[Basic] Die Hard for Mafia Game Thread

[Quibby]

Behold!  Moses has come down the mountain to deliver unto you the word of Mod!

 

No, not really.  Just had some time to actually read back on things.  Only have one point to make for now, though:

 

Darthe, was it just coincidence that you singled out the two people who said that they would have trouble being active right away?

[_CLOUD]

 

Kaylee, I don't believe Darthe has people written off.

Never said he did. I was just saying that sometimes you feel very sure of someone, not typically this early, and so you dismiss them as town. I was putting it out there that sometimes these feelings are wrong and that's good to keep in mind to find scum. (Ex. If felt Tress was on her town meta I might not watch her as closely.) I have since learned just because someone gives a town vibe doesn't mean they shouldn't still be looked at, just not first. I had completely written someone off as town and not a possibility until it was too late, thus losing the game. I was simply sharing this information is all. (Mostly because I was upset with myself for being fooled and mislead).

 

 

I agree with this and I also think that dismissing someone as town can be more damaging than being convinced that someone is mafia. 

 

Seeing as the game had just started, the excuse that you "forgot" to read them is very weak in my opinion.

So are you going to vote for him or not?

 

 

Everyone but Pral has checked in.

 

VOTE LENLO

 

I was given some pre-game information. 

 

Do you know that he is anti-town?

 

Checking in

 

Self-voting ! Trying to do something new or a subtle way of distancing himself?

 

vote Lenlo

 

I don't like this vote from Pral. He is voting for Lenlo because of his self-vote while he has already explained that it's just a joke vote. A self-vote is only scummy when someone is using it as an appeal to emotion, and I didn't see him using his vote like that at all. I also find it strange that you have ignored Peace's post regarding Lenlo where he claims that he has been given pre-game info that makes him suspect Lenlo. If you were really suspicious of Lenlo then why didn't consider this information? 

 

I want to hear more from Peace first, but I'm willing to move my vote to Pral.

[Pralaya]

I don't like this vote from Pral. He is voting for Lenlo because of his self-vote while he has already explained that it's just a joke vote. A self-vote is only scummy when someone is using it as an appeal to emotion, and I didn't see him using his vote like that at all. I also find it strange that you have ignored Peace's post regarding Lenlo where he claims that he has been given pre-game info that makes him suspect Lenlo. If you were really suspicious of Lenlo then why didn't consider this information? 

 

I want to hear more from Peace first, but I'm willing to move my vote to Pral.

 

I know that he claimed it is a joke vote but I am not ready to take it at face value. Anything which is odd definitely has something behind it. Especially at the start of Day 1. I have played with Lenlo before and his self-vote is odd and the reasoning that he missed the mod post is 

 

There is still a long way to go to end of Day 1. When Peace comes up with his reasons and the game goes on, opinions and suspicion changes. So far, the vote is based on what I feel.

[Kaylee]

I'm definitely curious as to Peace's information. I'd also like to know if the information said Leno is anti-town.

[Lenlo]

Everyone but Pral has checked in.

 

VOTE LENLO

 

I was given some pre-game information. 

Bull crap. This is a basic game Peace, there is absolutely no way you were given pre-game information.

 

Unvote vote Peace

[csarmi]

 

Checking in

 

Self-voting ! Trying to do something new or a subtle way of distancing himself?

 

vote Lenlo

This is an odd vote considering Peaces "reveal"

 

Why, what about Peace's reveal?

[dapianoplay3r]

 

 

Checking in

 

Self-voting ! Trying to do something new or a subtle way of distancing himself?

 

vote Lenlo

This is an odd vote considering Peaces "reveal"

 

Why, what about Peace's reveal?

 

cos he voted for Len but made no reference to the reveal at all

 

also in a basic game, pregame info isnt really a thing

Lens vote on peace now seems an overreaction. If you know it cant be true cos it's a basic game then why do you think peace did it Len?

[csarmi]

Kaylee's overcautious reaction to Peace's reveal pings.

