[Advanced] French Revolution Mafia - Day 3

[michellem]

Last page, at the very bottom. All colourful and stuff.

[GoldeneyesND]

Ish- there is absolutely no way for you to be certain she's town, typical Ishy cockiness. Please explain your reasoning, though I'm sure you'll refuse with some "witty" retort. We've now spent 2 pages off on this tangent. Keep applying pressure here, we've hit scum.

[John E. Kelley]

Can ishy be scum 6 games in a row?

Ishy...is your vote on Lily serious or your typical day 1 harem vote?

Quite serious.

[John E. Kelley]

And to answer your first question Peace, thankfully, no.

[michellem]

Ish- there is absolutely no way for you to be certain she's town, typical Ishy cockiness. Please explain your reasoning, though I'm sure you'll refuse with some "witty" retort. We've now spent 2 pages off on this tangent. Keep applying pressure here, we've hit scum.

 

How can you call it a tangent, if you think it's found mafia? Also, how about you sir comment on some specifics that's been going on since you last posted. Like my reply to your post. Or just anything. Because now it seems like you are posting just for the sake of looking like you're participating ;)

[John E. Kelley]

Ish- there is absolutely no way for you to be certain she's town, typical Ishy cockiness. Please explain your reasoning, though I'm sure you'll refuse with some "witty" retort. We've now spent 2 pages off on this tangent. Keep applying pressure here, we've hit scum.

Her response indicated that her role pm was identical to mine. There's my cockiness for you big guy. If you're still voting her, that means your pm is different. Wonder why that is. Scum.

[peacesells]

 

Ish- there is absolutely no way for you to be certain she's town, typical Ishy cockiness. Please explain your reasoning, though I'm sure you'll refuse with some "witty" retort. We've now spent 2 pages off on this tangent. Keep applying pressure here, we've hit scum.

Her response indicated that her role pm was identical to mine. There's my cockiness for you big guy. If you're still voting her, that means your pm is different. Wonder why that is. Scum.

I've already proven that to be a null tell ishy. The wiki article says everyone starts with 3.

[John E. Kelley]

 

 

Ish- there is absolutely no way for you to be certain she's town, typical Ishy cockiness. Please explain your reasoning, though I'm sure you'll refuse with some "witty" retort. We've now spent 2 pages off on this tangent. Keep applying pressure here, we've hit scum.

Her response indicated that her role pm was identical to mine. There's my cockiness for you big guy. If you're still voting her, that means your pm is different. Wonder why that is. Scum.

I've already proven that to be a null tell ishy. The wiki article says everyone starts with 3.

I saw that too. Call it a decision to trust her then if it makes it better for you.

[Andrej]

 

Golden hasn't been on to see what I (we) saw, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. AJ and Lily though, have.

 

Vote Lily.

 

What?

 

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Yates (1) - Hallia

Basel (1) - peace

Thorum (2) - Yates, Basel

Mish (3) - AJ, lily, golden

Elf (1) - Thorum

Lily (2) - Mish, Ishy

AJ (1) - des

 

Not Voting (4) - elf, wombat, GF, pral

 

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Deadline:http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140107T09&p0=22&msg=Day+1

 

A deadline is now in effect.

[John E. Kelley]

 

 

Golden hasn't been on to see what I (we) saw, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. AJ and Lily though, have.Vote Lily.

 

 

What?

You're still voting Mish. Obvscum.

[Yates]

You're still voting Mish. Obvscum.

So are Lily and Golden. Are they scum too?

[John E. Kelley]

 

You're still voting Mish. Obvscum.

So are Lily and Golden. Are they scum too?

Stop skimming. I'm voting Lily, and four or five posts ago I told GE I thought he was scum.

[Andrej]

Last page, at the very bottom. All colourful and stuff.

 

This one?

 

 

 

 

Nah I gotcha.

 

Not speaking for Mish, but I'd say Lily or Des.

In that case, now would probably be a good time to unvote, right? 

 

So which one is scummier?  I'm in confirmation bias mode on Des right now so I don't want to tunnel when he *could* be an asset if Town.

 

 

Maybe. The way she based her vote on me as if she was aware that Hallia was town still doesn't sit right, especially without any previous flips to make such an associative correlation. But if we're thinking the same thing here, it could have been a town slip. Then again, everyone's PM could say the same thing in regards to what I think you are referring to.

 

Out of the two I might lean more on Lily. Her early post where she unvoted Ishy was very neutral, which I quoted and she addressed. I didn't mention it at the time but she's also one of the last people I wanted to immediately join the wagon on Mish with me.

 

Despo is wily. A lot of his theories don't really add up in retrospect. The biggest one that stands out in my mind was him saying that I tried using the OP to gain town-cred, when later acknowledging that all players would be affected by the famine so therefore I would've known from my role PM regardless.

 

 

The green: Still going on about this even after I explained my reasons for the various scenarios (you town thus not knowing hallia's alignement, you mafia and hallia town, you both mafia) feels like trying to kick a dead horse.

 

The orange: Might just be me, but I read this as "Im not quite sure what you are talking about, but I'll play along to try and look townie".

 

The blue: He might be leaning more on Lily... But still keeps his vote on me. Also lol @ "I didn't mention it earlier". Exactly why didn't you want Lily specifically to join the train after you? Fluffy statement that means nothing.

 

The red: Des throws poop at everyone to see what sticks. He does this regardless of alignement, but it's more half-hearted when he's mafia. Feels pretty whole-hearted so far.

