Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]

[hazelkrs1]

 

Signing off for now, I'll be back on later tonight at work

[Nightstrike]

WOW. I wake up to this? Y'all had me going for a minute there. . .

 

I say we disregard the list entirely, because it presents too much wifom to make anything of it. If we say that there's got to be at least a baddie on that list, then we'll end up lynching all the town on it before we get to the mafia. On the other hand, and disregarding the list, Darthe is pinging like crazy.

 

Also, and I don't know who said it, but someone implied that the list would have different meaning if he were symp versus the goon that he was? What do you mean by that? EIther way he's mafia, to me.

 

This post.... but from my mouth.

OK, I'm going to try your way of finding the ones who would seem scummy, instead of looking for those who appear to be town. I must have missed something here, then, about Darthe. I'll read up and get back. Is there anything about Darthe that someone would like to point out to me (if I miss the obvious pinging part)?

[Nightstrike]

Nightstrike, since you've already got kind of a headstart, you mind giving a brief summary of your thoughts on everyone still in the game?

What headstart? Those was just the ideas I got from the couple of things I quoted. I don't have any particular scum reading on anyone right now.

Night: This pings: how could you say this after stating that there's no way Despo, Lessa/Lanth, or Dice are scum. You gotta give us more than that, honey.

That's just not true - I didn't say that there's no way they were scum. I said I though they were likely to be townies, because of the voting earlier. I quoted it, so why didn't anyone say how wrong I was then?

[Nightstrike]

Maybe that should be pinging me? Are you on the mafia team alannalynn?

[Nightstrike]

WOW. I wake up to this? Y'all had me going for a minute there. . .

 

I say we disregard the list entirely, because it presents too much wifom to make anything of it. If we say that there's got to be at least a baddie on that list, then we'll end up lynching all the town on it before we get to the mafia. On the other hand, and disregarding the list, Darthe is pinging like crazy.

 

Also, and I don't know who said it, but someone implied that the list would have different meaning if he were symp versus the goon that he was? What do you mean by that? EIther way he's mafia, to me.

 

This post.... but from my mouth.

OK, I'm going to try your way of finding the ones who would seem scummy, instead of looking for those who appear to be town. I must have missed something here, then, about Darthe. I'll read up and get back. Is there anything about Darthe that someone would like to point out to me (if I miss the obvious pinging part)?

Heh, I didn't actually quote that from this page, but from when it was was originally said. But still, what about Darthe have I missed?

[alannalynn]

Not saying you're wrong, but if you're scoping out townies, you're missing the point-- we're looking for mafia, not townies: scum can act as townie as any townie can. I just presumed that since you have an idea of who is pinging you as town that you would also have the reverse, which are those which are pinging you as scum. You seem to be jumping around a lot, that's why we're questioning you.

 

The note on Darthe was him saying we should pick off everyone on the list starting with those acting most scummy (ignoring that he himself was on the list and scummy-seeming). So, that's what pinged.

 

Edit for Night: Haha, no.

[Nightstrike]

So he wasn't a symp. I highly disagree with the idea of completely disregarding the list. I am okay with being who we lynch off of it first since I realize that I am pushing the idea but I feel that if we lynch the scummiest players from it there is probably at least a scum on the list he made. Otherwise it would help the town in the long run.

Is this part of it, because that would be odd. I spoke up and said pretty much the opposite, and were put under suspicion of being scum because of it.

[Nightstrike]

If he is a symp, why would he pick those names? I am pretty certain he would pick at least one mafia to be on his list. I say kill them all in order of scumminess and go with it? I mean, these people will never make it to end game now anyhow.

Could a townie have said this? I might be bad at this game, and misreading everything completely, but I think a townie could say such a thing. I don't know if I would have, but still.

[alannalynn]

These are the quotes I was looking for.... and I'm completing my notes from Night 1 through Day 3 finally...

 

Yay some talking during the night!

 

Naw, it wasn't a slip. I know this because I'm not scum. I win by surviving to the end of the game. Fastest way to do that? Lynch the scum. And in a game with a no lynch, town profiting option (( sometimes)) keeping me around is rather simple.

