[GAME OVER - TOWN WINS] Dragon and Swift

[peacesells]

  On 5/29/2025 at 12:51 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

These people are currently not voting.

 

Not Voting - 11 (Gudrean, Turin, Shad, Dice, Tigs, Peace, Heavy, Sinister, Berf, Teph, Eddie)

 

If you are Town it is better to vote than have a random player Lynched. We can't look at voting patterns if DPR randomly kills someone and also there's a bigger chance a random kill will hit Town.

 

if either... or both of the people being voted now are Mafia, then they just need to abstain to save themselves.

 

Please don't be wishy washy this game.

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  On 5/29/2025 at 1:20 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Why are you voting for Tigs? Why do you think she is Mafia?

 

I saw your post. I still think your first post was not helpful.

 

We are not gonna have any help with flips this game, so Town is gonna have to try and use gameplay to solve. And if no one plays the game that's gonna make it megasuperukele hard.

 

 

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  On 5/29/2025 at 1:38 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

So... absolutely nothing in all the activity that has occurred has drawn your interest and you'd rather vote for an inactive.

 

Ok. I will remember this too

 

But true. At least you have voted and I thank you for that.

 

Nanight.

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So Ithi is not loving Teph's vote.  But this is a bit incongruent with the statement that voting is good.  Then retracts somewhat with thanking him for voting.

I want to sat WTF, Ithi, you are talking out of both sides of your mouth here - but what do we get out of lynching someone?  Like literally.  What do we get?  No info ever as far as I can tell.  Seems like the Scum team is OP at this point.

This is gonna be like going to a strip club and leaving unsatisfied and with empty pockets.



 

[SinisterDeath]

  On 5/28/2025 at 3:37 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

@SinisterDeath

 

 

I elect to not ping pong with

 

SinisterDeath 

 

As it's easy to clog up the chat.

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Worth noting.

 

Ithillian setup her pre-vote on me, before the N0 ended, establishing her intent to vote for me on D1, even before Darthe was killed.

 

I believe when I said Ithillian was a town lean, that was after, Ithillian quoted that text that showed Darthe saying Ithillian and Turin were Town.

 

That forced me to reevaluate her scum read on me.

 

>Btw, I finally figured out why I thought Darthe said there was a wolf between you and Turin.

 

He quoted your post with Heavy, Ed and DPR and said something like, "but there's only one wolf between them" implying Heavy.

 

Somehow, I conflated that post with the other one that involved you and Turin being town confirmed.<

 

I normally don't sus people sussing me, because I expect it.

 

If anything, I've been putting pressuring on you, to see where the other chips fly.

 

Does someone come to my support offering weird defenses?

 

Does someone aid your case against me?

Or does someone go on the attack against you, or someone else?

 

What do we have to work with?

 

I ask you for a read list, you refuse.

Ask for mine.

I give it.

You distract, and keep building that train against me.

 

That feels kind of wolfy. After all, wolves don't want to be held to any kind of opinion, because those can be used against them later.

 

But me? Yeah, I'm making it real easy for you have any kind of opinion on just me, right? 

So what are YOUR reads on other people besides me?

It's real easy to be non-committal and hurl pot shots all day. It's another when you have to actually commit to some sort of "reads" on everyone in game.

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 3:24 AM, Shad_ said:

speaks in riddles and tongues.

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That's the WIFOM for ya.

 

Could think of half of my posts as "stream of concious" if that helps.

 

Welcome to the madness.

[Shad_]

  On 5/29/2025 at 3:23 AM, peacesells said:

I know this is sarcastic but do you really think its been town on town crime.  You've been making the case for town SD pretty hard...what about Ithi?  Her emo seemed real at the end there before she logged of.  
 

I've quoted Shad later in this post but Scum wolf in the last was a major fence sitter.  I'll explain more below.  

The 3rd vote was my vote.  I think I was clear in that regard.

Day 1 last game the two competing trains were Me(town) and SD(scum).  I saw something that tingled my spidey senses and put a third vote on him when there was no competing train.  When people didnt like how hard I was pushing for votes a train got built up on me.  

