[Advanced] Vacation Mafia! Day 7

[hazelkrs1]

 

I think if you play innocent any longer, OJ is gonna ask for your help in finding "the real killers"

[Pralaya]

Trigger alone is maybe not a good way to look at it. But combined with other information we have, i don;t think it is a problem to use it. 

[csarmi]

My reads FWIW. Not been into the game too much in the last couple of days sorry.

 

Csarmi: that's me :)

 

RTE: Well he must be scum, I see no way for the N2/N4 events to play out if he isn't.

 

Town reads:

 

Tina (her catchup posts, claim, usage of shots, analysis)

Pray (he's few posts while being inactive were good, ever since he picked up the game, he's been posting solid too)

Krak (I don't believe BG would have chosen to vote him D4 if he were his teammate, what for)

 

Conflicted reads:

 

Yates: I had a townish read on him, then he disappeared, not a clue anymore.

Despo: I dunno. I gotta go back and analyze. I'm leaning town but I could buy him being scum.

Darthe: Red has been... interesting while she posted, then she disappeared for a long time, Darthe's coming out weird and I dislike his "hinting", slight scum read

Key: been quite scummy, her last few days of posts are better, but she's just not posting enough in general, slight scum read

[keyholder21]

Moot now, but RTE definitely didn't say anything to change my mind, in fact, just made me more sure.  If the rest of you hadn't voted when I was asleep, I would have voted him too.  

 

I'm posting when I can CS.

 

I don't see a problem adding the analyzing of triggers along with everything else.  It would seem negligent, I think, not to.  Why not use every piece of information available?  I also don't see how it's against the spirit of the game.  We knew it was a trigger game from the Mod's post.  

[Kaylee]

Mod - is Yates still playing?

 

Yes-I've poked him in PM.

 

Now I'll update the VC

[Kaylee]

Final Vote Count

 

RTE (5): Darthe, Despo, Tina, Pral, Csarmi

Krak (1): RTE

 

Not voting(3): Yates, Key, Krak

 

That's a lynch, scene will be when I can...on my way up north.

 

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

 

Deadline is Friday Nov 8th 10pm MST http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=197&iso=20131108T22&year=2013&month=11&day=8&hour=22&min=0&sec=0&msg=Day%206

[Darthe]

Yeah if RTE flips scum then Salami is a ddfinite. I think he sacrificed himself to buy him another day.

[Kaylee]

"This guy is guilty, get him!" RTE looked at them like they were mad. "There's no way he's not guilty," came another shout. "You fools! I'm innocent! I'm here to help you! If you can't see that, you deserve to get killed." RTE said so matter of factly. They tied him up and tortured him in hopes that he'd give up who he was working with. When he didn't they killed him.

 

RTE, Even Night Doc, has been lynched.

 

It is now night. You have 24 hours from this post to get your NA'S in.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Ha.

[Niniel]

Really? I just don´t understand why you would play that way. Well, you can´t answer now so maybe I can ask you again after the game. 

[Darthe]

Oh, yes. Congrats RTE. You showed us.

[Krakalakachkn]

That's what I was worried about.

 

 

At least he can't be recruited. Nor anyone else.

[Darthe]

Yeah.

 

Oh and Tina my info was that I am a VT. I had hoped we would get some discussion but you are literally the only person to acknowledge it directly. Which is odd.

[Niniel]

Okay. 

 

Krak - I agree. It´s good to know that they don´t have the doc. That probably means that I blocked the right person? 

[Niniel]

Then maybe we only have the recruiter left? BG must have been recruited N2. N4 RTE protected himself so we probably didn´t have a recruit then. 

 

Lynch Csarmi tomorrow?

[Darthe]

Nooooo aaaaactivittyyyy

[hazelkrs1]

Do we think its more like just the inquisitor left plus a possible recruit, or two scum teams type of thing?

