a break.

 

I hate second guessing myself but part of me wonders at this blatant defending. Do these people know Ameg and Than are Town or are defending a team mate?

 

They haven't defended themselves very well and the 'I'm not gonna claim, L-1 vote by Jack, claim and unvote' doesn't feel good to me.

 

But my break's over now.

[Leelou]

Okay, going through the thread...all I'm going to say is ugh. My internet keeps going out and Tina has a family issue. Due to this, we really haven't been able to talk much, but from what I can see, yes some of our reads vary. 

 

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - I don't like the way Turin stayed on Verbal for as long as he did. He also misrepped Verbal some, I didn't see any AtE from Verbal. I did see a whole bunch of buzz words from Turin and I wasn't liking the feel from some of Ithi's posts. I'm still not really sure how I feel about them, but Tina is getting a town vibe. 
YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - Verbal seems to be playing for the lulz and I've liked Des's posts so far. I'm getting a townish vibe and Tina is null. 
J-TAG (AJ, TG) - AJ tried to slow down the Straw Hats lynch, TG seemed to be a bit on the opposite spectrum, getting a null feel from them right now until I see some flips on the players they feel different about. 
PFG (Pralaya, BFG) - We both agree Pral's hunting and posts are coming off townish
Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - I have a problem reading RTE, I almost always find him scummy. Len's recap post was kinda meh. 
CRUNK (Monk, CoryCurren) - Who? Not much game play from them. Null 
Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) - Didn't really like the way Dap tried to make more out of Cloud's reactions to being voted over and over again. Null 
Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - I'm actually getting a townish read from Cloud's reactions to being voted by me, we both feel like Clarthe is townish 
Evil Siblings (Lily, Jack) - Jack is definitely the stronger of the pair. We both feel that Jack has had to come in behind Lily to clean up or clarify reads more. I'm watching them right now, there is a slight scum feel coming off of them. I can see where people are saying the reveal from the straw hats seems staged coming from your vote and then Straw hats revealing. 
Straw Hats (Amega, Thane) - I was getting mostly a newbie/not strong player vibe from this team. They have revealed tracker, but it is leaving a dirty taste in your mouth. Their reveal went - na na, poo poo, we aren't revealing at L-2...oh we are at L-1??? OMG GUYZ WE ARE TRACKER,WHY U VOTING US? Not sure I buy their claim as town tracker. Up until this point I was getting the newbie/not strong player townieness, but now it could just be a botched attempt to save one's self. I actually want to leave our vote here. 
HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - Bueller? 

[Hallia]

Strawhats I back 100% as mafia read

 

Null read on yourself and Ithi. Your questions seem to be good and genuine if a little redundant.

 

Like I said I'm going to wait and see on Lenlo but his subtle defense of hash swag has my eyebrows raised and couple that with his teammates earlier stuff that's got me believing them to be scum.

 

Turin, why are you trying to get me to account only for Lenlo and not RTE, or them as a whole for their actions, yet you have no such stipulation on straw hats?

 

What are your thoughts on Lenlo's reads?

 

What's your thoughts on Hallia's town vs town fence sitting statement, and my opinion on it?

 

Would also like ithi's take

 

 

Considering you see Straw Hats as mafia, and I was one of the first to really vote/go after them, it seems strange that you're also so sure that I'm mafia.  And also, what fence sitting?  There is no fence, I think they're both town.  Not sure how that's me stating I'm not sure one way or the other, I'm pretty sure that's me giving a definitive answer.  (Doing my best by myself, yesterday was a busy day and I dunno when my partner is coming back)

[Sedai]

Where you had a scum read but didn't vote it. That's fence sitting Hallia.

 

I'm not claiming to have the game figured out. Just stating my top candidates. Once we nail a member of he scum team we can move from their but as of right now I have my suspects and I've made it known why.

 

Again your "you think they are scum but I also said I think they were scum means I have to be torn to you." Line is also pinging my scumdar.

 

I can't remember you voting RTL. Did you just say they looked scummy and not vote? Cause that could be seen as covering your bases if both of you are on a scum team together

[hazelkrs1]

Okay, starting from the beginning. Will prob be a two parter, and I'll spoiler it for yall.

 

 

 

 

Night 0 gives everyone chance to check in and such.

That being said

##vote Strawhats

Number 11. Scum. End of story

 

 

.... ok, so i know i'm new, but where did this entire "#11 = scum" thing come from?

 

and, just so the Strawhats get at least one vote:

 

## VOTE EVIL SIBLINGS

 

name says enough for the moment. but i'll be watching you

 

Okay so right off the bat there's this. Jack votes the same way he always votes at the beginning of games. But when Thane responds, he doesn't ask Jack directly what the #11 thing comes from. He makes it seem like he's asking everyone else. He then places a "joke" OMGUS vote (Jack even later comments "Oh, a OMGUS vote, okay") on Jack/Lily.