He refused to hammer me even if as a town player it would have been a plus equity play.  Legit placed a 1st vote on someone else up against the deadline so he would not be on my train.

He was obviously obtuse, at least to me.  Fence sitting etc, spouting weird stuff.  Rolling dice and talking about tarot cards as a distraction.  (Darthe a distraction maybe?)

He also played the -I'm always the lightning rod- line.  

Looks to me like he is using a different gambit but the same playbook.

Berf stole my 3rd vote so mine isn't needed now as 3 votes is enough to bring people out the wood work.

My theory on vote pressure is nullified quite a bit no coroner report.  That triggered a memory.  I'm go see if I can find something Ithi said.  

 

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I like this and you're my top village read so I'll drop it but man if he's a wolf he's certainly got an unconventional way of playing the slot lol

 

As to Ithi, I dunno, I haven't put much thought into the loss of the coroner but she's definitely the style of player I more often than not wait for flips to start reading.  Turin had her as a villager and I think he's going to be above average right or compelled to fake the same so I want to roll with that for now.  I'll only worry about w/w if I become convinced Turin's a wolf.  My hesitance to take an independent stance on Ithi is rooted in I strongly suspect she can post big and boldly as a wolf too which yields an instinct to wait and see if she's right.  I presumably won't get that opportunity in this game, so I dunno, it's day one of Day 1, I'm in no rush to solve her.  ??? will happen and things will be more clear later I'm sure.

 

As far as town on town crime, could be?  I didn't get distinctly wolf vibes from anyone but berf and that feeling diminished over the course of our conversation.  SD could be a wolf whose eccentricities coupled with a bit of exaggeration on the part of his pushers threw me off.  My head's been somewhat focused on holding people accountable with the expectation that he'll die but uhhh yeah lack of flips is a bugger isn't it.

 

There's almost always a wolf on the sidelines though.  Suspecting a lurker is just standard practice.

[Shad_]

But dead honest I'm just trying to convince myself SD is a wolf because I feel silly being the only person who doesn't if it's really that obvious.  It's not working and I still think he's a villager.  Feel free to kill him so I can either go I told you so or at least have the comfort of knowing I didn't derail a sure bet lol

[peacesells]

  On 5/29/2025 at 3:52 AM, Shad_ said:

But dead honest I'm just trying to convince myself SD is a wolf because I feel silly being the only person who doesn't if it's really that obvious.  It's not working and I still think he's a villager.  Feel free to kill him so I can either go I told you so or at least have the comfort of knowing I didn't derail a sure bet lol

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lol...if you gut feeling is correct you are gonna be waiting for that "I told you so" for quite awhile given the game setup.  

I'm gonna have to sleep on how to solve this game.  I do my best thinking in the shower so maybe I'll come up with something. 

I don't want it to be a distraction and have it discussed ad nauseum but if anyone has a solid take on how to solve, please post it.  IF SOLID.

[ed2funy]

  On 5/28/2025 at 6:36 PM, DPR said:

NANOWIFOMO is more like it 🤣

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National Novel Wine In Front Of Month 

 

or 

 

National Novel Wine In Front Of Me-O

[ed2funy]

  On 5/28/2025 at 8:30 PM, DPR said:

Night 0 Results:
 

Darthe, Coroner, has been NK’d

 

He would have had the option of choosing between Tree Stump and Restless Spirit, but he chose to Coroner himself, and thus, his alignment will be revealed…

 

Darthe was Town

 

Darthe has been removed from the game

 

The Coroner Role has been removed from the game 

 

It is now Day 1

 

With 13 players, it takes 7 to lynch

 

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Oh. My. God. Lmaooo WTH

 

okay mechanic peeps, now let’s talk???

[ed2funy]

  On 5/28/2025 at 8:43 PM, DPR said:

There are multiple roles that will reveal alignment one way or another. 

