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It's the yr of the Tiger, 4708!

;)

 

Check out this site for cool info and activities: http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/

 

Year of the Tiger Messages

 

zhù nǐ/nín 祝你/您… = Wishing you…

 

  1. hǔ nián kuàilè 虎年快乐 = Happy Year of the Tiger

  2. hǔ nián jíxiáng 虎年吉祥 = Have a lucky Year of the Tiger

  3. hǔ nián xíng dà yùn 虎年行大运 = May the Year of the Tiger bring you great luck

  4. xīhǔ zhù nín hǔ nián wàng 犀虎祝您虎年旺 = May the rhinoceros-tiger bring you a prosperous Year of the Tiger*

 

Standard New Year’s Greetings

  1. dà jí dà lì 大吉大利 = Good luck and good profit (see also New Year’s puns)

  2. gōnghè xīnxǐ 恭贺新喜 = Happy New Year

  3. gōngxǐ fācái 恭喜发财 = get rich

  4. guò nián hǎo 过年好 = Happy New Year

  5. jiā hé wàn shì xīng 家和万事兴 = If the family lives in harmony, all affairs will prosper

  6. niánnián gāoshēng 年年高升 = get a promotion every year

  7. shēntǐ jiànkāng 身体健康 = have good health

  8. shìshì rúyì 事事如意 = everything go according to your wishes

  9. shìshì shùnlì 事事順利 = everything go smoothly

  10. wànshì rúyì 万事如意 = all your wishes come true

  11. xīnnián kuàilè 新年快乐 = Happy New Year

 

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Since my baby will be born in this yr (my husband is also a Tiger, isnt that funny?), I looked up the characteristics of what my baby could be like. Check it out:

 

THE TIGER CHILD

 

A Tiger child could be a bundle of joy and a holy terror at the same time. A little live wire who dashes about sparkling with activity, he will throw himself into the thick of things. Even a very quiet one will know exactly where the action is and make a bee line for it.

 

He is a charming, bright and self-confident chatterbox, and there will be no holding him back. His insatiable curiosity and inquisitiveness will lead him to pounce at anything that moves, and he will get into all sorts of predicaments. Hyperactive and high strung, he likes romping, screaming and rough play.

 

Like the Dragon, he may also bully those less aggressive into submission. But people will also be naturally drawn to him by his warm, affectionate and gregarious character.

 

The Tiger child will express his feelings outright. You will have to put up with his strong opinions on how things should be run and he will air his views without hesitation. He doesn't like anyone to keep secrets from him and he himself is poor at keeping them.

 

Since he does not bottle up his emotions, you will know immediately when something is troubling him. Just be sure he is given enough outlets to release his pent-up energy.

 

If the Tiger's assertiveness is unchecked, he could dominate his parents completely and turn into a dreadful brat. He should be taught to hold his temperamental character in check early, as well as to listen to reason and understand the values of compromise. But the little rebel won't just take your word for it. He won't be himself if he does not keep testing the boundaries and limits set for him. It will be no mean task making him toe the line. But the earlier he realizes who is boss, the better for him and everyone else around.

 

However, if he is given the proper stimuli of discipline, coupled with love, warmth and loads of understanding, no other child will respond as spontaneously as the lovable little Tiger. Life may not always run smoothly with him around, but then it would be all too empty without him. Having a Tiger child will be a reward in itself.

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Lol, Mysty - it just means you have a few more yrs before it's your animal's turn to come round again!  ;D

 

You know, Chinese people still give their age by saying what animal they're born under. By a quick mental calculation you can tell immediately how old someone is. The kicker is if they're like me -- born in January before the New Yr has begun, so you may be off a yr or two if you just ask the animal. But, to the Chinese it doesnt matter cuz to them the New Yr doesnt come til they celebrate it --- therefore, today's the first day of 2010 to them!!!  ;)

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I'm a snake because my birthday is in early January and that means New yr hasnt yet come. Otherwise, I'd be a Horse.

