90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[DPR]

3 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

So where exactly are you at now @Ithillian Turambar ?

 

Do you still feel the same, better or worse about Heavy and why? Sam's with Dice without factoring in the claim.

 

Do you believe both claims btw?

I’d forgotten that dice’s first lolvote was on Heavy. 

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Funny, this looks like what you hate the most...

 

No because it's not got 50000000000 words to read and also Im really trying to keep my list count down so when I'm reading back Imma try Mq'ing 

[DPR]

2 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

That was a joke. Sorry I didn't finish with lolololololol but I have told by my lawyer I run the risk of copyright infringement. And it was Tigs honesty that cut so deeply, misrepper! 

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Lololololololol

 

And then this - this feels slimy for both of them

[DPR]

2 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

@keyholder21

As requested, here is the DPR quote. I could actually just search for it. Though it was slightly more nuanced than I remember, here is where he was walking back his "in no world is Dice Town" or whatever he was saying. I don't see how this kind of misrepping and confusion army tactics can be viewed positively. 

Aaannnddd the obligatory post about me. I really am gonna have to send this kid a signed poster. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

I asked Tig why she had Heavy as her biggest suspect previously but then came along and voted Marsh.

 

8 hours ago, Tigraine said:

 

I wasn't asking Iron to reveal the role PM.  Just wondering it the one specifying the part about the condemner knowing the character name.  It may be nothing, like I said, but I don't like to assume that something means something when it doesn't say it.  Darthes clarification doesn't say that the condemner would know the character... it doesn't say they won't.   But Turin said they did.  So if one player was given information about a role that is not theirs, then it's something we should all know.  The games you played with Turin? Was he scum? Have you ever played with him where he wasn't town? If so, was gameplay different or no?  

 

Heavy is still up on my list. As I was reading the stuff about his supposed slip, that's when I came across, maybe you, had quoted Turin.  While I was reading his quotes, I saw that about the condemner knowing the random character.  It pinged right then with Darthes clarification and the addition to the OP.  Everyone was making such a big deal out of the fact that Heavy used the word "random" as did the OP but in a different context.  So seeing the word "character" in a different context stood out.  The moment i saw that, I thought it was a slip of some sort.  

 

Nyns question of why would Turin tell us that if he was the condemner and needed to find a specific character, because he went on to say maybe we shouldn't name characters, was a really good point.   But it doesn't mean I'm wrong that he isn't town.  Maybe he is.  Maybe he misunderstood exactly what Darthe meant and paraphrased wrong.  Maybe he's mafia and has some other reason to not want people to out their names so he used the uncertainty of the condemner specifics to get that out there while looking like a good little townie....I honestly don't know but there is something not right about it.

 

That why I was trying to get Darthe to clarify if that part is correct or hoped they had forwarded the specific PM that Turin received.  With Turin not being here, I can't get the clarification I need to put it to rest in my mind. 

 

As for my suspicions of marsh...idk.  it's hard for me to move past the sus when i cant find out if Turin just misinterpreted accidentally, if Darthe forgot to give us all the info, or if Turin had reasons to want everyone to believe that the condemner knows the specific character. 

 

 

I am still sure that I knew the target was random from the very start. I didn't really think about what a condemner actually was until I remember Turin saying he'd made a mistake on it and then I went and actually looked it up. I can't remember what the role description said before the whole clarification from Darthe went down.

 

I do know that at the time i thought it was super helpful of Turin to get the actual way the role worked out into the game.

 

if it had been traditional condemner, then the person would have the player name they needed to be on the lynch for. It helped me change tack on things to look for.

 

but then Turin played the whole thing out in the game, along with the 'has a random character to shoot/target' and told everyone not to give their real names. This is a very Town play.

 

and so when there was some discussion by tig about maybe it actually wasnt, i went back to find receipts. Cos I think she is Mafia and she was just going along with the latest trend in voting Marsh, having forgotten she had Heavy as suspect number 1 previously.

 

So there is the whole multikill thing from Turin and then DPR saying yeah, it dont work like that you know.