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

Checking in

 

Self-voting ! Trying to do something new or a subtle way of distancing himself?

 

vote Lenlo

This is an odd vote considering Peaces "reveal"

 

Why, what about Peace's reveal?

 

cos he voted for Len but made no reference to the reveal at all

 

also in a basic game, pregame info isnt really a thing

Lens vote on peace now seems an overreaction. If you know it cant be true cos it's a basic game then why do you think peace did it Len?

 

Either because he made a stupid mistake, everyone does at some point, or hes trying to see who would be quick to jump on what looks to be an easy train. Either way him and Pral are at the top of my list. My voting him over Pral though was really just a first thing in the morning early reaction, your right. Pral is a much better lynch.

 

Unvote vote Pral

[Kaylee]

Kaylee's overcautious reaction to Peace's reveal pings.

Why shouldn't I be cautious? I wasn't going to rush to run someone up.

[Darthe]

@Quibby, nothing is random. But dap is so town here.

[csarmi]

 

Kaylee's overcautious reaction to Peace's reveal pings.

Why shouldn't I be cautious? I wasn't going to rush to run someone up.

 

Why not?

[csarmi]

Everyone but Pral has checked in.

 

VOTE LENLO

 

I was given some pre-game information. 

Odd.

 

Me too. I was given my role and my alignment.

[Pralaya]

Either because he made a stupid mistake, everyone does at some point, or hes trying to see who would be quick to jump on what looks to be an easy train. Either way him and Pral are at the top of my list. My voting him over Pral though was really just a first thing in the morning early reaction, your right. Pral is a much better lynch.

 

Unvote vote Pral

 

Well, there was neither a mistake (it was a clearly stated sentence, not a slip or something) nor was there a train (1 vote is not a train) when Peace made the statement. 

 

And, why am I a better lynch? Just because I find you suspicious?

[Lenlo]

 

Either because he made a stupid mistake, everyone does at some point, or hes trying to see who would be quick to jump on what looks to be an easy train. Either way him and Pral are at the top of my list. My voting him over Pral though was really just a first thing in the morning early reaction, your right. Pral is a much better lynch.

 

Unvote vote Pral

 

Well, there was neither a mistake (it was a clearly stated sentence, not a slip or something) nor was there a train (1 vote is not a train) when Peace made the statement. 

 

And, why am I a better lynch? Just because I find you suspicious?

 

If i wasnt a mistake then he is outright lying and its not a train because people arent stupid enough to believe he got information pre game in a basic game.

Checking in

 

Self-voting ! Trying to do something new or a subtle way of distancing himself?

 

vote Lenlo

And you dont find me suspicious, your picking out a joke vote that wasnt even counted because you cant self vote. What could I possibly be distancing myself from btw? Am I distancing myself from myself? No you dont find me suspicious, you just waited until someone else posted something that you could follow up with in the hopes it would start a train.

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

 

Darthe(1): Csarmi

 

Lenlo(3): NotBob, Peace, Pral

 

Notbob(1): Darthe

 

Peace(1): Cloud

 

Pralaya(1): Lenlo 

 

 

Not Voting: Luci, Quibby, Kaylee, Dice, Dap

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.  A deadline has been set for Friday, Sept. 20th at 7pm PST.

 

[Pralaya]

And you dont find me suspicious, your picking out a joke vote that wasnt even counted because you cant self vote. What could I possibly be distancing myself from btw? Am I distancing myself from myself? No you dont find me suspicious, you just waited until someone else posted something that you could follow up with in the hopes it would start a train.

 

You are trying to distance from the perception that you are scum - making a silly move, acting not serious. And, that is why I find you suspicious. 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

Everyone but Pral has checked in.

 

VOTE LENLO

 

I was given some pre-game information. 

Odd.

 

Me too. I was given my role and my alignment.