 

Here are some brief characteristics of the animals, since I think most of you didnt go to the link to check, lols. But you WILL have to click the link to see the rest of the descriptions. There's just too much to copy and paste.

 

Rat

 

1924, 1936, 1948, 1960, 1972, 1984, 1996, 2008

 

You are ambitious yet honest, prone to spend freely. Seldom make lasting friendships. Most compatible with Dragons and Monkeys. Least compatible with the horses. More...

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Ox

 

1925, 1937, 1949, 1961, 1973, 1985, 1997, 2009

 

Bright, patient and inspiring to others, you can be happy by yourself, yet make an outstanding parent. Marry a Snake or a Rooster. The Sheep will bring you trouble. More...

http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

 

Tiger

 

1926, 1938, 1950, 1962, 1974, 1986, 1998, 2010

 

Tiger people are aggressive, courageous, candid and sensitive. Look to the Horse and the Dog for your happiness. But beware of the Monkey. More... http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

 

Rabbit

 

1927, 1939, 1951, 1963, 1975, 1987, 1999, 2011

 

Luckiest of all signs, you are also talented and articulate. Affectionate, yet shy, you seek peace throughout your life. So marry a Sheep or a Boar. Your opposite is the Rooster. More... http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

 

Dragon

 

1928, 1940, 1952, 1964, 1976, 1988, 2000, 2012

 

You are eccentric and your life is complex. You have a very passionate nature and abundant health. Marry a Monkey or Rat late in life. Avoid the Dog. More... http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

 

Snake

 

1929, 1941, 1953, 1965, 1977, 1989, 2001, 2013

 

You are wise and intense with a tendency towards physical beauty, vain and high tempered. The Boar is your enemy. The Rooster and Ox are your best signs. More... http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

 

Horse

 

1930, 1942, 1954, 1966, 1978, 1990, 2002, 2014

 

Popular and attractive to the opposite sex, you are often ostentatious and impatient. You need people. Marry a Tiger or a Dog early, but never a Rat. More... http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

 

Sheep

 

1931, 1943, 1955, 1967, 1979, 1991, 2003, 2015

 

Elegant and creative, you are timid and prefer anonymity. You are most compatible with the Boars and the Rabbits, but never the Ox. More...

http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

Monkey

 

1932, 1944, 1956, 1968, 1980, 1992, 2004, 2016

 

You are very intelligent and are able to influence people. An enthusiastic achiever, you are easily discouraged and confused. Avoid the Tigers. Seek a Dragon or Rat. More... http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

 

Rooster

 

1933, 1945, 1957, 1969, 1981, 1993, 2005, 2017

 

A pioneer in spirit, you are devoted to work and quest after knowledge. You are selfish and eccentric. Rabbits are trouble for you. Snakes and Ox are fine. More... http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

 

Dog

 

1934, 1946, 1958, 1970, 1982, 1994, 2006, 2018

 

Loyal and honest, you work well with others. You are generous yet stubborn, and often selfish. Look to the Horse or Tiger. And watch out for Dragons. More... http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

 

Pig

 

1935, 1947, 1959, 1971, 1983, 1995, 2007, 2019

 

Nobel and chivalrous. Your friends will be life long, yet you are prone to marital strife. You should avoid other Boars. Marry a Rabbit or a Sheep. More... http://www.theholidayspot.com/chinese_new_year/zodiacs.htm

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I thought some might like this. I'm a Rabbit/Aries. A little conflict between those two *Shrugs*

 

Aries (21 March-20 April)

Taurus (21 April-21 May)

Gemini (22 May-21 June)

Cancer (22 June-22 July)

Leo (23 July-22 August)

Virgo (23 August-21 September)

Libra (22 September-22 October)

Scorpio (23 October-21 November)

Sagittarius (22 November-21 December)

Capricorn (22 December-20 January)

Aquarius (21 January-19 February)

Pisces (20 February-20 March)

 

 

Aries

 

General Description

The pointed face and horns of the ram is quite apt for the Aries person. They can batter their way into things, especially in youth. Their expression and presence is quite direct without much subtlety. However, they can be true pioneers, forging their way through life with courage, initiative and enterprise. Arians can be adventurous, self-expressive and open, but not always sensitive to other people's feelings.