 

I count as another vote for the town and one more person between the scum and victory .

@peace, I didn't say she had. I said it is easy to. There's a difference.

 

@Lenlo, why would a third party survivor have access to a neighborhood QT unless they were invited? This whole thing still confuses me.

Without directly quoting my role PM, let me clarify as much as I can. My PM says neither the word "masons" nor "neighbors". It lists the name of the property I own, and refers to the name of the property that is adjacent to mine. Its owner is my "buddy" and the PM states we have always been sure of one anothers' intentions and alignments. It gives the information about the meeting we have been invited to, and then states that I and the other individual both win with town.

 

We initially assumed we were masons, and the QT was a mason QT, but when Len showed up, I re-read my PM and realized the QT link was an invitation to a meeting behind closed doors. I don't know what technical mafia role one would use to refer to myself and the other person in question, but there it is.

^all this confuses me, makes me sus of the QT and meeting and whatnot. I don't want to assume Tress is town just because she's on a not-really-mason QT with another "confirmed townie" and a survivor role.

[Razen]

That list is throwing me for a loop. Part of me is saying that there's merit in delving into it and lynching the scummiest appearing member on that list. Another part of me is convinced that it's WIFOM spread by a mafioso that knew he was going to die. He could have put one name on that list, or he could have outed the whole team, knowing that people would be in shock and convinced that it's WIFOM and can't possibly be the whole mafia team. I wish I could just forget about it, but everyone seems to want to bring it up in some way or another to build their cases on today.

 

If he is a symp, why would he pick those names? I am pretty certain he would pick at least one mafia to be on his list. I say kill them all in order of scumminess and go with it? I mean, these people will never make it to end game now anyhow.

 

And then it's this quote that has me wanting to rip someone's hair out. And has me turning myself in circles with what I'm thinking. Why would Darthe be ok with killing the whole list? Maybe they left one team member off and by focusing on this "list" they can get that person through to the end. Either way, the ease with which he wants to go with the list troubles me. But one thing is clear to me: Darthe is looking really scummy right now. And I believe that he's the best chance at catching scum today.

[Razen]

These are the quotes I was looking for.... and I'm completing my notes from Night 1 through Day 3 finally...

 

Yay some talking during the night!

 

Naw, it wasn't a slip. I know this because I'm not scum. I win by surviving to the end of the game. Fastest way to do that? Lynch the scum. And in a game with a no lynch, town profiting option (( sometimes)) keeping me around is rather simple.

 

I count as another vote for the town and one more person between the scum and victory .

@peace, I didn't say she had. I said it is easy to. There's a difference.

 

@Lenlo, why would a third party survivor have access to a neighborhood QT unless they were invited? This whole thing still confuses me.

Without directly quoting my role PM, let me clarify as much as I can. My PM says neither the word "masons" nor "neighbors". It lists the name of the property I own, and refers to the name of the property that is adjacent to mine. Its owner is my "buddy" and the PM states we have always been sure of one anothers' intentions and alignments. It gives the information about the meeting we have been invited to, and then states that I and the other individual both win with town.

 

We initially assumed we were masons, and the QT was a mason QT, but when Len showed up, I re-read my PM and realized the QT link was an invitation to a meeting behind closed doors. I don't know what technical mafia role one would use to refer to myself and the other person in question, but there it is.

^all this confuses me, makes me sus of the QT and meeting and whatnot. I don't want to assume Tress is town just because she's on a not-really-mason QT with another "confirmed townie" and a survivor role.

 

I don't even get how we're assuming that Tress is town, to be honest. Others have pointed out that the QT meeting between a survivor and two townies doesn't seem very town oriented, and I have to agree. Sure, Tress ratted Lenlo out, but that's not to say that they didn't agree to that in their meeting in order to achieve some type of a higher goal. It would sure serve to put her out of suspicion by handing Lenlo to us and then going on and winning the game for him. To be honest, that's what I'm afraid of - that she and her "partner" aren't being completely honest here.

[alannalynn]

Thanks Razen, glad I'm not the only one questioning this-- I thought I was just being paranoid.

