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  1. http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/77966-the-55-chapter-titles-of-a-memory-of-light/
  2. I think he actually said in his blogpost that it would not be a chapter from AMoL but would rather be a section of RJ's notes. http://brandonsanderson.com/blog/1032/New-Wheel-of-Time-Great-Hunt
  3. I'm not sure that your "last seen" on Mat is correct as of the end of TGS. Not %100 but you might check into it.
  4. I've said it before, and it's time to say it again. Mattin Stepeneos is in the White Tower so that Verin can give him the Horn and have him bring it back to Illian. Moraine said herself that the illianers would probably follow the DO himself if he showed up in Illian with the Horn of Valere, and since its been hinted/prophesized that it will show up there since before it even came onscreen I think that its entirely possible that Verin unearthed it and sent it on its way before her death. It could be that I'm wrong about Verin shipping it out with him, but the other person who know where it is, is also in the tower again and Suian/Egwene could certainly do the deed as well.
  5. My thoughts from re-reading the Prolouge. I wonder if the partially formed figures of men from the Two Rivers is reflecting a subconscious need for Perrin to finsihforming the Two Rivers into something. What that is I'm not sure, but it could indicate that he's in the process of turning his followers into an army, or even a new nation,.... I wonder if the fact that Graendal's Captain of the Gurad being a Saldean Cousin to the queen is an indication that Graendal's been playing around in Saldea. Grandal's most secure hiding place is somewhere far to the west of Arad Doman, Seanchan perhaps? Delana was trained in compulsion. Is this indicative of BA/Dreadlord training program? Granedal had dozens of items of the power destroyed in the attack on Natrin's Barrow, were these just the items pilfered from Sammael or were there others? Mordeth/Fain feasted on the trollocs whilst wrapping them in the mist. The mist kills Fades outright, but reanimates Trollocs. Is this some indication that the souls of fades are tied directly to the DO? Am I the only one who sees the similarity between this mist and Mashadar? Also Fain's repeated references to his Hatred and his Madness reminded me of Mashadar and Machin Shin respectively. Mashadar is often described as the hatred that killed Shadar Logoth, and Machin Shin seems to be an embodiment of madness. If Fain a Mashadar/Mordeth/Machin Shin amalgam now? I am struck by the similarity between the description of the flesh of the Trollocs bubbling, and the description of the trollocs that were found dead in the ways. Is it possible that Fain's run in with Machin Shin stuck as well as his run in with Mordeth? Lan will not reach Tarwin's Gap before he runs into the Trolloc Hordes, it seems most liekly to me that he will end up in Chachin, falling back towards Tar Valon, (coincedently the next place that Nynaeve would look for help for Lan anyways.)
  6. I can echo the points about the "Mat" voice, but I'll also throw in that I feel that BS is starting to zero in on it a little. The idea that Mat would be calling himself "Lord" anything let alone Lord Crimson," seemed particularly jarring. however the internal justifications for looking at the ladies seemed textbook Mat even if the amount of oogling seemed like the point was being over emphasized. I am thinking that the apparent time line inconsistencies can be explained in part by a weakness in the pattern, and the inconstant nature of rumors. The rumors about Aes Sedai babies seem like a reference to the Family structure of the new novice families. The rumors of tower reunification seem premature for this point in time, but I wonder if those might not have something to do with the mystery sisters at the silver swan. There is of course Duhara (Sp?) who is in town as well, and as BA she could be spreading any number of false rumors, although I can not fathom what spreading rumors of the towers reunification would do for the DO's cause. As for the break in the clouds, it might be as simple as remembering that no matter how dire Rand's mental plight is, it is not likely to cause exactly the same weather conditions across the entirety of Randland. A permanently cloudy environment is likely to make the Aiel Waste a downright pleasant place comparatively. If you are operating under the same assumption that I am that the weather and the distress to the natural order of things is tied to Rand then it doesn't stand to reason that his distress would make things better in one place (the waste for instance,) and worse everywhere else. Additionally, I am unaware of any indications of just how far this phenomenon extends from Rand. As for the apparent time inconsistencies, in a world where the architecture regularly changes places without warning, I have no problem accepting large shifts in the nature of time flow. As a hypothesis I wonder if the barriers between the "possible" worlds is being blurred. What if in alternate Randland #2 the Brown Ajah quarters were down in the wings of the tower, and the lines between the two worlds just got a little mixed? What if the Daughter heir's rooms were in one spot in Randland #3 and there was a little overlap? I don't have a problem believing this. Now what if Tar Valon got caught up in