[Pete Mafia: Dr. Who Style] End game congrats cult of skaro

[Adella]

Aust you are aware that by saying this, if she doesn't flip scum, suspicion will fall on you? I am going to assume so.

I don't think I know the code by heart but here is my attempt :D

 

[glow=red,2,300]Anox[/glow]

Did I do it right? I'm on my phone.

[Jeran]

That's right Adella.

[glow=red,2,300]unvote

 

vote anox[/glow]

 

[Anoxanmore]

*laughs*

 

Good luck with the inactive SK :)

[Anoxanmore]

Oh yes, and of course nothing against you Adella dear.

 

Its hard to make choices when there are like six people lurking, like Aust did for 3 days.

[Red2111]

Lia i was actually thinking that maybe a reflecting role of some sort caused the death.  or maybe a type of redirector role.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Anox[/glow]

 

Fine, you want me to actually play, lets do it.

 

We still have one more person out there at the least who is scum, although this ratio is awfully high, clearly we had a cult, sk, and mafia.

 

So far there have been six kills. So... Verbal was an SK, MCS, Jenn, Wes, and Tigs were mafia.

 

 

okay the things that i dont agree with and convinced me to vote for you even though your hammered are in Red.

 

 

first off, what do you mean "you want me to really play"?  honestly that sounds like an omission of maybe a SK or cult where you don't care about the game mechanics and finding scum becuase of the seperate win condition.  so you just sit back and try to stay under the radar

 

2nd is the people you've listed as Mafia. of which you left off Aemon and your number of deaths are inacurate.  i also dont remeber Verbal being killed....  i find it odd that you would list everyone dead besides verbal as mafia, especially when we know that Wes was buisy recruiting people night one via a trusted player telling us so.

 

we all agreed that Wes was mostlikely the cult leader, and that Al Jenn was cult as well.

 

 

honestly in a game with 20 people and 3 anti twon groups we are likely to see these numbers

 

1 Sk, 1 cult leader & 3 Mafia + 1 symp/recruiting ability or 4 Mafia

 

[Naeann]

Pete needs to update the OP.  Please? :-\  I can't keep straight who is even stil alive lol.  Especially with some inactivers.

[Anoxanmore]

So I missed one in my rambling... I do make typos from time to time red.

 

Unless you have some idea that I do not, that MCS, Jenn Wes, Tigs were something other than mafia?

 

Verbal is listed as a lone assassin that would indicate SK.

[Lavinya]

Can we have the hammer already? This game will go stale until we can move on and gather more information.

[LilyElizabeth]

I'm not going to write a fancy story for you guys. Sorry. I've got two games of my own changing phases today..... but I feel bad.

 

I will, however, give you what you want most. lol

 

Vote count

 

Anox (9) – Aust, Lavinya, Nae, Boopsy, Crafty, Lia, Adella, Jeran, Red

Adella (1) – Anox

 

Not voting – Player, Pookie

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

 

 

Anox, not innocent, is dead.

 

I will let Pete explain the role and such, being that I have no idea what is what on this show....lol

 

Nae, the vote count should give you a player list. If you need me to, I can put it in list form.

 

[LilyElizabeth]

And, yeah, it's night. Town PMs to me, Not town to Pete. You know the drill....

[Naeann]

Nope.. that works for me hun. :-*

[Lavinya]

Non voters will be modkilled, right? Totally sucks! Make sure you vote guys, we could have just lost two innocents, all because they didn't vote. :(

 

Glad to see we were on the money with Anox, too.

[Wayward_fool]

I thought non voters are killed only if a lynch isn't reached. So they're still good. Just gotta make sure we get a lynch and the non-voters are fine. Whoohooo! Bye Anox! *bounces*

 

Madness.

 

Anyhooooo.... night time. *hides under an umbrella*

[Lavinya]

Ahh good, I was worried. Still, it could have been a near thing.

[Wayward_fool]

Well... *shrugs* I'm not sure how much those two are gonna contribute, seeing how inactive they are.

 

And what makes ya so sure they are innocents?

[Lavinya]

Nothing, just that they could easily both have been innocent and dead for not voting. Contributing or not, it's still a game of numbers. We really don't want or need to lose any more innocents than strictly necessary, to keep the balance in the town's favour.

[Wayward_fool]

True.

 

*shrugs* Moral of the story... DON'T BE TOO INACTIVE. Vote someone... even if it's yourself just not to die.

[Pookie]

I have been less than active this week and I apologize.  It's been a nasty week all around with a house full of company, a trip coming up tomorrow, and a stomach flu making its way around the house.  It's been all I can do to keep up reading some days.  I should still be able to log on and participate while I'm away from home the next week.  We're visiting my brother-in-law in Michigan.  Just pray I'm not using those little bags on the plane.  :(

 

This particular day phase I didn't vote in part because I've been working on a few ideas that haven't quite figured themselves out yet and in part because I had two people I was considering on different ends of the last lynch.  I  ALWAYS think Anox is scum.  Without fail.  So with her I tend to be more cautious before I toss a vote and by the time I saw day 4's start, she was up to the hammer vote.  With Anox I didn't feel comfortable being the hammer, silly as that may seem.  Anox flipping scum has made me less suspicious of the other person I was looking at for now.

 

In my reread I was particularly looking at ends of phases.  I also spent some time reading some Who wikis since I'm not up to speed on the show.  I can't say it's offered much more clarity, but it gave me a few other things to think about.

