whos gonna tell rand

[triadruid]

There's still a lot of possibilities, though, that avoid literal quadruplets. Remember the Aiel weave that allows people to become siblings; if something was to happen to Elayne, it's conceivable _{(hur, hur)} that Avi would become their mother in more than just name.

 

That said, I'm pretty sure all of this will be post-AMOL and happen off-screen. I shudder to think of the nerfing RJ would have done to Aviendha's character if she became pregnant, after seeing what happened to Elayne.

[GrandpaG]

i wonder how LTT will react about having a biological legacy again

 

:o

Holy CRAP!!!

:o

 

The whole Rand/Elayne thing never bothered me until I read this.  Kinslayer could imagine that the kids are of his bloodline and have to be destroyed.  CRAP!!!  :o

I wonder if RJ set this all up on purpose and you just stumbled onto it.  Certainly would be a fine piece of writing.  CRAP!!!  :o

Those babies might be better off if everyone continues to think that they belong to the Guard Captain. * nods *

[trakand_01]

And btw, Min never said anything was odd with the children, she said something was odd with that, which seems to rather refer to the situation of giving birth. For example, perhaps where the birth takes place.

 

Considering the 'modern' things that they are currently inventing (such as the steam locomotive), and the advances that Nynaeve, Flinn and others are making in the medical arena, coupled with the fact that Aviendha (not a massive woman) will have quads, I wouldnt be at all surprised if Aviendha was the first woman to undergo what we know of as a cesearean birth.

[jaldy3]

 

 

It doesn't matter when Avi adopts Elayne's kids, it could be ten years after TG because Min's viewings don't have a time frame. As long as at some point Elayne died and Avi adopted the twins then Min's viewing would be correct. And there would be something odd about that situation Avi being mother to two kids who weren't her own as such, but no there wouldn't be anything odd with the children themselves. It makes perfect sense to me.

 

Why does Elayne have to die? Can't Avi adopt her first sisters kids as an additional confirmation of their unique relationship.

[Luckers]

Considering the 'modern' things that they are currently inventing (such as the steam locomotive), and the advances that Nynaeve, Flinn and others are making in the medical arena, coupled with the fact that Aviendha (not a massive woman) will have quads, I wouldnt be at all surprised if Aviendha was the first woman to undergo what we know of as a cesearean birth.

 

Keep in mind though that Nynaeve and Flinn's methods involve healing with the power, any use of such would kill the babies.

[Reiver]

"Twice dawns the day when his blood is shed.

Once for mourning, once for birth.

Red on black, the Dragon's blood stains the rock of Shayol Ghul.

In the Pit of Doom shall his blood free men from the Shadow."

 

Ever since reading that (in TGH) i've always wondered about his "blood" and whether that blood would come from his own body or from that of his children. Elayne's pregnancy set that little niggling thought into overdrive.

[berk]

I find Rand's relationship with Avi and Elayne funny.

 

Avi: You secretly love me. I chase you through the snow, drag you out of a lake, and when you wake up I boink the buckler out of you. Now you love me but you won't talk to me. Continues for 5 books.

 

Elayne: I love you! I hate you! I love you! I ha- no wait, I still love you! I haven't seen you for 4 books! KNOCK ME UP, NOW!

 

 

At least Min stays with him - they have the closest thing to "normal" relationship. Personally, I'm not Elayne's biggest fan... I hope he sees more of Avi in AMoL. To quote from my "Character predictions" thread:

 

Rand teaches Aviendha to swim in the waterwood. She pees in the water.

[purplemonster]

am i like the only one that ever thought about avi's kids being able to channel, something odd about em channeling being not normal, for everyone?

 

i wonder what nyn might think about rand knocking up elayne,

[Reiver]

I believe she may sniff and fold her arms beneath her breasts to keep from tugging her braid. Then try to march them down the aisle.

[mb]

About telling Rand, to me Rand would not necessarily need to be spoken to for him to know.

I think Elayne's appearance would be all Rand would need to know she is pregnant.

For Rand to know he is the father, I think he could reason that out from remembering doing sex with her.

 

Too many seem to think that Elayne would die.  Nicola's Foretelling seems to indicate that each of Rand's 3 lovers would live.

Also, Elayne & Aviendha & Min would each need to live at their wedding for the prediction of Aviendha's sister wives (from Rhuidean's Arches) to come true.

 

[GrandpaG]

Logain could sense emotions through the bond with the Aes Sedai.

