August 9, 2013: CONCLUDED

[Nolder]

Alright, all caught up here.

 

First off, I believe Csarmi's claim here and don't see the reasoning behind lynching him in all three threads day 1.

 

I did notice that Leelou seems to be sheeping Verbal in this thread. Is there a reason for this that I am perhaps unaware of? Is verbal known as a good player on this site? I'm going to read through the other threads and see if I can put this together.

 

@Leelou: did you not believe Csarmi's claim?

 

vote: Leelou

 

Metawise, both Serra and Yates seem like their town selves here. I'm glad.

I see no reason why he would believe Csarmi's claim. Especially as obstinate and unhelpful as Csarmi was being.

In fact I think either shortly before this post or shortly after Csarmi claimed to have been playing in a non town manner just to get back at us.

So I don't get where this trust came from. Misplaced perhaps.

 

 

 

 

 

.......

 

And you should all unvote me now.

 

 

you keep on repeating this but you dont give us any good reason tbh

 

 

Don't I?

 

They're lynching town instead of playing the game. Going on a crazy and useless hunt that has already costed town a lot in one of the threads. 

Should be enough reason to unvote, start playing and start voting people.

 

 

see if we unvote and start voting others

 

there'll be a constant cloud of wifom surrounding you, which will be annoying the further we the game progress, what part of that didnt you understand? 

 

Hahahhaa.. So any time someone gets close to a lynch it's go time? The constant WIFOM cloud you have here is imaginary. I hate this reasoning. It's like you haven't even read what's been going on but are trying to think of a clever way to insert an input without really believing it. ->   

 

Vote Chuck

 

To all those - Boo Tinker didn't vote Csarmi, what a scumbag. He's L-2 and said he'd self hammer at L-1.

 

It was a decent vote but what was the point? I mean putting your vote on lolguy is meaningless if he isn't lynched and Tiinker was still expecting Csarmi to get lynched so I don't get why he wouldn't just FoS lolguy and put Csarmi at L-1.

 

 

We don't know till the person flips and I'm not voting anyone currently,

This was definitely scummy in retrospect so I can see why Tiinker was on his case but I still think he should have just continued the Csarmi lynch and noted his suspicion.

 

 

 

 

 

To all those - Boo Tinker didn't vote Csarmi, what a scumbag. He's L-2 and said he'd self hammer at L-1.

So why avoid putting him at L-1?

 

Well, he didn't want to hammer me in this thread. I wonder why - he actually did hammer me in T1.

Don't make him scum though. Maybe he thinks he's got a better lead here on someone else. Not sure why he voted Chuckles though.

 

 

I'm waiting to see the mod post there. Pretending to self-hammer is a bad play. If you were town over there and pulled it anyway, maybe that'll make me reconsider.

 

I'm not sure if this answers my question. You don't want to put him at L-1 in this thread because of a dumb move he pulled in the other thread?

 

I don't think my question ever got answered due to Csarmi being lynched but I wouldn't mind a late answer.

 

Well I didn't vote salami cuz I didn't have a scum read on him this thread, but T2 (right?) I voted him cuz I found him pinging me there, and if you see I never said I found him scummy, I wanted him lynched to stop the wifom

I wanted him gone, lynch Nk MK ZK whatever K, I found him ditracting which doesn't always mean scummy, so please stop putting words in my mouth with me wanting him lynched

So cheerleading a lynch but not joining it. And the reasoning is because someone is creating WIFOM...but they aren't scummy? 

So then lolguy you were cheerleading a lynch for someone you didn't find scummy. That is scummy behavior isn't it? Why shouldn't we lynch you?

[Nolder]

2/3 of the thread done. Gonna take a break for breakfast and then I'll finish it up.

[Nolder]

Vote Chuckles

Sheeping.

 

I'd prefer peace or bg over chuckles.

 

VOTE: bg

Reason?

 

 

As I said, Town isn't in a position to pull boneheaded moves, we're getting our asses handed to us so far, but scum is in a prime position to try something off the wall. Which is what you did.

 

So you're either scum or a detriment to Town. Gotta go.

 

Fallacy and you ignored my question.

 

If I am town..killing me is a detriment if we are in as bad of shape as you say.  Why would you advocate that?  What makes you thing I would continue with a play that turned out to be unsuccesful and further hinder town?  Even if no results have proven my play bad as of yet.  Stay in the box Ishy.

 

A good point.

[Nolder]

Alright reread done.

Notably Verb, Krak, and Lily are basically no where to be seen.

Hallia is also kind of just floating around not saying or doing much of note.

 

Biggest fish to fry is lolguy though I think. Looking back I really didn't like how he was pushing the lynch without joining it and advocating a lynch for someone he says he doesn't find scummy. That's just too scummy to ignore. Bad play maybe? If it is hopefully he doesn't do it next time. 

 

Vote lolguy

 

I know this doesn't fit into my theory with Peace, BG, and Yates...but unfortunately neither does Peace anymore really.

This game he's kind of been all over the place, swinging back from very scummy to extremely pro town and then back again.

I am ok with leaving him alive for another day for a potential cop or whatever to investigate him hopefully.

[lolguy26]

honestly i dont want to waste a day on people going back and forth cuz of me, im town cop 

 

and is lily in the game?!!

