How I think it will end. (hopefully the biggest spoiler of them all)

[Random]

I have thought about this for quite some time and hear is some of my idees:

 

Rand will die in the last battle (wich will not in fact be the last battle because the wheel will go on spinning) but befor he is he will first have a little chat with the DO where he is told about DO´s plan to destroy the creation(including the forsaken) and is given the chance to continiue to exist as an almighty presens in the void (with of course the souls of his loved ones) insted of risking it all by throwing up a fight. Rand will of course refuse (since Cadsuane have tought him to be human) and start an simingly hopless fight with DO´s avatar Shadan haran how is much stronger then Rand even when Rand has the male half of choden kal.

 

During this fight Rand will realise that DO cant win, he/she/it can only trick the dragon to do the job for him and armed with this knowlege he will, using the DO´s own power (wich he can access because the DO wanted him to use them to destroy the world) to transport shayol ghul to a vakuol (bubbel of reality, separated from the creation) where he balefire the opening back 4000 years by combinding the true source (light) with DO´s power (darkness). I think this would work because saidin and saidar is more powerful combined due to there enternal struggle with each other so wouldent light and darkness combined be even better?

 

Thanks to the this the opening in Do´s prison will be as it were in AoL and DO will only keep a vauge feeling of defet because from his point of view he was never close to freedom (this way he will not have any inside info the next time he tries to break free).

 

Because of the vakuol (foreshadowed by Moghedien when she met Moridin) the weave is not effected and the "only" result will be that the blight starts to heal, all shadowspawn will fell like they where in a stedding since they cant feel the DO and everybody will be a tiny bit nicer of the same reason. This will give the forces of light (all the other good characters including seanchan) to winn their battle with the forsaken, the trollocs and so on.

 

Rand will make it back to the world but, because of his conection with DO, he will be about to fall back into DO´s prison and to save his imortal soul (dont remember her name, you know the freed damane) will "help him die", somthing that only she could/would.

 

As dead he will meat (the rests of) his creator and certain things will be explained, among those the fact that the creator sacreficed nerly all of his power to contain the DO (by creating the wheel of time) and thats the reason why the creation is so automatic. He will be given the choice to go directly to the dream world to rest or to go back to life, wich of course he does with the aid of  Nynaeve who heals his body and the creator who shows his soul the way. This event takes place at the vigil wich Min described in the first book and it is forshadowed by Moiraine after the battel in the stone of Tear (she told Rand that no one could heal death) and Nynaeves stubborn claim that everything should be posibble to heal.

 

The rest of the world thinks that Rand died a hero and stayed dead. The black and the white towers is made as one in Tar Valon using Elaidas palace to house the Ashamans (really ironic) and visiting wise ones, windfiners and others. This combined tower will be ruled by Egewne and Logain, that way Logain will(as Min said) "rise to a  glory no man would dream of",namly that of an Amyrlin.

 

Perrin and Fail becomes king and queen in Saldaea after the death of Fail cousin (foreshadowed, in a way, when the borderland royals talks about queen of saldaea not having any children) and still keeps control over the growing city wich Edmond´s field will become.

 

Mat takes the rests of the band of the red hand (and maybe the dragon legion too) and follows Tuon to reclaim Seanchan with the aid of gunpowder and Aes sedai (forshadowed in KoD when it was stated that Mat would need vast lands to support his privat army).

 

Well thats it. I hope it wont go this way because then the last book would hold nothing new for me (hehehe). ;)

 

So, what do you think?

 

[Random]

One importent thing I forgot: I also think that even if Moridin and Shadan haran is two completly different beings, they presumably shair one thread (Ishamaels/Moridins) because A:the DO dont seam to be able to influence the world without the aid of its inhabitants and B:We haven seen them toghether now have we?

 

And before someone points it out: Yes, I know that shayol ghul is´t closer to the opening than eny other place but it still seems to me like it´s the core of it all.

[Saidar]

Dude, sorry but no.

[bjclinton]

Dude, sorry but no.

[Mr Ares]

Rand will die in the last battle (wich will not in fact be the last battle because the wheel will go on spinning) but before he is he will first have a little chat with the DO where he is told about DO´s plan to destroy the creation(including the forsaken) and is given the chance to continiue to exist as an almighty presens in the void (with of course the souls of his loved ones) insted of risking it all by throwing up a fight. Rand will of course refuse (since Cadsuane have tought him to be human) and start an simingly hopless fight with DO´s avatar Shadan haran how is much stronger then Rand even when Rand has the male half of choden kal.

