[Advanced] French Revolution Mafia - Day 3

[Basel Gill]

 

 

@ Peace. In the Epicmafia-link, it says

 

Every person starts the game with three pieces of bread.

Every PERSON. Not every townie. So, whichever allignment Basel has, he should have known about the famine.

 

 

Basil's  "slip" was before that link was posted.  So, your statement is wrong.

 

 

The baker role was on epic mafia before this game began. The role PM was an easy to figure out clue that there was a baker involved, and everyone in the game are in the same situation. Making comments about my RL situation is irrelevant. Therefore, it is your statement that is wrong, unless you somehow think I wouldn't know a baker situation when I see it, and then have the brains to look up the details of the baker role to get a better grip on how this game would work.

[peacesells]

 

 

 

@ Peace. In the Epicmafia-link, it says

 

Every person starts the game with three pieces of bread.

Every PERSON. Not every townie. So, whichever allignment Basel has, he should have known about the famine.

 

 

Basil's  "slip" was before that link was posted.  So, your statement is wrong.

 

 

The baker role was on epic mafia before this game began. The role PM was an easy to figure out clue that there was a baker involved, and everyone in the game are in the same situation. Making comments about my RL situation is irrelevant. Therefore, it is your statement that is wrong, unless you somehow think I wouldn't know a baker situation when I see it, and then have the brains to look up the details of the baker role to get a better grip on how this game would work.

 

 

I've made no comments about your RL.

 

I didn't look anything up myself after reading my role pm.  I've never heard of the baker role before.  I thought our MOD made this up to encourage more posting.  So, why assume you would look something up.   Your post looks like some thin reasoning.

[Thorum]

Peace

 

For keeping on pushing about this non-issue, hoping for a reveal. Which would ONLY be advantageous for mafia.

[Andrej]

Alright peeps, had a lot going on the past couple days with NYE and now my son having a cold. I'll catch-up and post in a bit.

[Andrej]

Is that what you're wearing? Cause the bow is more flattering.

 

But this tie really brings out my eyes.

 

Duh.

 

I'm on the toilet

 

lol

 

poop-posting is the best.

 

 

 

Moar gameplay please.

 

My vote on Basel wasn't a joke vote fyi. Does no one have anything to add on that besides Pray? Is... who was it Golden I believe... trying to chainsaw defend Basel with that vote on Pray? Or was that a continuation on the policy vote from recent games? Or a policy vote meant to be disguised as a joke vote?

 

Des, I think you've gotta be thinking of someone else besides Pral, since his only post so far is to joke vote someone who isn't even in this game. Perhaps you're thinking of Thorum, whose reply to you could be the very definition of dodgy.

 

 

 

My vote on Basel wasn't a joke vote fyi. Does no one have anything to add on that besides Pray?

Yes. I think your reasoning is weak. That is too easily explained as an in character joke and looks totally null.

 

 

That's kinda the whole point tho- if it was an in character joke, then that sort of implies that Basel could be an aristocrat, which is who I would assume the scum to be in a French Revolution themed game. Are you telling me you've never seen a mafioso joke about something related to their role or alignment early in the game? I see it all the time, especially with some DM vets. I'm not saying it's a crazy strong scumtell, but I think it's the best thing we got goin right now.

 

Thorum is too easy of a lynch most the time. I don't like to pressure him early as much in games cause he often seems to attract votes due to both off-the-wall play and language limitations. I agree that post wasn't good tho. I never like nudging posts.

 

I thought it was rather obvious it was a joke related not to the game, but to my RL.

 

 

As for Thorum...

 

Yeah Basel, that was not a smart thing to say.

 

As to my vote, I'll obviously vote Mish.

The vote on Mish is written like a joke vote. Except why is he making a joke vote when in his previous sentence, he says my post wasn't a smart thing to say? If he's going to start scumhunting, he shouldn't still be in joke vote stage. I kind of wonder if he's just including the bit about me as an opportunistic way to leave one foot in the bandwagon without actually hopping on board with a vote. In other words, a bit of fence-sitting. I don't like this at all.

 

Unvote. Vote Thorum.

 

 

I'm not following you here.

 

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with Basel complimenting Cindy's cooking, and trying to make a game joke out of it. 

 

Des seems to be playing normally for either alignment, beating the grass for anything interesting.

