[Advanced] Malazan Mafia - Game On

[Nolder]

yay!! Nol *snuggles Nol*

uhhh hi

 

okay i'm not likeling this Lily rain. i agree she's been acting wierd, but honestly i think its more her hitting a slump and needing to refind her groove becuase she's been playing wierd in the last few games. this doesn't give her a pass, i just think the tain on her is trumped up now and moving way too fast for me to be comfy with it.

hmmm

I really didn't think this before

but now that you've said this and changed your vote it does seem possible that you and lily are scummates and that hoof is covering for her

[Nolder]

In the meantime - since its obviously what he wants:

 

Unvote - Vote Hoof

I've read many times that the first rule of warfare (I'd say first rule of competition in general) is to never do what your enemy wants you to do

 

I think we should leave hoof alive for today and have a vig shoot him at night if we have one

if not we can just lynch him later if need be

regardless let's not do what he wants us to do

that just means if he's scum he's picking our path for us and that's not what we want

[Nolder]

Of course it turns out that Jack is a total git,

buuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnn :excl:

[Nolder]

ok I am 100% caught up

 

Vote: Lily

 

I think we'll get a lot more information if we lynch lily than if we lynch blackhoof or anyone else

she's claimed a power role but honestly redirector sounds pretty lame if you don't know who's who/what's what

 

it's a manipulative role and manipulating things is a mafia trait

this leads me to believe that she's telling the truth about her role but not her alignment

this role is much more suited to mafia since to them pretty much all power roles directed at them are bad

for example pretend that lily and red are mafia together and cop investigates red

lily uses her power to redirect cop to a townie instead of red thus saving red from being guiltied by the cop

[Ithillian Turambar]

In the meantime - since its obviously what he wants:

 

Unvote - Vote Hoof

I've read many times that the first rule of warfare (I'd say first rule of competition in general) is to never do what your enemy wants you to do

 

I think we should leave hoof alive for today and have a vig shoot him at night if we have one

if not we can just lynch him later if need be

regardless let's not do what he wants us to do

that just means if he's scum he's picking our path for us and that's not what we want

 

OK - so I'm more than happy to go back to my first thought for who is on the Mafia Team. If Lily does have a night action and Hoof doesn't (which is possibly why he is being sacrificed) it makes more sense to lynch Lily and take Hoof out later. I never thought of it that way before - so thank you for that Nolder. Of course he could be being the cleverest Mafia Player in the world ever - and just making it look like Lily is on his team so that we do lynch her, but at least you have seen some other signs that make it more likely that my initial read was possibly correct.

 

I hope we do have a Vig. Imagine if it was a vig like berf had in the DPR game, where all actions were instant and live. That was brilliant to watch.

 

:wouldtotallylovetoshootHoofie:

 

I've still never forgiven you for the Comedy Death Scene

 

So *flips vote again* Unvote - Vote Lily

 

I will deal with you later Hoofie ...

 

:ominousthunderinthebackground:

[Sedai]

Takes 8 to lynch

 

ed (1) - wombat

red (1) - lily

ithi (2) - krak, tina

lily (5) - ishy, kate, hoof, Nolder, ithi

hoof (3) - ama, Ed, red,

 

Not voting: Berf Christine amega

[Nolder]

I hope we do have a Vig. Imagine if it was a vig like berf had in the DPR game, where all actions were instant and live. That was brilliant to watch.

you have no idea how good it felt every time INFB shot someone

we were under so much pressure and each death was just a huge relief since it sent town scrambling each time and it took them awhile to gather themselves

[Red2111]

i'll switch my vote to lily for a cotnrolled lynch, but i still think the lycnh is trumped up.

 

 

nice job connecting peopel Nol, yep so not a scum tell there if Lily flips innocent, wonder who'll step in and say Nol was distancing from me and trying to link me with lily so her innocent alignemnt woudl help clear me.

 

*shakes head* linking people is dumb imo, leads to helping the scum and too much WIFOM

[Ithillian Turambar]

Of course it turns out that Jack is a total git,

buuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnn :excl:

 

 

Also - thanks for this

 

*Installs Modly Lightning Rod right next to her*

 

Erm ... We are friends, right Jack

[Nolder]

Of course it turns out that Jack is a total git,

buuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnn :excl:

 

 

Also - thanks for this

 

*Installs Modly Lightning Rod right next to her*

 

Erm ... We are friends, right Jack

Jack said not to be nice

I was helping you out

you just got like +15 mean points

[amegakure]

i agree with red. Linking people in my case dosent work out very well. And when you make a case and they flip innocent that dosent help either. Although i do say im not so sure about this whole lily lynch. Im getting town but everyones seeing scum for having nothing to go on. I will probably be able to vote later but i wish to hear more discusson

[Ithillian Turambar]

Do you not have any thoughts on who might be Mafia so far Ameg?