Why? Why any of this? Why would Shaidar Haran fight when he can block people from touching the Source? Why would Rand and Shai'tan (BBHN) chat? Oh yeah, agree on the Rand will die part, but that's a no-brainer - all these prophecies, he's bound to die in some way, but other than that it all just seems random (intended), cheap, unlike RJ (BBHPN) and ill thought out.

 

During this fight Rand will realise that DO can't win,

Why not?

he/she/it can only trick the dragon to do the job for him

Why?

and armed with this knowlege he will, using the DO´s own power (wich he can access because the DO wanted him to use them to destroy the world)

Why? Why would Shai'tan (BBHN) give Rand access to the True Power, why would Rand use it, why are they talking??? And most of all, why gods, why?

to transport shayol ghul to a vakuol (bubbel of reality, separated from the creation) where he balefire the opening back 4000 years by combinding the true source (light) with DO´s power (darkness). I think this would work because saidin and saidar is more powerful combined due to there enternal struggle with each other so wouldent light and darkness combined be even better?

So Rand will transport a mountain into a convenient vacuole and then balefire it, and this is supposed to be useful in some way? Rand is supposed to use OP and TP in combination, and he is supposed to use more than the evidence supports him being able to use unaided to destroy a mountain, or possibly a metaphysical phenomenon, neither of which is athread in the Pattern, and so neither of which should be possible to be burned back at all, but he is supposed to do this millenia back in time when he can't handle that much power, and he is supposed to do it such quantites but for some reason he won't destroy the Pattern while doing it because destroying the past 4 millenia will be OK and things will adapt because it's in a vacuole (which is important because destroying this mountain before it was ever in the vacuole....I can't actually finish this sentence)? Which part of this is not incredibly stupid??? This makes no sense. If putting a mountain in a vacuole and destroying it in the past wouldn't have an effect on the past then why not destroy it in the present? And if it does, then why destroy the Pattern? Cutting your nose off to spite your face on a massive scale, perhaps?

 

Thanks to the this the opening in Do´s prison will be as it were in AoL and DO will only keep a vauge feeling of defet because from his point of view he was never close to freedom (this way he will not have any inside info the next time he tries to break free).

OK, so it was destroyed in the past, thus undoing millenia of history, and thus destroying the Pattern, or it wasn't destroyed in the past (because it was in a vacuole) and so it has no effect on the Pattern, and so all you have managed to do is to destroy a mountain to no real gain. Why bother?

 

Because of the vakuol (foreshadowed by Moghedien when she met Moridin) the weave is not effected and the "only" result will be that the blight starts to heal, all shadowspawn will fell like they where in a stedding since they cant feel the DO and everybody will be a tiny bit nicer of the same reason. This will give the forces of light (all the other good characters including seanchan) to winn their battle with the forsaken, the trollocs and so on.

And then Rand laughed, and then Perrin laughed, and then everyone laughed....sorry, thought we were doing crap endings to the series there.....IF IT HAPPENS IN THE PAST THE PATTERN IS GONE, IF IT HAPPENS IN THE PRESENT WHY BOTHER? And all you have done is destroy a mountain, so it's immaterial anyway....I think my brain is going into meltdown from the sheer lack of sense presented here.

 

Rand will make it back to the world but, because of his conection with DO, he will be about to fall back into DO´s prison and to save his imortal soul (dont remember her name, you know the freed damane) will "help him die", somthing that only she could/would.

OK, so what will Alivia do? How? Why?

 

As dead he will meat (the rests of) his creator and certain things will be explained,

Why?

among those the fact that the creator sacreficed nerly all of his power to contain the DO (by creating the wheel of time) and thats the reason why the creation is so automatic.

So he didn't just want a universe that runs itself?

He will be given the choice to go directly to the dream world to rest or to go back to life, wich of course he does with the aid of  Nynaeve who heals his body and the creator who shows his soul the way.

Um, the Creator who takes no part is doing this for what reason?

This event takes place at the vigil wich Min described in the first book and it is forshadowed by Moiraine after the battel in the stone of Tear (she told Rand that no one could heal death) and Nynaeves stubborn claim that everything should be posibble to heal.

Right. I'm going to find a CrazyMike theory to read, it will make yours look far better by comparison.

