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  On 6/1/2025 at 11:32 PM, DPR said:


Yes

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Well damn.

There goes the idea of playing a little Russian Roulette, so we can get this train moving a different direction.

 

@Darthe I'm sure the Wolves have already picked up on my role by now, but I've offered a few hints if you care to do a little digging...

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  On 6/2/2025 at 1:39 AM, SinisterDeath said:

Well damn.

There goes the idea of playing a little Russian Roulette, so we can get this train moving a different direction.

 

@Darthe I'm sure the Wolves have already picked up on my role by now, but I've offered a few hints if you care to do a little digging...

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You asked and I answered motherf’’r. Roulette with that

 

Lol

 

 

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Posted
  On 6/2/2025 at 1:47 AM, DPR said:

Okay, for real, that cracked me up

 

I love this game 

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Lol, yeah, I wasn't sure if that gun was like the governor and could just interrupt shit. Lolz

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Posted

Course I could be totally wrong about this that shit works to. And that was EOD as well.

 

Okay, going back to listen to Dungeon Crawler Carl. This shits funny as hell.

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  On 6/2/2025 at 1:39 AM, SinisterDeath said:

Well damn.

There goes the idea of playing a little Russian Roulette, so we can get this train moving a different direction.

 

@Darthe I'm sure the Wolves have already picked up on my role by now, but I've offered a few hints if you care to do a little digging...

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I don't really, as I suspect roles don't correlate with alignment as much as normal.  You're in a tight spot, claim it or don't.  There is a wolf between you two though, almost always.  At worst if we're wrong on you you're dying for a good cause, but feel free to fight for why it's Turin and not yourself.  

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  On 6/1/2025 at 9:37 PM, Gudrean said:

where is this team from?

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Albuquerque.   It really is a thing influenced by a Simpsons episode because they have predicted everything for some unknown reason.  

I've taken peeks at what's happened...and all I can say is wow.  I've had several pops so I'll wait until the morning when I am more sober to respond.  
 

 

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Did we get a claim of who used the Necromancer role?  Heavy's a weird target because he was a contentious slot.  I'm not DPR but I know if I was designing this I would give wolves at least one pro-town role.  Maybe that's just how my sick brain ticks, but giving wolves Apportioner so they can use it on their own night kill and claim it is just the sort of thing I'd do and just the sort of play I'd conspire towards as a wolf.  It falls into the zone of a healthy trade-off where what wolves have to give up isn't game-changing and it buys them a lot of mechanical cred.

 

I'm not sure it would have worked that way anyway with n0 factored in, but bottom line is just I don't understand what's clearing about Heavy's role vs say, something more straight forward like a cop or governor where the optimal play would be to just eliminate the role altogether/dramatically shift balance by denying a wolf lynch in a game that already has minimal alignment information.  Starting off a wolf with either of those wouldn't make as much sense.

 

Not to create more problems than we already have, just when I take a quick peek at the mech I don't get what's clearing about Heavy's claim and I don't get why a one shot necromancer would revive the guy with the #2 most votes at EoD instead of waiting and using it on someone wolves kill.

 

Anyway, not going to dive too much more into mech I hope.

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  On 5/31/2025 at 10:43 PM, SinisterDeath said:

I have my suspicions that I wasn't bus drived last night, but I can't guarantee Turin wasn't.

 

If you're telling the truth about being a mentalist and you weren't hit with a bus driver... Then Turin's a wolf.

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SD brings it up first.  That complicates things.

 

  On 6/1/2025 at 10:43 AM, Turin Turambar said:

. . . There is a busdriver and since I know I'm town (SD could well be mafia, i certainlyhave my suspicions) there exists a possibility of me being driven somewhere else.

 

. . .

 

So we lunch from the bottom pool, and I think just by the numbers we win.  It probably has to be from me and SD today if just to show if Darthe got accurate results. I know I'm town, I don't know about SD, so that's where I'm going to start.

 

VOTE SD

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Turin was giving a full overview of mech and bus driver was already on the table.  He didn't raise it out of the blue.  Unfortunate because I like easy solutions.

 

I dunno man Turin's headspace is just so inaccessible to me in this game.

 

I had my longer post about it earlier which he didn't offer a response to.

