Mafia - Star Wars vs Star Trek - GAME ON - Start Pg. 5

[Vemynal]

mafia

arsonist

innocent

healer (may I remind you i have an unchallenged claim)

special notice- I'm including moggy for two reasons...I think she is either a confirmed innocent or the arsonist otherwise she would never have have switched her vote from me to thorum. Mind there isn't enough evidence to lynch her for this so I really suggest we trust her as a innocent, or at the very least *not mafia aligned*.

 

Day 1

Blig Blog (10) - Vemy, Thorum, Moghedian, Jelly, Nephi, Korin, Verbal, Loki, Talya, May

Vemy (5) - Dark, Dae, Leelou, Blig Blog, Soyo

May (2) - Barm, Lorei

Not yet voting: FDM

 

 

Day 2

Vemy (5) - Dark, Barm, Thorum, Dae, May

Thorum (5) - Leelou, Korin, Vemy, Loki, moggy

Boyo (1)- Nephi

Not yet voting: Jelly, Verbal, Talya, Soyo, FDM

 

 

while I have many suspicions my instinct says [glow=red,2,300]FDM[/glow], lets also remember she hasn't voted (we have no data) and all mafia members have been inactive for the last day or so. She fits both of these perfectly. She also was  suspiciously defensive earlier to the point I've previously voted her.

[Daetirion]

*celebrates Mafia inactivity*

 

Yay no NK! unfortunately no info either >.<

 

Surprised if there is an Arsonist out there they didnt kill last night... im guessing its either proportional (50% or sommat) or Vemy managed to block successfully. Well either way, its good!

 

Still, accepting Vemy's position has put me in a bit of a dilemma. I have no idea who to vote for now! Was far too focussed on Vemy to pay all that much attention elsewhere. Going to have to reread properly before voting

[Mayleigh Aes Sedai]

Actually me voteing for vemy wasent bandwaggoning at all I had my own suspitions about him.

 

ok so I think its about time I expressed my suspistions.

 

1- Vemy although I do appreachate him trying to save newbies at the start of the game, and yes if he is innocent is good to have around I cant but help think that hes trying to hard to seem innocent which is something I wouldent expect from a player like him.

 

2- Notting in particular except she just seems a bit shifty to me dont know why she just does.

 

others Im still trying to get a handel on some people seem more evil then others but notting major so ill leav it at that!

 

just wanted to point that out!  ;D

[loki redfern]

but you didnt vote right then

[Mayleigh Aes Sedai]

no becouse It was between him and Jelly for me I needed to waigh up who i thought was more likely to be mafia and I decided on vemy it had notting to do with the fact that evryone else was voting for him that was not my motivation at all I simpley thought he was most likely to be maffia.

[SBoydW]

Dark and Daetirion both voted for vemy day one and day two.... coincidence or collusion? Though Vemy still has my suspicion... though it isn't as thick..

 

Though Nephi has also drawn my suspicion because she "random" voted when there were two very viable suspects on day two, one of which turned out to be mafia... and no my suspicion isn't because she voted me, it's because she voted me when there was a mafia team member on the block.

 

So for now... [glow=red,2,300]Nephi[/glow]

[Talya]

So we assume that the mafia were not around last night, or could it be that their NK was blocked!!! I know Vemy is the Firefighter...which is not the healer role...he can only save from the Arsonist..I think I'm correct there. Which means there is a proper healer out there somewhere (please DON'T come forward) and they could well have stopped the NK. Or the Mafia could have been inactive...*shrugs*

 

I wouldn't assume it was as Vemy said...unless I'm missing something :-\

 

 

[Guest Far Dareis Mai]

and all mafia members have been inactive for the last day or so.

 

Wait, what? Perhaps I'm misinterpreting you, but are you actually saying I've been inactive in the game? Please go back and read my posts, kthanks. :D And shame on you for metagaming (which isn't even accurate, btw as I had been active the entire day on DM).

 

I've already explained why I haven't been voting, and I don't really think it needs further explanation. In fact, the part where you almost got lynched due to the fact that people were just throwing out votes only presses my point futher that we need to watch how we vote. We got lucky with the Thorum lynch.