 

The rest of the world thinks that Rand died a hero and stayed dead. The black and the white towers is made as one in Tar Valon using Elaidas palace to house the Ashamans (really ironic) and visiting wise ones, windfiners and others. This combined tower will be ruled by Egewne and Logain, that way Logain will(as Min said) "rise to a  glory no man would dream of",namly that of an Amyrlin.

As Amyrlins are always women, does this involve Logain getting a sex change?

 

Well thats it. I hope it wont go this way because then the last book would hold nothing new for me (hehehe). ;)

I hope it won't go this way because it would be absoluter rubbish. And what about the mass of other plot threads you didn't address?

 

So, what do you think?

I think that this:

I have thought about this for quite some time

Is a lie.

 

One importent thing I forgot: I also think that even if Moridin and Shadan haran is two completly different beings, they presumably shair one thread (Ishamaels/Moridins) because A:the DO dont seam to be able to influence the world without the aid of its inhabitants and B:We haven seen them toghether now have we?

 

And before someone points it out: Yes, I know that shayol ghul is´t closer to the opening than eny other place but it still seems to me like it´s the core of it all.

So you think a mountain which marks a "thinness" in the Pattern is the core of what? Destroying the mountain would change nothing, and if you could destroy the Bore with vast quantities of balefire and still undo the past Age without destroying the Pattern then why didn't they try it? This theory is stupid beyond belief. Simply staggering. Oh, and your suspicions on Moridin and Shaidar Haran sharing a thread....WHY? Why don't they have separate threads, as they appear to, and if they don't why don't they make do with just one being? None of this makes any sense.

 

In short, balefire wouldn't work because there is nothing to balefire, and even if ther was it would destroy the Pattern due to the massive correction the Pattern would have to  undergo, and if it didn't then why even bother using balefire as you haven't affected the past?

[krelianzg]

The only thing I agree with here is that I'd be surprised if the concept of vacuoles was introduced solely as something for Moghedian to be scared of.

 

Perhaps Moridin and/or Demandred have their base of operations in one?

 

I very much doubt they will play a hand in the last battle though. Or any battle for that matter.

[Duneflayer]

another weak point that no has adressed is that RAND WILL NOT DIE in LOC Min has a viewing in which she see someone fused with Rand in other words Lews Therin and she goes on to say that one of them will die.

 

and i will shoot the first person who says that rand will die and Lews Therin will come back to life

 

 

[Jelly]

Do none of you think that perhaps you're being a bit critical?! (apart from the last two posters-you posted whilst I wrote this)

This person has been a member for one day. If I were in his position, I would be terrified! You're criticizing everything he's said!  Calm down, and consider both the bad points AND the good points of the theory.

 

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but befor he is he will first have a little chat with the DO where he is told about DO´s plan to destroy the creation

Yes, actually, this does seem very likely. When he's facing the dark one, I doubt the DO will keep quiet! In books, the evil characters always like to gloat because of their overconfidence.

 

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As dead he will meat (the rests of) his creator and certain things will be explained,

This could happen; it is a possibility. A fairly unlikely one, but still possible.

 

Quote from Mr Ares:

Um, the Creator who takes no part...

 

 

Quote from Eye of The World:

IT IS NOT HERE

It was not Rand's thought, making his skull vibrate.

I WILL TAKE NO PART. ONLY THE CHOSEN ONE CAN DO WHAT MUST BE DONE, IF HE WILL

"Where?" He did not want to say it, but he could not stop himself. "Where?"

The haze surrounding him parted, leaving a dome of clear, clean air ten spans high, walled by billowing smoke and dust. Steps rose before him, each standing alone and unsupported, up into the murk that obscured the sun.

NOT HERE.

 

You see the writing in capitals? Only the DO, as far as I can remember, has speech in capitals. The creator is as powerful and important as the DO, so, he must also speak in capitals. The DO only seems to speak to people in the Pit Of Doom, at Shayol Ghul. Therefore, I think this may have been the creator talking to Rand; as it is a significant moment in the story, when the Dragon Reborn first uses the One Power. (I think it was the first time?)

So, you see, if I am correct, the Creator does take a part.

 

Random, your theory is quite good, in some respects, although it is a little confusing. Especially the whole vacuole/balefire/mountain thing. But apart from that, it is...original.  :)

 

 

 

[Duneflayer]

another thing people seem to be over looking

 

THE CREATOR COULD KICK THE DARK ONES BUTT

 

the creator created everything including the DO

 

i think the creator will take no physical part or add his power to rands therefore another weak point i don't think the creator can run short on power

[Saidar]

I'm still wondering... Why the hell did the Creator created the Dark One?