[Nightstrike]

So you think that by suggesting that we start with him, we would assume he's innocent? I suggested noone was a scum member on the list, but I don't know if anyone agreed with me.

[bgrishinko]

What makes you think Tress had any reason to lie?

[alannalynn]

What makes you think Tress had any reason to lie?

Nothing I can think of, but it just doesn't seem to fit. I mean, masons qts make sense, mafia qts make sense. But having a QT for a "meeting" where Tress and Unknown know each other are town and are told they're plotting against the baddies, then having Survivor Lenlo show up in there under the impression that the meeting is to help ferret out the rich seems ~off~. I just don't know how safe it is to automatically assume that neither Tress nor her partner are mafia, or that they're playing us. Granted, this isn't enough to just be sus of Tress and her partner (I'll trust them for now), but... It just feels like there should be something more to the equation. Why put Lenlo there in the first place?

[Darthe]

The whole Tress thing concerns me because of the situation but I get the feeling she is town simply because nobody not of the town would feel the need to reveal that information. What would it gain them but two dead or outed members of their own team? Normally I would not think like this but my own situation has me considering it. Have any of you actually thought about that? What would it gain me to out myself if I was mafia with David? The answer is simple. It would probably lose my team two people instead of one. I still feel that there is almost certainly scum on the list and that it warrants all of our death at some point. I am not (and have never, despite some of you accusing me of it) said that we should drop all reason to kill the people on the list (myself included). I simply think it should be factored in like any other part of the game. Lynch me for my opinion if you must but it will prove me right eventually.

[Thorum]

Well, I'm definitely not mafia, which means you are.

 

*Checks if his vote is on David*

 

Ping Number One: He immediately dismisses it and attempts to be funny.

 

Someone claims a stupid role to claim, and in one breath proclaims me mafia. Am I allowed to immediately dismiss it?

 

And then there's all these. He very noticeably ignores the list, and tries his best to get everyone ELSE to ignore the list as well, right off the bat, while throwing as much suspicion on Arez as possible. Not that Arez made it hard, but the list shouldn't have just been dismissed as Thorum did it here. Everyone else seems to be giving it serious thought, but not Throum, and he'd like everyone else to ignore it at well.

Unless I missed some, before this post only 2 persons mentioned the names in that list. Including me, as a question on what to do with it. Atm, I agree with others who've said it'd probably be best to ignore it.

If you mean the roleclaim instead of the list of names, see above.

 

Have to change pcs. Starting at Des' post will follow later (only read one post :( )

 

For now: Andrew

[Thorum]

unvote

 

Forgot the darthe thing.

[Nolder]

Votecount

Nightstrike - Des (1)

Thorum - Andrew (1)

Darthe - Razen, Thorum (2)

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

 

I'm drunk atm so votecount may not be 100% accurate

Inform me if you've noticed any mistakes

[Thorum]

I'm drunk atm

That makes me jealous. Work :(

[dicetosser1]

i think this list will have the mafia laffing their butts off cause of the confusion is is creating

 

Things ive seen in the last few pages make sense to me re thorum and Darthe but im not sure which way i would want to go on them

 

I am however certain i want to vote BG as i think he is scum and have done for a little while now.

[Thorum]

dice, you did the same on the previous day. But no explanation has followed anyhow. Why?

[Nolder]

I'm drunk atm

That makes me jealous. Work :(

It's actually not cool

a little too drunk

[hazelkrs1]

I didn't get nearly as much time at work to post some thoughts tonight, but I'll be back home in a little while and can post then.

 

Dice's vote just now looked pretty scummy to me tho. We honestly have too many good candidates for a lynch today. I'd say Darthe might be able to be put on the backburner right now, his whole fiasco with the list might just be a townie blunder.

 

Today we should string up either Nightstrike, Dice, or Thorum.

[Nightstrike]

I'm town, and I haven't seen dice as scummy. Why do people talk about voting Thorum and bg? Is there anything scummy that's come from them?

 

I do wish people would explain why they see things as scummy, and also tell why they're voting someone.