Greek Mythology: Man Vs. Gods [Advanced] - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS!

[dicetosser1]

thats it Bas?  no thoughts or defence?

 

@despo  no not atlas and no im not saying. I refuse to provide mafia with fakeclaims

[Niniel]

Ehm, we are not allowed to claim anyway... 

 

I agree though - Basel, is that all?

[Basel Gill]

Ehm, we are not allowed to claim anyway... 

 

I agree though - Basel, is that all?

thats it Bas?  no thoughts or defence?

 

@despo  no not atlas and no im not saying. I refuse to provide mafia with fakeclaims

I gave my thoughts on why I suspect Des and Rory already. And since I can't give my character, I've pretty much said all I can say. I just don't want my death to be in vain.

[WWWwombat]

I think you need to brush up on your Greek mythology, Despo.  There are plenty of Titans who weren't tyrants.

 

And there were plenty of Olympians who were.

 

 

Unless you already knew that and you're just Prometheus-fishing.  This is going beyond regular Despo scumminess.  Feels like you might be forcing your meta.

[hazelkrs1]

@despo  no not atlas and no im not saying. I refuse to provide mafia with fakeclaims

 

Character claims aren't allowed...

 

I gave my thoughts on why I suspect Des and Rory already. And since I can't give my character, I've pretty much said all I can say. I just don't want my death to be in vain.

 

Character claims are disallowed, but role claims are still viable. Furthermore, you can give your thoughts on other players besides just me and Pral. You're wrong about me, and I'm not sure about Pral but he isn't very visible anymore anyways. What about some of the other players in the game? If you're town, this is the kind of stuff you could be putting out there. Otherwise, you just look like scum laying down for their own lynch.

 

I think you need to brush up on your Greek mythology, Despo.  There are plenty of Titans who weren't tyrants.

 

And there were plenty of Olympians who were.

 

 

Unless you already knew that and you're just Prometheus-fishing.  This is going beyond regular Despo scumminess.  Feels like you might be forcing your meta.

 

Oh I more than agree with you that there were Olympians who were complete dicks, and weren't exactly showered with praise by the Greeks. But overall they were venerated for the most part. The Titans role in stories is to constantly battle with the Olympians for power, and the deeds with which they carried out some of their plans were pretty effed up indeed. Deceiving, then dismembering and cannibalizing an infant Dionysus? The joint castration of their father Uranus? Heck, even a lot of those who allied with the Olympians did some pretty awful stuff even after they "switched sides" like Hecate. There are a few who are described as neutral in the Hellenic tradition, and then those same ones will be ascribed to the worst stuff in the Thracian traditions.

 

Basically the only two that were actually favorable towards men were Prometheus and Epimetheus. I agree that Prometheus would likely be town, but I don't think Epimetheus would be, since he is partially responsible for pretty much the entirety of suffering released upon the world of men (Pandora's Box).

 

So yeah, I'm gonna be pretty skeptical about anyone claiming a Titan and claiming to be town. That being said, I'm not Prometheus-fishing, or fishing for any kind of Titan really. The Olympians are the ones we need to be looking for.

[hazelkrs1]

Actually, on that note, I'm gonna Unvote, Vote MCS. Still don't think Darthe is town, but he claimed Titan, not God, so he may be third party instead. MCS slipped in his god claim all surreptitious like, and it's time for some Deicide baby.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfglcPPaLJk

 

(note: video might be slightly offensive to some, but probably only those who worship claymation Jesus)

[Thorum]

Good morning everyone. 

 

Will post my comments on the weekend throughout the day. I haven't read much further than the posts discussed.

 

 

  I had no say in it, I'm an innocent child.

What do you feel the need to confirm this? Either we believe you are, or we don't. And of course you would want us to believe you are...

 

 

 

Ithi i'd be inclined to think that lynching inactives is a pretty town move. Remove the bushes for scum to hide in.

Not that this has anything to do with anything at this stage.

And Halli confirmed on day 1 saves us a lot of angst come day 6 

You used the word Scum. You don't do that - you say you want to find the Mafia Team when that is what you want to do.

So you must be on the Mafia Team and are using generic terms to seem like Town.

Vote Berf

 

So, basically, berf is mafia because he uses a word you don't like? Nice to have a 'confirmed' townie   btw, that's an Ithi-quote, not a Hallia-one.

 

 

[Thorum]

Wow. Does anyone actually know how those quote things work? Or at least to make them show up the same in the reply-box as in the topic?

[Darthe]

Do you guys need me to make an Ithi case or something?  This really isn't that hard.

[Niniel]

I thought she played a bit scummy before but then she claimed god out of nowhere. I don´t think mafia Ithi would do that. 

 

Thorum - do you really question our mod confirmed town? 

[hazelkrs1]

@ Thorum

 

No Darthe, no case on Ithi is needed. We shall all blindly follow along wherever you tell us to go without ever having to give any reasons or compulsion.

 

[Darthe]

A wise choice.

[Thorum]

Unvote, vote Pralaya. Distracting setup talk, and bringing out the third-party card. Both scummy moves, IMO.