 

Conclusion: the Creator = dumb?

[Majsju]

So, you see, if I am correct, the Creator does take a part.

 

Taking part by telling Rand It will not take part...That's helpful ;D

 

I'm still wondering... Why the hell did the Creator created the Dark One?

 

Conclusion: the Creator = dumb?

Perhaps the  Creator did not create the DO. In a world where everything is about balance, why would the Creator not have a counterpart?

[Duneflayer]

the creator made the whole dang universe he had to have made the dark one

 

why did God in our world make Satan

 

RJ was a Christian i believe that he had the same idea here as the way it is in reality

[Majsju]

Just because RJ was a christian in his private life it does not mean he tried to pull a CS Lewis on us.

 

There are some influences from christianity in the books, sure. Rand has borrowed a little from Jesus, but much more from Norse religion and King Artur.

 

But when it comes to all things regarding creation and the world, a very strong theme throughout the books is balance. Male vs female, dark vs light, order vs chaos. And the Creator is the ultimate representative of Order, while the DO represents Chaos.

 

If the Creator had created the DO in the first place, the Creator should be more powerful, and instead of just tossing the DO in a prison, blast the nasty bugger out of existence.

 

Obviously, that never happened. One could perhaps argue that the Creator uses the DO to test humanity..."Ok folks, behind Door #1 there's this really bad thing, which will try to destroy you if you open the door. Which you will do, because that's the way the Wheel works, you don't have a choice. But if you are good, you can defeat It. All up to you now, I'm off going fishing in the higher dimensions...

 

[Duneflayer]

ok i see what your saying but the way i look at it is Tolkien also put alot of his faith in his books and people are always comparing Rj to Tolkien.

 

look the Creator wouldn't create something without a reason

and yes He did create the DO because He is the Creator He made everything otherwise He wouldn't be called the Creator

 

and as to why the Creator doesn't blast the DO into oblivion

 

maybe He loves everything He creates including the DO 

[Paradox]

Nice to see a new theory :) Even though I only agree with small parts of it, like Rand dying and this not being the last "last battle". And yeah some of the responses where a bit harsh.

 

As for the LTT part of rand being killed and the Creator creating the DO I find both unlikely. First LTT and Rand are part, or manifestations, of the same soul. Seems like a bad idea to kill part of yourself, some sort of healing/mending are (in my opinion) more likely. Secondly the Creator created the wheel of time and the pattern, which is the universe/reality for are beloved characters, something the DO isn't part of. in fact it's mention many times that he stands/exists outside the pattern.           

[professorskar]

It is never said anywhere that the Creator created the Dark One.  In fact, it says he created the world and imprisoned the Dark One at the moment of creation, which implies that the Dark One already existed, since we know he exists outside the Pattern.

[Majsju]

ok i see what your saying but the way i look at it is Tolkien also put alot of his faith in his books and people are always comparing Rj to Tolkien.

 

Well, from the mouth of RJ himself...

My work certainly is not religious in even the sense that J.R.R. Tolkien's was, much less the work of C.S. Lewis.

http://www.wotmania.com/faqtopic.asp?ID=152

[Shard]

ok i see what your saying but the way i look at it is Tolkien also put alot of his faith in his books and people are always comparing Rj to Tolkien.

 

Well, from the mouth of RJ himself...

My work certainly is not religious in even the sense that J.R.R. Tolkien's was, much less the work of C.S. Lewis.

http://www.wotmania.com/faqtopic.asp?ID=152

 

I remember Rowling saying much the same, yet Harry pulled a JC sacrifice and I feel Rand will do the same. The Finn's said for Rand to Live he must die, so he'll be sacrficing himself and everyone but a select few Rand Followers will actually know. He may have a chat with Kari, his mother, he may not...

 

I think Rand's body has become so corrpt with the Taint and his mind with Lews Therin that he needs to be "reborn" to die and live again.

[bjclinton]

the creator made the whole dang universe he had to have made the dark one

 

why did God in our world make Satan

 

RJ was a Christian i believe that he had the same idea here as the way it is in reality

 

Actually, God didn't create Satan...

 

before mankind was created, it was God and the angels in heaven....actually, it was God, the Angels and the Arch-Angels, in heaven. Some of the highest "ranking" Angels and those closest to God were Michael, Gabrielle and Lucifer (sound familiar?)

 

Then God made man. And man was given free will- something that the Angels did not have...

