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Darthe Spam Master

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Would also be happy woth a Vos lynch.  Dat defending mate.  Also, if Err flips mafia then Des is really going to go down in my eyes.  I see this as a grand lynch.

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hazelkrs1 Spam Master

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Meh Vote Err. Looks like my theory about Err's train taking off so fast cause TG might be scum is bunk, and he was lookin kinda dirty before anyways.

Xthrax Experienced

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  On 1/28/2014 at 3:43 PM, nervositee said:

 

1. Andrej - Active scum-hunter. From the re-read I don't blame him as much for jumping me like that. When he started prodding on my jokes I should have outright explained them instead of dragging it further. Carries on scum hunting, being reasonable and active. Def. town-read. 

2. Tina -  Gets dragged into mine and GE's back-and-forth keeping calm and reasonable. Do feel slightly paranoid of buddying though, and keeping it in the back of my head, but for now I read it as more "common foe" than anything. Leaning town

3. Basel - I think Basel is the most scummy out of the bunch right now. Has been coasting on the side-line, only joining to throw himself on the Theo-train with a weak semantics-reason. Makes a half-hearted defense of said vote, then consolidate-votes Err, without any reason other than that his mention of a GF might have been a scum-slip (quote is at the bottom of this read for easy reference). Fine, but then less than an hour after day breaks, he jumps right back and restarts the train, again failing to produce more of a reason for it. Smells extremely scummy. My choice for a D2 lynch as it stands now. 

4. Darthe - Miller? Not contributed very much. Def. a backup idea for a D2-lynch. Very strange quick vote on Err D2. Why the hurry?

5. Yates WolfbrotherKronos Luciena - Yates didn't post, Wolf made a good list but with the fact that he has been asked to be replaced to I'll just let it stand at null. Crossing my fingers Luciena will stay :P

6. nervositee

7. Xthrax - Seems reasonable. Still I think he is playing a very very good game, while still asking some suspiciously simple questions like how many scum there would be (which has been discussed earlier in the thread). Could very much be trying to look innocent while not. Hoping to see more posting from you today. 

8. Krakalakachkn - Tank, Vanilla Town - Killed N1

9. Theodora - Got a lot of heat for pointing out my play but not voting. Made a reasonable argument for it.

10. Err - Has played a kinda strange game. I find myself wishing I had some meta on him. He claims that he is always about game mechanics early on, and in that case his guess with the GF might have been a shot in the dark. He has also been very absent even though he has been in the line of fire, but there are to many explanations for that to warrant a read. Null-read.  

11. Tglems - Dozer, Vanilla Town - Lynched D1

12. Despothera - Having a hard time figuring him out. I think he makes some strange statements and vote on Tina. But I'm open to the fact that he is immune to the frustration of dealing with GE, and this can all be a collide in play styles. 

13. Goldeneyes - Feels like he is playing extremely anti-town, but with a miller and possibly a GF (if we should belive Err made a slip) there isn't any grounds to doubt his claim. Town cop. 

 

 

 

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  On 1/27/2014 at 9:00 AM, TinaHel said:

Basel, there have been a lot of discussion but you choose to not comment on any of it. Why?

I had a vote I was comfortable with and I felt satisfied with where I was. That being said, DL is creeping on us and we need to consolidate. So I'm gonna unvote, vote Err. I think he was trying to divert us all into a discussion of setup, and it looked like he gave away too much info that he wouldn't know if town.

 

 

 

 

 

Yep, I'm reasonable guy. :cool:  :laugh:  Actually those were real doubts on the the number of scum. This is my first game, so I really didn't know the total ratio of town:scum. Anyway got it cleared on googling about it.

 

I dunno about the Err train-still not convinced. He could be the days lynch but in any case we have Darthe as a back up. Err really hasn't done any defending of himself while being targeted. He could've claimed like Golden or TG did-but the delay could be due to RL.

 

About Basel, I agree with Vos. Has been on sideline with a somewhat lackluster reason for a vote. And I think the others maybe be going with it 'cause Err was the other option for lynch.

 

Tina seems good, just caught up b/w Vos and Golden. But her posts make sense and have solid reason so far.

 

Theo-still really not clear on where she's heading.

 

Vos seems to be back on track, making a post with what his opinions on everyone else are. Seems good and feels town.

 

Des seems to be spreading around pressure seeing if people crack. Nothing suspicious seems town.

 

As for the rest, Andrej seems actively scum hunting, Luciena hasn't posted, Golden has claimed cop.

Andrej Spam Master

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I don't have a lot of time atm cause I have to leave for school in about 5 minutes.

 

I think some pressure will be well served on Des today. He feels like he's holding back this game and I don't like the flip-flop on Err from fear-mongering the lynch yesterday to suddenly being good with it again today.

 

Beyond that I would be happy with an Err or Basel wagon also.

Darthe Spam Master

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  On 1/28/2014 at 4:49 PM, Despothera said:

Hehe nvm, Luci replaced Kronos, who replaced Yates. Fun. That slot is effed.

 

I hate to bring this up but that slot is more likely to be scum, just based on records of how quick replacements work.  

nervositee Community Regular

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  On 1/28/2014 at 5:22 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 4:49 PM, Despothera said:

Hehe nvm, Luci replaced Kronos, who replaced Yates. Fun. That slot is effed.

 

I hate to bring this up but that slot is more likely to be scum, just based on records of how quick replacements work.  

 

 

 

Well... the fact that Kronos was in a friggin' car accident does give him the benefit of the doubt, no? At least for today. 