a little bit of overlap with a world were time flows a little faster? What if one night spent in the vicinity of Hinderstrap is actually 2 weeks? I suspect, as much as it galls me to throw away one of our greatest tools for predicting the next books, that we may have to throw timeline out as an indicator of what's to come. Presumably however malleable time may become, I suspect that it will always flow forward similarly to the way that time rates change between RealWorld and TAR. This might also help explain how the Gholam caught up to Mat so quickly. Now as to Mat and the Gholam. Arguments about how much of a ninja Elayne is or isn't, I don't think that Mat is likely to leave the Gholam issue unresolved and in Elayne's Lap. Simply Mat has a perfect excuse to not open Verin's Letter so long as he feels that he needs to deal with the Gholam situation. The thing that I took from this chapter that I feel is most telling, is that Mat begins to make plans about how to confront the Gholam. In every other instance where Mat stops running from a fight, and decides to make a stand he has been undefeated. Mat has some serious resources at his disposal, and given that he is taking the time to plan a fight between him and the Gholam I have every confidence that he will succeed. He knows what his resources are, and he knows his enemies strengths and weaknesses. I won't go so far as to predict how mat will defeat the Gholam, but I believe that he will make plans to neutralize it. An earlier poster mentioned that the Gholam was after Elayne and Nyn. While this was true in Ebou Dar, it is also true that the Gholam was after Mat. It might be that the reason that the Gholam was after the girls was to prevent them from using the bowl of the winds, and with that event past, it is no longer interested in them. In either case , neither Mat nor Elayne is privy to the reasons why the Gholam arrived in Ebou Dar, and should be making their assumptions from what they have experienced. In this case, Mat has been twice attacked by the Gholam, his lover was slaughtered, by the Gholam, and he was trailed by it all the way across Altara on his travels with Tuon. On the other hand, Elayne had her head knocked in and was left for dead. That's it, and her experience was no different than that of most of the Channelers in that Gholam Battle on the fifth floor. Simply, all evidence tells Mat that the Gholam is after him alone. One easy way, and the way that Mat has dealt with the situation to date, would be to run away to unpopulated areas, where Gholam's don't have any fresh human blood, and where there aren't mobs of people with drawings of him trying to do him in. I can think of one place like that,.....and if the DF's and Gholam can put enough heat on him, he might just decide that waiting for thirty days in Camelyn might be worse than opening a letter and getting the heck out of Dodge,....
  7. On the subject of why Elayne seems to be ignoring Mat,... There is still the fact that Duhara was sent to Camelyn for presumably some nefarious purpose. I am personally inclined towards the idea that Graendal's orders to break Rand would have focused on Elayne, (perhaps using Duhara as a part of this plan, perhaps not,) and since Elayne seems overconfident about her survival in light of the prophesized birth of her babies, I think it would be particularly fitting if instead of being in physical danger, she is instead in mental danger from compulsion from Graendal. Of course having her brain wiped by compulsion would not prevent her children from being born healthy in the slightest. There is also something pleasing about us going from one Andoran Queen being held captive to a leacherous compulsive forsaken in her own palace, and the next queen also being held captive to a leacherous compulsive forsaken in that same palace. Of course Graendal's MO is to remove a ruler from the public eye, and then send out functionaries to deal with the day to day functions, (similar to Mat's experience with Norry.) I am unsure on the timeline of how it would work, but if you follow this line of thinking is it possible that Rand felt Elayne's relief from being released from compulsion before she was actually released by virtue of the balefire time reversal? I am by no means a balefire philosopher, so I'll leave that to sharper minds than my own to answer, but it is an interesting thought. If this turns out to be the case, I think it would be most fitting if either Galad and/or Morgase were accessories to Elayne's rescue in some fashion. Morgase seems like a fitting candidate as a recipient of similar treatment and considering her sole goal of supporting Elayne in any way possible. And Galad and his single minded rightness, seems like a perfectly suited person to avoid subtle trickery on the part of Graendal. Of course it could be argued that his singlemindedness would make him extremely easy to manipulate as well, so I'm unsure about Galad in this regard. There would be something fitting about Elayne having to revise her attitude towards Galad were he to rescue her though. Basically, Graendal was given very specific orders and the most likely place for her to attempt to carry those out is in Camelyn considering how the DR's BabyMama is the worst kept secret ever. If Graendel is in fact following that course it explains Elayne's distance in this chapter very well, so that's what I suspect is going on.