[Darthe]

Based on what we have seen its sort of blind conjecture. I find it odd how few kills have happened considering but its also strange that BGs flip told us about an inquozitor.

[hazelkrs1]

I got a new laptop tonight!

 

:biggrin:

[csarmi]

Okay. 

 

Krak - I agree. It´s good to know that they don´t have the doc. That probably means that I blocked the right person?

You didn't. But you only got my word for that. What do you make of N2, however?

 

Then maybe we only have the recruiter left? BG must have been recruited N2. N4 RTE protected himself so we probably didn´t have a recruit then. 

 

Lynch Csarmi tomorrow?

Who protected BG on N2? What happened on N0. Because RTE must have been telling the truth about his N0 protect. THat protect makes no sense unless there was something going on on N0 already.

 

But what? Cause RTE wasn't recruited and no kill took place.

 

This all just don't add up. I believe we're assuming too much. We should get back to scumhunting. Old-fashioned style, you know.

 

Do we think its more like just the inquisitor left plus a possible recruit, or two scum teams type of thing?

Given the amount of NK's during the game (we only had two NK's on N3, and Tina claimed the extra kill and we even had no NK twice), I wouldn't think there'd be two killing factions. Especially with all the town views and stuff.

[csarmi]

@Tina: I know I'm getting paranoid about this, but how exactly do we know that YOU weren't turned?

[hazelkrs1]

I didn't say two factions with killing abilities CS. I said two scum teams. Was that misspeak intentional?

 

If there were two factions, my guess would be the Inquisitor faction that can kill/recruit, and mebbe a plain 'ol mafia team. Just speculation tho.

 

Why would Tina have been recruited, unles by a diff mechanic than the Inquisitor thing CS?

 

You're looking more and more questionable.

[csarmi]

I didn't say two factions with killing abilities CS. I said two scum teams. Was that misspeak intentional?

I don't know, was that? I can't see what you mean here.

 

If there were two factions, my guess would be the Inquisitor faction that can kill/recruit, and mebbe a plain 'ol mafia team. Just speculation tho.

That's what I said I found unlikely, given the amount of kills (just low) and the amount of clears gotten from our cop.

 

Why would Tina have been recruited, unles by a diff mechanic than the Inquisitor thing CS?

Because I can't find a way to explain N2 and I can't find a way to explain N4 either with the mechanics we're assuming.

You could just assume I got blocked on N4, even though know I wasn't (there was nothing to block). But what to make of BG getting recruited. When and how? What's up with the lack of kill on N2? No one claims to have had a doc save for that night.

 

The only player who claims to have any kind of save in their repertoire is Tina. And no, I can't make sense of the actions even with the assumption she's lying either.

 

So that's why I think that maybe we should just forget about this recruiting thing (which don't seem to work) and get back to normal scumhunting stuff.

 

You're looking more and more questionable.

Of course I look more and more questionable. There are only 8 players left now and I wasn't cleared by anyone.

[hazelkrs1]

I should have been more specific: I meant a mafia team that didn't have a NK. Kinda like in Darthe's open setup game he recently ran, there was a Wolf team with a NK, and a Mafia team that was a bit bigger, but didn't have a NK.

 

Why should we stop talking about recruitment? We have a flip that guaranteed that there is a recruiting mechanic in the game, and you want us to stop talking about that?

 

[csarmi]

I should have been more specific: I meant a mafia team that didn't have a NK. Kinda like in Darthe's open setup game he recently ran, there was a Wolf team with a NK, and a Mafia team that was a bit bigger, but didn't have a NK.

Oh. An interesting idea, that didn't cross my mind. Such a team should be rather large tho.

 

Why should we stop talking about recruitment? We have a flip that guaranteed that there is a recruiting mechanic in the game, and you want us to stop talking about that?

 

We shouldn't. What I mean is that we obviously have quite incomplete information on that subject cause there's just no way to make sense of the actions with the current assumptions we're making. Thus, we should change the focus, you see.