 

And again it may be just me, but the fact that you continue to ignore every one of my posts where I tell you I wasn't being defensive, but pointing out poor voting choice, is just a tad insulting dear. I mean, I'm totally okay with being accused, but at least have your facts accurate. :P

 

(may I remind you i have an unchallenged claim)

Which should absolutely stay that way. Healers shouldn't role reveal, another thing that is weird about your situation, especially since you didn't care about dying when you thought your role was useless. You said you were just trying to get people to vote, but again, highest voter dies anyway, and if you are innocent, you should really be playing to win, which your dying would not have helped in doing.

 

As for who seems suspect to me, let's take a look at patterns. Some people are only popping in to place a vote, and that is suspicious to me. I think those are the members that need to be looked at closer. If a person can find the time to place a random vote, but not actively particpate in discussion, they are either not really paying attention to the game, or they are afraid of giving something away. I'd rather have someone not vote, than jumping in, skimming through the last 4 pages, throwing out a vote with little reason, and popping back out until the next day action. Just my opinion, however.

[Guest nephitess]

Sorry Soyo if i seemed suspicious. I gave my reasons. I told Thorum i would not vote him until he gave more info...i kept my word. At the time i also felt that Vemy was innocent...why would i vote for someone who i thought was innocent?

 

I'm not sure what to think about Vemy at the moment...he is kinda ruining my confidence in him. LOL.

 

I'll continue to watch. *nods*

[Leelou]

ATM I have a few people on my list as to who I find suspicious, but I want to do a through re-read to find the exact points as to why I find them so. This weekend is the last weekend I'm working two jobs so don't be surprised if I'm scarce this weekend.

[Vemynal]

Far, you didn't post for a 12 hour period before the end of our night phase, thats what I mean by 'inactive', not that you've been inactive the whole game.

 

As for everyone just throwing out votes, I was almost lynched because people all agreed I was acting suspicious and not because they all decided to bandwagon.

 

though obviously some like may did ;D

 

I kid I kid!  ;)

 

& far, just as you kept saying that day 1 I was trying to rush the vote and i kept saying no i was trying to get the game moving? well that was your opinion on the situation day 1. And my opinion on your posts are that they are suspicious because they seem defensive to me, over reacting to a single vote. And if you choose to be insulted then I'm sorry but it doesn't change my opinion on the situation.

 

As for my role reveal fdm, I had to reveal or be lynched when i *know* there is an arsonist out there. I've known that there was a new arsonist out there since right after I made that post claiming right to lynch bcx at the end of this. And if the highest voter dies fdm, then why does it hurt if we get everyones opinion on the situation?

 

the best information we can take would be in we get votes on 4 people and choose the two we want to lynch. More information for vote analysis that way.

 

As for playing to win sometimes it helps not to struggle against the lynch but give out your thoughts on the situation and then let yourself be lynched so everyone knows the information can be trusted. That and the fact that I've basically been enrolled in 4 games now and dying in 1 or 2 doesn't bother me.

 

 

You've always been a slippery mafia to catch fdm and so far your my best candidate logically and intuitively.

[Guest nephitess]

day

[Moghedian]

Guys, I was tempted to vote for Nephi with this argument:

 

not to sure about Jelly, May. I think she may be innocent. Why do you feel she may evil?

I'm sorry guys I just don't agree that Vemy is evil. Vemy jumps around and is hasty sometimes, does not make him evil. I've seen him do this before. I can't remember what game but i know he has done this before. I have a feeling about him and it is that he is on the innocent team.

Defending those who could be possible mafia...

 

those who have played with me recently know i do not change my vote. I do that because i do not want to be accused of shiftiness. the only time i do change is if it is clear to me i have made a mistake. I will review your recent posts and go from there...I am not promising anything.

It seems to me that mafia would be extra careful not to be accused of shiftiness.

 

She was also constantly trying to defend both Thorum and Vemy.