 

 

I thought you usually waited till Day 1 was over to check your PM.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

Either because he made a stupid mistake, everyone does at some point, or hes trying to see who would be quick to jump on what looks to be an easy train. Either way him and Pral are at the top of my list. My voting him over Pral though was really just a first thing in the morning early reaction, your right. Pral is a much better lynch.

 

Unvote vote Pral

 

Well, there was neither a mistake (it was a clearly stated sentence, not a slip or something) nor was there a train (1 vote is not a train) when Peace made the statement. 

 

And, why am I a better lynch? Just because I find you suspicious?

 

If i wasnt a mistake then he is outright lying and its not a train because people arent stupid enough to believe he got information pre game in a basic game.

Checking in

 

Self-voting ! Trying to do something new or a subtle way of distancing himself?

 

vote Lenlo

And you dont find me suspicious, your picking out a joke vote that wasnt even counted because you cant self vote. What could I possibly be distancing myself from btw? Am I distancing myself from myself? No you dont find me suspicious, you just waited until someone else posted something that you could follow up with in the hopes it would start a train.

 

 

For me, I'm just in the habit of voting anyone who self votes, even if it's in the early stages.

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

Either because he made a stupid mistake, everyone does at some point, or hes trying to see who would be quick to jump on what looks to be an easy train. Either way him and Pral are at the top of my list. My voting him over Pral though was really just a first thing in the morning early reaction, your right. Pral is a much better lynch.

 

Unvote vote Pral

 

Well, there was neither a mistake (it was a clearly stated sentence, not a slip or something) nor was there a train (1 vote is not a train) when Peace made the statement. 

 

And, why am I a better lynch? Just because I find you suspicious?

 

If i wasnt a mistake then he is outright lying and its not a train because people arent stupid enough to believe he got information pre game in a basic game.

Checking in

 

Self-voting ! Trying to do something new or a subtle way of distancing himself?

 

vote Lenlo

And you dont find me suspicious, your picking out a joke vote that wasnt even counted because you cant self vote. What could I possibly be distancing myself from btw? Am I distancing myself from myself? No you dont find me suspicious, you just waited until someone else posted something that you could follow up with in the hopes it would start a train.

 

 

For me, I'm just in the habit of voting anyone who self votes, even if it's in the early stages.

 

See yours I can atleast understand because your being flat out honest about it and not trying to sugar coat it.

 

 

And you dont find me suspicious, your picking out a joke vote that wasnt even counted because you cant self vote. What could I possibly be distancing myself from btw? Am I distancing myself from myself? No you dont find me suspicious, you just waited until someone else posted something that you could follow up with in the hopes it would start a train.

 

You are trying to distance from the perception that you are scum - making a silly move, acting not serious. And, that is why I find you suspicious. 

 

You are stretching to find things to justify your vote.

[Luciena]

To answer Cloud's question, I am not voting Lenlo as I don't see much information. It might have been an honest mistake, but then again it might not have. I reserve judgement until I find something that keeps my attention. So far Kayelee is getting a bit defensive.

 

 

@Quibby, nothing is random. But dap is so town here.

 

Would you care to elaborate on how you came to that conclusion?

[Quibby]

@Quibby, nothing is random. But dap is so town here.

 

Thanks for the confirmation on that.  Remind me to pick your brain about this after the game.  It looks interesting.

 

 

 

Kaylee's overcautious reaction to Peace's reveal pings.

Why shouldn't I be cautious? I wasn't going to rush to run someone up.

 

Why not?

 

 

Why not rush to lynch somebody?  With our first deadline on Friday?  Do you really think there's been enough evidence to justify rushing a lynch yet?  Call me a skeptic, but I haven't seen enough just yet.

[csarmi]

I agree that we haven't seen enough just yet. But that doesn't mean people can't be run up. It also doesn't mean that "cautious" play is warranted.

[Darthe]

Okau, seen enough of this to bite.

 

unvote vote salami

[Kaylee]

People can be run up, but rushing gives little information. This early with little to no reason rushing a lynch would not be in the interest of town.