 

id go with krak tbh, 

[Nolder]

1. I admit I don't know what the votecount is right now but that seemed like an early reveal. I assume you got an innocent result last night?

 

2. I don't know, is she? She's on the player list but I can't remember seeing her post.

 

3. Krak seems to be lurking. I have a feeling the mods will sort him out tomorrow if he doesn't pick up his activity like right now.

 

4. Unvote

[Niniel]

That was an early reveal. I guess you haven´t viewed mafia?

 

I replaced Lily. 

[lolguy26]

@darthe: dude VC and change lily => Tina

 

and yes i got an innocent 

[Nolder]

You replaced Lily? But you've been in since the beginning...

Darthe wtf is Lily still doing in the player list come on guy

[Darthe]

Looks like I missed one!

 

Also, GFY

[Darthe]

And Tina replaced Lily pre-game

[Yates]

honestly i dont want to waste a day on people going back and forth cuz of me, im town cop

... I feel like I've heard this all before.  Investigation results?  Breadcrumbs?  Why now with zero pressure?  The usual...

[lolguy26]

 

honestly i dont want to waste a day on people going back and forth cuz of me, im town cop

... I feel like I've heard this all before.  Investigation results?  Breadcrumbs?  Why now with zero pressure?  The usual...

 

 

how about the bolded for the why now question 

 

and stop fishing 

[Yates]

and stop fishing 

LOL - The bolded is a load of crap.  And to characterize this as "fishing?"  WTF?  You're a tuna that jumped into my boat while I was scuba diving....

 

I look at it this way - you are going to be lynched today if you are lying or you are going to be killed tonight if you are telling the truth.  Your bogus attempt at refusing to prove you aren't lying is noted, though.  I don't even need to counter claim to prove you are lying [<3 Peace].

 

Vote: lolguy26

[lolguy26]

Right, asking me who I viewed isn't fishing at all and last time I checked the doc wasn't dead but if you want to lynch me, go ahead

[Yates]

Right, asking me who I viewed isn't fishing at all

It's not.  At ALL.  If you are telling the truth, you're likely going to be targeted by both scum AND 3rd party - which would leave your claimed "innocent" out there safe until your role is confirmed one way or another.  Doc [if exists] isn't going to save you from 2 attacks, bud.  You should have thought your claim out more fully.

[Yates]

Let me ask you this, Chuckles, how do you plan on proving your role?  Also, how would we know any future results are legit?

[serra]

Yates, what do you think of the notion that all the threads have the same set of roles? If that is true, the game is basically open w.r.t. the flips we've had in the other 2 threads, so there's no need to lynch un-cc'ed claims.

[lolguy26]

 

Right, asking me who I viewed isn't fishing at all

It's not.  At ALL.  If you are telling the truth, you're likely going to be targeted by both scum AND 3rd party - which would leave your claimed "innocent" out there safe until your role is confirmed one way or another.  Doc [if exists] isn't going to save you from 2 attacks, bud.  You should have thought your claim out more fully.

 

and then after that, what your telling me is to tell you who i viewed and paint a big target on their back, after i flip 

 

 

Let me ask you this, Chuckles, how do you plan on proving your role?  Also, how would we know any future results are legit?

if i get a guilty result, we lynch the person, and there we have it, according to how i accurate the flip is to my results, but you already know all that, i just cant fathom why you asked me this question 

[Hallia]

Why wouldn't the doc save from two kills? Doesn't a doc's protection usually mean they're safe from all regular kills (barring things like strongarms?)

[hazelkrs1]

Yeah I've never seen a doc protection fail because their target was targeted by more than one NK. Doc should be able to protect him even if both antitown elements try to kill him.

 

@Serra: you do seem to admit to lurking, saying that the only reason you posted is that Peace asked why you weren't commenting on that. I can't vouch for whether or not you'd lie about not being caught up yet, that doesn't seem like that big deal of a lie. You may have been busy IRL which is why you could be telling the truth on that, but still lurking and looking for the right moment to place an opportunistic vote on Peace

[_CLOUD]

alright, reading the last two pages now. how many hours do we have left before the deadline?

[_CLOUD]

ok I actually didnt manage to read those two pages in the end xD I will go to bed now and read up tomorrow.

[Nolder]

No idea. Maybe if Darthe hadn't had to edit Lily out of the playerlist nearly a week after she'd been replaced he would have had time to do a votecount for us.

[Yates]

Yates, what do you think of the notion that all the threads have the same set of roles? If that is true, the game is basically open w.r.t. the flips we've had in the other 2 threads, so there's no need to lynch un-cc'ed claims.

It's possible...

Unvote

 

I just want to know how he plans on vetting his role.  I'm not going to let him slide through Day 3 without reasonably proving his role.  Also, what's the point of a dead cop that didn't leave any info.

 

Yeah I've never seen a doc protection fail because their target was targeted by more than one NK. Doc should be able to protect him even if both antitown elements try to kill him.

If that's the case here, it's a departure from what I'm used to.

 

A Doctor is a role that targets a player at Night to protect that player from a single kill made during that Night. They are not told if their protection was successful. Protection from a single kill means that if multiple players try to kill someone, they will not be saved by one Doctor's protection.