 

But here too there's no gusto.  Like ok Turin must have had pretty firm convictions about SD on D1 given I was hopping and shouting about don't lynch SD don't lynch SD and he was all nah that guy is definitely the best lynch candidate.  He didn't miss it because he commented on it.  Now you've got a difference check between yourself and your top wolf read, someone you're already invested in.  Where's the vindication?  You nailed it and stuck to your guns in the face of opposition and voted a wolf D1 right?  Like, hell yeah right?  You aren't voting him because it's mechanically optimal because there was a difference check and you know you're town and the probability of bus driver is yadda yadda.  Come on.  That's your pelt.  There's no joy in it.  It's so mechanical and dispassionate.

 

We all express ourselves differently but I expect a little fist pump somewhere.  Vs a wolf here wants to ride the upper hand they have going into it and try to avoid a thunderdome at all costs.  Could just be a bus driver but this is the best lead we got yeah right your top suspect just got difference checked with you.

 

I don't like it.  What makes it hard is SD kinda did the same thing.  SD was never pushing Turin, so there's that.  The wolf SD I saw skimming the last game didn't hesitate to call people wolves aggressively, so there's that.  Hmm....

 

There was a post in a game I helped Ithi do VCs in where I read one sentence out of Turin's mouth and said he's town for this.  I'm going to go find it.  I need to get my head back into how he thinks.

 

 

 

 

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  On 6/1/2025 at 4:24 PM, Turin Turambar said:

I know I'm town.  If Darthe is telling the truth of what he got as a result AND you are town (which I doubt) then something must have happened to affect his result. The only reasonable thing would be for one of us to have been driven. You say you are confident it wasnt you for some.reason. fair enough. That means it must have been me that got driven with a mafia person to protectthem from cop views.

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  On 6/1/2025 at 4:04 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Shad's insistence of SD innocence is pinging. TMI leading to being right orjust straight trying to carry a teammate I'm not sure. Starting to think the latter.  

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Both of these posts are fine.

 

For one thing Turin would have been a good target for a bus drive for precisely the reason he stated.  I don't know that I should put too much weight into the mindset behind hypotheticals but I generally know when I'm a good cop target and when I'm not and Turin would have been a good cop target n1 I feel.  It at least makes sense.

 

For the other, I kind of expected that town!SD would suss me for the defense yesterday and town!Turin would suss me after the difference check.  Both did to some extent, so that kinda breaks even.

 

 

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  On 6/1/2025 at 2:08 PM, Turin Turambar said:

I understand why that might be needed, barring evidence of tampering with the Mentalist. I'm town and I already included myself in the overall PoE so am resigned to my possible conversion into the force, lol. I still win as long as we get the wolves. 

 

I still think SD is mafia though. So yeah.

 

Shad being so uber defensive of him is starting to sketch me out too tbh. 

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This is a good post.  This has a little emotion behind it. 

 

I didn't want to find good posts you're making it hard.

 

What if Darthe's just a wolf and the whole thing is a charade to easily lock up the game lol

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  On 6/1/2025 at 10:43 AM, Turin Turambar said:

Darthe is confirmed as the Mentalist based upon the OP showing the role removed. Mentalist was not a passing role so I think that also confirms him as town.

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Hmm

 

Mentalist has wolf utility to find a lost partner.

 

Could have even truthfully used it on Sinister and Turin since no one is going to question an investigative on Sinister and wolves could have viably thought Turin was their lost guy.  Might have just lied about the results because oOoOoOoOo a bus driver exists we still have plausible deniability.

Posted
  On 6/1/2025 at 11:38 AM, Gudrean said:

because I had it first. the game wouldn't start with a mafia player holding the cop role. If I was mafia I would pass it along my mafia buddies, hopefully Dice passed it to a townie 🤷‍♂️

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Does CC not meant counter claim? 
who is being countered?

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  On 6/1/2025 at 11:45 AM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

CCd means counter claimed. You seemed to be saying someone had also claimed cop, and as Dice was confirmed it almost looked like you were pointing out you had been caught in a lie. Which would have odd, lol, hence why we're asking what you meant. Glad to know your still unCC'd 🙂

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This guy gets it 

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What a rabbit hole I have embarked down lol

 

I don't care enough to keep digging.

 

Turin hasn't had a spark moment of blatant villageriness but the one I quoted as a good post does resonate a bit with what I read him as town for correctly before.