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Oh whew. Okay mechanic peeps nvm. Stfu for now

[berf]

  On 5/29/2025 at 3:23 AM, peacesells said:

The 3rd vote was my vote.  I think I was clear in that regard.

 

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Berf stole my 3rd vote so mine isn't needed now as 3 votes is enough to bring people out the wood work.

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I was rereading a bit and noticed this - was I not meant to be the 3rd vote for some reason? I totally missed that if so.

 

[dicetosser1]

  On 5/28/2025 at 3:48 PM, SinisterDeath said:

'scuse me? 

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WOOHOO!!!  im 3rd top poster!!!!

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 3:57 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I said you could spam less, not that you were the top poster. Slightly different. Kind of, if you look at it on a certain light. 

I think both of those terms could be debated. 

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seriously? You have the PERFECT setup for a classic movie line and you screw it up??

 

We should lynch you for this alone

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 9:10 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

OK, not who has which role - though that has not hurt them that much so far, but without flips how are we going to read? We can be really sus of someone, but eliminating them isn't going to tell us anything. I just have difficult time seeing how the game is going to evolve, but only one way to find out.

 

I'm not being all woe is me, lol, its just the prognosis is looking a bit bleak, though the main thing is the uncertainty of how the game will play, cos in a worst case scenario we are looking at an endlessly repeating D1, lol.

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Wasnt there a post from DPR saying something along the lines of a scum lynch would remove them? or was i drunk dreaming?

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 9:22 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Weird question about Town win condition. Asking other people to give Town/Mafia opinions on other players without giving his own. Somehow trying to say my awesome gif skills were spam when actually they were on point. Really icky 'look I'm trying to solve' posts. Nasty distancing or connecting posts because he's probably gonna get bussed.

 

 

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ok so this.

 

I read this and my gut immeadiately rumbled. It didnt like it. not sure why.

 

BUT i look back at evil ithi from that godforsaken game and think Scum ITHI isnt so belligerent

 

TOWN ithi IS however says my meta on her.

 

Putting her as a town lean. Dont fully trust cause im holding a grudge against evilithi

 

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 9:37 PM, Shad_ said:

 

I have a trust tell every time I rand wolf I just claim it incessantly and beg everyone to lynch me.

 

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It was a joke you goofs.

 

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youre lucky i  have some understanding of your humour or else heav would be right that id be voting you.

 

I also feel that your statement was true back in the day but not 100% on it

 

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 10:01 PM, Shad_ said:

SinisterDeath seems fine to me.  Probably villager.  He doesn't care if he looks bad.

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He didnt care last game either and was scum. 

 

 

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 11:55 PM, berf said:

Catching up due to Australia.

 

Dead Coroner seems perfect in that we all signed up for a DPR experience, and I don't think anything else that could have come out of N1 would so perfectly contribute to this particular DPR experience. Vibes mafia only, no mechanical help provided. Anyway. Funny.

 

Darthe was probably the first one I can remember earlier on in the thread to shake some trees and make some noise. I actually had a slight mistrustful read on him because it seemed too much too fast based on what had happened in the thread up until that time (and he fingered me!), but context clues in the thread tell me that's just Darthe being Darthe, apparently. And, well, he's flipped as town.

 

So mafia sees his posted reads early on. They couldn't have known he'd flip and clear his own ass, but they did want him dead. 

 

Was Darthe too close to the truth, or way off base and thus the death kicks off a wild goose chase? 

 

I'll go back now and check out his posts. I don't recall getting much from them during the first pass though.

 

TBC

 

 

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third option. Someone killed him jic after the last couple of games.

 

do like that Berf points out Darthe fingered him and the tone of that is good to me

 

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 1:08 AM, SinisterDeath said:

Is there a train on me right now? I'm only seeing an engine.

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I read this as a dare.

 

You DO remember what happened when Peace dared people to vote him last game right?

 

 

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 1:35 AM, Tephulis said:

A vote for inactivity is not a joke vote.  Especially with the coroner gone, people that are not here will not help town win

 

There has not been enough activity from everyone to make many judgements yet.  It's my vote and someone not here doesn't help us win.  I said I can change my vote when I see something worthwhile to change it.  You were demanding votes, so I gave you one.