 

A sedentary life-style can inhibit the aforementioned natural traits, and in some cases invoke a violent reaction.

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

A whirlwind approach leaving disaster behind. Headstrong, domineering, quick tempered, impulsive, sarcastic, rebellious, violent, intolerant, arrogant, self centered, impatient, brusque, selfish, reactive.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Freedom-loving, courageous and pioneering. Inspirational, courageous, eager, spontaneous, competitive, enthusiastic, dynamic, realistic, quick-witted.

 

Spiritual Inference

The balance of independence and new growth, in learning to discover things for yourself, and about yourself. There is often the need to adjust to the influence and needs of others--through inspired patience.

 

Taurus

 

General Description

This glyph clearly suggests the bull's head and horns. Taurus essentially places a strong emphasis on trust. They appreciate friends and neighbors and are usually quite hospitable. Although normally slow to anger, all hell can break loose when it is released, and can stubbornly brood for some time afterwards. Taureans can be affectionate, but with a high degree of possessiveness, because security is extremely important. Although persistent by nature, activities are often performed more slowly than other signs. There can be a love of nature and personal possessions.

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Possessive, jealous, obsessed with routines, fixed in opinions, stubborn. Self-indulgent, vain, lazy, greedy, materialistic, boring, argumentative, short-tempered. Excessive expectation of others.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Trustworthy, warm, sensuous, a firm sense of values. Perseverance, reliability, patient, conservative, domestic, thorough, stable, dependable, practical, artistic, loyal.

 

Spiritual Inference

The need to attain an appropriate level of productivity and the balanced search for value and meaning in your life.

 

Gemini

 

General Description

The roman numeral two glyph represents the duality of this sign. This duality is often expressed through their two hands, arms, feet, and lungs. This sign is rather youthful, inquisitive, superficially sociable, talkative, and often fleet-of-foot. This airy, mutable sign tends to produce a talkative, yet changeable personality. The mind can be alert, often seeking knowledge in order to stimulate the brain. Many Gemini's require a lot of movement, even in their work. They can be coolly affectionate, unless their emotions run deep from some Scorpio/Pluto energy.

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Inconsistent, superficial, high strung, a nag, lacking empathy, impatient, changeable, ungrateful, scatterbrained, restless, scheming, lacking in concentration and follow through.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Adaptable, versatile, freedom loving, quick mind, inquisitive, dual, congenial, curious, expressive, intelligent, quick-witted, lively, literary, inventive, dexterous, clever.

 

Spiritual Inference

The need to channel your curiosity to allow for growth, and to bridge the surface conscious and higher mind.

 

Cancer

 

General Description

This glyph represents nurturing cradling arms, and the sign depicts the symbol of the crab in that it appears hard on the surface, yet is easily hurt underneath. Thus the Cancerian will portray a tough exterior, but inside they are extremely sensitive. They often act in an emotional way that a crab acts physically. When hurt, because of being easily provoked, they wander off sideways, although they can unexpectedly snap out. As a water sign, and ruled by the Moon, it projects sensitive and emotional traits. There is also nostalgia, feelings of security, patriotism, and a tenacious attachment to someone or something. Loyal and trusting, they hate to be let down. Any negative traits tend to emanate from vital needs not being met. Cancer represents the embodiment of traditionally strong, nurturing, supportive families. Thus, a greater reliance on institutional welfare, is the antithesis of what Cancer is all about. Cancer, like Virgo, tend to be the worry-warts of the zodiac!

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Overly sensitive, touchy, brooding, moody, lazy, and untidy. Too easily flattered, overly clinging, selfish manipulation, too cautious, self pitying, worrying, clannish.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Kind, sensitive, tenacious, shrewd, a strong maternal or paternal instinct, conscientious, sympathetic, intuitive, domestic, sensitive, retentive, helpful, emotional, good memory. Self-sacrificing and protective.