 

11 is a time honored tradition I a hold placing my vote on the 11th name in the roster.

What team are you again :O

 

 

 

Aha, so it's your tradition... glad to know that for future reference :)

 

i'm team... umm... between 10 and 12?

 

Looks feyhk to me. Staged as hell, and Thane's comment is strangely evasive. Looks like newbscum stumbling out the gate imo. Failed to make the interaction with Jack look natural.

 

i had to look it up to.... OMGUS stands for "Oh My God, You Suck (for voting for me)!". it is sometimes used as a shorthand to indicate that you are voting for someone primarily because they voted for you.

 

i need to learn more mafia vocabulary...

 

Underlined: Thane starts playing up his noobness, this becomes a trend.

 

Heh, are we having an internal strife in the Evil Sisters team?

 

Only reason I quoted this is because Pray posted this fluff post right after some significant game interaction. He chose to ignore it all and felt like posting a fluff comment on Tina/Leelou.

 

Possible alert

 

All fluffy and cute and dripping blood *nods*

 

Then BFG, Pray's better half ( ), goes along with the fluff as well. No gameplay from PFG yet...

 

Goat locks clear !

 

 

Still none...

 

 

 

 

That isn't AtE, which is my point.  I'm not appealing to emotion.  Either way, this is distracting from our purpose.  You're scum and going for the easy lynch.  Problem solved.

Again with the "easy lynch" marlarkey. It is an appeal to emotion by saying that you are being unfairly voted because of a joke in the signup thread. But you got that kind wrong too  as you and despo are supposed to be day vigged and Cloud and Darthe are supposed to be lynched.  Which will certainly lead to Ithi and I being the N1 kill. 

 

If I am mafia then why aren't you voting for me(and Ithi)? You got a better lead elsewhere? Just waiting for someone else to start the train? 

this ^

 

Do you really think the swaghags are scum? it's day one and and you've already targeted the team des is on. Im just curious to know if your really taken this stance or your just that brash. 

 

@verbal either way it's still starting competeting trains of conflict. as we all know provides information.. so how is it distracting from what we should be ''doing''? 

 

 

 

 

Leelou why the vote on us?

 
Why not?

 
I thought as much. I wanted to know for certain though.

I feel like you think you've proven that this vote on you was meaningless and Voting you at this point is meaningless

You realise these posts you are making yourself a better vote right?

 

i dont think he does...

 

 

Both parts of this post are exceptionally gross. In the first part he is a major offender ofthe crime I spoke of earlier, scum trying to instigate a spat between IthiTurin and us. In the second he does an AWFUL nudge on Clarthe. Bleurgh.

 

You are not.

You're usually a bash bash bosh mess of suspicion.

And you say scummy more. Like all the time.

 

 

##vote Thane

 

Ok so he first unvoted without voting for one of his scum reads which he thinks is either team WiFum or team Yolo. Like Turin said this move is often performed by mafia's who will either try to get two townies lynched or save a teammate. It's even scummier than normal because he didn't bother to vote for any of them. He also appears to be getting scummy vibes from RTE and Lenlo but again doesn't do anything with it and doesn't explain how it would fit into his other two scum reads. And lastly he lists teams HaXorz, J-TAG and CRUNK as neutral but doesn't give his opinion about the other teams. Are they neutral too or town?

 

Lol Ithi how did you not call Cloud out on this?

 

 

Soooo obvious hehe

 

Time for the more serious scumhunting.

 

I'll be watching team WiFum and Yolo... one of you is scum, but i haven't figured out which one.... tending more towards WiFum for the moment.

 

Need to see more of teams HaXorz, J-Tag and CRUNK to make up my mind about them... neutral for the moment.

 

i get a scummy vibe off of Release The Leno.... 
 

 

will be reading and re-reading this weekend, little short on time past 24 hours.

 

Bold: Moar of that thing I was talking about. Set us us two as the trains for the day, so that instead of giving your opinion on everyone you can just say you're leaning one way or the other on us. After all, besides the slight fos you give WiFuM the only other actual read you give is a lazy snipe type nudge on RTL in underlined.

 

I'm thinking the scum team was trying to use RTL as low hanging fruit besides trying to instigate WiFuM n YOLO. They would know RTE as town could still easily get himself lynched, and Lenlo normally wouldn't help much with that. Luckily Lenlofinger might have brought his "A" Townie game

 

It was a double nudge too. The old "I think one of them is mafia, but not sure which". That leads to either lynching two town or them suddenly dropping their teammates lower on the mafia list.

