Who knows the song?

[SqueeEGA]

personally I think its Rand/LTT who teaches the Tinkers the song.  They are an offshoot of the people of the dragon...I wonder if that melody he hums when pulling his earlobe while looking at a pretty girl is related to it at all?  probably not, but it would be somewhat amusing.

 

Are there any other candidates or other opinions on the matter?

[Majsju]

I do not think the Song exists, but is rather a symbol for what hwas been lost. Different kinds of singing where important during the AOL, and over the years this has transformed into a mythical "song".

[Darth_Andrea]

The song will be found, Rand is gonna need Ogier and Aielmen and Tinkers in TG I think that some form of Seed Singing will be needed to close the bore.

 

 

 

Darth_Andrea       

[Duneflayer]

i agree with Majsju i think thats its a symbo, or prhaps it did once exist but it was lost during the breaking

[Besolyn]

Rand has sang the song. When he went through the Aiel clan chief testing one of his ancestors sang the song. He watched the whole process of Ogier-Aiel-Nymh growing the fields.

 

Not saying it WILL be him, just as far as we know he's the only one living excepting the Forsaken that has actually heard the complete song. There is also the chance that enough Wise Ones or Clan Chiefs remember from their testing. Or maybe each will remember enough to piece it together.

 

I agree that it may have become just a symbol even if it is remembered, since Somestha was the last Nymh.

[lordofsoup]

does it really matter, even if u tell the tinkers their relation to the Aiel they will either not believe it or they will just keep doing whatever they do and search for the song. 

[SqueeEGA]

i hope they sing the song in the blight and the inadvertently raise someshta from the dead.  That would be super pleasing.

 

And Andrea, I like that idea of them singing the bore shut.  That would be an awesome scene.

[lordofsoup]

what about that ter'angreal aviendha found that it activated by singing

[SqueeEGA]

maybe if you sing to it the appropriate song it turns into a +3 Heartstone Harp of shadow slaying...seriously, what about it?

[Majsju]

what about that ter'angreal aviendha found that it activated by singing

 

That one sounds an awful lot like the Talisman of Growing, which was given to the Ogier so they could continue growing the Ways.

[Duneflayer]

which bookwas that in again

[Mr Ares]

The song will be found, Rand is gonna need Ogier and Aielmen and Tinkers in TG I think that some form of Seed Singing will be needed to close the bore.

You think something for growing seeds into really big plants will be useful in sealing the Bore?

 

Rand has sang the song. When he went through the Aiel clan chief testing one of his ancestors sang the song. He watched the whole process of Ogier-Aiel-Nymh growing the fields.

But unless he has the Talent it won't do him any good, nor will he be able to share it.

[ROB_88]

maybe the Bore takes physical form as a hole during the end, and Rand and the Ogiers sing to grow a big-ass tree right in the middle of it, thereby closing the Bore :)

[GrandpaG]

No, I have no proof.

Just gut instinct.

 

Because Loial sang to the Green Man's tree, his spirit/essence is still available...I don't think he is totally out of the picture yet...kinda taking an extended nap in the middle of the Blight.  The Nym actually caused the sung crops to sprout in the fields.  If this practice is to be revived, the Nym will have to be awakened from his nap.

 

The Tinkers and the Aiel will somehow enter the glass columns, perhaps in pairs feeding off from each other's strengths, and emerge as Jenn Aiel knowing how to assist the Ogier in singing the song for the Nym.  This might take a while to happen.  The Tinkers have to stumble upon Rhuidean.  They have to hear Rand's story.  One brave pair will have to get it all started.  Once a few pairs have emerged as Jenn, it will likely go as fast as Tinkers can be found for escorts.  Sorting out the "full blooded" Tinkers from the diluted ones might be tricky.  Short of something along this line taking place, I don't see the "song" being rediscovered.