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It might not be a joke vote but it isnt a good vote. Especially D1

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 2:21 AM, Shad_ said:

Tell me, people who saw him wolf last game.

 

Did his reasons make sense?

 

If hard no then ignore me and proceed with murder.

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No. they didnt   he had all that tarot card and dice roll stuff in there making it harder.

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

VOTE TEPH

 

I'm not a big fan of his vote, but we'll see how that pans out - either it is a prod to encourage activity or an elimination attempt. If the latter, don't approve at this point. Not keen on his "that's what a wolf would say" posts that don't really count as wolf hunting to me. Has been awkward in the thread, seems to be trying to coast rather than play. I'm not definitely convinced, but I would like to see reads and reasoning to get a better "feel". Asking other players to be more active and being reactive with one liners just seems like trying to go under the radar too much. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 5/29/2025 at 1:38 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

So... absolutely nothing in all the activity that has occurred has drawn your interest and you'd rather vote for an inactive.

 

Ok. I will remember this too

 

But true. At least you have voted and I thank you for that.

 

Nanight.

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@peacesells I thanked him because at least he has voted, which is more than a lot of people in this game.

 

and as i generally track people on their behaviour, a tenuous vote for sketchy reasons is more useful than no vote at all.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Sinister confuses me. The whole lightning rod thing makes him the centre of the conversation. With Darthe's read list I didn't notice Sinister wasn't on it, and if I had, I wouldn't have cared. Too easy a mistake to make, too little implication. So the claim that this now is the basis for everything that happening and the death of Darthe just seems totally wild.

 

And while it would be easy to say, this is totally not wolf behaviour, we know Sinister can play like this as a wolf, though possibly it is actually NAI. I want to say Sinister is TWTBAW, yet that was my gut feeling last time. 

 

About the only the thing I feel a little good about is that Sinister feels a bit more rattled this time than last when he was chill Pete the cat, or whatever that was. Though that might be because this game he has Ithi on his case, lol. I can can see that disconcerting a lot of people. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Morning Heavy.

 

Yeah I got a bit of a tenacious attitude when I think people are Mafia.

 

True that Sinister caught my attention with wanting to know what Towns win condition was... but all his flipflopping about since then hasn't made me feel any different. 

 

The fact that he's stayed hyper focused on defending himself from me, rather than looking for who he thinks are Mafia- cos he now has me as Town- still looks bad.

 

Seems like a good way of not spewing out team mates though. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

I would like to see more from Ithi about other players. Her "I saw one thing and I'm pushing that to the exclusion of all else" would feel a little too similar to last game. It also means there would be nothing to get a read on except that one wolf read, and everyone can be wrong about a D1 wolf read. 

 

That said I like her reasoning mostly, but my read is thrown by her antagonistic style. Will go with a town lean for now, though not without suspicions. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Morning Ithi 🙂

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Shad has improved a lot in my eyes. Saying sensible stuff. Not sure if that is actually AI but definitely feel a lot better now and his posts taste of Town when licked. No more implying stuff but what feels like totally sincere discussion. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Gud is slanking like a slanky slanker. Not the only one, but it would be good to have input other than questions about the setup/mechanics.

 

I want to know your feelsies, even your tentative initial thoughts would be good. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 5/29/2025 at 8:19 AM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I would like to see more from Ithi about other players. Her "I saw one thing and I'm pushing that to the exclusion of all else" would feel a little too similar to last game. It also means there would be nothing to get a read on except that one wolf read, and everyone can be wrong about a D1 wolf read. 

 

That said I like her reasoning mostly, but my read is thrown by her antagonistic style. Will go with a town lean for now, though not without suspicions. 

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Yeah I'm probably gonna disappoint you on that for now. Even in my last game I was actively hunting for the 3rd party.

 

I guess the other weirdness was Turin saying that the Mafia could never be given the Cop or Doc roles, but I showed that was not true and then he did some scrambling and said he meant just on Night 0.