 

I don't like Thorum's play, but Des said he's an early easy lynch based on his game style. I seem to remember him getting lynched early when we used to play years ago. 

 

Right now, I don't see anywhere I want to put a serious vote

 

Unvote Ishy

 

Pretty fence-sitty.

 

FoS.

 

 

This dude talks about enjoying yummy food while the rest of us are starving. An obvious aristocrat. Let's cure him of his acute "still having his head on his shoulders-itis" with a nice hefty dose of mob justice.

 

Vote Basel.

 

Here was where I voted Basel for his comment about eating well.

 

MOD SPEAK

 

MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ASKING THIS BUT INCASE YOU HAVENT;

THIS IS A FAMINE BASED GAME. IT IS BASED AROUND THE ROLE KNOWN AS A BAKER.

 

THIS IS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE ON MAFIA WIKI, HOWEVER FAMINE STARTS IMMEDIATELY AND ONE OR TWO BALANCING MEASURES HAVE BEEN ADDED.

 

MAFIA WIKI BAKER:

http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Baker

 

From now onward, if you are inactive and posting less than the rules mandate you will lose a piece of bread to mould.

(So less than half the mods post count)

 

And here's where Dap clarified for everyone how the Baker worked. After this...

 

I'm heading out in a bit to start the NYE celebration. Not sure how booze is gonna sit on my oh-so empty stomach

 

Be safe everyone!

 

Bread plz.

 

 

Bread plz.

 

Please sir, I want some mooooore

 

 

*Checks everyone's pockets for crumbs*

 

A few peeps chimed in with "lol I r hungry too" posts. I'd guess at least one scum is hiding in that group. Silly aristocrats, trying to act like they're poor

 

Ooooh, reminds me of that Chuck Palahniuk short story about rich people "dressing down", ie acting like they're bums and stuff. From Haunted. Creepy stories in that book.

 

Anyways, back to what I was saying- AJ adding the sad face smiley to his hungry post could be scum trying to oversell the starving angle. Ishy's post seemed more null than anything tbh. Hallia is kinda referencing the wrong topic lol, as she quotes Oliver (post french revolution, during industrialization period). Lily's seems kinda null there too. So out of that group, AJ I think would be the best candidate for scum.

 

...

 

Top reads for scum: Golden, AJ, Basel, Yates.

 

 

You must be confused, my friend. I agree with you that people continuing to come in to chirp on their hunger looks a bit forced considering we know now that the Baker's bread is an important game mechanic. But your reasoning for suspecting me over the others is pretty bad. You're saying that because I posted a sad face afterwards that makes me more likely scum? C'mon dude... also, please reference my opening post of the game where I was the FIRST to mention the hunger, which immediately prompted your vote on Basel for our little exchange. You forgot about that already? See below. Couple that with your 'MOAR gameplay' posts which I have seen you do as scum makes me a little wary of you.

 

Idk about you guys, but I'm starving.

 

vote Basel

 

Sup bro

[Pralaya]

 

vote Darthe

 

 

Oh wait, he is not in the game !

 

That's the first joke I've ever heard from you bro. Worthy of a vote Pral,

I'm not sure I like it when you're happy 

 

 

*tap* *tap* Should I consider this a joke vote???

 

Anyway, you have played with me, what, 3 games? And you made up this meta? Try again :)

[Andrej]

Peace

 

For keeping on pushing about this non-issue, hoping for a reveal. Which would ONLY be advantageous for mafia.

 

What reveal?

 

And I really mean that: if the famine wasn't mentioned in your pm, and you're a townie: come out and say so.  It would make the basel-case kinda moot.

 

Speaking of reveals...

[Andrej]

Also, Peace looks a bit opportunistic for his Basel.

[Andrej]

Also, Peace looks a bit opportunistic for his Basel.

 

vote**

[Andrej]

Every face was grubby and gaunt, dark bags under the eyes and sunken cheeks. Even the children were starving. The royalty ate cake while the masses ate nothing. Bread was scarce, meat scarcer, and full stomachs did not exist for anyone outside of Versailles.

 

the haves celebrating their riches and the have-nots scrambling for food. 

 

I'd like to reference everyone back to the OP. Here it clearly states that only those OUTSIDE of Versailles are starving. It even mentions bread.

