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[Turin Turambar]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:18 PM, Gudrean said:

does this mean who jumps on what bandwagon?

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Yes. Along with when, How their vote was made, what their choices were, and maybe a couple other dozen things I've forgotten. 

[Zander?]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:18 PM, Gudrean said:

does this mean who jumps on what bandwagon?

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No my dear at the end of the phase the Mid posts the final Vote count.

 

Each person being voted has what we call a train (the players voting someone). Even if a player has 1 vote it's still a train just not a viable one to get lunched that day.  Wagonomics is the study of the these trains once we see the flip of the person who was lunched  and it's continued to be looked at as more flips (dead players and or mechanically cleared via PR players) along with the Trains of each day going forward.

 

Odds are if on D1 say more often than not (not always) but moreso there usually at least 1 Wolf on a mislunch train(where town lunches a Towny).  And if a Wolf is lunched we can glean likely Townies and even other Scum who bussed.  And we compare these to our own reads and thread consensus reads. I may not be best at explaining this but hope it helps and ask any questions you may have.

[Zander?]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:27 PM, Zander? said:

 

No my dear at the end of the phase the Mid posts the final Vote count.

 

Each person being voted has what we call a train (the players voting someone). Even if a player has 1 vote it's still a train just not a viable one to get lunched that day.  Wagonomics is the study of the these trains once we see the flip of the person who was lunched  and it's continued to be looked at as more flips (dead players and or mechanically cleared via PR players) along with the Trains of each day going forward.

 

Odds are if on D1 say more often than not (not always) but moreso there usually at least 1 Wolf on a mislunch train(where town lunches a Towny).  And if a Wolf is lunched we can glean likely Townies and even other Scum who bussed.  And we compare these to our own reads and thread consensus reads. I may not be best at explaining this but hope it helps and ask any questions you may have.

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There's more to it but just kinda giving you the in general idea first.   Like the player in a hammer game for example wouldn't be cleared if it's a Wolf that was lunched because the dead players May have been the only option to be lunched that day and Wolves a lot of the times so that for Town credit knowing their mates dead regardless is one of quite a few others.

[Cass]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:04 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

We're playing the game that's literally referred to as an internet game of Guess Who.  heh

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Yeeeahhh, but does Dice ever choose the player who wears glasses becomes a key internal question.

 

And you're on the money for Cory/Shad's ability to dominate, I think it's because their brains can run with GOAT style 1.5 

 

Is that trainable? Iunno, I can't stop chasing squirrels instead of counting trees.

[Cairos]

So a read on a person is by looking at their post and the tone of the post? 

[Zander?]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:29 PM, Zander? said:

 

There's more to it but just kinda giving you the in general idea first.   Like the player in a hammer game for example the player that hammered (was the finally vote the lunch of the player for that day who got the most votes of majority voted) wouldn't be cleared if it's a Wolf necessarily that was lunched because the dead player May have been the only option to be lunched that day and Wolves a lot of the times so that for Town credit knowing their mates dead regardless is one of quite a few others.

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I don't wanna fix posts but in this instances I need to to make it make sense.

[Zander?]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:32 PM, Cairos said:

So a read on a person is by looking at their post and the tone of the post? 

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 The read is do you think a certain player is a Towny or a Wolf Or Null atp (null means unsure either way and why you think it.

[Cass]

  On 3/13/2025 at 2:20 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Something feels very insincere about the people being too nice and trusting of each other. Feels like it is rubbing me the wrong way. The falling over themselves to try to clear each other and trust each other to the death sorta deal. 

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Come to the Light side. It took me forever to realise Coreh was right to believe in the odds are Town.

[Gudrean]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:19 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I guess to me as apparently an old school player you're coming across very innocent and like unintending to offend, with a focus on achieving reciprocal clearance of being deemed to be town and considering some else town. 

 

Basically a bit of trying too hard to be everyone's friend and make yourself look innocent and very light on reads and sharing your own insights. All marred by this being your second game so a lot can easily get chalked up to that, for better or worse

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I'm not sure that was what I was asking? I wasn't looking for a read on ME I was asking how you played the game in the past. I'm looking for actual rules and guidelines of how it's played.

[Cairos]

Thanks Zander for the clarification and I really appreciate it. 

[Zander?]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:33 PM, Zander? said:

 The read is do you think a certain player is a Towny or a Wolf Or Null atp (null means unsure either way and why you think it.

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Like for example I have a Town read on Shad ATM.  A read can of course change but it's the alignment you have a player and why basically.  You may see the word lean as well

 

Like someone may say I have a Town lean on Zander ATM. It's kinda like a less certain than a read maybe the best way to explain it?  Maybe somehow else can answer that better.

[Turin Turambar]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:32 PM, Cass said:

 

Yeeeahhh, but does Dice ever choose the player who wears glasses becomes a key internal question.

