[Advanced] Vacation Mafia! Day 7

bgrishinko · October 31, 2013

Krak you have a habit of telling us who you think should be lynched and is fully scum, then turning around and voting/pushing someone else.

hazelkrs1 · October 31, 2013

Be all that as it may, Des has spent a large part of this game focusing on Tress, and for him to not be on her lynch, while basing his vote on Red as mostly on gut, reads to me as scummy. combined with being on the first two town lynches and not Tress' reads to me as distancing, trying not to be seen on three town lynches in a row. I was also hoping for some input from others, but it seems back to where we were before - with the exception of Yates.

Eh this is actually somewhat well reasoned. You might be town after all.

What you saw was me falling behind in this game majorly. I can handle 4 games at once, what screwed me was my laptop going out of service. Once I fell behind, I faintly remembered thinking that Tress seemed scummy, but couldn't remember why as I was trying to keep up. Add to that that most of her responses and behavior towards her lynch seemed fairly townie, I really didn't see a point in throwing my vote on the pile and just tried going by gut. Still have to do an iso on Red, will do so after audit.

Gotta say tho, wouldn't trying to "distance" from being on a third straight townie lynch in a row kinda backfire, if I was initially supporting Tress' lynch but later declined to join it? That kind of behavior sticks out more so than bandwagoning.

Fwiw, I agree that Mish should give up her reads at some point soon. If none of her targets have died, then we'd have a much easier job using process of elimination to find scum. Especially since there are so many still out there, being that we haven't lynched one yet. Also think Mish should try and "townhunt" with her remaining opportunities to investigate as well, since there prob aren't many townies left that she hasn't viewed that are still alive.

hazelkrs1 · October 31, 2013

Wtf... stupid browser closed out for no freaking reason. I hate being on work comps!

:mad:

Anyways, before I do an iso on Red and show other stuff I might find in my reread, I thought I may as well take a look at some of the possibilities for peeps that set off triggers. Normally I don't like doing this, as it's just guessing at what triggers may be, and seems a bit cheap, but eh I figure town needs any help it can get right now.

First!!

And cool setup Kay.

Ishy was the first to post, and first to double post.

Ooooh! I love triggers game, and this time I'm getting one!

Maybe some coloured text?

Or a fake vote? Vote Ishy just because

Smileys!

Flattery? Kaylee is super awesome and this game looks like it'll be awesome!

First to say mafia?

Or town?

Ok I'm all out of ideas!

Mish tries pretty hard to set off a trigger. Looks like it worked?

Just for you Ish!

Hallia was the first to post a pic/image. And she did flip Doc after all...

What does a RTE desire?

Oiled up and semi-nude men.

Ishy is the first to quote someone.

Surprise me.

What does a RTE desire?

Oiled up and semi-nude men.

Only if it's Ishy,

RTE is second to quote someone, first to post a quote within a quote

Hello.

This game is getting weird already lol

dolphins

waves

ships

~~beaches~~

port starboard

decks

pool

buffet

slide

cabins

snorkeling

Andrej tries pretty hard to set off a trigger. Don't think the colors would have made a difference since Mish used a bunch, but mebbe one of the words or bold/underline/italics stuff. Def think he got one, in fact.

You guys better get ready, cause you're about to enter the DANGER ZONE!

[probably pg-13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7HkG6OSo3E

First to post a youtube/video link

Who's up for some dancing while we wait? I can ask the bands to play early.

Thought this could be something... Kaylee asks anyone if they want to dance

Oh yeah, lets dance !

And Pray is the first to post a gif, and a dancing gif at that.... yeahhhhh it's a stretch. /shrug

*Waiten. And waiten. And waiten some more.*

So Kaylee can you tell us if anyone has hit any trigger at all yet?

Yes, at least one has been hit. Not all of them have been though.

Kaylee confirms here that not all triggers have been hit

so what kinda drink budget do we have on this trip? whats a cruise and vacation without getting shit faced every night.

This is pretty interesting. I'll admit I paid a bit more attention to Red's first post in N0 since I'm going to do an ISO on her anyways, and wouldn't you know it she's actually the first to say the word "cruise". Figured someone else would have already said it by that point, but no she's the first.