 

 

And I really mean that: if the famine wasn't mentioned in your pm, and you're a townie: come out and say so.  It would make the basel-case kinda moot.

 

That's just not gonna work.  Just creates wifom that some will want to test for test purposes only.

 

Nothing stated says the mod gave everyone bread in their role pm.  Why would you assume this?

 

Why are you providing defense for Basel? 

 

 

I agree with Peace here.

 

 

 

 

@ Peace. In the Epicmafia-link, it says

 

Every person starts the game with three pieces of bread.

Every PERSON. Not every townie. So, whichever allignment Basel has, he should have known about the famine.

 

 

Basil's  "slip" was before that link was posted.  So, your statement is wrong.

 

 

The baker role was on epic mafia before this game began. The role PM was an easy to figure out clue that there was a baker involved, and everyone in the game are in the same situation. Making comments about my RL situation is irrelevant. Therefore, it is your statement that is wrong, unless you somehow think I wouldn't know a baker situation when I see it, and then have the brains to look up the details of the baker role to get a better grip on how this game would work.

 

 

Your prior knowledge or recognition of the Baker role has nothing to do with it. The point was that I made an obvious reference to my role PM, which in theory other players with similar role PMs would recognize, and you didn't acknowledge it.

[Yates]

Yes you're right, I got Thorum and Pray mixed up when writing that post. So actually if anything it would look like Yates possibly chainsaw defending you by voting Thorum instead, altho it would technically make more sense in that scenario if he voted me instead. Unless, that is, he had knowledge of Thorum's meta and thought he'd be an easier lynch, which he could have gotten from a teammate. Makes the previous post I quoted of Yates moar interesting- he could be trying to put on an act like he knows nothing of Thorum's meta.

Occam's razor, dude. I voted the way I voted for exactly the reason I said I voted it. Bonus fail points for neglecting to note that I gave you an opportunity to provide said Thorum meta knowledge and you failed to do so. I was willing to accept that I may be wrong but I wasn't willing to accept your statement as "fact" without some sort of evidence.

 

Minus 1 Town point for fabricating "evidence."

Minus 1 Town point for potentially signaling a setup opportunity.

Minus 1 Bonus Town point for failing to support what should be a provable statement.

 

Of course, you'd only be scummy if a potential scum buddy "bought" this nonsense for some reason.

 

Oh darn... 

As others have stated...Thorum can phrase things in a strange way. I can see Yates point on him though.

 

 

My vote on Basel wasn't a joke vote fyi. Does no one have anything to add on that besides Pray?

Yes. I think your reasoning is weak. That is too easily explained as an in character joke and looks totally null.

 

Check out MY pony:

 

Yeah Basel, that was not a smart thing to say.

 

As to my vote, I'll obviously vote Mish.

Thanks for helping us out of RVS.

 

Vote: Thorum

 

This "me too" post wreaks of trying to fit in and scum pretending they know the Town Role PM. Guess what? You don't.

 

I also didn't mention it at the time but bonus scum points for cognitive dissonance. "That was a scummy thing to say, Basel. Oh well, vote Mish! Tee hee hee!" This should be our first lynch of 2014.

 

This could actually be a double chainsaw defense. Not only protecting Basil, but also providing a new target.

 

Do you realize how silly you two sound right now? If you were to lynch Basel or he was vigged and flipped scum? Then you could try pushing this weak theory. Right now, you are pushing an idea with no basis in game play or evidence. That's naughty.

 

Minus 3 Town points for "me too," "cognitive dissonance," and "theory" spec support.

 

FoS: Des and Peace

[LilyElizabeth]

 

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with Basel complimenting Cindy's cooking, and trying to make a game joke out of it. 

 

Des seems to be playing normally for either alignment, beating the grass for anything interesting.

 

I don't like Thorum's play, but Des said he's an early easy lynch based on his game style. I seem to remember him getting lynched early when we used to play years ago. 

 

Right now, I don't see anywhere I want to put a serious vote

 

Unvote Ishy

 

Pretty fence-sitty.

 

FoS.

 

 

You're right. It is. But it's only day 1 and I don't usually get my teeth into a game until after day two. I'm trying to express more of my thoughts (which are still very neutral) because of Dap's posting requirement. You're just going to have to deal with it. 

[LilyElizabeth]

I'm actually liking Peace's case on Basel. I don't think I've ever agreed with him before. At least, not for a long time. I'm going to see how this develops before voting. 