[Nolder]

Do you not have any thoughts on who might be Mafia so far Ameg?

ITHI TRYING TO TRICK SOMEONE INTO LINKING

WATCH OUT!!!

 

 

seriously though I get why linking can be scummy

I do

really

 

but you have to consider who might be on a team with who

it really helps in deciding who is scum

 

like WIFOM I see it as more of a neutral thing that just tends to be used by scum more often and more effectively

 

TL;DR linking really isn't bad, it's how you use it

[Ithillian Turambar]

Am totally not trying to trick anyone!! Shame on you Nolder. My super Mafia Mentor said that it is good to ask questions, and I just wondered if Ameg had any suspicions at all of his own, or if he was just planning on following the crowd later on lol.

 

Saying that you want to see more discussion and that you MIGHT vote later is a bit of a wishy washy thing to say on day 2 IMO. Its like them folks who constantly say they will do a re-read before voting and then never come back and vote, and just post the re-read thing again the next day.

 

So I just wanted to know if he had any thoughts about anyone at all really.

[Nolder]

oh my post was really directed at red

I was just using you to be funny

I guess I failed

[Ithillian Turambar]

Nolder is being NICE ...

 

-27 points.

[WWWwombat]

unvote

 

Vote Hoof

 

Don't really care about Hoof but I think Lily is innocent.

[Nolder]

Nolder is being NICE ...

 

-27 points.

oops

 

unvote

 

Vote Hoof

 

Don't really care about Hoof but I think Lily is innocent.

that's kind of scummy

if you don't want to lynch lily you could make a case for someone else instead of just bandwagoning onto hoof

it's not like a deadline has been set yet

[WWWwombat]

Nolder is being NICE ...

 

-27 points.

oops

 

unvote

 

Vote Hoof

 

Don't really care about Hoof but I think Lily is innocent.

that's kind of scummy

if you don't want to lynch lily you could make a case for someone else instead of just bandwagoning onto hoof

it's not like a deadline has been set yet

 

Deadline will come out of nowhere. We need competing trains now. I already tried to get Ed lynched to no avail.

[WWWwombat]

Anyone on the Lily train is mad suspect btw imo.

[LilyElizabeth]

I just want to clear things up. I never advocated mindless bangwagoning. I was merely suggesting we get moving with the game quickly. I see you have, which is good.

 

 

I will say this: I don't know the series and have no idea who my character is, but those who have read the books say he/she's a good character. Still, if you're going to lynch me, now is better than LYLO. If you don't, I'll likely be nightkilled anyway soon. I'm not totally unhappy with being the lynch choice, I guess.

[Niniel]

Just like Ithi I like to congratulate Blackhoof on his accomplishment of being alive on day two. But I hope you are hugging your teddy bear because now you are on your way to lynch yourself. When I first read Blackhoof´s post I didn´t see it as scummy because it´s just Blackhoof. Often he is pretty easy to read. But just like some of you, I thought he was overdoing it. "I´m obviously scum so that means I am not because then I wouldn´t say so". I don´t think he would use that as a symp thing. Not at all. Fos Ama and Red. I´m saying that because I know how he use to play and you have played with him too.

 

Could he be scum. Yes, if he is not town then he is on a scum team. Although I feel like this was his own play and not that he have been told to save someone.

 

 

Nolder - I don´t have the quote but I laughed when you said that you might have voted Vambram. Trying to look town at the same time as you write "might". You say Lily´s roll should be a mafia roll. I have never played in a Jack mafia before and I don´t know what rolls he would use. Maybe you are right.

 

Amega - just like Ithi said he dropped by and said he will vote later. That is not a good way to play this game if you are town. That said I will also fos Christine and Berf. I will never forget the DPR game where Berf laid low the whole game and killed town. (I also remember I wanted to lynch you but no one listened. )

 

Wombat - vote Blackhoof even though he doesn´t care about him. He just wants competing bandwagons. Hm...

 

Lily - giving up? It seams that you are back and forth. Don´t lynch me - I don´t care if you lynch me.

 

Ithi`s train is going nowhere. Unvote. Vote Blackhoof. I would like to hear from him again. Was it just you being bored?

[ed2funy]

I already tried to get Ed lynched to no avail.

Hmmmm. thanks?

 

I have been a redirector twice. Was Town in both. Yes it could be any blah blah shush. I disagree that only mafia have "manipulative" powahs.

[LilyElizabeth]

Tina, of course I'd prefer not to be lynched, but if it's going to happen, better early than late. Later on, it could mean the difference between winning and losing. Sorry if I'm being unclear. I wrote that right after I woke up and was looking at it from both angles.

[LilyElizabeth]

Unvote

 

Vote Hoof

 

for obvious reasons.