Captain Stuebing, Issac and Gopher need to hurry the hell up and get this cruise underway.
They have time, no deadline as of yet. If they haven't checked in by Tuesday morning I'll like them. The game started on a weekend after all.

*Confiscates all the weapons and locks them up in the safe*

Can't have them falling in the wrong hands after all

And then not too long after Kaylee starts wrapping up the N0 stuff, doesn't mention triggers anymore. Didn't really see any other obvious examples of someone potentially hitting a trigger.

So that's Ishy (now CSarmi), Mish (already claimed Doc), Hallia (confirmed Doc), RTE, Krak, AJ, Pray, and Red. Of that group, I think CS, AJ, and Red are most likely to have hit a trigger.

Oh and inb4 someone tries scolding me for looking for triggers cause that could expose town PR's:

1. Two town PR's have already potentially been exposed

2. Whether I do this or not, scum can look as hard as they want to see which people could have hit triggers, and may have already been discussing this. I doubt I'm "doing their work for them"

3. As I mentioned, town is in need of something that can help us out. Time to go big or go home.

Okay, bout to start the reread.

hazelkrs1 · October 31, 2013

Okay, reread finished. Wasn't the MOST enlightening reread since we have yet to have a scum flip to assist us, but it did at least get my thoughts reorganized somewhat, and helped me remember stuff from earlier in the game.

Unfortunately, no iso-case on Red or wot for me today. Ran out of time, have far too many quotes and stuff. Got them all saved so if I feel it necessary I can go through and put them together later. As for Red's iso... eh. During the reread she still seemed somewhat questionable, but not as much as I would have hoped. In fact, one thing made me feel a little bit better about her: her going after AJ/GF. During the reread, he stood out a LOT. Thing is, we set ourselves up for a rough start because almost all the people fos'd and under the limelight day 1 we now know to be town. So the mafia team didn't have to do much manipulation or anything, they were probably content to nudge trains, bandwagon, and stick to the sidelines for the main part. This describes AJ's day 1 play to a T. He joined whatever bandwagon he could, with no reasoning ever given, and immediately unvoted after Hallia soft claimed, then later questioned Mish for not believing it (even tho there wasn't a claim to believe). Got quotes to back it up, will prob need to, but for now

Unvote, Vote GF

Oh yeah and something I wanted to mention bout GF was that he laid low for a while after replacing in, bandwagoning himself, but one thing that looked really bad was when he acted like he would offer himself up as a lynch if he was wrong about Tress. Townies just don't do that. If you're wrong, you're wrong. Offering himself up if he was wrong just looked like him trying to be meek about his reads.

Incidentally, I also kinda feel like GF might hide behind his... GFness sometimes. As in the fact that people have a hard time understanding him, and that he seems so... glib about it. Anyways.

The other person that really stood out to me during reread was Key. Subject to whyme fryme a bit at times, and has gone quiet at disconcerting times. Also wary of Ishy/CSarmi, he posted a lot of fluff early on before he got replaced, bandwagoned a ton without EVER giving reasons for his vote, yet tried to act affronted when called out for lurking, trying to point to a high post count even tho he never said anything of value. CS since he has come in has seemed to be constantly apologizing for not being caught up yet, and seems more amiable in general. For those who know CS's meta, this is a bad thing. He tends to buddy and mini-mod a lot more as scum, is more aggressive as town. But he's very good at posting filler cases, where he pretty much just quotes a bunch of stuff without really adding much to the game.

So right now my scum list looks something like:

AJ/GF

Key

Ishy/CS

Red

Got others but I kept waffling on my read of them. Will post more tonight.

michellem · October 31, 2013

Well I'll say this for now; all my views are still alive.

ReleaseTheEvil · October 31, 2013

And according to you are all town.

Your scum reads are incredibly important then.

csarmi · October 31, 2013

Three town views and all alive is a great news.

As I indicated earlier, I agree with Mish about only sharing them later in the day. I'll try to find some time for this game on the afternoon.

Depends on workload. The good news is that we have holidays tomorrow and I'll have some free time on my hand.

When is the deadline?

csarmi · October 31, 2013

It's very important that everyone posts their views, reasonings, reads before Mish posts her views by the way, for obvious reasons.

csarmi · October 31, 2013

Okay so some 40 hours left, I believe. That's good news.