 

Can't Rand sense Elayne's pregnancy through their bond?  ::)

[Reiver]

He was never close enough to her to feel the emotions. It's described as just a dull presence or similar. The only time either of them seem to notice anything at distance is when Rand loses his hand.

[Mr Ares]

Ever since reading that (in TGH) i've always wondered about his "blood" and whether that blood would come from his own body or from that of his children. Elayne's pregnancy set that little niggling thought into overdrive.

I doubt there is long enough before TG for that.

[Jehaine]

...Going at this rate, anyone have the feeling that Rand's going to total out at 13 children when he kicks it? Especially since it seems to be a recurring number in the series?

 

Hell, if Min gets pregnant, he'll already have passed the halfway point!

[mb]

About Aviendha's children, I decide the literal quadruplets.

 

 

Can't Rand sense Elayne's pregnancy through their bond?  ::)

 

I am not entirely certain, but I think pregnancy cannot not be detected through a Warder bond.  I think the Warder bond can only detect these things::

-the other's emotions (though not whom the emotions are directed to)

-whether the other is hurt or not; and if hurt, the wounds/bruises/etc

-whether the other is alive or not

-the other's direction (if the bond is not muffled) and sort of the distance (by how strongly aware they are of the other)

 

 

...Going at this rate, anyone have the feeling that Rand's going to total out at 13 children when he kicks it? Especially since it seems to be a recurring number in the series?

 

That would be remarkable.

The only other person Rand would do sex with (besides Elayne and Aviendha) would be Min.

If the remainder is 7 (from Min) at once, that would be septuplets; which would be even more remarkable.

If Rand dies before getting Aviendha pregnant, that would point to Rand getting resurrected.

 

[pxnsolid]

Keep in mind though that Nynaeve and Flinn's methods involve healing with the power, any use of such would kill the babies.

 

maybe and maybe not. all of the healing that is said would kill a baby is the old healing, which uses the healee's strength. Nyn and Flinn both have healing capabilities that from whats been said takes strength from the healer/healed/both, depending on the healers choice. while i dont know if i agree with the idea of a c section per say, the healing wouldnt be a factor in my opinion.

[Mr Ares]

...Going at this rate, anyone have the feeling that Rand's going to total out at 13 children when he kicks it? Especially since it seems to be a recurring number in the series?

 

Hell, if Min gets pregnant, he'll already have passed the halfway point!

That would be remarkable.

The only other person Rand would do sex with (besides Elayne and Aviendha) would be Min.

If it is 7 at once, that would be septuplets; which would be even more remarkable.

If Rand dies before getting Aviendha pregnant, that would point to Rand getting resurrected.

7 at once? I don't think you quite read what Jehaine wrote. Elayne's 2, plus Avi's 4, plus at least one from Min =7, which is past halfway on the way to 13. Not seven ot once.

[Sabio]

He might feel some of the symptoms of her being pregnant but most likely not enough to know whats wrong.  Maybe he might get a feeling of her not feeling well or something, plus I think distance probably weakens what he feels.  Not to mention with 4 people in your head plus LT who knows how clearly he feels anything.

 

7 kids at once, Min would kill him.

[mb]

...Going at this rate, anyone have the feeling that Rand's going to total out at 13 children when he kicks it? Especially since it seems to be a recurring number in the series?

 

Hell, if Min gets pregnant, he'll already have passed the halfway point!

That would be remarkable.

The only other person Rand would do sex with (besides Elayne and Aviendha) would be Min.

If it is 7 at once, that would be septuplets; which would be even more remarkable.

If Rand dies before getting Aviendha pregnant, that would point to Rand getting resurrected.

7 at once? I don't think you quite read what Jehaine wrote. Elayne's 2, plus Avi's 4, plus at least one from Min =7, which is past halfway on the way to 13. Not seven ot once.

 

I meant 7 from Min which does bring the total to 13. 2 plus 4 equals 6; 13 minus 6 is 7.

I edited the comment.

 

[Mr Ares]

Hell, if Min gets pregnant, he'll already have passed the halfway point!

That would be remarkable.

If it is 7 at once, that would be septuplets; which would be even more remarkable.

7 at once? I don't think you quite read what Jehaine wrote. Elayne's 2, plus Avi's 4, plus at least one from Min =7, which is past halfway on the way to 13. Not seven ot once.

I meant 7 from Min which does bring the total to 13. 2 plus 4 equals 6; 13 minus 6 is 7.

I edited the comment.

But you missed Jehaine saying Min would bring it to past halfway, not all the way. You are the only one proposing septuplets. Your edit adds nothing.