There Goes the Neighborhood (Game Thread) - GAME OVER MAFIA WIN

[Nolder]

My vote is already on him, and it's staying there.

I don't think I trust you anymore

 

are you talking about the jurassic park game?

I was a survivor that game, not town aligned

and as I recall you were mafia that game...

 

Still the same kind of idea with that role, no matter your alignment. You often said you would shoot someone and then chose someone else.

 

Yes, I was. What does that have to do with anything?

not really

my powers were 1shot

I don't think I ever actually had a kill power in that game anyway

 

 

Not when you have a role like vig. Besides, vigs are dangerous when they are not sure about who they kill. With the way you are playing, I'd be afraid to let you remain in the game with that power. Still, I'm pretty sure you are bullshanking us.

Well if that "overcome with guilt" thing means i'll die if I kill a townie you shouldn't be too worried right?

I'll kill you and die at the same time if you're town

If you are town..how in any since of the word is that outcome a benefit to town?

 

Are you town aligned?

people are presenting the vigilante role as dangerous but apparently if I kill a townie I die anyway so I wont go on to kill townies

that's assuming Mynd is telling the truth

 

and yes I'm town aligned

[Nolder]

Really? I'd actually expect him to go along with town as they have more numbers and have the best chance of winning. But maybe that's just me. I've never played a vig or SK that I can remember, so *shrugs*.

but I wasn't a vig or a SK that game

I was a survivor that had to FIND one shot powers

I couldn't exactly plan ahead and both sides we're trying to play against me so I did my best to play them

just part of the role

 

you don't have to trust me now but I am definitely aligned with the town this game and when I die you'll see that

 

Just bringing it up as a possible problem later on as a vig is more likely to hit town than scum. Plus, nolder is already saying that he'll aim for Mynd. If he survives today and decides to try and kill Mynd, that's two townies down possibly, plus the mafia NK. So three possible townies in one night. It just does not seem like a good idea to me.

and as we saw in BG's game a good vig can also tear the mafia apart and practically win the game for the town

 

I don't like how you just keep repeating that a vig can hurt town, we get it already and I'm aware of the possibility

I plan on keeping my shots on a short leash

 

also bear in mind I can only shoot every other night

even if I was to shoot every night and hit a townie every night the damage wouldn't be quite as bad as a regular vig anyway

[peacesells]

Nolder..I don't get why you are dead set on Mynd? Your reasons provided so far are thin at best. Is it just because Mynd has been against you? Is this OMGUS?

[Darthe]

Nol, if you are alligned with the town then why not shoot someone that we suspect is scum rather than someone that most of us do not? No scum carries a conflict as long or ferociously as EP and Mynd did.

[peacesells]

 

I disagree

I've seen Mynd do just what you're saying before

this isn't how he does it

he actually tries to justify it by calling certain things scumtells and getting in the face of anyone who defends the person he's going after

then, if he feels like it, he'll flip and go after the people who agreed with his BS

 

the difference in this case is that he isn't accusing anyone of being scum for anything they did

he's essentially "picked at random"

that doesn't sit right with me

I have a feeling Mynd was aware of his own logical fallacy

my guess is he was betting no one else did

 

and hey imagine EP being a member of his scum team or a third party scum and we lynched him

imagine how long he could keep up lynching people based on this whole process if he "got it right" the first time

 

I don't trust it and I don't trust him

not this time

 

Just re-read most of your posts. This one here I think explains why you are tunneling Myth so hard. I think Mynd scares you..whether he is town or scum and you'll do anything to relieve that fear. You don't care if he is town or not. That makes you too dangerous to town. If you are town and Myth is town then we risk losing 2 town oriented players plus the mafia NK. And if we decide to lynch someone else in your stead (and we get it wrong)...that's possibly 4 town players dead in one day/night phase.

 

To break it down:

 

We lynch random person (possibly a townee)

You shoot Mynd he flips town

You die due to guilt

Mafia kills a town player

 

Is this something you think is an acceptable risk if you are wrong on Mynd? If so..man you are tunneling hard.