 

There was that whole... if a Mafia was was passed a Town positive role they'd be able to give it to someone and then just kill them to remove it from the game.

 

Who said that... because that sounds like a Mafia plan to me and I never even twigged to that. If I had thought about that I certainly wouldn't have wanted to give the Mafia team good ideas on how to remove positive roles from the game.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

So I'm going to have to get used to disappointment? Such an obvious wolf, lol. 

 

Yeah, the mechanics discussions are awkward. You don't want to give them any ideas but also if you leave out an obvious play that could look forced and awkward to other people. So.... Yeah, just don't do mechanics, kids. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

I like Leelou's vote (obviously) refreshingly decisive, though more raisining would be good other than the undoubtedly true awkwardness. 

 

Raisins, people, raisins. We live and die by raisins. 

 

I'm gonna get more coffee and consider putting pants on. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 5/29/2025 at 1:53 AM, Gudrean said:

I think it's gonna be hard either way with no flips and no resolving through coroner.

I'm not keen on either trains at this point. It's only 6 hours into D1. The activity between SD and Ithi is the only real thing that has happened yet. Except for a small thing with Heavy and Ithi earlier. But neither of these things makes me want to vote for Ithi, Heavy or SD yet. 

 

@Ithillian Turambar other than the obvious SD, do you have any other players on your want to lynch list for me to consider?

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Hated this on Gud. Almost replied last night cos I hated it so much. 

 

I don't want people to wait and have other people present ideas for their consideration.  Same with the Teph being persuaded to vote someone else.

 

2nd hand vote reasons are no good. Well Ithi said this and Ithi said that and that made me think it was good to do xyz. I'm not giving anyone plausible deniability. You find your own people to vote for and your own reasons and then we can use them later on in the game to help us solve.

 

There's no flips. We can't even trust the roles that could show alignments while the busdriver is still in play.

 

So it's all old school basic Mafia and posts/votes/interactions and reasoning.

 

So you're not gonna get a list today because I want everyone to show their own workings out.

 

But if you do want a giggle... Sinister list was mostly him saying that people were posting spam. I think he just felt under pressure to make a list so made one that was super non committal- apart from me being super duper suss of course.

 

I only asked for 3 names.

 

So people don't have to make lists today but a Mafia under pressure might feel they have to.

 

All I want people to do today is vote and give a nice clear reason why they are voting for that person.

 

And in a perfect world I'd like a majority Lynch on someone.

 

Not that it matters cos we have no Coroner. 

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

  On 5/29/2025 at 8:43 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

Hated this on Gud. Almost replied last night cos I hated it so much. 

 

I don't want people to wait and have other people present ideas for their consideration.  Same with the Teph being persuaded to vote someone else.

 

2nd hand vote reasons are no good. Well Ithi said this and Ithi said that and that made me think it was good to do xyz. I'm not giving anyone plausible deniability. You find your own people to vote for and your own reasons and then we can use them later on in the game to help us solve.

 

There's no flips. We can't even trust the roles that could show alignments while the busdriver is still in play.

 

So it's all old school basic Mafia and posts/votes/interactions and reasoning.

 

So you're not gonna get a list today because I want everyone to show their own workings out.

 

But if you do want a giggle... Sinister list was mostly him saying that people were posting spam. I think he just felt under pressure to make a list so made one that was super non committal- apart from me being super duper suss of course.

 

I only asked for 3 names.

 

So people don't have to make lists today but a Mafia under pressure might feel they have to.

 

All I want people to do today is vote and give a nice clear reason why they are voting for that person.

 

And in a perfect world I'd like a majority Lynch on someone.

 

Not that it matters cos we have no Coroner. 

 

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It is strange reasoning. Like I get asking for reads, I asked Shad for a read of you as I was feeling iffy about you both at that point and getting more info about your thoughts on each other can help resolve that. 