 

Spiritual Inference

The need to expand your nurturing instinct to include your spiritual growth. Much of this growth is often portrayed in house that the Sun is placed.

 

Leo

 

General Description

The Leo symbol portrays the curl of the lion's tail. This expression of energy seeks the pleasures in life, and Leo's proudly project themselves into the world. For some this projection is almost regal, as they desire to be in control of their environment. They love to perform, radiating warmth to those who show admiration and appreciation. Hence, there is often a strong need to give and receive love. In some cases, Leo will be the childish show-off, and be patronising in their affection. Much of Leo's self-expression will be colored by the house in which the Sun resides. However, if much of their life is subject to excessive snubbing and an ignoble existence, most of Leo's natural traits will evaporate.

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Dogmatic, pompous, intolerant, patronizing, domineering, inflexible, vain, status conscious, childish, fears ridicule, cruel, boastful, pretentious, autocratic.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Magnanimous, enthusiastic, loyal, affectionate, showman, ambitious, optimistic, idealistic, proud, creative, dignified, romantic, generous, self-assured.

 

Spiritual Inference

The need for personal development, and to acquire an inner peace with contentment through humility.

 

Virgo

 

General Description

The Virgo glyph symbolizes the feminine sexual parts--which is associated with perfection and purity. Its ruler, Mercury, is more practical in Virgo by providing dexterity through the hands. There tends to be a strong work ethic, a sense of duty and a need to serve others. It is not uncommon to find healers and massage therapists to have a dose of Virgo in their charts. This earth sign can be analytical, satirical, and rather critical. They value their personal space, and abhor uninvited guests. Resentfulness can easily occur by inattention to their wishes. Virgoans have a sense of pride in accomplishments, little patience with non-functional beauty and can be a quite a worry wart.

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Finicky, fussy, fastidious, skeptical, critical, intolerant, picky, petty, melancholy, self-centered, pedantic, fear of poverty, hypochondriac, sloppy.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Meticulous, methodical, studious, industrious, scientific, discriminating, fact-finding, exacting, reliable, thorough, analytical, tidy, clean, humane, seeks perfection.

 

Spiritual Inference

Re-channeling of nervous energies towards tolerance of self and others by analyzing your feelings.

 

Libra

 

General Description

The glyph symbolizes the beam of balancing scales. As a cardinal air sign, this can depict an out-going self-expression, and for some, an "active intellect." Ruled by Venus, this creates a need for harmony. If Venus is in this sign, they can be an artist, beauty specialist, diplomat or salesperson. Librians enjoy the company of people, music and theatrical events. There can be a longing to attract, inasmuch as they seem to fall in love with love.

 

It is not uncommon for those with strong Libra traits to be liberal in politics, providing Saturn is not too strong. Any indecisiveness that is portrayed by this sign is due to the fact that they easily see both sides of a situation. With decisiveness and an ability to see both sides is a quality significant in the charts of Judges. If Libra is subjected to loneliness, or an unpleasant environment, their natural traits will be stymied.

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Indecisive, flirtatious, gullible, self-indulgent, dependent, fickle, apathetic, peace at any price, moody, pouting, easily deterred, lazy.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Diplomatic, romantic, idealistic, sociable, helpful, charming, cooperative, persuasive, companionable, peace-loving, refined, judicial, artistic, diplomatic, suave.

 

Spiritual Inference

The need to attain balance with regard to the affairs of the house that the Sun is located. Also, the use of decisive intellect for self benefit and that of others.

 

Scorpio

 

General Description

The scorpion glyph with its coiled stinger tail represents the intensification and sudden release of energy. This is the only sign in the zodiac with three symbols--the scorpion, the serpent and the phoenix. The symbols represent, the satanic, the wise and the exalted--reflecting emotions that reach from hell to heaven. In essence, Scorpio is transformative--which is the ability to rise through the essence of the symbols.