 

and at the time I was uh-oh... cos I do not have a 3rd suspect anymore and thought I'd stumbled across something. But I still felt real uncomfortable about it because I strongly had Turin as Town cos i am super aware of how he plays. And yeah I know it's Marsh now so he gets the benefit of that.

 

But i now absolutely think i was jumping at shadows, just cos i need to find that 3rd person.

 

If Turin had misunderstood what the role was, because of it converting to a serial killer if their target is removed by other means, i could absolutely see him going on the hunt to Darthe for game mechanic confirmation.  Because he loves his game mechanics and he needs to know exactly how they work. And once he had them he told the whole town.

 

And if Turin had actually been the condemner he would not have done maths showing what the odds were excluding the Mafia, because in either version of the condemner it's a random target ... confirmed by Darthe ... and he would not have cobbled that I to his mechanics need to know how it works chatter.

 

So I am glad that was pointed out cos I did not like feeling back and forth about a player I had firmly in my town list.

 

7 hours ago, Tigraine said:

@Ithillian Turambar maybe Turin assumed the condemner would need to know based on his understanding of the role and therefore warned everyone not to use the character names.  I just really don't know and that's what has me so stuck.  

 

You cant say he did this, cos if he was the condemner he absolutely would want everyone to start shooting off their character names. See you are actually saying he was warning people

 

and yet you changed from your biggest suspect being Heavy and voted Marsh.

 

I hadn't even had my wobble at the point you voted Marsh.

 

2 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

So where exactly are you at now @Ithillian Turambar ?

 

Do you still feel the same, better or worse about Heavy and why? Sam's with Dice without factoring in the claim.

 

Do you believe both claims btw?

 

 

Sorry about the WoT zander.

 

Where I am at is that Heavy has felt off to me since day 1. I absolutely would vote Heavy right now apart from I think it's better to have competing trains this time, so we can actually see people making choices instead of just following along. I have both Tigs and Heavy as Mafia... and yeah I guess Heavy could be 3rd Party

 

But I'm gonna Vote Tig and see what shakes out.

 

Absolutely 100% will change to Heavy.

 

I dont have a 3rd person.

 

With regards to the current claims

 

Dice is claimed cop. I still think that is likely although apparently I'm a derp and a Mafia going down always claims cop.

 

If he is being roleblocked then at some point the Mafia are gonna have to kill him, which will auto confirm him, or they are gonna have to use their RB to kill DPR ... who I do believe is Town and therefore likely the Hider.

 

At which point Dice is gonna get a read though. But if DPR dies then even fake cop Dice would know to say he wasn't roleblocked and would give a read.

 

And I still don't understand why Dice would tell me I'd got the Ed/roleblock/proof of protection thing wrong during that whole scenario 

 

He'd not be so obvious to protect a team mate though... so that might have just been panic mode. Cos if one claimed role can be Lynched then he's worried he could be next and he IS the cop lol.

 

I think I still have to go with my 1st thought on Dice and say he is likely to be the Cop.

[Nynaeve]

3 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

Like Keys looked pretty good all game but I said way earlier I had her or Nyn as my possible DeepWolves as Ive felt they've been pretty Towny but this post pinged me and I'm not even sure I can explain why, like maybe I feel like she wouldn't question some of this stuff maybe I dunno maybe lolZander or maybe lolzanderreasons but it does and I can't really explain better not shake it ATM...maybe i.just need sleep lol.

 

I can sort of understand where you're coming from. Comes across as very focused dialogue with heavy. Only since it seems a bit of a waste of time to me I eventually started skimming it because I am trying to prevent my brain from going squish. I'm not getting anything out of it, personally.

 

I said it several times in previous posts and my read lists. Key is definitely my candidate for deepwolf. Others seem towny cause of pure wim, like rand did. Verb as well. She's just very methodical and logical, which strikes my fancies but we'll see I guess.

[Zander?]

2 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

That was a joke. Sorry I didn't finish with lolololololol but I have told by my lawyer I run the risk of copyright infringement. And it was Tigs honesty that cut so deeply, misrepper! 