 

But Gud says nothing has happened and asks you who should she be potentially suspicious of. That seems all kinds of backwards. Why would you thinking I'm sus, for example, help if nothing has happened? Seems strange. I blame DPR for asking for lists, lol, blasted pirates. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 5/28/2025 at 12:19 PM, Turin Turambar said:

I was having a nap, which led to having a think about something setup adjacent.  So spoilers 

After going through this, I am thinking these conclusions are obvious.  I may have missed things. If so, please point them out.

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DAMN YOU TURIN. STOP PUTTING THINGS IN SPOILERS SO PEOPLE CANT QUOTE THEM.

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 12:42 PM, berf said:

 

At any point past say, night 2, after there's whatever critical mass of dead folks, on average there's more dead town than dead mafia, that's just numbers.

 

That means votes from the dead block on average become more trustworthy? I'm thinking out loud here. This might actually mean nothing but the maths potential tricked me into thinking about it.

 

The dead voters can see the thread obviously so can be told to vote X. As a block, the dead vote should be mostly town and directable by any obvious/confirmed town remaining in game proper.

 

If dead mafia are voting with the block....???

 

Is this anything? 

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Berf says trust the dead people.

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 12:46 PM, Turin Turambar said:

That sounds valid. I guess the only thing is that the leader would have to be confirmed, which is going to be a bit difficult this game. Good thinking though.  

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Turin agrees and says trust the dead people.

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 12:50 PM, Turin Turambar said:

According to the OP, any dead player can be resurrected. 

 

@DPR, is that correct?

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You might want to have a look at this question @DPR cos you gonna answer it in a bit and your answer is not gonna match what actually happened in the game.

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 12:54 PM, berf said:

 

I think if the mafia in question is good at directing a crowd, maintaining a voice might be more powerful than keeping a single vote.

 

But the same could be said for a dead townie so I guess I'm just running in circles here.

 

I think the temptation to stay more present in the game via chatting would be moreso for me if I was playing mafia. 

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Berf says he'd prefer to stay chatty and not votey.

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 1:14 PM, berf said:

But he's ALWAYS MAFIA. It's right there!

 

RE setup speculation - my only takeaways are a) the dead vote block is likely of above average trust, and b) I think dead and voting is more powerful for town than mafia. I don't know how to use any of that yet. And thus ends the train of thought; you are indeed welcome.

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But then says actually being votey is better for the Town.

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 1:28 PM, DPR said:

Correct

 

 

Keep in mind that Coroner is a role.

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@DPR here is where you say correct to Turin's question that ANYONE can be resurrected. So... it sucks that you didn't clarify this correctly 

 

 

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 2:19 PM, SinisterDeath said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sus.

 

7 Posts right out the gate and "looks" to be "Scum hunting".
Addresses Teph, Leelou, Tig, Peace, Heavy, Dice, Turin, Ithy, Gud, Ed, Shad, and Berf. Notice anyone missing from that list?

Yep that's right. Yours truly, the lightning rod extraordinaire.. and given that he took the time to Mention every players, and then said this,

I find it interesting that he left me off that list.

Given how "rapid fire" those posts were (about 30 minutes from your first to last post)... Do I take it as a mere oversight? Or as an intentional oversight? From Mafia!Darthe? who's intentionally trying to distance himself from a known lightning rod? 😄 

 

 

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@SinisterDeath calling himself a known lightning rod is a lie. He posted pages and pages of absolute flack in the last game and they let him. He got hardly any pressure about it. He's not a lightning rod so I'm not sure why he said it. He did make this whole massive post about Darthe... just before Darthe was killed. I think it's more likely to be a clumsy attempt to distance himself away from Darthe's death.

 

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 2:28 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Dude, do you only speak in WIFOM? It is certainly possible to have roles end up in mafia hands temporarily. I doubt that any historically "town" roles like cop or doc would. That would be a big nerf to town, especially with the game starting at night.

That's not how coroner works. The player asks the MOD to reveal a dead players alignment.  Then at day start, the MOD reveals that in a statement. Otherwise,  you could never trust anyone's alignment. 

 

Misinformation like that is why people hate mechanical speculation talk.