 

 

 

 

From what I've read, it reads to me that Yolo and WiFum is town on town.  Both teams are very skilled players, and scum could easily stand back and let them pick at each other.  I find the nudge-no-vote from Straw Hats scummy because that's what I used to do,  I was always afraid to actually vote, but I'd poke at people.

 

##Vote Straw Hats

 

See this is what scum would be more afraid to do in this situation. Make the unpopular (at the time) opinion that it was town on town. That's actually a much more protown type move to make as you're putting your neck on the line for getting called out for TMI (which Jack does btw)

 

Know more than I should? I dunno about that, besides what I know about those four from playing games with them. 

 

And then this was Hallia following up on Jack's fos. I like this here. Scum!Hallia is pro at sneaking utr, so prob would have not even responded to his fos at all, or at least not immediately, and if she did she would likely respond with fluff. Tho this is somewhat meta, I'm thinking Hallia is town atm.

 

i think lily might be on to something with swaghags and wifum being towny violence. Unfortunately turin and des will fall into their old ways again distract from actual scum hunting.

 

on the other hang #Vote RTE Nudges are bad kids. That goes to you as well thane. You being a bit new and all if your gonna call out have the players for being scum take a stance and vote one. how else do you expect to scumhunt. 

 

Alright the Lily instead of Hallia thing has been pointed out a lot with this post, but I also really don't like how Amega parrots the thought, but at the same time tries to discredit both teams (WiFuM and YOLO). I mean, look how he handles that. He doesn't try to look into the interaction between Turin and I, he just kinda assumes we're both town but that were hurting it somehow.

 

And then immediately after Amega votes for what looks to me like the scum's pick for low hanging fruit in RTL. RTE's nudge was bad, yeah, but it's still too easy a train for a townie to pursue without fleshing out Ithi/Turin more. (since they were voting for RTL during that period I believe)

 

The reason i didn't vote for either is quite simple actually: i want to be more certain before voting against someone. As for RTE... call it a hunch... still working on something secure against them. Call it a n00b move, but i don't wish to falsely accuse (or perhaps i'm too gentle?). For the other teams, they have a neutra/leaning town read. Sorry for not specifying.

 

i think lily might be on to something with swaghags and wifum being towny violence. Unfortunately turin and des will fall into their old ways again distract from actual scum hunting.

 

on the other hang #Vote RTE Nudges are bad kids. That goes to you as well thane. You being a bit new and all if your gonna call out have the players for being scum take a stance and vote one. how else do you expect to scumhunt. 

i will keep it in mind, thanks for the tip.

 

that said...

 

i will try to improve my game. I'll listen to advice *nods*

 

Moar of Thane trying to overplay how much of a n00b he is

 

I think there is something going on between Ithi/Turin and Despo that I'd like to investigate further. I think one or the other is scum, probably Despo. 

 

I still agree with Ithi about this post, it seems completely contradictory.

 

Here's the thing, cause I know Lily or Jack will just try n come in here and say they answered this already. (emphasized enough for you Jack? ;)  )

 

If you're a townie, and you're commenting on an interaction between two other unknowns, the "standard" reaction would be to try and figure out which seemed to be coming out scummier in the exchange (or perhaps if both seemed to be likely town). The "abnormal" reaction is when you suspect it actually might be a gambit between the two parties.

 

Coming out and saying "I think there is something going on between __________ and __________ that I'd like to investigate further" doesn't imply a standard reaction. It implies that you think something is UP, as in things are not as they seem. What is appeared to be on the surface with WiFuM and us was us calling the other scum. Ergo the abnormal situation here would be if in fact we were both scum pulling something funny.

 

I think this was your slip Lily, and I think this is why you got so terse when being pressed on it before. Your emotion seemed genuine alright, but it was probably you being flustered at being pressed over the wording of that post because it WAS off.

 

So, the three top trains are two teams who are usually the most vocal in mafias and one team which consists of a newbie. I also see a lot of opportunistic voting that pushes these train without reason. I understand the case against Amega/Thane but the votes on Ithi/Turin and Verb/Des are quite suspect.

 

 Ithi/Turin and Verb/Des vote each other. Expected, based on the to and fro between them.

 

 

And, then there are 

 

(AJ's vote on us)

 

(Leelou's vote on WiFuM)

 

 

(Cory's vote on WiFuM)

 

Three votes with no reason, no talk about the to-and-fro between the two teams. 

 

Leelou/Tina's vote especially stands out after the joke strife between them, which looked like a good way to mask the intent and pushed the train on Des' team under the pretext of joke strife. The change of vote to Turin's team did not  have any reason either.

 

Evil Sisters, Crunk and J-Tag are the biggest suspects for me.

