[Advanced] US Presidents Mafia - MAFIA WIN

[Nolder]

Oh I missed that

Sorry

 

Still it'd be better if we didn't leave it to the last minute to decide TWO lynches. That was how we missed the first one you know?

[Darthe]

 

deadline is today guys

where is everyone?

Deadline was extended.

 

 

>Darthe is replacing Red.

 

 

Welcome back, Darthe.  

 

ALSO!  Deadline has been extended 24 hours for you all to be able to make an informed decision on your elections.

 

Deadline is now Friday at 11pm EST (-5 GMT)

 

 

This is in 11 hours just to clarify, I am going to try and read through within the next two and should have the entire scum team outted by then.  Kthxbye

[John Snow]

I have a migraine so cant remember eveything but one part of it was a slip she made about bussing rand

 

@ Snow   tell me whats smart about voting someone for VICE prez who has a train for prez and 0 votes for vice? Particularly when your second vote DOES have a train for vice prez?

 

exactly my point

[Darthe]

Okay, caught up.  I do not know if Red ever claimed but I am FDR.  

 

I would stake my mafia reputation that I have minimum 2 scum in the following list:

 

Basel

Amadine

Snow

Nol

WBK

 

 

Thus, 

 

Vote Basel President

Vote Amadine VP

[Darthe]

 

And it has not changed.  I have been told that this was a player in danger and that I would be put back at the top of the replacement slots if I was once more killed.  I have not kept up with the last bit of pages and so I would appreciate someone recapping why I, formerly Red, had a case against her?  Something more substantial than her playstyle please, she draws votes like a magnet.

You should also go over some of Red's posts and tell us what you agree or disagree with.

 

In reply to this, Red had 38 posts, most of which were made early game.  She read as town there, being very typically her, and I was alive at that time so you can easily see where we did and didn't agree.  Since my death she had less than 10 posts as far as I could tell and most were just trudging along.  How she managed to get votes for it I will never know, she didn't give enough info to be a valid candidate as anything other than Null.  

 

God people use meta all to hell.

[Nolder]

yeah

[dicetosser1]

 

I have a migraine so cant remember eveything but one part of it was a slip she made about bussing rand

 

@ Snow   tell me whats smart about voting someone for VICE prez who has a train for prez and 0 votes for vice? Particularly when your second vote DOES have a train for vice prez?

 

exactly my point

What??  did you actually read that?? cause you just made no sense.

 

You whinged at me cause i voted peace for prez and red for vice. said it was stupid.  now look at my post ^^^ 

 

Peace had a train for PRESIDENT. But soes not have one for VICE.  Red has both.

 

HOW is it helpful to make the only vote for peace as vice? Red/darthe may get lynched in either position. Peace wont. How could swapping my vote around help town?

 

that really set off alarm bells to me and i would be voting you snow but at this point that would be useless.

[Darthe]

Town will need to be active to avoid my death, a bit under 7 hours to go.

[ed2funy]

Darthe, it changed from tonight to Friday night. Which is tomorrow. Just fyi.

[Lenlo]

Im not sure why we should try to avoid your lynch. I didnt see you claim a power role and we have no idea what presidents would be scum and what wouldnt be.

 

Because of that I am going to play off of gameplay and I think Red has been the scummiest so far.

[dapianoplay3r]

Her meta set me on her track. Its not why i voted her. That messed up jumbled post is why i voted her

she denyed a bunch of stuff when i mentioned them, but i produced quotes that she never commented on

[Sakaea]

There is no reason FDR would necessarily be town by virtue of being FDR, tho I'm flabbergasted that Obummer was town. So beats the heck out of me, as to which would be.

[Darthe]

Dear lord I have no idea how people though Obama could be mafia the political debate the moderators would have started would hurt the game.  They wouldn't do that.  FDR, ranked generally in our top 3 presidents of all time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States) is clearly town unless you all think we have one of those games where everything is reversed to metabreak?  

 

In any case, yes Red was a mess.  She always is.  The nature of her is to be an emotional player, not a logical one and if you want to screw with her you can simply quote the contradictions.  It has always been so and hence..--> she draws death.  However, I am asking for a day.   You don't have to give it to me, I will be right back the next time someone needs a replacement and this death may provide decent info... But I think not.  That the mods said that to me should cue you in on my alignment.

[Lenlo]

Dear lord I have no idea how people though Obama could be mafia the political debate the moderators would have started would hurt the game.  They wouldn't do that.  FDR, ranked generally in our top 3 presidents of all time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States) is clearly town unless you all think we have one of those games where everything is reversed to metabreak?  

 

In any case, yes Red was a mess.  She always is.  The nature of her is to be an emotional player, not a logical one and if you want to screw with her you can simply quote the contradictions.  It has always been so and hence..--> she draws death.  However, I am asking for a day.   You don't have to give it to me, I will be right back the next time someone needs a replacement and this death may provide decent info... But I think not.  That the mods said that to me should cue you in on my alignment.

For all we know ((Not suggesting this for the record)) the people on Mount Rushmore could be the scum team. We just have no idea who the mafia is and cahracters should not be taken into account until we can get a good idea of who would be scum and who would not be.

 

unvote both

 

For now though.  This has given me some things to think about.

[peacesells]

Well, I know for sure that "bad" presidents aren't the scum criteria...so that means "good" presidents aren't town criteria.  I am Nixon and town.