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Talks about misinformation while giving misinformation. 

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 2:32 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Seriously.  These 3 'most Town' roles could absolutely be passed to a Mafia by mistake.

 

 

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  On 5/28/2025 at 2:33 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Why you saying stuff can't happen that absolutely could happen.

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Me calling Turin out on giving misinformation 

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 2:40 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Wut? You expect the mafia to have started with those roles. I don't think so. They could then hand the role to someone and kill them next night eliminating the role  permanently. That would be too powerful imo. 

 

If randomly done like that then the game is very swingy, again imo.

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  On 5/28/2025 at 2:49 PM, Turin Turambar said:

This should say "I doubt that any historically "town" roles would start out in  Mafia hands". That would be unfair imo for the reasons I stated.

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Turin backpeddles and say he meant Mafia would not be given those roles on Day 0. He is also the person who theorises that Mafia could be passed Town Positive Roles... give them to people and know who they gave them to and then kill those people. 

 

Maybe that is the Mafia plan and he's laying it all out for us lol.

 

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 2:54 PM, SinisterDeath said:

You might be onto something there.

 

I have no idea how DPR set the game up. He could have did a rando'd all the roles for all I know.

Or he could have put them all on townies to start. Who knows.

 

I don't think he'd put Coroner on a Mafia though, if only because allowing them to remove that from the game by the 2nd night would be too powerful... And there's plenty of other roles that the Mafia could already start with. But it still's possible that they could get these roles passed onto them by other players...

 

And speaking of.

Weren't you the one that was talking about having dead people vote instead of talking?

You know what restless spirits have a hard time doing?

Telling people where they moved their power roles to during the night, when they were lynched during the day.

It might for instance, be a very bad thing to lynch someone who might have a Coroner role...

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This is Sinister telling people that being able to talk is more powerful than being able to vote. Please don't fall for this. A vote is more powerful and people can see who voted for who in the vote counts.

 

I will say that I had a parcel and I initially tried to pass it to Berf... but when I read this I changed my mind and passed it to another person instead.

 

So... Sinister/Turin/Berf... just for these interactions.

 

Heavy did look artificial at times.

 

Town so far... Dice, Peace and Shad.

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 5/29/2025 at 1:15 AM, Tephulis said:

To tell the truth, I had made some popcorn and was enjoying the show

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Why would Town like to watch and enjoy what's happening. Wouldn't they want to positively engage and help?

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 1:16 AM, Tephulis said:

It's hard to want to make a vote when there are so many inactive players.  I'm more inclined to want to vote for a possible slanky wolf on D1

 

So, here we go:

 

Vote Tigraine

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Goes way out into left field for his vote. Despite there being a lot of relatively active players to chose from.

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 1:24 AM, Tephulis said:

Tig posts little in the beginning of the game, comes on for hammers and is active in the end.  I just don't like seeing inactivity getting a free pass.  I can def be persuaded to change my vote. 

The first post was a joke, but I see we are past the part of anyone being funny anymore.  No more jokes or photo-shopping!

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Uses reasons from the last game lmao.

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 1:31 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

You know that's not this game right. It doesn't look good when you say you are voting someone for absolutely no reasons that have occurred in this game.

 

Also I don't like that you say you can be persuaded. That smacks to me that you want someone else to take responsibility for your vote.

 

 

 

 

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me pointing out that he seems to not want to make a stance on Sinister.

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 1:35 AM, Tephulis said:

A vote for inactivity is not a joke vote.  Especially with the coroner gone, people that are not here will not help town win

 

There has not been enough activity from everyone to make many judgements yet.  It's my vote and someone not here doesn't help us win.  I said I can change my vote when I see something worthwhile to change it.  You were demanding votes, so I gave you one.

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Why you feel pressure to vote? There's not enough activity to get a feel from the active players, but there is enough from the inactive player.

 

Maybe Leelou was right and that's why both votes stayed at 1 for so long.

 

I could easily switch out Berf and make it Sinister/Turin/Teph

 

And that would push Leelou into my Town list.