 

##vote Evil Sisters

 

Looks like it could be either a lazy or a fake scumhunting post. He just at random picks out three votes that didn't have any reasoning at the time or w/e and chose that to focus on. That kind of singular type of thinking will not help town win, you have to consider the big picture, in a macro sense as it were...

 

I will give him at least some credit in that this could be a novel attempt at finding a low-lying scum, so meh.

 

 

Lily nudges as both me and Turin and Despo and Verb ... one of us is Mafia ...

Turin says you are trying to say that that there is something there to look at perhaps.

Who do you think is most likely to be mafia?

That doesn't necessarily mean both you (the groups) are in communication. It means ones motives and actions aren't what they appear to be.

 

 

That's the thing tho Jack. What it "appeared to be" at the time was two hydras going @ it, calling the other scum (well, you know what I mean). One's motives and actions not being aligned with town's possibility is kind of what would be expected there, or at least it would be unless someone knew that both parties were in fact town. Otherwise, it would just completely be an empty scummy fluff post. It would be like saying "These two vocal players have been posting against one another. I think it's possible one could be scum..." which would be saying NOTHING.

 

Naw man. Lily wanted to try and comment like a townie but flubbed the wording up imo. She was trying to nudge on both of us while also instigating the violence.

 

 

[hazelkrs1]

Pt. 2:

 

 

 

 

Lily, I would think that you would have some opinion on Straw Hats (team #11). You were voting them if only because it was convenient. Jack had soem back and forth with them about you voting each other.  Also the thing with correcting Amega about using your name for Hallia's. 

I'll be watching team WiFum and Yolo... one of you is scum, but i haven't figured out which one.... tending more towards WiFum for the moment.

 

will be reading and re-reading this weekend, little short on time past 24 hours.

here they unvote you guys and get to "serious scumhunting" lol. then nudge and promise a reread. LMAO

 

I think there is something going on between Ithi/Turin and Despo that I'd like to investigate further. I think one or the other is scum, probably Despo. 

Do you find it odd that these lines are so similar? yet one on each side of the issue? 

 

Mafia tend to do this to not get linked too much together. Then you can just switch to the other train for consolidation. My only problem with this theory is it makes Verb/Despo not mafia. Oh well we will see what happens I guess.

 

I always find Amega scummy, so I am withholding any judgment until I see more from him. 

 

As for us both feeling that there is something real going on between your two teams, we're allowed to have the same opinion. How else do we, as a town, acheive a lynch if several people don't have the same opinion? 

 

I may have to change my opinion if you guys keep making something out of nothing. 

 

 

Underlined is terribad. Lily pretty much completely gives up any responsibility of a read on Amega, even tho there's already plenty of stuff Turin even pointed out about Thane/Amega.

 

Let me explain one more time.

Just because a situation looks like there's something going on. Doesn't mean both sides have to be a knowledgeable party.

For instance. If you unaware, buy stolen goods from a seller, the item will be confiscated from you and you may be fined. However you were completely innocent.

It's the interplay between both sides that are raising eyebrows and the fact that multiple people are pointing at it seems to make it less of an ambiguous fact.

To further expunge (the real word of the day) on my metaphor. Lily thinks that one of you bought stolen goods. She just thinks Despo was the seller. The roles are switched for amega between you and Despo. In congruence with his opinion.

 

Nope. Analogy still doesn't work. Your example shows what is on the surface an honest and open transaction: a trading of goods between buyer and merchant. That's not what we were dealing with here. Ithi/Turin and us should be unknowns for any townies, so the interaction between us should have been looked over to see what was up.

 

In that scenario, saying that "something" seemed to be going on in the situation CLEARLY implies it's the less thought of option, that there is collusion between the two hydras. Otherwise again, it's just an empty fluff post saying NOTHING.

 

Maybe I should change my wording from "something going on" to "something to see here." 

 

It's been my experience that someone who makes something out of any and every little point they can find, however miniscule, is usually scum. That's why I'm thinking maybe you (Ithi and Turin) may be the scum team in the something to see here. 

 

Jack, if you want to change our vote to Ithi and Turin, I'm agreeable. 

 

"something to see here" is still pretty much the same thing. You're still remarking about the situation like it might be something unusual, like a scum gambit maybe (alternatively you could have thought it might be a town gambit, but obviously this wasn't the case as you ended up fos'ing both of us)

 

And then you give your permission to Jack to vote IthiTurin lol. Why not just do so yourself? It's not like you have a voting restriction.

 

 

 

 

 

 

She thought her logic was apparent.

Another logical step would be to see someone perpetuating something I (lily in this instance because I get her and we share a qt and chat about this game on Skype) believed was apparent and cluttering the game. Cause who has the most to gain by furthering confusion?