 

The not-innocents dead:  Queen Victoria, 2 Daleks, Lonely Assassin, Agitha Christie, and Madam Torchwood, plus Anox's role to be added.

 

Quotes from a Doctor Who Wiki:

He apparently succumbed to old age (among other possible factors) after his first meeting with the Cybermen, stating that "this old body is wearing a bit thin."

Meets the Cybermen for the first time, an encounter that physically drains the increasingly frail Doctor.

 

Those two quotes say the same thing different ways, but to me combined they say that our NK each night is performed by the Cybermen.  I think this is backed up by the fact that the night 1 end of night post said "The aliens only kill when we are asleep" and by the fact that our NKs all wither away to death.  However, Nae saw DPR recruiting, so that would mean the Cybermen team would include both a NK and a recruit.  It's not one or the other because she saw him recruit night 1 and we had an aging death night 1.  What doesn't make sense with this is that Al Jenn, one of the daleks, did the aging death thing.  It's possible that his NK was reflected, but that's about all I can think of to explain it.

 

Queen Victoria and Madam Torchwood also have a connection in the series.  I still think the werewolf scene was a result of the Queen's death, but I'm not sure how Al Jenn's day 2 responses play into my overall ideas.  I think the Queen and Madam were either a Mentor/Mentee pairing (SK team) or a second mafia.

 

I believe that Aemon was recruited.  I'm leaning towards believing this was either night 2 or a day recruit, though I suppose it's possible it was a night 3 recruit that was turned in before the action to NK him.  However, he wasn't recruited by the team with the withering death.  So this makes me wonder if we have 2 recruiting factions. 

 

I'm still processing the bloody death of Torchwood.

 

This all would make a lot more sense to me if the methods of death of Torchwood and Christie were swapped.  :P

 

I haven't figured out where to place the Lonely Assassin yet.

 

I don't know if anyone else finds this kind of thing helpful, but I like to try and deconstruct games to see if I can figure out what we're still up against.  I'll be reading through again with a closer look at action around Tigs and day three for Aemon.

[Wayward_fool]

POOOKSIES!!! *snuggles*

[Aust]

I hope you feel better Pookie!! And that you have a nice trip. Pulling all that info together like that was helpful too, so thanks for doing that :D

 

 

[LilyElizabeth]

Yes, Pookie, thanks for doing that. I can release the info that Anox was a Cyberman, now that I have some idea of what that means. That would be because of you, hon, so pat yourself on the back.

 

Have a safe and healthy trip.

[Red2111]

Verbal is listed as a lone assassin that would indicate SK.

 

actually Pete and Lily only give us the "innocent" or "not innocent" when a person is lynched or nk'd.

 

and seeing that your alignement came up as "not innocent"  ;D

[Pookie]

The Lonely Assassin is still the only piece I don't feel like I can tie up with a neat little bow. 

 

Another wiki quote:

... "the only psychopaths in the universe to kill you nicely", because their method of killing doesn't do anything of the sort: a touch sends their victims into the past to live out their lives before they were even born; the Angels then feed on the "potential energy" of the lives their victims would have lived in the present.

 

I'm trying to keep my games straight... any freezes before Verbal's death?  Power stealing?  Vote stealing?  (If he actually was a psychopath, the psychiatrist shouldn't reveal.)  He could have been a SK with a delayed or percentage kill, but at the moment I'm leaning towards believing he has one of Pete's twisted roles that I'm not going to be able to guess at or find in a wiki.  ;)  He might also have had the win condition of just surviving to end game but not being attached to a faction so he could "feed off the game activity" or some such.

 

Totally unrelated, but I found this:

The Usurper is a normal Goon whose additional objective is to get the Godfather killed. He loses if the Godfather survives.

... when I was looking at the mafiascum wiki and have to say this role tickles me.  :)

 

Anox's role is making me believe more that the Daleks (DPR, Anox, Al Jenn, ?) were a recruiting mafia.  Based on the other non-innocents we've had show up, I think the recruit probably didn't have a back-up and may have had a success percentage.  I believe more firmly that Al Jenn was killed due to a reflected NK.  (My thanks to someone if my guess is right that he was aiming for me (based on his call for me to be killed right before end of night results.))

 

I think the werewolves (the Queen, Torchwood) were a cult.  I think their night target had a chance of being recruited and a chance of being killed.  I think they lost their night 1 recruit due to MCS's death.  They may have gotten a day 2 recruit from "the weird thing" or Al Jenn might have been a potential recruit if we hadn't foiled it.  I think Aemon was their night 2 recruit.  Unless they hit someone else with the potential day 2 recruit (Aemon did post in the window between the "nth post" announcement and the werewolf scene so someone else might have been the night 2 recruit), then the cult may be gone.  I think Tigs was caught by the reflector.  Ed's dead and had vig kills.  I'm not sure how many more of those we'd have.

 

My guess is that we're looking for one more scum.  Maybe two if Aemon being recruited was the "weird thing" and the wolves had a night 2 recruit.  That would have us starting with 3 dalek mafia, 2 werewolf cult, and the lonely assassin (6 of 20).  I think it most likely that the only person we're still looking for is DPR's night 1 recruit, unless Verbal's PR was a result of an attempted recruit.  If that is the case then I would think either we're still after 1 werewolf recruit or DPR's recruit went to a back-up scum.

[Liathiana]

I'm lost, what reflector? Or are you referring to me?

 

But yes! for catching scum. ;D

[dapianoplay3r]

[glow=red,2,300]anox[/glow]