 

If that criteria needs to be proven lynch me.  But Darthe, you reasoning is not correct.

 

I could lynch Jon Snow very easily. 

[Lenlo]

I would be willing to move to Rand btw, as he was my pick for VP.

[Darthe]

Well, I know for sure that "bad" presidents aren't the scum criteria...so that means "good" presidents aren't town criteria. I am Nixon and town.

 

If that criteria needs to be proven lynch me. But Darthe, you reasoning is not correct.

 

I could lynch Jon Snow very easily.

This is fascinating. I think, given what we know, that name claims should be chucked or disregarded until we see what happens with a lynched mafia.

[Darthe]

Darthe, it changed from tonight to Friday night. Which is tomorrow. Just fyi.

 

Vote Count?

[Darthe]

Well, I know for sure that "bad" presidents aren't the scum criteria...so that means "good" presidents aren't town criteria.  I am Nixon and town.

 

If that criteria needs to be proven lynch me.  But Darthe, you reasoning is not correct.

 

I could lynch Jon Snow very easily. 

Forgot to mention this.  I still support the notion of saving this talk for after a mafia death but my current prediction is that presidents who are not memorable or relatively unimportant to history are mafia.  Calling it for the future.

[dapianoplay3r]

Dear lord I have no idea how people though Obama could be mafia the political debate the moderators would have started would hurt the game.  They wouldn't do that.  FDR, ranked generally in our top 3 presidents of all time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States) is clearly town unless you all think we have one of those games where everything is reversed to metabreak?  

 stop skimming. We were told by the mods that alignment isn't related to character. Throw me all the history you want, it won't clear you

In any case, yes Red was a mess.  She always is.  The nature of her is to be an emotional player, not a logical one and if you want to screw with her you can simply quote the contradictions.  It has always been so and hence..--> she draws death.  However, I am asking for a day.   You don't have to give it to me, I will be right back the next time someone needs a replacement and this death may provide decent info... But I think not.  That the mods said that to me should cue you in on my alignment.

Red is an emotional player, but she is a good player, she bulldogs and finds mafia. You are using her meta to try clear her, scummy (cos you are trying to use your own meta to clear yourself in a round about way)

You are also asking us to postpone Reds death another day when it was postponed yesterday. How many one more days will you ask for, what will they prove? Mentioning the replacing again just irks me.

 

The fact is red lied. She said she didn't say things, and yet she did. All she seemed able to say is that I'd get egg on my face for this, now you say that we won't get much info from this. To me that doesn't sound like egg on my face if you are telling the truth so that suggests she was lying there too

[Darthe]

You will get Red's (My) alignment.  I suppose that is worth something?  Ultimately it isn't going to be enough because she didn't have the presence or interaction levels we would expect of her and (I) happen to be in such a position that I'm already aware of red's alignment.  Hence, I know it isn't going to help much.  The meta thing you mention is clever but not my intent.  I have simply pointed out what I know of her.

[ed2funy]

Ugh. Reply boxes acting up again. Bare with me. Hopefully some of this basic code shows up.

How bad is it that I remember the coding on all this purely because of mafia games?

 

Vote Count - Day 2

 

President

Red Darthe (6) - RTE, Tiink, Player, Rand, Hallia, Basel

Peace (3) - Nolder, Ama, Dice

Nolder (2) - Peace, Song

Basel (1) - Darthe

 

Vice President

Rand (5) - Hallia, RTE, Tiink, Player, Basel

Red Darthe (3) - Peace, Song, Dice

Player (1) - Ama

WBK (1) - Nolder

Dice (1) - Rand

Ama (1) - Darthe

 

Updated Deadline

With 17 Presidents, it takes 9 votes to Elect each position.

[peacesells]

 

Dear lord I have no idea how people though Obama could be mafia the political debate the moderators would have started would hurt the game.  They wouldn't do that.  FDR, ranked generally in our top 3 presidents of all time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States) is clearly town unless you all think we have one of those games where everything is reversed to metabreak?  

 stop skimming. We were told by the mods that alignment isn't related to character. Throw me all the history you want, it won't clear you

In any case, yes Red was a mess.  She always is.  The nature of her is to be an emotional player, not a logical one and if you want to screw with her you can simply quote the contradictions.  It has always been so and hence..--> she draws death.  However, I am asking for a day.   You don't have to give it to me, I will be right back the next time someone needs a replacement and this death may provide decent info... But I think not.  That the mods said that to me should cue you in on my alignment.

Red is an emotional player, but she is a good player, she bulldogs and finds mafia. You are using her meta to try clear her, scummy (cos you are trying to use your own meta to clear yourself in a round about way)

You are also asking us to postpone Reds death another day when it was postponed yesterday. How many one more days will you ask for, what will they prove? Mentioning the replacing again just irks me.

 

The fact is red lied. She said she didn't say things, and yet she did. All she seemed able to say is that I'd get egg on my face for this, now you say that we won't get much info from this. To me that doesn't sound like egg on my face if you are telling the truth so that suggests she was lying there too

 

You know what else is in Red's meta?  Unfortunately quitting early in games when the heat is on and she is scum.  I know she's not gonna want to read this..but it is true.

 

UNVOTE BOTH

 

VOTE DARTHE PRESIDENT

 

VOTE NOLDER VICE PRESIDENT.

[Darthe]

Not an invalid point. 

[Basel Gill]

I see I'm not the only one to start quoting previous VCs when modding to avoid wacky coding.