[Blackhoof]

I do think that Nolder has been too focused on mynd this game.... he has been abnormally aggressive too, but that could be because he is a vig and he has never been one before.... or it might be that he is trying a new p0laystyle, or WIFOM'ing us with meta, because even as scum he has never acted this way to my memory.

 

I do not think that Nolder is mafia... maybe a townie with tunnel-vision, but not mafia.

 

I would not "mind" (geddit?) if mynd was shot, since i am still pretty suspicious of him, so i would support not lynching nolder, but what are the alternatives?

[Nolder]

Nol, if you are alligned with the town then why not shoot someone that we suspect is scum rather than someone that most of us do not? No scum carries a conflict as long or ferociously as EP and Mynd did.

because I have no reason to trust most of you at this point

 

if someone is cop confirmed later or something maybe I'll follow them but right now I have to rely on myself or I'm in danger of being misled

[Nolder]

To break it down:

 

We lynch random person (possibly a townee)

You shoot Mynd he flips town

You die due to guilt

Mafia kills a town player

 

Is this something you think is an acceptable risk if you are wrong on Mynd? If so..man you are tunneling hard.

I suppose that would be the worst case scenario

however if lynch Mynd I'll hold my shot and likely we'll just have a mafia night kill

if Mynd flipped town we'd be down only 2 by tomorrow but we'd be down a vanilla and whatever the night kill was

if you lynch me then you're guaranteed only 2 townie deaths but you'll be killing a town vig and whatever the night kill is

 

Mynd claims powerless so it's a much safer lynch than my own if you look at it from that perspective

that's how I see it anyway

[dapianoplay3r]

My vote is already on him, and it's staying there.

I don't think I trust you anymore

 

Not when you have a role like vig. Besides, vigs are dangerous when they are not sure about who they kill. With the way you are playing, I'd be afraid to let you remain in the game with that power. Still, I'm pretty sure you are bullshanking us.

Well if that "overcome with guilt" thing means i'll die if I kill a townie you shouldn't be too worried right?

I'll kill you and die at the same time if you're town

If you are town..how in any since of the word is that outcome a benefit to town?

 

Are you town aligned?

people are presenting the vigilante role as dangerous but apparently if I kill a townie I die anyway so I wont go on to kill townies

that's assuming Mynd is telling the truth

 

and yes I'm town aligned

 

I dont like the first bolded part at all. You are only now suggesting that Kae is scummy cos she won't unvote your extremely scummy claim. Seems like you are clawing at things to take down with you

 

I also think that the way you almost quote your role PM was odd. You had it in speech marks so I assume it is a direct quote. Now that I find extremely detrimental to your situation

Rule 8

8. Quoting the Mod: You may not quote anything I say in PM or anywhere else about the game. You can’t game the mod. You can’t talk about what I said or may have said in my PM’s.

 

Soy has Mod killed once in this game for rule infraction. Your quote seems rather rule breaky to me if you were telling the truth

 

Now the last bolded part. I dont see how 3 dead townies is one night is a good thing in any way shape or form. If you were to miss kill then you basically move us to Day 4 just by the number of kills. Cos if we dont lynch you then who is next and what are the chances they are on the mafia team? You are effectively doubling the number of townie deaths if you are what you say you are and do what you say you are going to do. Not very town like play or reasoning on your part

 

The thing I cant figure out is that you would have to NK one of your own tonight to vett yourself. That is a very high price since one is already dead. Therefore I assume in doing this that you are using it as a cloak, expecting to die, to cover for a team mate.

 

I want to hear your reply before I vote you. You have till after I have made and eaten dinner

[dapianoplay3r]

Sorry i missed your last two posts. I dont think switching to mynd is a good choice right now.

Did you have the plan to pull that out all along?

[Lenlo]

Or we could pass D1 with a no lynch and see what night brings us. This way we only lose 1 townie from the mafia NK if Nold can hold off on his shot at Mynd until we at least get some more info.