I agree.

 

 

Who's Rory?

 

 

Wombat, you usually make a lot of sense. So, for now, unvote and vote wombat

See? I unvoted the joke vote 

 

Why are we discussing who are the good guys? Aren't all Greek gods very much grey? AND we're not allowed to tell who we are, so I don't see where you want to go with that...

So, to sum up: Des did something useless, Pralaya did something stupid. Pralaya, I don't know you, and it's giving me the creeps. I'm starting to be affeared that that's the only reason I'm not voting you.

 

 

Have you seen a confirmed town being mafia?

Quote by Tina. I guess it will come out right... Yes, I have. Not 'confirmed' in the opening post, but in an early end-of-night post.

 

I've reached the end of page 4. Now on to work :(

[Thorum]

@ Thorum

 

 

What's the problem with my post? You don't understand a part of it, or you think it's creepy, or scummy, or ... ????

This is a very scummy post.

[hazelkrs1]

I was referring to the part about you trying to wifom the alignment of a mod confirmed player.

[Thorum]

TL,DR version:

 

When I speculated about Demeter, and then let myself "ramble" with the faint setup talk, I was trying to trap scum. Pralaya seems to have fallen for it as well, introducing setup talk to a much higher degree, and even bringing up third party (when town should not focus or discuss at all really, until evidence surfaces which makes a third party existence seem possible).

 

I think anyone who tries to use Persephone's reveal as town to try and support the notion that other gods might be good too is probably mafia.

 

So, you're being scummy because you want other people to be scummy and not because you're scum yourself?

 

Another thing about the fake 'town': it would be something I could include in a game of mine. Does put her low on the priority-list, though. Guess we'll know if she's still alive in a few days.

 

 

I was referring to the part about you trying to wifom the alignment of a mod confirmed player.

 

No you weren't. That post of mine came AFTER the post of yours I quoted.

 

unvote and vote des

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

 

@despo no not atlas and no im not saying. I refuse to provide mafia with fakeclaims

Character claims aren't allowed...

 

I gave my thoughts on why I suspect Des and Rory already. And since I can't give my character, I've pretty much said all I can say. I just don't want my death to be in vain.

Character claims are disallowed, but role claims are still viable. Furthermore, you can give your thoughts on other players besides just me and Pral. You're wrong about me, and I'm not sure about Pral but he isn't very visible anymore anyways. What about some of the other players in the game? If you're town, this is the kind of stuff you could be putting out there. Otherwise, you just look like scum laying down for their own lynch.

I think you need to brush up on your Greek mythology, Despo. There are plenty of Titans who weren't tyrants.

 

And there were plenty of Olympians who were.

 

 

Unless you already knew that and you're just Prometheus-fishing. This is going beyond regular Despo scumminess. Feels like you might be forcing your meta.

Oh I more than agree with you that there were Olympians who were complete dicks, and weren't exactly showered with praise by the Greeks. But overall they were venerated for the most part. The Titans role in stories is to constantly battle with the Olympians for power, and the deeds with which they carried out some of their plans were pretty effed up indeed. Deceiving, then dismembering and cannibalizing an infant Dionysus? The joint castration of their father Uranus? Heck, even a lot of those who allied with the Olympians did some pretty awful stuff even after they "switched sides" like Hecate. There are a few who are described as neutral in the Hellenic tradition, and then those same ones will be ascribed to the worst stuff in the Thracian traditions.

 

Basically the only two that were actually favorable towards men were Prometheus and Epimetheus. I agree that Prometheus would likely be town, but I don't think Epimetheus would be, since he is partially responsible for pretty much the entirety of suffering released upon the world of men (Pandora's Box).

 

So yeah, I'm gonna be pretty skeptical about anyone claiming a Titan and claiming to be town. That being said, I'm not Prometheus-fishing, or fishing for any kind of Titan really. The Olympians are the ones we need to be looking for.

You say Character Claims are not allowed and then basically spam the Game with all kinds of stuff about the various Characters who may or may not be in the Game. What is the point of this discussion exactly? Trying to full the Game with stuff that looks and seems useful but actually is about as useful as a chocolate fireguard. Filler ... Filler ... Filler.

 

And Despo has apparently been told who the Mafia are in his PM. And what he has been told seems to be wrong. I don't think he has done anything useful so far this game so I shall keep my vote there. Just because he says his PM says he is Town and the Gods are Mafia doesn't mean he is telling the truth. Especially when I have flat out told him that I am a God and yet he believes me when I say I am Town. His PM apparently tells him I am Mafia.

 

But now he says is the Titans who are more likely to be Mafia.

 

Too many ifs, buts and maybes I think. This is why telling Fibs always gets you into trouble.

[hazelkrs1]

You sure are a funny guy Thorum

 

Check the timestamps bro:

 

Good morning everyone. 

 

Will post my comments on the weekend throughout the day. I haven't read much further than the posts discussed.

 

 

  I had no say in it, I'm an innocent child.

What do you feel the need to confirm this? Either we believe you are, or we don't. And of course you would want us to believe you are...

