Wheel of Time Mafia Game Thread

[Red2111]

yes i meant Kwom. too many things goign on in my brian right now.

 

please replace the name Drew with Kwom *mumbles*

 

 

But not only implies saying that "I can't lie" that you are Aes Sedai but also that you are not of black ajah, unless you are lieing.

 

but t's ambigous. there are alot of AS in the WoT world. it's not a clear character hint; so it can easily be sed by peopel both tellign the truth and scum who want to create chaos. understand now??

[Krakalakachkn]

OKay, I haven't read your whole post, but you mean Kwom and not Drew right?

 

 

Yes, I think she does.

 

 

 

Ok, I think this is happening too easily (Kwon revealing as bus driver) and we're leaving the last stone unturned. I may be reading too much into this, but we need a new angle...bear with me.

 

What if Aemon is scum as well as one of the others (I'm thinking Player). So the busdriver switches Aemon and Red. Player (or whomever) sends in a NK or something on Aemon, knowing it will be switched to Red but due to something (maybe protection from Ed), the attack fails.

 

Huh, thoughts?

[Red2111]

okay either i'm spending too much time on LoLz or my cpu is conspiring agaisnt me.

 

i typed said, but it came out as sed just like i'm sure i type kwon and it came out as drew not funny Mr PC, not funny at all.

 

 

 

Krak - thats a good angle. but for it to work the Bus Driver would have to be scum (which is possible btw) otherwise how woudl they even be sure theres a Bus Driver in the game?

[Krakalakachkn]

But wait...that would mean Kwon either A) isn't the bus driver and revealed to protect others in the scum B) Due to his noobishness, Kwom didn't realize a bus driver and redirector were different roles and therefore only the people who targeted Aemon would go through (why quibby went through and Ed/Player's didn't because they targeted Aemon and Song's worked cause she didn't directly influence/attack/use her role on Red) or C) I'm over thinking wayyyyy too much.

 

 

If A is right, then either 2 or 3 of those who Song viewed are scum, and if B is right then Kwom, Aemon, and most likely Player are scum together, and if C is right, let me know so we can move on to better ideas

[hotpocket2006]

You are wrong Red, I know for sure that they targetted you last night. There's a reason I am quite sure, but I can't share it with you just yet. I just pm'd wombat to see if I can share.

[Red2111]

^ are you 100% positive your ability isn't effected by roles liek Bus Drivers & Redirectors.

 

 

 

 

no i don't think your over thinking this one Krak.

 

if Kwom is scum with Aemon, he could have targetted me & Aemon to protect Aemon. that way if the other team tried to NK Aemon, it woudl be transferred to me; if a finder attempted to veiw me then it would be transferred to Aemon (therefore making my alignment appear as scum to the finder, even though it woudl be Aemon's alignment)

 

i can see the major use for scum targetting me & Aemon as a bus Driver even if Aemon is town. in this case it causes chaos (which has been achieved) and mixes up peoples findings.

 

 

i'm unsure about Kwom. with him being a BD, we can't trust finders to be acurate, because if he's scum he'll just switch himself with another player; if he's town, there are good & bad sides to his role depending on how he uses it.

 

i say for now, we continue to watch his actions, and maybe how he uses his role (if theres a way) and make a dicission then. right now i'm more comfy with either Player, or ed rather than Kwom; because i'm getting a more scummy vibe from those two

[Quibby]

One of those two messages is not from me. I missed it the first time through, but more than one person tried to send Red a message, from the look of it.

 

Based on my role, there's going to be at least one scumbag with the same role as I have, and I can't say any more about it than that without bringing down the Blue Bolts of Modly Lightning.

[Red2111]

can you tell us which message was from you Quibby?

 

 

and yeah, i could see Lanny as being able to communicate through T'A'R or Moggy or ishy/Mordin given the characters relationships with T'A'R in the series. though Lanny & Mordin were the only ones to use it as a means of contacting/watching other characters in the books.

 

 

there are also Wise Ones who can use it to communicate. so there coudl be a handful with this ability tbh

[aemonkristen]

UNVOTE

 

VOTE PLAYER

 

I'm good with lynching player today to see if we can resolve all of this.

[Alanna]

I see I was beaten to it, but zi was just going to say, I can think of evil people in WOT who would be able to send dream messages as well. Lanfear and Ishamael in particular leap to mind.

[bgrishinko]

can you tell us which message was from you Quibby?

 

 

and yeah, i could see Lanny as being able to communicate through T'A'R or Moggy or ishy/Mordin given the characters relationships with T'A'R in the series. though Lanny & Mordin were the only ones to use it as a means of contacting/watching other characters in the books.

 

 

there are also Wise Ones who can use it to communicate. so there coudl be a handful with this ability tbh

 

 

I believe firmly that these people exist.

