What role will Olver have in the overall scheme of the books?

[Valley of Death]

I am curious about this because Olver is kinda of a big minor character. And i know he was used to have Mat left behind when the Seachan came and for a little background with the Snake and Foxes game, but is that the purpose of his character? or will he have a major role in the final battle or leading up to it

[Darthe]

None. He is useless fodder and foreshadowing. Just kidding ! Olver is probably going to have some tie in with the Seanchan or Wondergirls. I can't even remotely figure out how he could be important yet though.

[Luzburg]

Hes either a reborn hero or a future hero of the horn. Chance twisted itself around him to open Mats letter, maybe hes hawkwing reborn lol.

[Azrayne]

I've been wondering about this myself. He's obviously building up to something, but as important as he seems, he's still what, 11, 12, 13? Exactly how much difference can he make once the last battle rolls around?

 

Hopefully he doesn't end up in some cheesy 'the kid saves the day' situation.

[Didgya]

Maybe we will know after Mat blows the horn...then we will see if anyone is missing from the Heroe's.

[Thrasymachus]

I reckon Olver's gonna snuff it during the battle for Caemlyn. The One-Eyed Fool has to walk the Halls of Mourning, and unlike many readers, I don't think that refers to the realm of the Finns. Mat didn't do a whole lot of mourning while he was there, mostly fighting and cursing.

[Lisa Campbell]

I have no idea but I can't wait to find out.

[StalkeR]

how about him being Gaidal Cain. he is (like Mat said) the ugliest boy he ever saw - we know from Birgitte and Nynaeve that Gaidal Cain is ugly. We know he was put back into the Pattern before Birgitte was forced in by Moghedian. We also know Birgitte was somewhat fond of the boy. Only problem i see is that Oliver is, what, 11-13 years old, where Gaidal Cain should be 1-2 years.

[Terez]

RJ debunked it a long time ago. This is a popular theory among those who have a postcount similar to yours. ;)

[ironisles]

RJ debunked it a long time ago. This is a popular theory among those who have a postcount similar to yours. ;)

 

What do you think will happen to him Terez?

[Terez]

I won't be surprised if he dies. RJ said he had a reason for being there, so...we'll see. I don't have any good theories.

[Finnssss22]

He's going to kill Demandred of course

[master]

I'm just waiting for tuon to adopt him into the imperial family. mat'll send him him to ebou dar with a message and he'll return with his head shaved and he'll return with a few thousand soldiers, maybe a couple of the deathwatch guard and a gardener or two. ready to get revenge on the shaido or something.

[Luckers]

Well, he's kind of creepy in TofM, so I wouldn't be surprised if he does something really dodgy like kill a main character or something.

[Azrayne]

RJ debunked it a long time ago. This is a popular theory among those who have a postcount similar to yours. ;)

 

Can't exactly blame them, when the physical description matches Gaidal perfectly. Only problem is the ages not aligning.

[bsmnt23]

His purpose in the story was likely fulfilled when he read that letter left by Verin for Mat. I hope he doesn’t get killed in the Last Battle, he is probably going to be the single most interesting person in Randland after, if he keeps it up. So far his education has included hand-to-hand combat, horse handling, tactics and strategy, knife skills, sword skills, staff skills, by Mat, Thom, Julien and several experienced soldiers. All this on top of the other, more important skills he's picked up just by hanging out with Mat, such as Basic Woman Handling 101 and Intermediate Troublemaking 101. He’s also had Noal telling him about Jain’s (his) travels around the world (I’ve always seen the Corona spokesman “The Most Interesting Man in the World” as an allegory to Jain Farstrider. I bet they’d be trying to out-awesome each other all night long and end with a handshake). I see little Olver taking up where Jain left off (when he grows up a few years), wandering the world and telling of his strange adventures and romances with exotic women in unfamiliar lands.

You know. If he doesn’t end up on the end of a trolloc spear.

 

[Troilen]

Dos Equis ^^

[Kudzu]

Maybe we will know after Mat blows the horn...then we will see if anyone is missing from the Heroe's.

 

We only know the names of a handful of hero's and most of them were at Falme. He can't be any of them for the same reason he can't be Gaidal Cain, too old. He could be an unnamed hero reborn, but how would we know and why would we care?

[Morsker]

I see him as a "disclaimer" like Nicola. RJ showed all these young women playing around with dangerous things and never getting hurt. He needed one token character who did get hurt, to show that ignoring safety is bad.

 

Olver will be a tragic hero showing that vengeance and violence usually aren't good ways to get what you want -- after we have a whole series of people who engage in combat and hardly get scratched, often with vengeance as a motive, over and over again. Olver can join Nicola in the afterlife, and they'll produce after school specials on Third Age Safety together.

[Horseman]

Well, he's kind of creepy in TofM, so I wouldn't be surprised if he does something really dodgy like kill a main character or something.

 

 

Could you refresh my memory? What made him creepy?

[Azrayne]

I see him as a "disclaimer" like Nicola. RJ showed all these young women playing around with dangerous things and never getting hurt. He needed one token character who did get hurt, to show that ignoring safety is bad.

 

Olver will be a tragic hero showing that vengeance and violence usually aren't good ways to get what you want -- after we have a whole series of people who engage in combat and hardly get scratched, often with vengeance as a motive, over and over again. Olver can join Nicola in the afterlife, and they'll produce after school specials on Third Age Safety together.

 

Except those messages are kind of meaningless when they happen to side characters. People might be a little sad, but there's an assumption among fantasy readers that a certain portion of the side characters are there for dying. What would be really interesting is if someone more central to the plot died, to throw things off their course and create some serious ramifications among the main cast.

 

But Jordan was notoriously opposed to killing even the smaller characters (did Morgase 'really' need to run away and have her own plot line? Moiraine coming back really cheapened her sacrifice, don't even get me started on the Forsaken), so I don't think we'll see any real characters die unless Sanderson decides to break script.

[Durinax]

he is going to be killed in Caemlyn, afterall in many ways Olver is the only thing holding mat back.