 

 

@ Thorum

 

You questioned the alignment of a mod confirmed player at 2:00 my time, I laughed about it 10 minutes later.

 

And really, what else would I have posted that for? You hadn't posted for a couple of days if I'm not mistaken.

 

Also, I'm pretty sure you don't understand how a trap works.... it's not just "act scummy" fyi.

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

 

Ithi i'd be inclined to think that lynching inactives is a pretty town move. Remove the bushes for scum to hide in.

 

Not that this has anything to do with anything at this stage.

 

And Halli confirmed on day 1 saves us a lot of angst come day 6

You used the word Scum. You don't do that - you say you want to find the Mafia Team when that is what you want to do.

 

So you must be on the Mafia Team and are using generic terms to seem like Town.

 

Vote Berf

So, basically, berf is mafia because he uses a word you don't like? Nice to have a 'confirmed' townie btw, that's an Ithi-quote, not a Hallia-one.

You misunderstand me. I know Berf and I know his speech patterns. They are very similar to mine. He is not American therefore the word 'scum' has more nastier connotations than the small informed minority in a forum game. He calls them The Mafia - like me. Whe he wishes to find the Mafia he says so. He used the word Scum instead - this is out of character and probably an attempt to seem to be cheerleading their discovery.

 

And so I believe he is not looking for mafia because he probably is Mafia.

 

Savvy?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Do you guys need me to make an Ithi case or something? This really isn't that hard.

*Ignores Darthe on purpose just to annoy him*

 

[hazelkrs1]

NinjaIthi. I wasn't told who the mafia were in my pm Ithi, stop putting words in my mouth. I was told info which then made me realize the scum team is comprised of the Olympians. And I never said the Titans would be the mafia team, I just firmly believe Titans wouldn't be town in this game. They would either be third party or perhaps a second mafia team, I dunno.

 

Again, my pm didn't tell me anything about the alignments of specific players. When you revealed as a god right after I had just announced that the mafia team would consist of gods, I thought it was just too bold a move to do as scum. I could be wrong, but for now I don't see you doing that as scum.

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

I said the bolded as a trap. I was somewhat confused by the announcement of Persephone being town, considering the theme and my role pm clearly make me believe the Gods are supposed to be the scum in this game. I decided that the fact that Persephone was an Innocent Child however, was probably the reason for this confusion. I think RTE might have put the role/character in the game as either a means of mod-induced wifom, or for balance purposes. Either way, I thought it likely that the scum might try and spring on this and use this to try and breadcrumb the concept of other gods being either good or not scum. So I figured I'd make it look more enticing and laid my trap. I can't say for sure that it worked on Pralaya, he may have come in with the leading setup talk without my post. But I can say with confidence that Pralaya IS scum, for doing exactly what I thought scum might do after Persephone's reveal.

 

And Wombat, kinda disappointed in you. Figured you would have picked up on the trap, seeing as how you saw me do the exact same thing as town in your own game (the trithread game with Darthe). I have often scolded others for the use of setup talk, but the fact is I love using it as a trap for scum when I'm town. As scum, I wait for others to introduce it and see if I have an opportunity to manipulate town from it, I don't introduce it myself.

[Thorum]

A God is a confirmed Town. I am a God and am Town.

 

Despo says he is not a God.

 

Perhaps our brave little humans are the Mafia Team seeking to overthrow our rightful place in the cosmos.

 

We often get so caught up in bad and good that we forget that actually it's us vs them.

 

Unvote - Vote Despo

As discussed by plenty of people plenty of times before: race is not important, nor relevant.

 

 

 

@Ithi: Okay lemme put it this way. My role pm makes it extremely clear to me that the mafia team are Gods.

The only way I see that being true is you being mafia yourself, or you lying. Which is the same thing.

 

I'm gonna do something many don't like, and link up Pralaya and Wombat. I was mafia with Wombat last game, and how he's taking the heat off Pralaya is similar to what he did in that game ...

 

 

BTW, for the point of it I am a Titan and I am town too.

 

Anybody wanna argue about specific factions being town/scum?

 

See? If anyone dares say this, I guess it proves the uselessness of guessing which race we all are.

 

 

Thorum, I don't like how he started right off the bat with that little story about the Wombat and then going on with Ithi. 

 

 

I think it was a lovely story, and I sincerely hope I'm not alone in that.

 

 

two pages left to go

[hazelkrs1]

One thing I think you are right about is that I think I have spent too much time discussing flavor. Its probably a waste of my efforts, and def looks like more of a distraction to town at this point. I'll try to curb it a bit on my end.

[Ithillian Turambar]

So yeah, I'm gonna be pretty skeptical about anyone claiming a Titan and claiming to be town. That being said, I'm not Prometheus-fishing, or fishing for any kind of Titan really. The Olympians are the ones we need to be looking for.

PM leads you to believe Gods are Mafia and I am a God. Then states that doesn't believe Titans are likely to be Town.

 

 

I generally don't think about 3rd parties in a Game. I'm just looking for the Mafia. That's how my head works - especially this early in a game.