ReleaseTheEvil · October 31, 2013

Will do this tonight, busy day at work.

michellem · October 31, 2013

It's very important that everyone posts their views, reasonings, reads before Mish posts her views by the way, for obvious reasons.

Yup, I'm waiting on this. I'll share my reads after everyone else has shared theirs. I'm not gonna allow the mafia to piggyback onto my reads.

keyholder21 · October 31, 2013

Going to look back through and report what I think in just moment.

Des, please explain where I have exhibited 'whyme fryme'. Also, I tend to 'get quiet' sometimes because I can really only play at work. I didn't think that was a big deal since I'm still contributing when I'm able. *shrugs*.

Kaylee · October 31, 2013

Official Vote Count

Krak (1): GF

Des (1): Krak

Mish (1): Yates

GF (1): Despo

Not Voting (8): Mish, Csarmi, Key, BG, Tina, Pral, RTE, Red

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline is Friday Nov 1st 9pm MST http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131101T2130&p0=197&msg=D4&csz=1

Kaylee · October 31, 2013

Tina will be replacing NotBob...she told me it'll be awhile till she can get to this as a head's up.

Niniel · October 31, 2013

Hi! I´m certainly Not Bob. :D

As Kaylee said, it will take me some time to read through the thread.

Krakalakachkn · October 31, 2013

@Des

No offense or anything, but you've hardly been on point this game - consider the whole voting Lenlo two days after he was lynched. I did think that your vote on Red might have been another, more telling, slip.

Scum reads at the moment:

In no order

Key

RTE

Des

Leaning scum

Yates

BGish

Leaning town

Red

NotBob/Tina

GF

CS

Town

Mish

Krak

Unsure

Pral

Niniel · October 31, 2013

Before I start reading, can someone please tell me who has claimed what.

csarmi · October 31, 2013

Hally (replaced by Dice) claimed odd night doc.

Mish claimed cop.

That should be all I think?

Krakalakachkn · October 31, 2013

Speaking of beer...just got these in. Utterly redonkulous.

keyholder21 · October 31, 2013

2. Mish – cop.

3. Yates - still isn’t offering much and is voting the cop. Despite me wanting to vote him for this, I don’t know how I feel about him. It’s scummy to vote the cop, but I am not getting anything else off of any of the rest of his posts.

4. ~~Ishy~~ replaced by Csarmi - CSarmi admitted to skimming and has been adding little to the game, other than asking others for or to explain their thoughts. Seemed like he was buddying up to Mish. Scum read.

5. Key – myself.

9. BG - BG still seemed elusive though he’s had more posts recently. Reading back through, however, I get a definitely sarcasm vibe heh, but seems townie, imo. He’s still giving opinions and pushing people, just in very short posts.

10. NotBob/Tina - Not enough for me to really get a feel. Imo, probably VT because he doesn’t seem to be paying a lot of attention to the game.

13. Pral – Same here as above. Not enough for me to really get a feel. Imo, probably VT because he doesn’t seem to be paying a lot of attention to the game.

14. Despo - Des, early on I had a scum read. Tunneling on Red, twisting things that she said, prodding her for a quote that he said was Aemon’s, but it obviously wasn’t. I think he tends to hide behind his WoTs. His latest post regarding backing off Red made me a little less sure of that, actually, but he could be backing off because he noticed he was tunneling. So leaning scum here.

15. Krak - A lot of ridiculousness in the beginning, perks up and finally begins to start playing day four. I was thinking scum in the beginning, but he’s had a few posts “today” to make me begin to doubt that. Leaning scum, but not as sure anymore.

16. RTE – still isn’t really playing. Keeps saying he’ll provide reads and then giving nothing. Scum read.

17. Red - I’d like Red to come back. I have a town read on her. She twists things around, yeah, but it gets helpful reactions. Plus maybe gut, but I feel like she’s town.

18. AJ replaced by GF- GF, are you still considering NB or did you consider him “let off the hook” when Tress flipped town? Any explanation as to why you are voting Krak? His posts don’t make much sense to me, even when asked for more explanation. Seems scummy, but it’s hard for me to get a read on him too because I don’t know his playstyle, so I’m on the fence but leaning scum. 2. Mish – cop.