Absolute tunnel vision on what you've said being totally apparently true - and no-one should disagree - is a bit silly in a mafia game, yes? Closing off a discussion because you're right because you are right makes no sense if Lily thinks I'm Town. I don't know if you are Town so I'm going to ask questions. You can keep denigrating and nullifying me though - obviously asking relevant questions is clutter.



well actually the memes and stuff are clutter ... but you don't seem to mind them so much.

And of course I'll chase a rabbit if I see one.


What do you think of Len popping up twice at funny moments?
And Tina?

You just want to keep explaining at me or maybe widen your parameters?

No questions are a good thing. Asking the same one and expecting a different result is einsteins definition of insanity lolz. Not saying it's coming just from you but from Turin as well. So from the same entity. I never said you shouldn't tunnel I was just explaining things that you didn't pick up to help you understand our way of thinking and seeing things

 

The way Jack handles Ithi here is awful. Buddies her, backtracks off what he said, doesn't explore the possibility of Ithi being scum or coming from a scummy angle.

 

Jack has had to damage control too much this game lol, and he ends up showing his colors when he does. It's like white-knighting and whyme fryme combined LAWLZ.

 

 

Leelou votes like mafia, therefore she is.

The worse Ithi looks the better it reflects oxn Lily in these past few pages.

God im tired. Initiation.

 

....

 

 

 

 

You seriously thought Ithi was looking bad the last few pages? She was obvtown coming in to damage control Turin, and was spreading around pressure like town!Ithi is best at. Lily otoh, was crumbling like past it's prime feta cheese.

 

Personal thoughts so far:

 

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) and YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal): had the feeling something was going on between the two of them. Their little struggle ceased (for the moment) and now there's interaction between WiFum and Evil Siblings. Most active hydra around, questioning, probing, getting information.

 

YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) expect to see more when the weekend is done. Interesting posts to read.

J-TAG (AJ, TG): not enough to form an opinion, null read.

PFG (Pralaya, BFG): Not a huge amount of posts, but the ones i read seem to be well thought of.

Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) lots of fun and games, but i'd like to have some real input for once. Backing Amega in the vote against them

Sexy Sisters (Tina, Leelou) Uncommented votes, absence? Not feeling too great about them. Waiting for a train to pass and jump on?

CRUNK (Monk, CoryCurren) not around, and if, then unserious posting, lurking in the shadows? Didn't have a good explanation from them on their vote. Might as well be waiting on the same train.

Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) not around enough to form an opinion, null read

Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) Little drama in the beginning of the game, then things calmed down. Maybe also because of the weekend.

Evil Siblings (Lily, Jack) Had a little thing going on between them and myself. Gett he feeling it was more probing and questioning than anything else. Questioning, after all, is good.

 

Straw Hats (Amega, Thane) I'm not going to comment on my own hydra. Yes, you are. NO, i'm NOT! *drowns inner voices in belgian beer*

HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) going for an easy lynch when voting against us i think.

 

This... "reads" list, is yeah you guessed it, turrible. It's a bunch of noncommittal fluff and "wanna see more" and NOTHING. Only "scumread" is Hallia for going for an easy lynch 

 

Why overstress your n00biness on the one hand and call people out for picking low hanging fruit at the same time?

 

this would be a lot easier without the hydra thing....

 

*gets the feeling he is being trapped into making classic n00b mistakes*

 

oh.. and.. are you going to make a meme for everything? 

 

Moar overplaying his newbness

 

(edited out a bunch of other stuff, this was final reads list at the end)

 

So now I'll try to make a reads list, hopefully better than some of my recent ones, although this game has been a bit all over the place and gameplay has been interrupted quite a bit more than usual IMO.

 

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - Very, very aggressive. Ithi is on her game while Turin is still on his "new meta". Seems he lets Ithi be Churchill the bulldog and he's more like.. France? Interesting dynamic between the two of them in terms of types of posting. Turin deferring to Ithi in some instances and if I had to guess she would be the one wearing the pants in this hydra. Ithi  playing her normal unforgiving game. Solid town read right now. Problem is if any team can have as solid a scum game as town game I would pick them with Despo/Verbal second. But right now I'm definitely going with Town.

 

YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - A bit quiet as of late, which between the two of them is very odd. Not really making a splash yet really, which I really find bizarre given the two of them. Weekend has killed most activity but these two are usually fairly more vocal and strong with their convictions. So far looks town to me but not very sure about them. Both of them will likely give us a lot more to work with come tomorrow.

 

J-TAG (AJ, TG) - AJ has been pretty quiet and TG, while relatively active, hasn't given much of substance. Null read here.

 

PFG (Pralaya, BFG) - BFG is much quieter this game than in a recent one. I'll attribute it to the weekend but if it doesn't change I'll look here. Pral is usually more in the fray of things too but again pretty absent. Going with a null read here thus far but this is a hydra to watch.