 

SD's D1 looked profoundly different from what I saw skimming through a couple posts in his wolf game with the important note that he didn't have any posts in this game that resembled the ones I consistently found there.  Could it be because I didn't check early enough and caught a different stage in his ramping up process?  Perhaps.  Given flips I would have been pretty ok with killing him D1 for info.  What if he deliberately changed his play style is utter nonsense and no one is simultaneously skilled enough to do that at will and bad enough to get killed within the first two days as either alignment every time anyway.  Doesn't happen.  If he's a wolf here it's precisely that I was looking at the wrong phase of his performance process and I really wish someone had met me half way on his meta instead of just tossing out people change their meta all the time and but he said the word lightning rod in both games and that sort of nonsense.  I still think it's unlikely.


Darthe is uniquely hard to read because he's quite good at this game.  Is there wolf utility in Mentalist?  Yes.  Would he exploit having this role as a wolf to difference check two villagers?  Of course he would.

 

Now what lol

 

I think we got off to a very bad start on the mechanics in terms of losing our best roles early.  It is what it is.  Perfect storm of the site doesn't allow searches and ctrl+f functionality breaks and doesn't return every post and we lost our abilities to see alignments, I'm somewhat irritated because answers are out there but I don't want to put in the time to find them.

 

Leelou and Darthe 1.0's reads have to matter, right?  Right?  Wolves aren't just killing all the people who are wrong and then not making any effort to get us to sheep them, right?  Who did they think were wolves.  That won't resolve the Turin/SD/Darthe 2.0 migraine but might contain the answer to who the other wolves are.

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  On 6/1/2025 at 1:02 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

But of course why out yourself? Or did he pull the trigger before I claimed. But then he risked shooting me when I could easily have been eliminated, especially with his vote. 

 

And he cannot hide as the Gunsmith knows it was him. 

 

Why not vote me and shoot someone else? 

 

Unless we really are talking about shooting for the lolz, lol. 

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This must be before my post about shooting you earlier in the day. Unfortunately, I just can’t sit on the thread all day. 

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Ed shooting Heavy is so not a wolf thing to do that in a more normal game I'd give him a very long pass for it and given the highly limited info we have to solve things I gotta roll the dice more than usual.  Can wolves ride easy with simple gambits in this set-up?  Seems like it yeah.  I'm still probably going to clear him all game for it.

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Leelou and Dice night kills over me, Darthe, or Ithi

 

Ithi and me were the loudest on both sides of the SD debate and had a lot of thread pull.  Wolves obviously had a lot of respect for Darthe's game, killed him once already.  We were the conventional n1s.  Old timers less likely to follow convention, and I'm told Leelou's suspects were old timers.  Fear kill or classic minimal info kill both kinda cater to the same POE.  I voted Peace because I was told Leelou sussed him + it made sense to me that neither me nor Ithi died in a world where Ithi was wrong on SD and I was wrong on Peace (I called him my top villager early).  

 

Digging into Peace is where my head's at but I probably won't read back at all before n2 and we have the Mentalist claim.

 

I'm not as confident that Turin is a wolf as I want to be.  Not at all.  I also don't feel confident about SD being town anymore because memory is fleeting.  I'm going to hold on to how I felt about him when I was invested D1, because while I botch wolf reads all the time, it is extremely rare that I am that confidently wrong about a village read.  So between the two, would vote Turin.  If mechanics exist that allow us to alignment check one of them, given we won't get a flip, I am not at all opposed to going after another wolf first and letting this stew.  I dunno what we have left out there mechanically speaking.

 

Ok gnight might not be back until eod

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Good morning all 🙂

 

@DPR could we have confirmation on the Hot Potato role? Given the imagery invoked by a Hot Potato being thrown amongst the players and the use of the definitive article on "the potato", I assumed that the potato in question was the whole role. Is it in fact just a role blocker with another name?

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Posted
  On 6/1/2025 at 10:19 PM, Gudrean said:

Can we just agree to not judge people for playing and talking the way they want? You know I 💗 U Man!  but just let Sinister do his thing. Ya know. It's not hurting anyone.

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Absolutely 🥰

 

@SinisterDeath my apologies for allowing my frustration to show, and please don't think that I am telling you how to play, or how you are allowed to play or post.

 

If I can try to rephrase my point in a less abrasive way, I feel making posts purely about possibilities is muddying the waters. I appreciate people showing their thought processes but at the same time posting a lot of maybe this or maybe the opposite, isn't showing any progression, is showing what you actually think about something and isn't something that anyone can get a read on except for the feeling that someone is being deliberately vague and longwinded to have a thread presence without actually giving reads they can be judged on or held accountable for at a later date. I hope that is a clearer way of making my point.

 

Of course, you do you, absolutely and without qualification.

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