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Lololololololol

 

 

You're lawyer gave you sound advice the lawsuit coming y'all's way is gonna cost y'all a boatload of money!!!!!!

 

Lololololol 

[Ithillian Turambar]

19 minutes ago, Zander? said:

Just on my way home from grabbing a coffee at Timmy's lol

Watch out for the Moose!

[Nynaeve]

2 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

Hey Zander!

 

you just did a WoT…..

 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Get out of my head, fiend!

[DPR]

On 4/19/2025 at 4:28 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

vote iron eyes for being a scummy lawyer and making poor court clerks life hard
 

 

thanks!

 

scummy fake attempt at 2nd vote…

 

 

 

@Nynaeve the Bands coming alive again.

 

eebe got Cairos, Jen, Mayleigh and even Davrick!!!

 Plus a couple newbies

Correction - I went back to look and dice first voted Marsh. 

[Zander?]

2 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

I asked Tig why she had Heavy as her biggest suspect previously but then came along and voted Marsh.

 

 

I am still sure that I knew the target was random from the very start. I didn't really think about what a condemner actually was until I remember Turin saying he'd made a mistake on it and then I went and actually looked it up. I can't remember what the role description said before the whole clarification from Darthe went down.

 

I do know that at the time i thought it was super helpful of Turin to get the actual way the role worked out into the game.

 

if it had been traditional condemner, then the person would have the player name they needed to be on the lynch for. It helped me change tack on things to look for.

 

but then Turin played the whole thing out in the game, along with the 'has a random character to shoot/target' and told everyone not to give their real names. This is a very Town play.

 

and so when there was some discussion by tig about maybe it actually wasnt, i went back to find receipts. Cos I think she is Mafia and she was just going along with the latest trend in voting Marsh, having forgotten she had Heavy as suspect number 1 previously.

 

So there is the whole multikill thing from Turin and then DPR saying yeah, it dont work like that you know.

 

and at the time I was uh-oh... cos I do not have a 3rd suspect anymore and thought I'd stumbled across something. But I still felt real uncomfortable about it because I strongly had Turin as Town cos i am super aware of how he plays. And yeah I know it's Marsh now so he gets the benefit of that.

 

But i now absolutely think i was jumping at shadows, just cos i need to find that 3rd person.

 

If Turin had misunderstood what the role was, because of it converting to a serial killer if their target is removed by other means, i could absolutely see him going on the hunt to Darthe for game mechanic confirmation.  Because he loves his game mechanics and he needs to know exactly how they work. And once he had them he told the whole town.

 

And if Turin had actually been the condemner he would not have done maths showing what the odds were excluding the Mafia, because in either version of the condemner it's a random target ... confirmed by Darthe ... and he would not have cobbled that I to his mechanics need to know how it works chatter.

 

So I am glad that was pointed out cos I did not like feeling back and forth about a player I had firmly in my town list.

 

 

You cant say he did this, cos if he was the condemner he absolutely would want everyone to start shooting off their character names. See you are actually saying he was warning people

 

and yet you changed from your biggest suspect being Heavy and voted Marsh.

 

I hadn't even had my wobble at the point you voted Marsh.

 

 

 

Sorry about the WoT zander.

 

Where I am at is that Heavy has felt off to me since day 1. I absolutely would vote Heavy right now apart from I think it's better to have competing trains this time, so we can actually see people making choices instead of just following along. I have both Tigs and Heavy as Mafia... and yeah I guess Heavy could be 3rd Party

 

But I'm gonna Vote Tig and see what shakes out.

 

Absolutely 100% will change to Heavy.

 

I dont have a 3rd person.

 

With regards to the current claims

 

Dice is claimed cop. I still think that is likely although apparently I'm a derp and a Mafia going down always claims cop.

 

If he is being roleblocked then at some point the Mafia are gonna have to kill him, which will auto confirm him, or they are gonna have to use their RB to kill DPR ... who I do believe is Town and therefore likely the Hider.