 

Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - RTL are (is?) town.

 

Sexy Sisters (Tina, Leelou) - Feels like the ladies are buying time after some not so pretty play. I feel like the strategy here is "If we don't post long enough people will forget the things we did that look really scummy". Not fond of the voting then poofing. Scum lean on these two. Should expect a lot more from these two and so far they've been holding out. Their next posts will be very telling.

 

CRUNK (Monk, CoryCurren) - These two confuse the hell out of me personally. Haven't played with either of them and can't make much of their posts. Don't remember anything  meaningful about their game thus far. Their bark is much bigger than their bite right now and if they are as great as they claim to be they need to put their money where their mouths are. Null read.

 

Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) - Really oddly quiet given who these two people are. Come back to the light guys. Null. Really need to hear more from these  guys.

 

Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - I have trouble reading Cloud because Cloud plays a very reactive game. Caught a lot of flak for how he reacted to the vote against him but that is his usual attitude. That being said, he hasn't looked great since either. Darthe is Darthe. What you see is what you get. And that isn't much at all. Scum lean right now.

 

Evil Siblings (Lily, Jack) - Lily is another one I struggle with. She didn't react great to Ithi pressure but I wouldn't have reacted very differently to be honest. Not sure what to make of Jack. Supposed to be some mafia pro but haven't really seen it yet. If anything I think the interaction with Ithi and Turin makes Lily town. She was frustrated rather than angry, and that's understandable when you're town with Ithi breathing down your neck. I'm going with a town read.

 

Straw Hats (Amega, Thane) - Haven't liked Amega's play really thus far. Not a lot of content behind his posts or his votes. Thane has given us a lot more to work with. His list is a little less decisive than I would have liked but it's tough with activity being what it is the last couple of days. His somewhat exclusive town lean on

 

PFG is interesting. Something to bear in mind if we get a flip on either of them. Only other hydra other than their own they seemed to believe was town. Going with a null read right now.

 

HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - I trusted Hallia too much last game and won't make the same mistake. She has been playing as usual but I don't like the absences. I agree with Thane that her vote was a fairly easy one. Eager to have X back and see what he has to say. And for Hallia to get back in here.

 

I just wanna point out what I personally thought was terrible about this post RTE, so that mebbe you could see why you caught flak for it.

 

Most of the time it's fluff or fencesitting or nothing, but usually the thing you bring up most often when saying why someone could be scum is that they have't been posting as much....

 

 

AND YOU'RE SAYING THIS ON THE WEEKEND. DM MAFIA WEEKEND.

 

In particular you calling out Krak/Dap for not posting more was particularly bizarre, since Krak will often be one of the less active posters and Dap will often get busy with school or work.

 

You also throw out the rote "We'll see about _____ as they post more" which just sounds like a noncommittal type answer scum love giving.

 

Your saving grace here is that your actual scum reads aren't terrible.

 

 

RTE's post was very fence sitting. I'll let Jack explain any thoughts he might want to share, but we both think RTE is scummy.

 

##voteRTL

 

Translation: We are both active on the QT but are not ready to post yet. Jack is going to come up with a better case on why we think RTE is scummy since I can't do it myself. Waiting for my teammates to deliberate before ever decide to give any reads. Will lurk now bye.

 

 

 

 

 

This was sooooo gross RTE. You call Lily/Jack town not long before this and then do one of those "Translation: JWIVIWBNSJVNOJW" posts which are lame and accomplish nothing. You're not making a point here, you're just reacting in a snooty way.

 

 

I hate the "Vote now and explain later/let someone else explain/I can't explain my change of vote/I want someone else to do it/don't ask me questions plz" attitude.

 

She didn't do that tho dude. She explained why she was voting you- your post was fence sittingy. And she was right. Whether or not you're scum because of that is up in the air, even tho I personally think you and Lenlo are more likely to be town atm.

 

But every time you post you're making Lenlo have to do more #damage control lol

 

 

Lol glad you caught that as well. Seems very scummy don't ya think?

That's not a term I use. Lazy players use it when they can't explain why they are doing the things they are doing. I always give a real reason.

 

 

FALSE.

 

The word means what it means. Sorry that it's somewhat offensive in your area, but all it is is shorthand for "antitown". Players use it when they don't want to have to say "mafia or third party or something that's not town" and say scum instead. Lazy players use it when they don't explain WHY something is scummy or someone is scum.

 

I use the word scum, AND I give reasons. Just sayin.

 

 

Leelou has problem getting on. Her internet isn´t working all the time. 

 

We had a short talk earlier. Our reads doesn´t match very good. Leelou´s vote on Wifom was based on Des´s case since she agreed with him. 

