[Advanced] Catching Fire mafia - Game over!

[Krakalakachkn]

If DM multiquoting and shit had a face, I'd punch it.

[nervositee]

Vote: Xthrax best target we have right now, as scum is lurking hard.

 

Do you think X is scum or not?

[Darthe]

@Krak, why are you getting voted?

 

@Amega, same q.

 

@everyone, why should we vote either or neither of these people?  

 

One line answer or I won't read it.

[monk2310]

 

Vote: Xthrax best target we have right now, as scum is lurking hard.

 

Do you think X is scum or not?

 

Yes.

[amegakure]

##Vote X

[Krakalakachkn]

I gave up on the WoT.  I refuse to post rainbows.

 

 

@Dap - You're grasping at straws trying to claim I defended Dice.

 

@Lenlo - I'm not going to apologize for voting your alleged mason partner and your previous vote and case on me looks as if it was simply OMGUS and nothing more.

 

 

@Krak, why are you getting voted?

 

Because I was bold enough to make a vote at the beginning of day.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I really don't like Amega's play between my vote on TG and now.  I'm not seeing a lot of sense or town play.  His interactions with myself and Pral just read as plain on ol' scum.

 

 

- Buddying me

- Misrepping me about calling Pral out for fishing

- Looking for reactions

- Vote on X with no reason

 

 

##Vote Amega

[Lenlo]

Vote: Xthrax best target we have right now, as scum is lurking hard.

Random. We have a single day yet your attempting to start a new train. Seriously?

 

  

##unvote Pral ##Vote X

 

I might have missed your reason for voting X but to me it looks like your jumping on hoping it will stop you from getting lynched.

 

 

@Krak, why are you getting voted?

 

@Amega, same q.

 

@everyone, why should we vote either or neither of these people?  

 

One line answer or I won't read it.

 

Seriously? Can't be bothered to go back and read it? I refuse to repeat it. It's a 25 page game. You can look back abit, it's not far.

 

 

 

@Lenlo - I'm not going to apologize for voting your alleged mason partner and your previous vote and case on me looks as if it was simply OMGUS and nothing more.

 

Never asked you to apologize. And you can explain why you think it's omgus in greater detail later. Till I see actual reasons for you to believe that I'm going to assume your simply trying to discredit it.

 

I'm perfectly willing to vote Amega or Krak. I feel one of them at least is scum. Dunno bout both but I'm feeling one of them is.

[amegakure]

##vote x

[Darthe]

Lens reaction sucked but was town. I seriously want peoples thought on it Len. I read the events, tyvm.

[Songstress]

I've finished a full read-through but I want to go back and focus a little more in depth on the people who I was least comfortable with after the first read.

 

Town leans:

Vos - not only the tracker claim, but also the fact that he was an early vote on Dice and was working to help achieve the lynch

Len & TG - I see no reason to doubt the mason claim at this point.  Plus Len hasn't dropped any of his scum tells that I've seen, and I usually annoy him by finding them

 

Null to possible town:

Pral - I've had a pretty good vibe from his posts, he seems to be trying to put together legit cases

Dap - Not sure I have a good feel for when he's fake casing or not but he's low on the suspect list right now, looks like he's trying but not "stretching"

Verb - Nebulous good feeling from his posts, nothing that i can put a finger on - will have to go back in more detail later

 

No clue:

Time

Hallia

Monk

 

Leaning scum - want to go back through in more detail to pull something more concrete together for them:

Amega

Xthrax

Krak

 

What is this I don't even:

Darthe

[Songstress]

Went back and ISO'd Amega, X and Krak.... all three of them have posts that stood out to me as possible scum.  What makes me most uncomfortable is that Krak is voting Amega, and Amega is voting X (and with my luck, if X was voting he'd be voting Krak just to vex me).  

 

I want to sleep on this for now and will come back to it in the morning when my brain is a bit fresher.

[nervositee]

##unvote Pral ##Vote X

 

 

 

##unvote Pral ##Vote X

 

 

That's all you have to say at this point?

 

 

 

##Vote X

 

 

##vote x

 

 

...what's going on?

[Pralaya]

...what's going on?

 

##unvote Amega ## vote Amega

[Darthe]

##Amega

[dapianoplay3r]

 

...what's going on?

 

##unvote Amega ## vote Amega

##unvote krak

##vote krak

[Verbal32]

Why are we unvoting and revoting the same person?  Is this bizarro world?

[michellem]

5. To vote, please type "##Vote President Snow", and bold it. You must ##unvote before placing a new vote. Color it if you feel like.

[nervositee]

Thing is, Amega voted X. But didn't say why. So I asked him. And his vote was counted. 

 

He has sinced posted his vote twice again... for no apparent reason. But never given any explanation. I don't know why. 

[Songstress]

Why are we unvoting and revoting the same person?  Is this bizarro world?

 

 

Thing is, Amega voted X. But didn't say why. So I asked him. And his vote was counted. 

 

He has sinced posted his vote twice again... for no apparent reason. But never given any explanation. I don't know why. 

 

 

If I had to guess, I'd say it's related to this:

 

The bell tolls once. Three screams echo.