 

At which point Dice is gonna get a read though. But if DPR dies then even fake cop Dice would know to say he wasn't roleblocked and would give a read.

 

And I still don't understand why Dice would tell me I'd got the Ed/roleblock/proof of protection thing wrong during that whole scenario 

 

He'd not be so obvious to protect a team mate though... so that might have just been panic mode. Cos if one claimed role can be Lynched then he's worried he could be next and he IS the cop lol.

 

I think I still have to go with my 1st thought on Dice and say he is likely to be the Cop.

 

 

Vote Ithi for WoTing at me!!!!!!

[Zander?]

2 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

Hey Zander!

 

you just did a WoT…..

 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

11 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Funny, this looks like what you hate the most...

 

 

 

Alright to heck with y'all I'm lifting my self imposed post count restriction!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Prepare for the incoming Spamfall!!!

[Nynaeve]

5 minutes ago, DPR said:

Aaannnddd the obligatory post about me. I really am gonna have to send this kid a signed poster. 

 

Ok. But sign it with "always", in honor of snape's undying love for lily 💕

[Zander?]

Just now, Nynaeve said:

 

Ok. But sign it with "always", in honor of snape's undying love for lily 💕

 

Why did you have to go and kick me right in the feels!?!?!???!

[Ithillian Turambar]

3 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

 

Vote Ithi for WoTing at me!!!!!!

I said sorry!

[Nynaeve]

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

 

 

 

Alright to heck with y'all I'm lifting my self imposed post count restriction!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Prepare for the incoming Spamfall!!!

 

Don't you dare.

So very prickly 😛

[Zander?]

4 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Watch out for the Moose!

 

The Moose know to watch out for me not the other way around..... LOLOLOLOL 

[Zander?]

Just now, Nynaeve said:

 

Don't you dare.

So very prickly 😛

 

Well I am a Drama Queen!!!!!!

 

Lololololo

[Zander?]

Just now, Ithillian Turambar said:

I said sorry!

 

Nope that's it last straw lololololol 

[Nynaeve]

Just now, Zander? said:

 

Why did you have to go and kick me right in the feels!?!?!???!

 

Fine.

It'll be a nude pic of Wes in the poster and the word will be stratigically placed on his junk.

 

Better?

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

1 minute ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Fine.

It'll be a nude pic of Wes in the poster and the word will be stratigically placed on his junk.

 

Better?

Aww.i was just saving a spot on my dartboard. But even my kinks don't go that far. 

 

Spammy morning so far. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

So, regarding Key's in depth assassination of my DPR case, which so annoyed DPR that he has to post about me constantly now, if I put my tinfoil hat on, perhaps her goal indeed wasn't defending DPR at all. Perhaps she was trying to orchestrate a subtle push towards my miselimination, by not attacking me directly anf therefore showing any excitement at my demise but to contribute to the "Heavy is a force of evil" narrative in a subtle way. 

 

Or of course she was just analysing it honestly in a shocking case of "player in a mafia game doing what they actually say they are" but I think we all know how unlikely that is. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

I don't even wanna quote that @Nynaeve cos it'd mean I'd have to read it twice every time lol

 

But yeah, thanks for that mind picture.

 

Still think we need a nope! Reaction.

 

Maybe that could be Bela?

 

And fine! I have laughed at your most excellent joke @DPR

[DPR]

9 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

 

 

 

Alright to heck with y'all I'm lifting my self imposed post count restriction!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Prepare for the incoming Spamfall!!!

NOOOOOOOOO 😳😫😭 🤣

 

9 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Ok. But sign it with "always", in honor of snape's undying love for lily 💕

 

Yeah, you’ve had a Heroine vibe going all game. You’re rereading HP in between posts aren’t you. 
 

7 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Fine.

It'll be a nude pic of Wes in the poster and the word will be stratigically placed on his junk.

 

Better?

 

OMFG

[DPR]

How about I just start a Cameo account and for $5 I’ll throw zingers at you and then wish you a happy birthday?