 

And you're on the money for Cory/Shad's ability to dominate, I think it's because their brains can run with GOAT style 1.5 

 

Is that trainable? Iunno, I can't stop chasing squirrels instead of counting trees.

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But the WIFOM is does Dice know what you think he will do? It is a fact that if you know his "meta", he knows it too and thus can abuse it. Most good players can do this.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Official Vote Count

 

ZANDER - 1 (Heavy)

LENLO - 1 (Verbal)

RTE - 2 (Dice, Zander)

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Cass, Gudrean, RTE, Turin, Shad, Lenlo

 

Day 1 will end 10pm GMT Friday 14 March.

 

D1 Timer

 

https://stagetimer.io/r/UVDHPDFH/

 

This is a Deadline Game. This means whoever has the most votes at Deadline will be Lynched. Don't be shouting at me to do multi vote counts. If there is a Tie, RandomOrg will decide. It's in your interest to not leave Lynches up to chance.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Just over 30 hours till end of Day 1

[Zander?]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:37 PM, Turin Turambar said:

But the WIFOM is does Dice know what you think he will do? It is a fact that if you know his "meta", he knows it too and thus can abuse it. Most good players can do this.

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100% agree tho with a caveat, in spots and for so long...it's really hard to mimic meta as opposite alignment and sustain it till late in game or end game. Not impossible obviously but it's quite true usually for most everyplayer.

[Turin Turambar]

Agreed, but the WIFOM is why you see people covered in double wrapped tinfoil. 

[Zander?]

HAHA I'M SO VILLAGERY I JUST WON 2 BACK TO BACK FREE COFFEES ON TIM HORTONS ROLL UP THE RIM TO WIN !!!!!!

 

SO FAR IN THE MONTH LONG EVENT I'VE WON 6 FREE COFFEES, 2 FREE DONUTS, A FREE 2 MONTH SUBSCRIPTION TO TSN PLUS TV CHANNELS AND A FREE 6 MONTH SUBSCRIPTION TO SIRIUSXM APP!!!!!

[Zander?]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:50 PM, Zander? said:

HAHA I'M SO VILLAGERY I JUST WON 2 BACK TO BACK FREE COFFEES ON TIM HORTONS ROLL UP THE RIM TO WIN !!!!!!

 

SO FAR IN THE MONTH LONG EVENT I'VE WON 6 FREE COFFEES, 2 FREE DONUTS, A FREE 2 MONTH SUBSCRIPTION TO TSN PLUS TV CHANNELS AND A FREE 6 MONTH SUBSCRIPTION TO SIRIUSXM APP!!!!!

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And over the previous 3 years worth of month long roll up the rims at Tim's I won 3 free coffee and 1 free donut with winning absolutely nothing in year 2 of the 3 year drought lololololol 

[Gudrean]

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:53 PM, Zander? said:

 

And over the previous 3 years worth of month long roll up the rims at Tim's I won 3 free coffee and 1 free donut with winning absolutely nothing in year 2 of the 3 year drought lololololol 

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What's a roll up the rims at Tim's?

[Cairos]

So Zander why did you vote for RTE? Can you give me an example on your read of him and why? Maybe that’ll help me be better at reading people. 

[Shad_]

Wagonomics never make sense to me with a field this small because any given individual has a high chance to deviate from expectations.

 

They certainly hold weight in big games.  The patterns are true and actionable on a larger scale.

[Shad_]

  On 3/12/2025 at 10:18 PM, Verbal32 said:

Ah, ok.  I think we just use the term meta differently.  So you're saying you're a "gut player" and not an "analytical player".

 

Meta is what works, aka the "most effective tactics available", or what playstyle is working best at the time.  So, your meta is to use your gut to read players.  Cool beans, I can get down with that.

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I don't think I have ever seen the word spelled out that way lol

 

"Meta" is usually used in its dictionary sense, this in context being the application of data on the person generating the content.

[Shad_]

RTE's summary on p33 clicks with a number of unexpressed leans I've had and I can definitely see his role fishing as twtbaw given how blatant he was about it. 

 

Back to neutral for you.

[Shad_]

wrt me being in catch-up mode

 

Get used to it because I am a notoriously slow reader lol

 

This is why I typically play a style of Werewolf that does not require or expect you to read most of the posts.

[Shad_]

  On 3/13/2025 at 5:58 AM, Zander? said:

 

Is Verbs thought process about his plan only Wolfy if Tracker not Watcher iyo Shad and why? 

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In tracker land it's saying "Hey town PR, you should totally use your ability on [player who would almost certainly never, if wolf, carry the kill.]"  It serves a wolf agenda in a lowkey way that wolves actually do often (unlike say, RTE's very blatant fishing which throws caution to the wind).

 

But we're in watcher land.

 

But Verb thought we were in tracker land.

 

But it turned out actually almost no one in the thread knew what they were doing including myself so I'm tempted to just dismiss the thought entirely lol