[Nolder]

I dont like the first bolded part at all. You are only now suggesting that Kae is scummy cos she won't unvote your extremely scummy claim. Seems like you are clawing at things to take down with you

actually this is the third time I've taken note of something Sakaea has said that I found off

it's not that she wont unvote me it's that she's not giving reasons or explaining herself

I decided to note it this time because I might not have a chance to say so later

 

I also think that the way you almost quote your role PM was odd. You had it in speech marks so I assume it is a direct quote. Now that I find extremely detrimental to your situation

Rule 8

8. Quoting the Mod: You may not quote anything I say in PM or anywhere else about the game. You can’t game the mod. You can’t talk about what I said or may have said in my PM’s.

I did not quote him

I made sure to paraphrase

 

Now the last bolded part. I dont see how 3 dead townies is one night is a good thing in any way shape or form.

the reason I said that is because people are implying that a Vig can be more dangerous to the town than the mafia

my response is that if I mess up I'll probably die

therefore I wont be able to continue causing harm

 

I don't know how else to defend against something that may never happen you know?

People are already assuming I'm going to shoot town so all I can tell them is well if I do I guess I'll die

What else is there to say to that?

 

The thing I cant figure out is that you would have to NK one of your own tonight to vett yourself. That is a very high price since one is already dead. Therefore I assume in doing this that you are using it as a cloak, expecting to die, to cover for a team mate.

 

I want to hear your reply before I vote you. You have till after I have made and eaten dinner

You mean if I'm mafia?

Uhhh I guess I would?

Dunno what else to say to that

[Nolder]

Sorry i missed your last two posts. I dont think switching to mynd is a good choice right now.

Did you have the plan to pull that out all along?

pull what out?

[Nolder]

Or we could pass D1 with a no lynch and see what night brings us. This way we only lose 1 townie from the mafia NK if Nold can hold off on his shot at Mynd until we at least get some more info.

well we already have a dead scum today

I could agree to hold my shot for the night if we did that

[dapianoplay3r]

Unvote

 

Vote Nol

 

I think it's the best bet at this point. Im off to bed now and you didnt convince me. If you are town Im sorry but it seems like the best option at this point

I shall now be sleeping and then working. Ill be back in about 20 hours

[Nolder]

wrong choice but it's cool

 

good luck everyone

[Basel Gill]

That's a hammer, and I have to go to work before the flip comes. I hate it when that happens.

[bgrishinko]

So Nolder... you really are a Vig then? If so... turd on me.

[SBoydW]

Vote Count:

 

Nolder (13) - Mynd, Darthe, BG, songstress, Razen, Kaylee, kae, Nyn, Little Miss, Lenlo, Key, Ironeyes, Piano

Mynd (5) - Nolder, Arez, Nae, Tina, Blackhoof

Hoof (2) peace, Basel

Kae (1) - Ishy

 

 

That's a lynch.

 

The citizens of Littletonboroville had gathered in the town center. Accusations flew among them. One citizen proclaimed " Mynd is tearing this town apart!" Another claimed "He's forcing people out of town!" They all began to proclaim for his execution.... Then another cry arose "wait wiat!! What about nolder?" Everyone grew quiet for a moment... then throughout the crowd people began to say "huh.... Why not?" the cry of "Nolder Nolder Nolder!" arose in the crowd as they shoved him towards the exectution stand. "wait wait!!!!" nolder exclaimed. "I can help you, I have special skills!!" However the town was not convinced. When presented for execution the mayor asked "Are you sure this is the man you think is tearing apart our town?" "Yes he's the one!" many people shouted. "Very well." the mayor replied, and with that he was executed.

 

The town members flocked to his house and began to tear it apart. It was then discovered a grave mistake had been made. Nolder's Journal was discovered. Throughout it Nolder expressed his love for Littletonboroville, and how he would do anything to protect it, even kill.

 

Nolder, Town Vigilante has been killed.

 

 

It is now Night. Please sumbit all night actions.