 

1. Your reasons are only good at face value. You say that you see it as me linking myself to a townie, I say that I see it as you slipping for calling me scum and Hallia town without any kind of flip to justify this. Dead horse or not, it's something I will keep in mind when I look at your play as I'm sure you will with me.

 

2. Yates was able to pick up on what I was getting at, as I was with him when he pointed it out originally. I easily understood that he was referring to your 'dead by D4' thing which was obvious to anyone with it in their role PM considering we were told we died when we ran out of bread and were given 3 pieces.

 

3. For Lily, I'm going to refer you back to my early post where I FoS'd her. Typically, I don't like people that I am suspect of joining a wagon I'm on. I also wasn't exactly thrilled with her post when she joined your wagon. It makes me second guess on the original person gaining votes.

 

4. Your opinion on him is subjective and applies to how you view his posts only. What do you think of him originally voting you btw? You never addressed this that I remember.

[Andrej]

 

 

You're still voting Mish. Obvscum.

So are Lily and Golden. Are they scum too?

Stop skimming. I'm voting Lily, and four or five posts ago I told GE I thought he was scum.

 

 

So you think myself, GE and Lily are all scum and all voting Mish?

 

Well damn, gave over boys and girls. Let's pack it up and go home.

[LilyElizabeth]

Lily, ok, fair enough. What are you thinking now after a few pages of back and forth?

 

I'm still watching, to be honest. I am very sympathetic to your illness and moodiness because of it, so I have to see past that. 

[GoldeneyesND]

 

Ish- there is absolutely no way for you to be certain she's town, typical Ishy cockiness. Please explain your reasoning, though I'm sure you'll refuse with some "witty" retort. We've now spent 2 pages off on this tangent. Keep applying pressure here, we've hit scum.

 

How can you call it a tangent, if you think it's found mafia? Also, how about you sir comment on some specifics that's been going on since you last posted. Like my reply to your post. Or just anything. Because now it seems like you are posting just for the sake of looking like you're participating ;)

 

I think the tangent of how many rolls people have is a tangent. You said 3, just like the wiki, then spiked the football like you'd scored some actual points. There's nothing else to discuss there. Your reply to my post was devoid of actionable content, if it had changed my mind about you I would have unvoted. Ishy's defense of you only makes me want to vote you more cause he came out of left field aggressively. Seems like you jumped on the QT and asked for some help. 

 

 

 

Ish- there is absolutely no way for you to be certain she's town, typical Ishy cockiness. Please explain your reasoning, though I'm sure you'll refuse with some "witty" retort. We've now spent 2 pages off on this tangent. Keep applying pressure here, we've hit scum.

Her response indicated that her role pm was identical to mine. There's my cockiness for you big guy. If you're still voting her, that means your pm is different. Wonder why that is. Scum.

I've already proven that to be a null tell ishy. The wiki article says everyone starts with 3.

 

^^ Don't dare make sense in the presence of the master, you must be cowed by his endless wit and 2 sentence answers.

 

 

 

 

Ish- there is absolutely no way for you to be certain she's town, typical Ishy cockiness. Please explain your reasoning, though I'm sure you'll refuse with some "witty" retort. We've now spent 2 pages off on this tangent. Keep applying pressure here, we've hit scum.

Her response indicated that her role pm was identical to mine. There's my cockiness for you big guy. If you're still voting her, that means your pm is different. Wonder why that is. Scum.

I've already proven that to be a null tell ishy. The wiki article says everyone starts with 3.

I saw that too. Call it a decision to trust her then if it makes it better for you.

 

 

Call it poor judgement. And if I'm wrong about her I'll self-vote.

[michellem]

AJ, Lily, Golden, I'll reply to you all in the morning, I'm heading to bed.

 

But I'll hold you to that self vote Golden

[LilyElizabeth]

Ishy, you make me sad. I hadn't figured out that all townies had the same amount of bread. I'm still not entirely convinced that's the case. 

[GoldeneyesND]

Mish/Ishy/Des - I've done all the work for you. Feel free to vote them in that order. You're welcome. 

[John E. Kelley]

Mish/Ishy/Des - I've done all the work for you. Feel free to vote them in that order. You're welcome.

 

Yeah, good luck with that Scummy McScummerson.

 

Game dies without me. And everyone knows it.

[Hallia]

I skipped the last 4 pages in order to say: I had the pleasure of driving a caregiver an hour north to a case, so I just got home LEMME EAT, YATEZIEZ!  I'm catching up over dinner.

[Yates]

Game dies without me. And everyone knows it.

Have we ever been in a mafia game together? I don't remember you. Like at all.

[John E. Kelley]

 

Game dies without me. And everyone knows it.

Have we ever been in a mafia game together? I don't remember you. Like at all.

Dunno. You don't make any kind of impression, so guess not.

 

And if you had played with me before, you'd know. Because badass.

[elffern]

Hey sorry for lateness, only done a quick skim, cus I have start getting ready for work soon, will catch up properly tonight

 

The fact that peace thought that the only the town could starve leans me towards town on him, I don't think peace would make a play for appearing town that complex based on a setup question, and if he was mafia he would know that they have bread too.

 

 

 

Elf is new

This would of been her 3rd game I believe

 

She is my mentee elsewhere but has disappeared there to

Wombat if also MIA if anyone has FB contact with him they have my permission to bump him

Second if were counting it that way

 

Also rum, can you explain you reasoning for voting me? It seems very much a distraction vote, to make it look like you are being town helpful, while being an easy out, as I would have been MKed for inactivity anyway?