 

unfortunately, this rubbed one particular Arch-Angel the wrong way...and Angel by the name of Lucifer (translated as morning star), the most beautiful and beloved Angel gathered together a group of Angels that would challenge God.

 

The long and the short of it is that Lucifer was cast out of heaven forever with the rest of his Angels, all becoming Fallen Angels and thus Satan, aka, Lucifer as he is still known is spawned.

 

Lucifer, once one of God's most beloved and trusted Arch-Angels wasn't created evil. he.....became evil.

 

I guess this technically means that God did in fact create Satan, but not in the way that you meant it- not for a balance.

 

Thats how the story goes anyway. Its a bit contradictory (i.e. if Angels didn't have free will, how did Lucifer choose to try and challenge the power of God), but there you have it.

 

Not sure how this will /  will not tie into anyones theory about where or how the DO was created, but i'm guessing we'll never really know for sure and can only speculate.

 

 

[Mr Ares]

another weak point that no has adressed is that RAND WILL NOT DIE in LOC Min has a viewing in which she see someone fused with Rand in other words Lews Therin and she goes on to say that one of them will die.

 

and i will shoot the first person who says that rand will die and Lews Therin will come back to life

Rand will not die in Lord of Chaos? Sorry, couldn't resist. We have other sources of knowledge of the future beside Min. We have the Aelfinn saying to live you must die, and a Foretelling saying he who is dead yet lives, which is generally taken to refer to Rand (and note the IS dead). And Min doesn't say Rand won't die. In fact, she says Alivia will help him die. It doesn't look good for him. Oh, and Rand will die and LTT will return to life....go on then, shoot me.

 

Do none of you think that perhaps you're being a bit critical?!

Not really, if people post theories which I can pick holes in then holes I will pick.

This person has been a member for one day. If I were in his position, I would be terrified! You're criticizing everything he's said!  Calm down, and consider both the bad points AND the good points of the theory.

There are good points?!?!?

 

but befor he is he will first have a little chat with the DO where he is told about DO´s plan to destroy the creation

Yes, actually, this does seem very likely. When he's facing the dark one, I doubt the DO will keep quiet! In books, the evil characters always like to gloat because of their overconfidence.

So just because any number of hacks want to have evil characters explain their plans, that means a good writer is likely to do it as well. Next you'll be saying that maybe Rand should be placed in an overly elaborate and easily escapable sitution designed to kill him, and Dr Evil Shai'tan (BBHN) won't watch, while Moridin gets repeatedly shhhed because he insists on getting some balefire and killing him now. And maybe we could find room for a Mini Me somewhere.

 

As dead he will meat (the rests of) his creator and certain things will be explained,

This could happen; it is a possibility. A fairly unlikely one, but still possible.

Um' date=' the Creator who takes no part...[/i']

IT IS NOT HERE

It was not Rand's thought, making his skull vibrate.

I WILL TAKE NO PART. ONLY THE CHOSEN ONE CAN DO WHAT MUST BE DONE, IF HE WILL

"Where?" He did not want to say it, but he could not stop himself. "Where?"

The haze surrounding him parted, leaving a dome of clear, clean air ten spans high, walled by billowing smoke and dust. Steps rose before him, each standing alone and unsupported, up into the murk that obscured the sun. NOT HERE.

You see the writing in capitals? Only the DO, as far as I can remember, has speech in capitals. The creator is as powerful and important as the DO, so, he must also speak in capitals. The DO only seems to speak to people in the Pit Of Doom, at Shayol Ghul. Therefore, I think this may have been the creator talking to Rand; as it is a significant moment in the story, when the Dragon Reborn first uses the One Power. (I think it was the first time?)

So, you see, if I am correct, the Creator does take a part.

I am well aware of that quote, and the reasoning, which follows my own. Except I read it, specifically this line:I WILL TAKE NO PART. Get it? He says he will take no part, I say same.....analogy: a fight breaks out between some children. An adult says sort it out amonst yourselves, but don't fight in here. It's the same. Your problem, bugger off, don't bother me.

 

Random, your theory is quite good, in some respects, although it is a little confusing. Especially the whole vacuole/balefire/mountain thing. But apart from that, it is...original.  :)

Don't be silly. A mountain which is nothing more than a physical location being moved into a vacuole and then getting balefired makes so mush sense, because SG is not the Bore, and moving it wouldn't move the Bore, and the thinness in the Pattern could obviously be removed with something which burns threads from the Pattern, because if one of my shirts is wearing thin I do generally use a lighter to fix the problem.......Maybe originality isn't all that wonderful?