 

Deadline Firday at 5pm

 

 

http://www.timeandda...in=&sec=&p0=412

[bgrishinko]

Huh. Well. I told Nolder that I'd reveal if I was wrong, and I'll keep that promise. I'd rather wait till day though unless anyone has any objections?

[Aiel Heart]

Don't have time for a full "Heartcap" right now but from what I remember of my quick read through:

 

HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAAHAHA

 

So, Nol, what does it mean if I'm replacing Levity in this game? ;)

 

The whole "they haven't been mafia in this long so they must be mafia now" argument is idiocy (see Hoof's post. I'm watching those going along with it >.> <.< >.>

 

And with that, I'm off to review with a friend for my last final (I'll be on as much as I can but I have to pack and do a bunch of other end of the year things right now. Should be able to stay in the game though)

 

Here's the last time Heart had a game related post. I realize she's in school, but four RL days without posting game stuff is a little much. Last time I went TWO days in a game, my coplayers were calling for my head (and lynched me!) . So, I'd like to know where she is.

 

Also, she mentions that Mynd's theory is idiocy, that she's watching those that go along with it, but yet doesn't vote for anyone.

 

Before Heart, Levity seemed to jump to EP's defense rather quickly.

 

Where I've been: April 20th-May 4th I was dealing with end of the year final projects, exams, papers, all of that fun stuff. Last week I was also seeing all of my friends one last time before school let out and packing up all of the crap in my dorm room. Friday I moved out and that was a whole mess of things. This past weekend I was with family celebrating my aunt being put in her high school's athletic hall of fame (brag moment--the other three people who were put in are a current player for the Jets, a retired Olympic athlete, and a really awesome coach whom is well known in this area), having a bit of a family reunion, and spending time with cousins that I haven't seen much of in the last three years. Monday I got home and have been spending time unpacking, being with my siblings, and sitting in a rather coma like state of exhaustion. I know none of this excuses me, I've been meaning to get on more, but I haven't had the time or mental capacity to make educated posts.

 

I've now reread up to here but would rather wait and post my opinions at daybreak. I probably would have gone Mynd in all of tat mess, especially after the reveal. I also find it interesting that you focused in on me when there have also been a few other people who have been very scarce this game. Any opinions on them?

 

I didn't vote because I assumed Mynd was stirring the pot, and I wasn't going to condemn him solely for that, and if memory serves, at that point it was also too early to vote on anyone else based off of that. A few people did stick out as scummy later on. See my post "in the morning" for more details

[Aiel Heart]

That last paragraph was in response to the post above btw

[keyholder21]

I've now reread up to here but would rather wait and post my opinions at daybreak. I probably would have gone Mynd in all of tat mess, especially after the reveal. I also find it interesting that you focused in on me when there have also been a few other people who have been very scarce this game. Any opinions on them?

 

I focused in on you because Levity appeared to be defending EP when she was playing so I made a note of her/you and how you've been playing. In light of how he flipped, it looked suspicious that she was defending him, then you came in to make one post and then were gone for four RL days while the EP vote "blew over". I even stated my suspicion of Lev/you in a post a little bit back before this one.

Also, before your posts today there were merely two people who had posted fewer times than you – Arez and Kaylee. Both of whom had checked in, voted, and weighed on the nolder/mynd situation before you posted so why would I say anything about them?

[Aiel Heart]

Just because some have posted a couple times more doesn't mean they're as active *shrug* also a lot of people who are voting without saying much. Just is interesting to me

[keyholder21]

Just because some have posted a couple times more doesn't mean they're as active *shrug* also a lot of people who are voting without saying much. Just is interesting to me

 

Just for explanation:

 

Fair enough on the first part; more posting does not equate activity in the game. But I am pretty sure everyone weighed in on the ....brouhaha that was going on between EP/nolder/Mynd.

 

Bolded - implies that you were active at all. Which you weren't. Which was my point lol. But you're here now and will be more active, yes? Also, busy girl!