 

It is said that there is no pain like Scorpio pain--simply because of the intense energy that often accompanies this sign. Such intensity can invoke quick reactions, rather than assessing situations. Even for those who do not have planets in Scorpio, this intense energy can be revealed through its ruling planet Pluto, and sometimes via the eighth house. The Pluto/Scorpio energy can create extreme emotional highs, and yet change to depressingly low levels. However, these low levels are more implosive than depressing in which the individual simply needs to recharge.

 

They love mysteries, and if Mercury is in Scorpio, there is a probing truth-behind-the-truth ability. It is hard to deceive Scorpio as they are highly intuitive. In love, they can be self-sacrificing, and if they are attracted to someone, they can be quite relentless until the relationship is consumed. Scorpio's are typically magnetic, quite serious, and highly intuitive. As the classic sex sign, they can be extremely sexy, where sex is the ultimate merging of two souls and sometimes provides a unique kundalini experience. Although a deep, physical need for sex is prevalent, it may be repressed and channeled elsewhere, particularly if Saturn is strong or in the eighth house.

 

Scorpio has often been classified as the hangman, butcher, warrior, investigator, psychologist, or saint. Some Scorpio's identify with the term "Warrior-Priest," particularly if Leo energy is present. They can generally keep a secret, often because they have to!

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Jealous, possessive, vindictive, stubborn, resentful, tyrannical, resentful, vengeful, temperamental, overbearing, violent, sarcastic, suspicious, intolerant.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Courageous, resourceful, intuitive, efficient, powerful feelings and emotions, ambitious, motivated, penetrating, executive, determined, scientific, investigative, probing, passionate, aware.

 

Spiritual Inference

The ability to rise through the elements of its symbols (through forgiveness) and to fulfill subconscious desires.

 

Sagittarius

 

General Description

The glyph is an arrow with part of the bow. Sagittarius has some things in common with its opposite sign Gemini, but it likes to take these interests further. Such interests may include travel, sports, or mental pursuits. Like most signs, there is one of two main expressions. One is sporty, restless, unreliable and dislikes details. The other is more evolved, leaning towards idealism, philanthropy, science, philosophy, etc. However, either nature tends to be somewhat restless.

 

Such restlessness is because of a need to seek out new experiences. Travel is not something to be planned, but to be experienced. In a philosophical or scientific sense, it is making an hypothesis and researching the outcome. Religion and law are other areas the profound Sagittarian may be involved. Like most fire signs, Sagittarius likes to tell it how it is.

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Boisterous, tactless, exaggerative, quarrelsome, dictatorial, changeable, blunt, procrastinator, pushy, self-indulgent, impatient, lacks repose, gambler, hot-headed.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Friendly, honest, versatile, optimistic, sincere, straightforward, philosophical, freedom-loving, broadminded, athletic, generous, just, scholarly, enthusiastic.

 

Spiritual Inference

The need to apply balance to the experiences of the house in which the Sun is located. Adapting your energies towards inspiration (in-spirit-creation) and wisdom by learning restraint and repose, in order to identify with the interaction of all things.

 

Capricorn

 

General Description

The sign of the sea-goat--which is symbolic of Capricorn's desire to either hermitize on a rough island mountain or seek freedom across the ocean of understanding. This can be portrayed in being either miserly, materialistic, stubborn, and defensive, to that of being disciplined, responsible, receptive, preserving, nature bound, and being open to the oneness of the universe.

 

Many Capricorn's are quite reserved, conservative and generally resilient, but their Achilles heel is to allow for the most trivial worry and pessimism to grow like a cancer in their psyche. While its opposite sign Cancer seeks comfort and security through their immediate surroundings, Capricorn widens this field towards activities and ambition in the outer world. They are usually careful, methodical and like to plan events. Mistakes occur rarely, but in the event they do, there is difficulty in perceiving what went wrong.

 

The ruler Saturn can sometimes influence a cold, rigid and mean element, yet Capricorn is generally dependable in a crisis. This rigidness and dependability can sometimes place them in positions of leadership. While Capricorn's rely on a few loyal friends, they can sometimes expect more loyalty from others than they are prepared to give or show. Any insecurity is normally based on a fear of being without the main essentials. As with all earth signs, too much emphasis is placed on trust, rather than the development of inherent instinct.