 

Also, remember the thousands of Aiel lined up around the city singing to try to keep it from being destroyed?  That part of the song will also be remembered and could be a determining factor at TG.

 

Just a crazy old guy once again spreading his poisonous opinion.  :)

 

 

[Mr Ares]

Also, remember the thousands of Aiel lined up around the city singing to try to keep it from being destroyed? That part of the song will also be remembered and could be a determining factor at TG.

The part where they stand around, get massacred, and the city is destroyed anyway because they weren't using a magic song this time? Does the Light sing until the Trollocs get bored with killing?

 

Just a crazy old guy once again spreading his poisonous opinion. :)

You're not as crazy as me, you're not as old as me, and your opinions are not as poisonous as mine.

[Cockta]

I have something Mr Ares does not have, what could that be???

 

PESKYNESS!!!11!!!!!!ONE!!!1!!1

[Dbob]

It would be neat to have the tinkers sing the green man back to life, but if that’s going to happen – I’d think the Ogier would be more likely candidates. Plus we don’t know that the green man’s “essence” or whatever you want to call it actually exists as such anymore. Anyway weren’t the Nym created by the Aes Sedai back in the AoL?

 

I also like the idea of the tinkers somehow being involved in the sealing of the bore, but I don’t think that’s very likely either.

 

I think that the Aiel (those that are left) will have to give up their spears, and the tinker will have to give up their hunt, and both will go back to serve like they did in the AoL, sort of a full circle kind of thingy.

 

[Cockta]

Isn't the Green Man a Nym or something?

[GrandpaG]

He's the last of his kind that I know of.

 

Since the wonder girls are making marvelous new discoveries, maybe they will learn how the Nym were created in the Age of Legends?  ::)

[Hybrid]

I agree with Majsju here.  The growing song of the Aiel/Ogier/Nym would not bring the AOL back as the Tinkers believe.  I think that their familiarity with singing evolved into a belief that there was a Song which could make the world right.  And I highly doubt the Song, or any other kind of song, is going to play a part in the sealing of the Bore.

[mcs0083]

Who would win in a fight?

The Green Man or Tree Beard? lol

[Matrim DeLaneous]

I can't remember the specific thread, but I brought up the Song and it's potential role in the end and/or TG.  Consistent with this thread, I was tactfully hammered by Mr. Ares & the forum.  But reading Brandon Sanderson's comments that we're in for some very big surprises, and everything's been foreshadowed, I'm still not convinced I'm wrong.  There are too many references to Song or "the song", and who says is has to be the Seed Song.  Where is it written that the srenghth / magic of the song doesn't pre date the AOL's. 

 

The game of snakes & foxes makes reference to Iron, Music, Light.

 

Matt's visits to the A & E include questions about Iron, Music, Light

 

The Aelfin & Elfin (sp) pre date the AOL's, which must prove that the strength of music must pre date the AOL's and the seed song

 

The AOL Aiel tried Song to stop the mad Aies Sedai, and I'm quite certain it wasn't the seed song or RJ would likely have mentioned it.

 

Not saying a song will result in THE END, but it may (Must) play some kind of role. 

 

 

[Besolyn]

Rand has sang the song. When he went through the Aiel clan chief testing one of his ancestors sang the song. He watched the whole process of Ogier-Aiel-Nymh growing the fields.

But unless he has the Talent it won't do him any good, nor will he be able to share it.

 

The perspective we had of Rand's ancestor stated that he'd been tested and found lacking for Aes Sedai training (for which he was grateful), but he was excited to finally be "old enough" to join the men singing in the fields. Nothing is said about needing Talent.

 

That's why I think Rand or any others that went through the clan chief testing and saw that far back would have a good chance of putting the song together.

[Thor]

Who would win in a fight?

The Green Man or Tree Beard? lol

 

green man wins, tree beard will just get spored.

[mcs0083]

HAH!

To true. Besides, Ents don't really have any magic in them. They can just punch things and throw boulders.