  8. I'm also thinking that "Use a Pebble," might be a Avhienda Chapter. The first thing that I thought of when I heard that was Mat and Rand sucking on pebbles for moisture on their way down to Rhuidean. It might be a refelction by Avhienda about how long she's been gone from the 3 fold land and how soft she feels that she's become.
  9. I have mixed feelings about that. I would like to see it, but I am not sure I want to travel that far back into TGS, or possibly even KoD. I'm thinking that it could be her between the Mat Visit and the Egwene visit. My mental image is of her delivering letters hither and yon and stopping for a minute to reflect on how it had taken her an entire bottle of ink to leave her little seeds of Verin dotted throughout Randland. Maybe its sudden onset Verin Nostalgia, but Verin tops my list of favorite characters because of her (until recently) mysterious side, and I would absolutely love any and all indications of Verin continuing to direct a few things from beyond the grave.
  10. A thought just struck me. What if the "Empty Ink Bottle," Chapter is a Verin POV after she's done writing her sack full of letters,....?
  11. 1. Verin, again hands down, no contest. She was one of my favorite characters before that chapter, and will remain there without a doubt. I was also saddened by the death of a favorite character, but I also have to admit that it was kinda cool for one of the good guys to actually die, not to mention a couple of forsaken taken out for permanent. Verin's death kind of ups the stakes for the series. 2. Has anyone considered that Mat isn't acting like Mat at least in part due to the fact that he just got married and is worried about his wife? I agree that he seems off, but I'm not ready to write off BS's portrayal of him after only a couple of chapters especially since there is such a good reason for him to be acting oddly. 3. IF, (and that's a great big IF,) Graendal killed Asmo, I wonder if it is possible that Asmo is no longer dead? That was a pretty big hunk of balefire that took down Graendal, what else might have been unraveled? I don't know if BS's promise to reveal Asmo's killer makes this scenario more, or less likely. 4. I thouroughly enjoyed the Egwene chapters, but I would have like to have seen some more resolution of the BA hunters in terms of them having more success with the Tower BA. I expected that many of the tower BA would escape since presumably Messana at least had connections between the rebel camp and the tower, and the motivation to spirit away as many dreadlords as could be managed. The forming of circles of novices seeed to fit well, and I'm glad to see that Egwene was smart enough to go looking for some bigger artillary before rushing out to destroy the Seanchan Raid.
  12. That's one for the record books, have we every completely agreed on anything before? ;)
  13. I didn't see Egwene using freedom from forkroot to escape, I saw her using it to take over, or at the very least to rid the tower of Eladia. I think there would have been a certain nobility to Egwene capturing Elaida opening a gateway to turn her over to the rebels, and then remain in the tower to try to finish the journey that she's been on. Let the Tower sisters see if their Amrylin stood up to captivity half as well at the rebel amrylin has. I suspect that the next few days of Egwene time will deal with her meeting with the ferrets, and since the BA hunters have the ferrets firmly under thumb, dealing with her meeting with the hunters as well. Along those lines, I suspect that Egwene's plotline will go to the BA purge first, perhaps culminating in the seanchan raid or in the end of Elaida, either would be a fitting end. Egwene's got the goods on Alviarin's letter, but I don't think we should forget that Verin's got the goods on Katerine, and I suspect that Verin will be making an appearance at the tower pretty soon, perhaps sniffing for the horn in the same basements that the BA Hunters are making use of as well....
  14. That was about the coolest thing that could happen to me this morning. My prediction was that Elaida would be drunk, and that Meidani would help Egwene knock Elaida out long enough for the forkroot to wear off. I also was trying to figure out how Egwene would survive her run in with Elaida. I like this way much better. As for predictions about this encounter bringing in Silviana, thats kind of like predicting that the sun will rise, obviously there isn't much in-book time to devote to the developing relationship between the two, and the dinner was the obvious point for this relationship to reach fruition. Now the idea of another dinner in a few days, raises the definate possibility of an Egwene Vs. Elaida showdown....
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