Darthe Spam Master

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It does.  I hope he is well, but that isn't what I am talking about.  For some reason people who get replaced a lot just are mafia more often than town.  It could be that mods would rather see mafia being active or it could be that the slots are just more detrimental but it happens.  I don't intend to use it to incriminate the player or etc but I can't ignore a statistical fact that I am aware of.

Luciena Community Regular

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  On 1/28/2014 at 10:20 AM, nervositee said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 3:45 AM, Despothera said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 1:31 AM, nervositee said:

This is a bit beside the point, but I wanna throw out a theory I just had, just so it's out there. I don't expect (or want) this to color any voting before DL now, but to make my peace. So, possible scenario: Golden is scum together with Err and one more. They read the setup/possible roles posted, but they have no Godfather. So they chance there is no cop either. Err drops a suspicious post on that there is a Godfather (which would warrant a Cop in the game). Golden then claims cop (which they now assume will go unclaimed) and takes on a leading role for town, dodging a lynch on his scum-mate and steering the game in his direction, obscuring it behind an aggresive meta/playstyle. Risky but if there isn't a cop in the game they have a big chance of getting away with it. 

 

Again, this might be far fetched, but it's a possible solution. Just laying it out there to avoid town narrowing their lines of sight and missing something. 

 

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Back to now, I still think both these trains stink, but I think TGs smell worse. And I hate that 11 votes are cast, and now Err landed at 4 and TG landed at 6, and Golden claiming he will rather have a no-lynch. Unless two people come in the next half hour and change their votes it'll be TG or no-lynch. I still think a no-lynch is a really bad idea, so I'm ready to hammer TG. 

 

Oh, but TG, saying that me claiming Golden was more riled up than you is hardly buddying enough to warrant a scum-tell IMO, but ok. 

 

Italics is a pretty substantial ping to me, reads like you trying to sow seeds for a push on a lynch on a claimed cop later in the game. Def don't like this at all.

 

After it gets pointed out that Darthe's Miller claim throws a pretty big wrench into all of this, you just kinda laugh it off- Whoops! Right now your play overall this game feels a little bit like newbscum to me.

 

 

 

Laughed it off? I said "well, it miiiiight still be possible"(which it might), but still said that the Miller claimed punctured my theory so nvm. Not sure how you read that as just laughing it off. 

 

I also realized the theory was far-fetched enough it might ping to some, but I thought it was worth it just to throw it out there. I would of course not jump straight to lynching our cop! But if for example the miller claim ends up being a fake-claim it might be worth getting back to. 

 

Also, RIP TG, Welcome Luciena

 

 

Thank you Nervosite :)

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 11:31 AM, Xthrax said:

Krak is dead, damn. A night kill from mafia? Or in basic set ups such as this, would their be power roles that can kill someone?

 

Gonna read again too. Might be something that we missed.

 

Welcome Luciena!

Thanks Xthrax :)

 

 

Ello everyone. Just catching up now. Will post my thoughts later on.  

 

(Des.. I'm still hotter than you  :baalzamon: )

Basel Gill Spam Master

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  On 1/28/2014 at 3:05 PM, nervositee said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 12:24 PM, Theodora said:

Damn, Re-read must be done. We have to be very careful now, not to have another wrong shot.

 

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 12:02 PM, Basel Gill said:

I think I am gonna pick up where I left off. I still don't feel good about Err after that list. It just read too much like he knew just what the scum team had available.

 

Vote Err.

 

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 3:03 PM, Darthe said:

Yupp totally going err

 

Wow. People are EXTREMELY fast at the err-train now! Why so eager?

 

 

 

A. Your defense of Err is noted and filed away for safe-keeping.

2. I can't speak for everyone else. But I can speak for myself. I already noted (and you quoted it, in fact) that Err was engaging in setup talk. That's usually something that scum do. Divert town's attention away from scumhunting by getting them to discuss how the mod might have designed the game. Furthermore, I was voting Err at the end of the day, and I still think he is scum. Enough other people were voting him at the end of the day that it seems evident he will be a lynch that is not only helpful to town, but lynching him is actually something with a good chance of actually happening. (As opposed to placing my vote on an outlier, which does absolutely nothing to help town because it doesn't actually contribute to a lynch.) So why shouldn't I pick up where I left off?

Luciena Community Regular

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  On 1/28/2014 at 4:49 PM, Despothera said:

Hehe nvm, Luci replaced Kronos, who replaced Yates. Fun. That slot is effed.

 

Thanks for the vote of confidence Des, heh

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 5:22 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 4:49 PM, Despothera said:

Hehe nvm, Luci replaced Kronos, who replaced Yates. Fun. That slot is effed.

 

I hate to bring this up but that slot is more likely to be scum, just based on records of how quick replacements work.  

 

 

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 5:41 PM, Darthe said:

It does.  I hope he is well, but that isn't what I am talking about.  For some reason people who get replaced a lot just are mafia more often than town.  It could be that mods would rather see mafia being active or it could be that the slots are just more detrimental but it happens.  I don't intend to use it to incriminate the player or etc but I can't ignore a statistical fact that I am aware of.

 

Mister Darthe! We meet again! What are the odds?  :biggrin:

 

I love your pieces of wisdom, and have come to rely on them quite a lot. Which means, I probably should stop asking you for them lol

 

So far, everyone without fail looks scummy to me. 

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

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That right there, Luci, does nothing to assuage the suspicions befallen to your slot.

 

It's a common scum move to go "I dunno, EVERYONE looks scummy to me right now! #overwhelmedlolzors"

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

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  On 1/29/2014 at 1:22 AM, Basel Gill said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 12:12 AM, Luciena said:

So far, everyone without fail looks scummy to me.

You're a natural to this game.

 

 

Last 3 times I've seen someone literally use a line like this in mafia game, they were scum

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