 

 

It is ironic that you vote for fencesitting but you are also doing kind of the same thing - a hydra fencesitting. You are trying to play it safe by saying that your reads doesn't match with each other, which opens up an option to vote either side the way the game swings. Essentially, this is the second time you have voted the leading train with the pretext of internal disagreement. 

 

 

One thing I will say in Pray's defense after earlier posts: I do like that he sort of follows up on his earlier read here. Could still be scum!Pray trying to look busy or redirect focus, but eh I'll give him some minor townie points here.

 

 

Lily, what do you think of Lenlo's large post? and of his play in general?

I know you asked lily. But I would like to give my opinion.

1. I just finished a game with Lenlo and he played the same and he was a survivor. I find survivors to be a pro town third party where a jester is more mafia third party. That being said he said he tried to win with the mafia. Lenlo does seem to have a very light personality in general so without having played much with him I'm considering his play to be Lenlo being Lenlo.

2. His post was mostly recaps. However anyone that had any interplay with verb and des he put pings on or slight pings. I do find that to be very very interesting.

 

 

 

So your first point is that Lenlo is playing like third party, but third party that town shouldn't pay attention to.

 

 

Yup, Jack pretty much just scum claimed. Then he says Lenlo is "being Lenlo" 

 

Then your second point is linking him with me and Verb and throwing out the famous scum "interesting" soft fos buzzword.

 

Ew.

 

Turin, you know perfectly well I didn't read his whole post. How could I know what his reasoning is?

 

This was that defensive post of Lily's I was referring to. Why not just read the freaking post? Turin asking Lily to get a better read on another player is bad... how? Plus... she even quoted the post before this to lazily analyze his reads. So she'll go through the trouble of quoting his post, and chopping it up a bunch. But won't read it. Riiiiight.

 

 

Confrontational Darthe is confrontational.

 

Still down for those dak pics? lol

 

I have a question for you Darthe. Could you explain your linking scenario a little more for me? You're voting Straw Hats, I believe... but also putting down RTE's reads post as a psy-scum tell.

 

Therefore you think Straw Hats is scum as well as RTL.

 

RTL is now voting Straw Hats.

 

Does this disrupt your scenario in any way?

 

How does me pointing out your statement towards RTE make me scum with Straw Hats (if they are scum) and RTL more likely to be town?

 

This is low level type of scumhunting. On D1, good scumhunters won't depend so strongly on associations, and are more likely to spread their vote around more without worrying who they might share a train with.

 

Not sure if this is fake scumhunting or not tho.

 

The Ithurin/Lilack back and forth is a bit tiring. Leaning town for WiFuM, judgement reserved for the Evil Sibs. I always read Jack as scum in the two games I've played with him, and he was town in both. Don't wanna repeat that Call of Cthulhu game lol 

 

I think Len redeemed his slot a bit with that catch-up post.

 

I don't find Amega/Thane overly scummy for any reason. Thane's post read more newbish to me, and I doubt he would be so freely joking around on thread if he had an internalized guilt. I actually liked Amega's post early on where he is pointing out Turin's instant scumread on Verbothera, which we can all expect as mandatory at this point.

 

Think Hallia's vote on Straw Hats was a bit scummy.

 

Clarthe is looking worse to me.

 

Not too sure about Krap (Spliffanity). I think Dap invests a little too much on reactions. Some players are more reactionary than others, it doesn't make them bad. I don't find it weird or suspect that Cloud asked for specific reasons since Leelou had put her vote on them multiple times.

 

Don't like how the #Yoloboys have dropped off the face of the game. Despo's entrance and early game buddying to Cory/Monk was pretty gross. Definitely not good vibes from their sort, I think they'll make the best lynch of all today.

 

Sort of suspect of the SS girls. Someone pointed out earlier (Jack maybe?) that their little dispute about who to vote allows them to play both sides of the fence. Leelou has reason for not being active but Tina's sniping post earlier gives me bad juju. I'd like to see more from her when/if she catches up and posts again.

 

Pral's game entrance gave me bad juju as well but I like how he is pushing the SS girls. He is usually an outlier when it comes to voting as town I have noticed, so I retract the early scum read. Would like to see more from BFG though, if she is town it will soon be apparent.

 

Not really much in this post I agreed with at all, but to respond to the underlined: AJ is sticking with something that happened like pg 4 or 5 of the game or something. He has repeated this same schtick over and over, and continues to believe that we "make the best lynch of all today" even tho he isn't actively pushing this read or case us or anything. Pretty much just saying everything else that has happened since page 5 aint really worth looking into, and that instead he should park his vote on us and say we make a good lynch because we were inactive on the weekend.