The question here is whether Lanny/Moggy/Moridin/Wise Ones can communicate at night outside of TAR or if these people have simple Mason roles for good and evil. I'd think the evil ones (especially Lanfear and Moridin as you stated) would probably have different powers... or maybe one of them can spy on Wise Ones meetings?

[Alanna]

Yeah, I don't think we'd have two baddies with T'A'R abilities. Though I suppose dream world powers could be translated into a lot of different things. I had an Aiel dreamwalker in one of my games who was a finder.

[Verbal32]

You are wrong Red, I know for sure that they targetted you last night. There's a reason I am quite sure, but I can't share it with you just yet. I just pm'd wombat to see if I can share.

 

Dammit I thought Red was onto something there, and here you go and shoot it down! Doh!

 

Let's just consolidate all our votes on Aemon and lynch him.

[Quibby]

*For the sake of clarity, this is not meant to be interpreted in a tone of testiness, anger, bitterness, or anything else negative, but rather a half-joking melodrama. If you hear this like a monologue out of a cheesy movie, then you're on the right track.*

 

I could say which one is from me, but it would do me absolutely no good whatsoever. One answer, I get called scum for trying to sow chaos and disorder. The other answer, I get called scum because I'm claiming the friendly-sounding answer. Oh, and no answer? I get called scum for not being cooperative. Since the scum-calling is inevitable, I'd rather hold off on that little bit for now. There might be a quiz later.

 

After that three page bit comes the inevitable, "Well, who are you talking about?" that I can't answer because one of those two statements is not my message, and the other is information that I am not able to reveal. (This all takes at least five or six posts to hammer to death, by the way.) The end result is that you have one name to attach to one sentence, and still no name to attach to the other, and we waste several posts getting to that conclusion. Basically, you have all the information that I can give sans the one bit.

[Quibby]

Oh, and does anybody else think that Verbal's insistence on going after Aemon reads like Compulsion?

[hotpocket2006]

Okay I'm allowed to say why I know for sure. I wasn't allowed to reveal how I knew my knowledge unless Kwom revealed, and since he did I am able to tell you Wombat made a mistake *hugs wombat* I was supposed to get who targetted Aemon, but I was actually sent those who targetted Red. So I know for sure they targetted Red and that's how I know.

[bgrishinko]

Okay I'm allowed to say why I know for sure. I wasn't allowed to reveal how I knew my knowledge unless Kwom revealed, and since he did I am able to tell you Wombat made a mistake *hugs wombat* I was supposed to get who targetted Aemon, but I was actually sent those who targetted Red. So I know for sure they targetted Red and that's how I know.

 

Let me get this straight, you targeted Red originally to see the visitors, but you were supposed to get switched by Kwom and see who targeted Aemon before the re-directs.

But due to the mistake, you didn't get switched so these people are the ones that ORIGINALLY targeted Red before all the switcheroos.

 

Is that right?

[hotpocket2006]

No they ended up targetting Red when it was all said and done, after Kwom did his switch so I believe they targetted Aemon and got switched to Red.

[DrewRiley]

No they ended up targetting Red when it was all said and done, after Kwom did his switch so I believe they targetted Aemon and got switched to Red.

 

So Womby remembered to switch the NA of everyone except yours? Just trying to get this straight.

[bgrishinko]

Gotchya. I don't like this Bus Driver thing. I guess it makes the game more interesting and fun in its own way though. Talk about loads of confusion. The fact that Kwom admits to it though speaks well though. It just seems like an overly scummy power. I can see how it could be used for good, but meh. Such is life.

[hotpocket2006]

No they ended up targetting Red when it was all said and done, after Kwom did his switch so I believe they targetted Aemon and got switched to Red.

 

So Womby remembered to switch the NA of everyone except yours? Just trying to get this straight.

 

Yes. lol

[DrewRiley]

I've seen the busdriver turn a mafia NK back on itself at the end of a game. I've never seen it as a scum power, though it certainly could be, and it makes things really interesting and unpredictable. No kill is safe!

[Verbal32]

No they ended up targetting Red when it was all said and done, after Kwom did his switch so I believe they targetted Aemon and got switched to Red.

 

This actually makes a lot of sense. I would imagine most targeted Aemon due to the DR reveal. This helps put the situation in perspective. Now if we could just lynch him.....

[bgrishinko]

No they ended up targetting Red when it was all said and done, after Kwom did his switch so I believe they targetted Aemon and got switched to Red.

 

This actually makes a lot of sense. I would imagine most targeted Aemon due to the DR reveal. This helps put the situation in perspective. Now if we could just lynch him.....

 

Give it up Verbal, we are not lynching him this round.

[Myndrunner]

Oh, and does anybody else think that Verbal's insistence on going after Aemon reads like Compulsion?

 

Yes.