 

 

Ever since I started reading along with this game I've been expecting one of the clock effects to be a silence.  Looks to me like Amega is only able to vote, and is trying to emphasize that by revoting the same person even though it was counted.

 

There are a few others who have posted only votes with no other explanation since the one o'clock bell as well - brb.

[Verbal32]

 

Why are we unvoting and revoting the same person?  Is this bizarro world?

 

 

Thing is, Amega voted X. But didn't say why. So I asked him. And his vote was counted. 

 

He has sinced posted his vote twice again... for no apparent reason. But never given any explanation. I don't know why. 

 

 

If I had to guess, I'd say it's related to this:

 

The bell tolls once. Three screams echo.

 

 

Ever since I started reading along with this game I've been expecting one of the clock effects to be a silence.  Looks to me like Amega is only able to vote, and is trying to emphasize that by revoting the same person even though it was counted.

 

There are a few others who have posted only votes with no other explanation since the one o'clock bell as well - brb.

 

 

Ahh.  This is a very good call out, thanks.

[Songstress]

The bell tolls once. Three screams echo.

 

 

##unvote Pral ##Vote X

 

 

##Vote X

 

 

##vote x

 

 

 

...what's going on?

 

##unvote Amega ## vote Amega

 

 

 

 

 

...what's going on?

##unvote Amega ## vote Amega

##unvote krak

##vote krak

 

 

Monk and Darthe also voted with no explanation, but both have posted other things since the bell.

[Verbal32]

Nice catch.

[Songstress]

Nice catch.

 

*curtseys*

[nervositee]

 

Why are we unvoting and revoting the same person?  Is this bizarro world?

 

 

Thing is, Amega voted X. But didn't say why. So I asked him. And his vote was counted. 

 

He has sinced posted his vote twice again... for no apparent reason. But never given any explanation. I don't know why. 

 

 

If I had to guess, I'd say it's related to this:

 

The bell tolls once. Three screams echo.

 

 

Ever since I started reading along with this game I've been expecting one of the clock effects to be a silence.  Looks to me like Amega is only able to vote, and is trying to emphasize that by revoting the same person even though it was counted.

 

There are a few others who have posted only votes with no other explanation since the one o'clock bell as well - brb.

 

 

Clever you are! 

[Songstress]

OK, scanning back through my notes from last night on Amega, X and Krak.
 
Since it looks like Amega can't defend himself at this point, I'm not interested in voting him today - many of the things I found reading through his ISO that pinged me don't necessarily indicate he is mafia, but stuck out as strange and I think he deserves the chance to respond in case I'm reading him wrong.  I've only played one complete game with him that i recall, and we were mafia together in that one - so I can't rely on meta to give me a good gut read here.   After day ends I'll take the time to go through and post a proper case and let him respond to see if he can ease my mind here.
 
X has been very inactive and hasn't contributed anything of note at this point - if I had to guess I'd say he probably is the one Mish and Des are looking for a replacement for.  My summary of his ISO:
 
* Says Hello
* Chimes in on book info with clock wedges, notes gamemakers spun the clock when tributes started to figure out the setup
* Tries to clarify who was affected by the first two wedges, asks for clarification if they can say what the effect is before it has passed
* Apologizes for inactivity - busy with school, will post as he can catch up
* Fence sitting on Darthe's "scum claim"
* Questions Darthe on why figuring out whether a scum claim is a town tell or a mafia tell is of benefit to town.
* States he doesn't think Csarmi's past town claims have derailed games, while Darthe's scum claim did, asks Darthe what he would have done if someone else had claimed scum.  States Csarmi's reads list is built on inconsequential things
* Asks Csarmi to clarify length of his double vote effect
* Suggests Csarmi's reads list should have more null reads... asks Csarmi if he dislikes Verbal nudging his scumminess because he has "hit the mark"
* Agrees with Verb that Vos's counterclaim to Dice is how to jumpstart a lagging day phase
* Apologizes for missing day deadline, misunderstood when it would be
* Wishes Verb to get well soon
 
There isn't much at all here, but what there is really doesn't look good - especially his interactions with Csarmi.
 
Krak has posted a good amount of fluff, but there were a few things that struck me as off:
* Here, his rationale for voting Csarmi struck me as a stretch - Csarmi pointed out that within the quote that he didn't believe Darthe had actually claimed anything, and later reaffirmed it, but Krak didn't remove his vote from Csarmi.  He was absent at the end of day phase with no comment or explanation.  

* Here, his after-the-fact explanation of his change of opinion on Csarmi comes across as a bit... convenient.

* Not fond of the aggressive tone of this post - the "alleged mason partner" and the OMGUS accusation directed at Len strike me as over the top.  I get that he's frustrated at DM not being cooperative with the attempted WoT, but... meh.

 

As it also appears Krak may have been affected by the one o'clock wedge I'm also hesitant to vote him without a chance to defend or claim, although I'd prefer him to Amega at this point since he has already had a small chance to respond to why he was being voted.

 

Of the three, Xthrax looks the worst IMO.

 

##Vote Xthrax