[michellem]

Apologies for my abscense; although I was not hungover yesterday, exhaustion from the last month came and kicked me in the ass and rendered me utterly useless. I gotta look over the last two pages again, as I've only skimmed them, but for now it feels more like town on town for me.

[Basel Gill]

 

 

 

 

@ Peace. In the Epicmafia-link, it says

 

Every person starts the game with three pieces of bread.

Every PERSON. Not every townie. So, whichever allignment Basel has, he should have known about the famine.

 

 

Basil's  "slip" was before that link was posted.  So, your statement is wrong.

 

 

The baker role was on epic mafia before this game began. The role PM was an easy to figure out clue that there was a baker involved, and everyone in the game are in the same situation. Making comments about my RL situation is irrelevant. Therefore, it is your statement that is wrong, unless you somehow think I wouldn't know a baker situation when I see it, and then have the brains to look up the details of the baker role to get a better grip on how this game would work.

 

 

I've made no comments about your RL.

 

I didn't look anything up myself after reading my role pm.  I've never heard of the baker role before.  I thought our MOD made this up to encourage more posting.  So, why assume you would look something up.   Your post looks like some thin reasoning.

 

 

 

I was actually trying to reply to Thorum, and quoted your post quoting him. I really need to be more careful posting first thing in the morning.

 

Also, Peace looks a bit opportunistic for his Basel.

 

 

:blink: I know that was a typo, but it still kinda freaks me out at the end of sentence.

 

Peace does look a bit opportunistic, but I'm more concerned over Thorum leaping to my defense like he has.

[Yates]

Do you realize how silly you two sound right now?

 

FoS: Des and Peace

I maintain the following: The only time looking heavily into associatives, team-tells, etc is a good idea is when you have flips you can cement those associatives to. Otherwise you might be lynching two townies for a perceived team-tell that doesn't actually exist just to find you've been chasing your tail for two day phases.

 

With that said; I'll remove 1/2 scum point if either of you can go back and give an example of scum Yates targeting the low hanging fruit [ie. building a wagon on Thorum b/c he's the "easy lynch"]. I have a lot of scum games on this site - more than I statistically should - so it should be easy enough.

 

I can't have this hanging around as a distraction for several pages so put up or shut up, as they say.

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Des (1) - Mish

Yates (1) - Hallia

Basel (2) - AJ, peace

Pral (1) - Golden

Golden (2) - Pral, Des

Thorum (2) - Yates, Basel

peace (1) - Thorum

 

 

Not Voting (5) - elf, wombat, GF, Lily, Ishy

 

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

No Deadline yet.

[GoldeneyesND]

Unvote

[peacesells]

 

Do you realize how silly you two sound right now?

 

FoS: Des and Peace

I maintain the following: The only time looking heavily into associatives, team-tells, etc is a good idea is when you have flips you can cement those associatives to. Otherwise you might be lynching two townies for a perceived team-tell that doesn't actually exist just to find you've been chasing your tail for two day phases.

 

With that said; I'll remove 1/2 scum point if either of you can go back and give an example of scum Yates targeting the low hanging fruit [ie. building a wagon on Thorum b/c he's the "easy lynch"]. I have a lot of scum games on this site - more than I statistically should - so it should be easy enough.

 

I can't have this hanging around as a distraction for several pages so put up or shut up, as they say.

 

Did I say you were?

[GoldeneyesND]

 

 

vote Darthe

 

 

Oh wait, he is not in the game !

 

That's the first joke I've ever heard from you bro. Worthy of a vote Pral,

I'm not sure I like it when you're happy 

 

 

*tap* *tap* Should I consider this a joke vote???

 

Anyway, you have played with me, what, 3 games? And you made up this meta? Try again :)

 

 

Haha. I already told Des it was. It was my way of admitting I tunneled on you last game unfairly.

[Yates]

Did I say you were?

Let's not split hairs - it was implied.

[Andrej]

GE - I love your new picture.

[GoldeneyesND]

Haha thanks. That might be my favorite movie character ever.

[Andrej]

Wait, it's not you?

 

I retract the compliment then.

[peacesells]

 

Did I say you were?

Let's not split hairs - it was implied.

 

 

It's not what I was implying.  I won't speak for Desp though.   I said exactly what I meant.