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Rigid, intolerant, self-absorbed, stoic, mean, suspicious, pessimistic, fatalistic, brooding, inhibited, unforgiving, domineering, egotistical, status-seeker, materialistic.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Patient, prudent, ambitious, honourable, reliable, efficient, serious, responsible, cautious, traditional, conventional, business-like, practical, perfectionist, hardworking.

 

Spiritual Inference

The quest to follow one's spiritual path; confront reality and discover its true nature; and experience unselfish love.

 

Aquarius

 

General Description

The glyph of this sign is the man with the urn or water, or water-bearer. This symbol leads many Astrology initiates to perceive Aquarius as a water sign, whereas its true element is air. The action of pouring water from the urn, depicts the fountain of knowledge that is to be shared with humanity. While it's opposite sign Leo prefers to be personally creative, Aquarius tends to be more worldly and inventive. This is because they are focused with humanity rather while Leo has an individualized emphasis.

 

One type of Aquarian wants to invoke change into politics, science, and teaching by establishing friendship with communities and nations ("We-are-the-world"). The other type can be radical, rebellious and shock provoking. Aquarians are often more comfortable with friendships than with intimate love, which is primarily due to their fixed mode and being an element of air. The way to appeal to an Aquarian is through the heart, and not the emotions.

 

Much of the aforementioned applies with Uranus being the influential ruler. There are some Aquarians who appear to be more influenced by its co-ruler, Saturn, and this can create a rather different picture. Such individuals are less inventive and technical, and more stoic and political. Eccentricity and a bohemian nature is one of the extreme Uranus influences.

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Absentminded, reclusive, eccentric, perverse, fixed opinions, detached, tacky, unpredictable, temperamental, bored by detail, cold, exploitive, radical, impersonal, rebellious.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Broadminded, idealistic, inventive, helpful, original, intuitive, independent, tolerant, individualistic, progressive, creative, scientific, logical, humane, intellectual, altruistic.

 

Spiritual Inference

The need to reform, and integrate warm feelings to project your worldly quest.

 

Pisces

 

General Description

The sign of two fishes--with one fish representing the physical being and the other the spiritual essence. Linked by a silver cord, this represents a human being animated by the soul. Due to the distinct separation between the physical and non-physical realms, Pisces does not usually integrate well into physical realities. Thus, they appear, vague, dreamy, nebulous and impressionable. In excess, there is delusion and deception. Its ruler, Neptune, has a strong influence, which creates a veil between the ego and a union with higher dimensions.

 

Impatient, arrogant, and insensitive individuals often inflict much suffering to many Pisceans, as the true qualities and gifts of this sign are not understood. As a result, many Pisceans become dejected and insecure. However, there tends to be a natural self sacrifice and selfless nature that is connected with their compassion and sympathy.

 

The fairy-tale character, Cinderella, represents an archetype for certain feminine personalities. Of all the water signs, Pisces is probably the most sensitive, and if an effort is not made to break the veil of illusion between this world and other worlds, their life can be very unhappy. Pisces must be loved and hugged to feel comfortable. On a high level evolutionary cycle, Jesus had six planets in Pisces.

 

Challenging Traits/Keywords

Vague, careless, confused, indecisive, procrastinating, self-pitying, overly sensitive, melancholy, pessimistic, emotionally inhibited, timid, impractical, indolent, feels misunderstood, the martyr.

 

Beneficial Traits/Keywords

Very psychic, compassionate, self-sacrificing, humble, kind, industrious, charitable, sympathetic, empathic, emotional, intuitive, messianic, musical, artistic.

 

Spiritual Inference

The need to acquire faith and perseverance in yourself and form a spiritual unity with that of the conscious mind (i.e. break down the veil between realities).

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This was rather interesting to read. I fall on the cusp of two.

 

Cancer and Leo and I am a Horse on the side.

 

In comparing the two signs, I can definitely see myself as a mix of these, both the good and the bad.

 

Leo and the Horse zodiac seem to have a lot of similar traits it seems.

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