 

However, she did vote for Thorum at one stage... :)

Yes i know there are a quite a few "not sure yet" thoughts in that list. but i did not want to leave anyone out. For now i'll vote Thorum

, I will change this if i feel i need to.

 

I think I'll leave my vote for now... :-\

[Guest nephitess]

Yes i did Defend Vemy....No i did not defend Thorum. go and look at the posts. *nods* you picked out the posts that worked for your reasoning. read them with out prejudgment.

 

Unless your mafia and trying to get me lynched. ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dark Justice]

well. I guess it makes me look pretty evil. Not being here, no nightkill. And the Vem vote.

However, Id like to say Im not evil..  >:( (id like to be a sith)

So In my book Vem is pretty much cleared from my suspitious list. I have a feeling about Jelly. But not enough to base a vote on.

So Ill hold mine.

[Dark Justice]

To live?

I dont know. Im not a doctor.

[Vemynal]

Day 3

 

FDM (1) - vem

May (1) - Loki

nephi (1) - boyo

DJ (1) - Jelly

 

not voting: Verbal, Talya, Nephi, FDM, Dark, Barm, Dae, Moghedian, May, Leelou, Korin

 

anyone wanna propose someone else? if not then let the lynching begin!

[Dark Justice]

well. Id say we should take me away from that list.  ;D

 

Anyway, I think people could still vote for whomever. Since there is gonna be a lynch anyway. As long as one has more votes than the other, its not gonna be random. (but random really helped us out last lynch. Didnt it?

[Korin Caylin]

I'm gonna wait before I vote. I'm not sure right now.

[Barmacral]

mmm... might be scarce the next couple of days, sister's moving back to school this weekend, plus I work.

 

Right now [glow=red,2,300]Nephi's[/glow] odd behavior, which has been stated multiple times pings my radar hard.

[Daetirion]

Read back through - can't quite see why May was pinging my Radar so for now ill just be keeping an eye. FDM seems a bit panicky when people suggest stuff, but that could just be legitimate reasoning - again not sure and again keeping my eye on them.

 

Both DJ and Jelly seem suspicious, although they're only cropping up since yester"Day". Im wondering if they're both Mafia actually - trying to make it seem like neither are, or there may be a split in the Mafia team - wondering if its something similar to that revealing episode of Alys vs Loki in NYC game.

 

And finally, [glow=red,2,300]Nephi[/glow] appears at the top of my suspicion list. Somethings up there definately. "Unless your mafia and trying to get me lynched" seems very pyschological to me - deliberately thrown in to try and throw off all suspicion, almost 'if you vote for me, you don't want to win' which is making me think its an almost perfect statement for a Mafia to hide behind.

 

Ok possibly a slight bit rambling on the details (and the spelling!) there. Still recovering, but feeling much better and half way through my antibiotic course. Yay, only 4 days till i can drink again!

[Mayleigh Aes Sedai]

ok so vemy is no longer pipping my raidar anymore bad vote on my part there!

 

Jelly is still up there for me tho for the same reasons i stated earlier!

 

and standing out now is nephi for the same reasons as everyone else but I dont want to jump on that band wagon to soon! so Im guna have a re read and vote later!

[Talya]

I really have no idea who is evil and who is not...I had some stuff written out, but I did it at work, and won't be back there till Tuesday (forgot to email it home). >:(

 

May seems to be a little sus, and I can't remember why. She was last on the vote for Blig Blog and Vemy (trying to push up the votes against her team mate Thorum?)

 

And I agree Nephi not going for Vemy nor Thorum on the last vote...why?

 

And Dark had gone for Vemy twice...though to be honest this makes me think more innocent than guilty...it's consistant. :-\

 

I'll go with [glow=red,2,300]May[/glow] at the moment

[Mayleigh Aes Sedai]

well not evry game jelly I think this is the second one!

 

And did I vote for Blig? I cant remember?

[loki redfern]

actually i believe they hug the people there going to kill to 'mark' them as the one ..kinda like a hug of death or judas's betrayal by a kiss i guess. perhaps thats where to know someone biblically comes from hmm