Can Tam Channel?

[Arisilde]

Let me start with an apology if this has been discussed before. I did a quick search, and didn't see any thread titles that definitively answered this, but I easily could have missed it.

 

Can Tam al'Thor be taught to channel? More to the point.. Does the "Oneness" indicate the ability to be taught to channel? By logical extension, does this imply that Lan could be taught as well?

 

So, in Randland, the general opinion has been that mankind has been culling the male-channeler traits out of the genetic pool. However, everyone is astounded by how many men can be taught, (rather than having the ability inborn). And, just as the Aes Sedai have been thrilled by the "Old Blood" running rampant in the Two Rivers, as evidenced by female recruits, does it not stand to reason that the same Manetheren bloodlines that keep the Old Blood "singing" would also produce potential male channelers?

 

Several soldier-types have mentioned the "Oneness", but it also seems to be something akin to the rosebud novice exercises that female channelers use to prepare to embrace the source.

 

Again, fairly new to the community, so hopefully I'm not rehashing old ideas.

[Denn]

For what it is worth, I think so. I am new to the theory thing, and tried not speculate, but I have wondered the same thing.

[Barid Bel Medar]

The Oneness itself doesn't indicated channeling ability. It is something that can be developed by any soilder, although you are right in saying it shares similarities with embracing/seizing the source.

 

INTERVIEW: 2001

Thus Spake the Creator (Paraphrased)

 

SIGNING REPORT (THE ONE POWER, THE TRUE POWER, AND CHANNELING)

The question I asked was "Does anyone within the books have the ability to use the Flame and the Void?"

 

ROBERT JORDAN

The answer was "The Flame and the Void is a concentration aid and you do not have to be able to channel to do it."

 

In regards to Tam channeling, I can't say either way. There is no real evidence suggesting it. I doubt that it will turn out that way, at least not in aMoL, it wouldn't fit in, I don't think.

But the possibility is still there.

[A Rant Lord]

I don't think anyone that doesn't channel in the books we have now is going to start channeling in the final book, doesn't make sense

[Mulk]

possible exception of a sul'dam or two, notably Tuon/Fortuona, as that would have a huge effect on the future where the Seanchan are concerned. Aside from that, I tend to agree with you.

[Alric]

There's nothing indicating it about Tam, several other men, most prominently Lan, have talked about the same exercise. But, considering the number of channelers among the TR women, and powerful ones at that, there are probably lots of non-sparkers among the men there.

[Ashaman Kovan]

I think several Asha'Man have already been recruited out of the TR. If there were any left that can learn, they're either too young or they declined to be tested. Either way, I don't think Tam can or will channel. It would serve no purpose whatsoever.

[Glyphwright]

Can Bela channel?

[Ashaman Kovan]

Obviously.

[Orderofolde]

Interesting thought. It aided Tam to best and defeat Laman "who needed killing." But too many soldier types as stated above use this for higher sword forms and archery. I don't think it would serve any purpose. And he would need to be taught.

[Clouded]

Interesting thought. It aided Tam to best and defeat Laman "who needed killing." But too many soldier types as stated above use this for higher sword forms and archery. I don't think it would serve any purpose. And he would need to be taught.

 

While I like the idea, is this accepted as Canon? I've not heard this theory before.

[yoniy0]

Interesting thought. It aided Tam to best and defeat Laman "who needed killing." But too many soldier types as stated above use this for higher sword forms and archery. I don't think it would serve any purpose. And he would need to be taught.

While I like the idea, is this accepted as Canon? I've not heard this theory before.

That Tam killed Laman? No. It's my first time as well.

[Clouded]

Interesting thought. It aided Tam to best and defeat Laman "who needed killing." But too many soldier types as stated above use this for higher sword forms and archery. I don't think it would serve any purpose. And he would need to be taught.

While I like the idea, is this accepted as Canon? I've not heard this theory before.

That Tam killed Laman? No. It's my first time as well.

 

The more I think about it, the more unlikely it seems. Tam would have to be in Cairhien to kill Laman, and soon after be at dragonmount to find Rand.

[yoniy0]

Laman died along with his two brothers in a battlefield outside the Shining Walls, but it's still very unlikely, not the least for the fact that the Aiel knew about it when it happened (the horns were sounded to announce Laman's death). I tend to believe Gitrara died at the exact moment of Rand's birth, and Tam would indeed be hard-pressed to slay Laman on the field then get away in time to find Rand on the slopes of DM.

[Mulk]

That would be one heck of a reveal, wouldn't it?

 

I doubt that is the case, as Laman's sword was in Aiel hands from then until Aviendha gives it to Rand and that suggests to me that it was Aiel that killed him and looted his body, but all the same, it is interesting and not something I'd ever given much thought to.

[jsbrads]

the randlanders were protecting Laman, the aeil were able to overwhelm the protectors and take him out. Tam wouldn't have tried.

 

The only people who we can be absolutely sure can't channel are people who know of the oneness. because once u reach the oneness, u don't need any special ability to see saidar/saidin, it is right in your minds eye

[driedraspberry]

the randlanders were protecting Laman, the aeil were able to overwhelm the protectors and take him out. Tam wouldn't have tried.

 

The only people who we can be absolutely sure can't channel are people who know of the oneness. because once u reach the oneness, u don't need any special ability to see saidar/saidin, it is right in your minds eye

 

I'm not sure if the second part is true. Rand didn't sense saidin in the void even once the potential had developed in him. He only started to sense it there after he consciously channeled. Learners at least very likely need coaching to get there, even if the regularly form the void.

[Ashaman Kovan]

Yeah, that part about the oneness, if you can achieve it and don't sense the source then you must not be able to channel is, unfortunately pure speculation. With nothing to back it up really.