 

THE CREATOR COULD KICK THE DARK ONES BUTT. the creator created everything including the DO

Evidence for either?

 

I'm still wondering... Why the hell did the Creator created the Dark One?

He didn't.

 

the creator made the whole dang universe he had to have made the dark one

Shai'tan (BBHN) is extra-universal - outside the Creation.

 

why did God in our world make Satan

Ask Luckers.

RJ was a Christian i believe that he had the same idea here as the way it is in reality

But this series is not Chritian. The Wheel is borrowed from Eastern religions. And we are not dealing with a Christian God>Devil setup, we are dealing with a Creator=Shai'tan (BBHN) setup. They are equal. More like Zoroastrianism than Christianity, and RJ himself has said his world is "somewhat Manichaean". Wrong religion, wrong conclusions.

 

look the Creator wouldn't create something without a reason

and yes He did create the DO because He is the Creator He made everything otherwise He wouldn't be called the Creator

What wonderful logic. I'm called the Creator, so I created everything. NO. He is called the Creator because he Created the universe - but Shai'tan (BBHN) IS NOT a part of that universe - He is an external influence, contained by a prison, not a part of the Creation.

 

And all this talk of God/Angels/Christianity is just begging for Luckers to swoop down and deliver a lecture.

[Ahaz Flagg]

The only part of your theroy I agree with, is that Rand will talk to the Dark One.  But even that could be wrong.

 

As a once great authur was fond of saying, we will have to RAFO!!

 

The thing that stands out most wrong in your theroy is the missing, Blood spilled on Shayol Ghul. That is the key to Rand sealing the prison. I've always had the feeling Alivia would be the one to open the first wound Rand recieved to spill the blood, to help seal the prison.

 

Probaly,I am mistaken. 

 

 

 

[Jelly]

I'm not going to bother with quotes, it will take too long, but my point about the Creator was that if he was willing to talk to Rand before, he probably will again. Which, I suppose, is not exactly taking part, but I meant that that part of Random's theory could be correct..

I made a mistake, basically. Sorry about that.

:)

 

[cloglord]

Next you'll be saying that maybe Rand should be placed in an overly elaborate and easily escapable sitution designed to kill him, and Dr Evil Shai'tan (BBHN) won't watch, while Moridin gets repeatedly shhhed because he insists on getting some balefire and killing him now. And maybe we could find room for a Mini Me somewhere.

 

Uhmm,  I always thought that Shadar Haran was mini me...

[Wayhey]

another weak point that no has adressed is that RAND WILL NOT DIE in LOC Min has a viewing in which she see someone fused with Rand in other words Lews Therin and she goes on to say that one of them will die.

 

and i will shoot the first person who says that rand will die and Lews Therin will come back to life

 

 

Unfortunately, Rand merely believes Min is talking about himself and Lews Therin, and that rationalization lets him think he isn't actually crazy.  The viewing almost certainly refers to Rand and Moridin instead.  Rand really is crazy.

[Tyrell]

I initially skimmed this topic; had some thoughts that I won't bother to mention because it's just rude, then left it.

 

However the idea of Vacuoles being used somehow preyed on my mind and so I'm wondering if perhaps one wouldn't be such a bad solution.

 

Although the OP is somewhat convoluted and plain wrong in logic at points, the basic premise of sticking Shai'tan into a Vacuole doesn't seem too far fetched (atleast it didn't on the bus on the way home, so what the heck, perhaps it will when I've eaten, nevermind though).

 

If I remember correctly Moghedian thinks that Vacuoles are outside the pattern in some way, I'm probably mis-remembering, but nevermind, it's interesting if I'm correct. Although she also thinks that they can drift off forever, which may detract from my madcap theory.

 

So why not toss Shai'tan into one?

 

It is (may be if I remembered correct) outside the pattern, so Mirien / her replacement in the next second age can drill into it at a (much) later date.

 

Time flows fast/slow in them. So theoretically you could either toss him in one where time goes super fast so events would go like this for Him

 

MUHAHAHAHA DOMINATION ETC.

*Vacuole-ised*

MUHAH... HANG ON, BACK IN THIS AGE AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENED?

 

Or where time goes really really slow so he can have time to forget what happened last time and try again.

 

Thats it pretty much; it's somewhat thin to say the least, but I'm not pretending to be credible or anything ;)