[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia - Game Over

[Darthe]

^Are you saying that because Lily plays poorly that we should avoid calling her out for it and that you seriously don't see any tells in her play thus far?

[Darthe]

Excuse me, *consistently* poorly.  Without that word it doesn't make sense.

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Darthe (2) - Lily, Ishy

Tress (1) - AVM

Ishy (1) - Tress

AVM (1) - Darthe

Lily (1) - Peace

 

Not voting - Hallia, Key, Mish, Pral, Goldy, GF, Dice

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline - Tuesday 10 AM EST

[keyholder21]

It could have been.  What do you think of her various responses, or lack thereof, to my followups?

I don't see your reason for picking her apart.

 

 

@Pral - what makes you think it would be a trigger rather than a role?

 

 

Already mentioned in a reply to GE. Too quick to make an informative kill.

If it was mafia, he would be looking for a PR vibe to kill. 

If it is a 3rd party, again, you would be looking for a mafia or PR vibe to kill.

 

Getting the game kickstarted by killing is not believable.

The JN argument isn't strong either - none of them knows who to trap etc.

 

It could be a trigger or some other mechanic which I don;t have an idea about right now

 

Not actually what you said, and it wasn't in response to someone asking you about the trigger idea.

 

I don't see either reason (kickstart or JN) as unbelievable, actually. I see you supply a reason for why you don't think it's a JN player, but what's your reason for thinking getting the game kickstarted was not the reason? Was that not what happened?

[peacesells]

 

Ishy -- any thoughts on this minor Lily focus?

Peace and Darthe both tunnel her hardcore everytime they play with her. Sometimes, they even try to come up with a new reason for voting her.

 

 

Actually, I ignored her in Daps game and she ended up being a Survivor.  Go figure.

[peacesells]

 

I don't understand the reasoning behind shooting Des with little to no posts from him in-game. Several of you seem to think this is not unusual. Could you explain why it makes sense to do that and why it's not an unusual move? How is JN different from DM? 

 

This is an advanced game.  There is a good possibility, considering the timing of the kill, that the scum team may have a day shot.  If that is the case, killing Desp, early is a great move.  Since he really hasn't participated, there is very little info to grab from the kill. 

 

 

Apparently I need to say this twice.

[Pralaya]

But it was in the conversation leading to that.

 

Like I said, I believe in an informed kill rather than a rash kill. Wasting a kill just to kick start the game is what is unbelievable.

[Pralaya]

That was in reply to Key

[LilyElizabeth]

Did you just admit to a scumtell?

Yes. Yours.

[Darthe]

@Key, I find her early game to be worse off than the rest of you.  Thus, makes better sense for me to pursue.  

 

@Lily, scumtell?  

[Pralaya]

 

 

This is an advanced game. There is a good possibility, considering the timing of the kill, that the scum team may have a day shot. If that is the case, killing Desp, early is a great move. Since he really hasn't participated, there is very little info to grab from the kill.

 

 

I don't agree.

 

To be frank, scum would want to keep Des alive just for the wifom he creates. Also, there would be more opportune moments in the future. Like if he is voting someone, or if someone is voting him or if he is in a big debate with someone.

 

If at all this is a day kill, I think it would be from 3rd party. I believe it is not a day kill at all but some other mechanic.

[LilyElizabeth]

Yes, sticking up for me. It's minor, true, but the only time you've ever done it you were scum. Don't you read the thread? I already said this when I voted you.

 

I can easily explain why my game seems off. I usually pretty much lurk until I have an idea what's going on. I'm trying to force myself to change that. If my play looks forced, it is and that's why. 

[Darthe]

).) I called a null tell a null tell.  That isn't sticking up for you, it's being logically consistent.  

[LilyElizabeth]

We clearly see that differently.

 

 

I'll be out for most of the afternoon. Don't miss me too much. 

[John E. Kelley]

^Are you saying that because Lily plays poorly that we should avoid calling her out for it and that you seriously don't see any tells in her play thus far?

Lily play poorly? She'll play circles around you son.

[michellem]

Well you are doing better Lily; I like how vocal you're being here so far at least.

[dicetosser1]

something feels off to me about Lily in regards to the early stuff with Darthe but I cant put my finger on it.

 

As for Des it could just be a case of big game hunting. 

[Hallia]

I agree with you there Dice.  S'why I figured a DM'er was more likely.

[LilyElizabeth]

Well you are doing better Lily; I like how vocal you're being here so far at least.

 

Thanks, Mish

[John E. Kelley]

something feels off to me about Lily in regards to the early stuff with Darthe but I cant put my finger on it.

 

As for Des it could just be a case of big game hunting.

 

  

I agree with you there Dice.  S'why I figured a DM'er was more likely.

Two subtle nudgings of Lily's train without actual votes attached. Nice and scummy.

[LilyElizabeth]

Dice, you don't know me well enough to know if I seem off or not. Explain, please.

[Hallia]

O.o I consider Lilz a JN and a DM'er, didn't you play once or twice over there Lily?

[Hallia]

I only agreed with him for the second part.

[LilyElizabeth]

I play mostly over there, Hally. I'm only playing so much here because they are on a break. 

[peacesells]

something feels off to me about Lily in regards to the early stuff with Darthe but I cant put my finger on it.

 

As for Des it could just be a case of big game hunting. 

 

Most overused and wrongly used statement on DM.

 

It's not "big game hunting" when 90% of the players on DM are considered big game.