 

That my friends, is just HORRID. And like I said, he just pretty much repeats the same thing about us everytime he's challenged about his reads. Which is like to the "T" how you'd expect coasting scum to act.

 

FOS.

 

Are you implying that that's what we did? It's not. 

 

I can't speak for Jack, but I'm willing to switch to StrawHats to consolidate after they've had a chance to speak. They are at L-2 now. 

 

LOLOLOLOLOL @ Lily saying she'll "consolidate" on Strawhats 2 days before deadline

 

nyuk nyuk nyuk Lily's so funny

 

 

I'll comment on my partner's reads a bit, basically where I disagree.

 

I thought Amega's first post was gross.  A joke vote along with a justification for it?  I've had a scum read since then.  Thane's fence sitting post didn't tell me much since he is brand new.

 

Ithi looks scummy to me.  It more looks like she is running commentary than actual scumhunting.  But I like Turin's input so far so overall null on wifum.

 

Similar with the siblings.  Lily's tone doesn't look good but Jack has been reasonable and I have a town read on him. 

 

Only other place I don't agree is on the RTL as I didn't like Len's catchup post nearly as much as AJ did. 

 

Anything I don't comment on I agree with AJ

 

Bolded is   to me. Ithi for a while looked a lot cleaner than Turin imo. Turin started picking it up after a while, but Ithi came out with her town colors flying from the beginning pretty much.

 

 

 

 

[hazelkrs1]

Here's the remainder, not gonna spoiler it since it's not much

 

 

 

im not revealing anything at l2. im going to do a little reread to see if i cant find any better reads. ive come into this game in a bad state of mind and an unprompt situation with thane's noobness. So now that ive had a second id like to go and look back again.

 

So this comes at L-2...

 

im the tracker. slow your boat!

 

And this is minutes after Jack votes him. Such a ridic change in tone all of a sudden it's crazy. Makes it look completely unbelievable.

 

 

What do you mean? that they are being voted for doing things that indicated  they were likely mafia.  Are you saying that mafia is all over their lynch? 

 

Why is it amusing? are you saying they are an easy lynch? 

 

Well you currently still have your vote parked on verbathera. Which was a no reason given vote. Who would you prefer to lynch and why?

 

After reading I think a lot of what's 'scummy' about StrawHats isn't actually very scummy at all.

 

Yes I do feel like they would be an easy lynch, which is why it is amusing. It's so very DMafia^TM if you know what I mean lol

 

My vote is parked there for a reason and I have explained myself about it recently when I caught up. I would be fine seeing them swing today, nothing has changed that. I felt their grand entrance was overdone and Despo's immediate buddying of his #alliancebros felt scummy. Verb pinged as well about being the easy lynch because of the sign-up thread carry over junk.

 

So they made a big splash, some heads turned and now they have both gone quiet. That doesn't sit well with me.

 

See what I mean about just repeating the same stuff?

 

Also, why would me buddying my #alliancebros look suspicious? I mean... if they're my #alliancebros... isn't that exactly what you'd expect? Yeahhhhhhh pretty sure you're teh scum.

 

I agree with Turin, Darthe and Des - that claim and unvote from Jack really looks fake. I won´t move our vote. 

 

This is somewhat of a towntell for Tina here- plainly stating people she agrees with even tho she had suspected one or more of them at some point in the game. Makes her look like she doesn't care as much how her flip flopping might look and is being honest in this post.

 

Lol I pushed for a claim that he wasn't gunna give so I voted them because theyve been in our top 3 for scum all day. Plz check back.

He then gave the claim. I knew I was gunna be sleeping soon so I did the cautionary thing of signing of unvoting, taking a claimed investigative role from ninja hammer range and waiting to see what happened when people got playing today.

 

Lol really? That's what you're going with, that you didn't want a ninja hammer? Wolf please

 

 

No scummer I know of on DM would speedninja hammer a claimed investigative role, especially if they're not the main one being focused on or anything. Would literally give them away as obviously as ANY action in thread could. They'd be next day's lynch, easy.

 

So yeah, thaaaaanks (read that sarcastically) for preventing a ninja hammer here

 

[hazelkrs1]

Conclusion: Purdy strong scumreads on Strawhats, Evil Siblings, and J-TAG.

 

Town reads on WiFuM, RTL, Sexy Sistahs, HaXorZ.

 

Juries still out on Clarthe, Spliffanity, PFG, and Crunk. Prob feel best about PFG and Clarthe out of that crew, but meh.

 

I'm thinking now that we got a claim out of Thane/Amega, we set him aside since he's tied to the claim anyways. His days are numbered if he's scum, which I still think he is.

 

Since we still got a lot of time, Imma go with ##Vote Evil Sibs.

[hazelkrs1]

Here we go lynch Lily/Jack HERE WE GO!