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[Ithillian Turambar]

[Zander?]

Ok i guess i gotta start determine 2 things.  Did Wolves start this weaksauce push against me and Towns being lead by evil pied Piper's or did wrong Villas did and Wolves jumped on.

 

I know y'all can't be Wolves but there's min 1 Wolf on me and depending on the Wolf team I could see them be like let's try and mislynch Zander for lols.   

 

I know how bad Turin is at reading me so there's definitely a chance he's just wrong yet again. 

 

Shads hedging or kinda fence sitting ATM leaving an opening for a push but I know he always took his time and really evaluated me so Imma see how that progresses.

 

Dice in worried about because he's so good at reading me and he's definitely in the category I mentioned depending on the Wolf team let's see if we can mislynch Zander if he's a Wolf but I have concern here with him especially because he's not dug in yet (tho that may be work related). But also I haven't seen any of those real hard Dicey posts yet that make me go Dice prolly Town.  He's the one I'm most conflicted on 

 

That leaves Verb and Lenlo.

 

Verb kinda in same boat as Shad But i don't recall Verbs play as well as Shads but I can easily see a world Wolf!Verb leaves an opening for a later push.

 

Lenlos obviously bad reason for starting to sus me looks by far the worst of all.  Went into multipost back and forth using a very obvious joke as the reasoning said my responses were scummy etc yet wasn't voting me till I called him on it.  I think he looks the worst of them.  Maybe it's just lol Town!Lenlo. But gth if I have to say which is a Wolf it's him 

There's no worldview where 5 townies are this wrong with such bad reasoning alot of which is completely against Mafia principles, Meta and knowledge of past stuffs and stuff that's completely NAI at worst.

 

[Gudrean]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:18 PM, Zander? said:

 

But I'm Batman!!!!!!

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Not Today!

[Zander?]

  On 3/12/2025 at 1:55 PM, Gudrean said:

So no group hug then I'm guessing?

 

Did ya at least like my pic? 😁

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*Huggles*. Sorry hard to hug inside your pocket lolololol

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

  On 3/12/2025 at 1:55 PM, Gudrean said:

So no group hug then I'm guessing?

 

Did ya at least like my pic? 😁

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A mama wolf is still wolf, Gud 😄

[Turin Turambar]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:09 PM, Zander? said:

 

1.Where have I trolled you at all?

 

2.The town leader thing was last game.

 

3.Not sure the the @ing me reference means.

 

4.Please elaborate on this whole Lenlo sketched out you with easy Town read but you have him upper Town?  

 

Like seriously I know y'all can't be Wolves like wtf?!????   Lololololol

 

5.What's happenes If I get mislynched and flip Town there's a Vig and an NK from Wolves too and a Watcher...or is it Vig OR Watcher?

Y'all gonna hear like almost 11 wrong Townies Zander so bad claims.  Give thy heads a shake, and if Villlagers get it figured out and quick before we fall behind.

 

6.Zander makes jokes last game Town

Zander makes jokes this game Zander must be a Wolf....I know I suck at the Maths but this is NAI at worst.....like this is all starts over me joking about lunching Dice while sleeping 

 

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Anyone still wanna.... lolololol.

 

.Lenlo- OMG HES KICKING HIS EVIL WOLFY MASTERPLAN INTO EFFECT.

 

 

 

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my numbers for clarity 

1. I took all of your first 5 pages or so where you said basically everything I posted was wolfy to be trolling? We're you being serious? 

 

2. I was trying to explain where I was coming from last game.  Why you were so suspicious to me. I noted your level of leadership was lower but the end of your Lenlo argument read to me as you saying that no good villager could possibly find you sketch. This plays into psychology and it is a tactic I do associate with the TOWN LEADER players. 

 

3. You being after me, just the general back and forth of the previous game.

 

4. Lenlo's post about T/T bothered me because it's too early imo for him to make that read,  and there hadn't been much to our interactions.  His explanation made sense to.me and the way he handled himself with you seemed pretty good. None of these reads are really very strong, with Shad being my strongest  Town read and you being my strongest  mafia read (and that isn't very strong tbh)

5. We try to regroup and take your stances into account. Reread your posts (torturous as that might be), and study how people interacted with you. If I was the vig I would only shoot tonight if I felt confident, meaning no YOLO shot.

6. It's not because you made a joke about it. It's because it was a suggestion. I think it is inconclusive because it couldn't continue due to RTE noting there is no hammer this game. Adding it to the other things that bothered me has you as my most likely mafia at this point. The other two things of note off the cuff were the "bad villager" line and when Len made what seemed a valid point you just said that didn't matter. It felt like moving goalposts.  

[Lenlo]

  On 3/12/2025 at 9:55 AM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

But Z, none of that would entail that you need to have a 6 page rant about the post. By all means be suspicious of Lenlo, vote for him, remind people of his behaviour. But you don't need to keep going on about it. But anyway, I think I've said that enough as well. 

 

I get the feeling the wolves are being quiet. Odds are heavily in their favour D1 it seems to me as long as they do nothing ridiculously suspicious. But stuff will start to polarize at EoD, which is quite some time away. 

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Heavy makes a good point here imo. Day 1 is heavily scum favored, they just need to sit back and odds are active, engaged villagers devour at least one of their own while trying to shake things out. That's a normal, easy play to make that gets a first day lynch for them but imo doesn't pay off in the long run.

 

My head says that with this many oldies, they'd know it doesn't pay off and get involved, but my gut says easy early wins are really appealing. Does that mean we should lynch afk/low active posters? No, but we should poke and prod and prompt them and not let them get away with coasting while town tears itself apart.

[Gudrean]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:37 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

A mama wolf is still wolf, Gud 😄

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[Zander?]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:05 PM, Gudrean said:

Given time I'm sure I can show my non scumminess. Not sure how at this point and I haven't gotten any good reads on anybody but Shad yet. I feel he is town atp and is on my no lynch list for now.

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Why Shad atp?  Shads one of the best players in the game and his good as both alignments.

 

Also I saw you defending me which was sweet but might cause you to get some suss from the thread but it felt more about me the person as me the player.

 

What's your take on me ATP and why?

[Lenlo]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:35 PM, Zander? said:

There's no worldview where 5 townies are this wrong with such bad reasoning alot of which is completely against Mafia principles, Meta and knowledge of past stuffs and stuff that's completely NAI at worst.

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Yeah, if you make things up and draw conclusions that dont exist, I imagine it would come off as bad reasoning and principles. Stop focusing on past metas/games most of us werent in and focus on this one.

[Zander?]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:07 PM, Turin Turambar said:

This pic? Great thought that at the end of the day everyone hugs it out. I guess it could be a timeout (30second).

 

*hugs everyone,  town and.wolves alike*

 

Okay,  game on!!!

 

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Great picture BTW, why is everyone Batman? and something looks wrong with their arms, how many people/wolves in there?

 

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Not on your life would I ever hug a Wolf....well wait that's not true...I'd hug it's throat with my noose and or bare hands absolutely as hard as possible but that's it!!!!

 

Lololololol

[Zander?]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:40 PM, Lenlo said:

Yeah, if you make things up and draw conclusions that dont exist, I imagine it would come off as bad reasoning and principles. Stop focusing on past metas/games most of us werent in and focus on this one.

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Except I didn't and haven't so you can keep trying to misrep me.

 

And you know I'm a Meta/Gut player and there's many here in this game.  So don't bother trying to tell me how to play unless you listen to me telling you that if you're a Villager stop acting  so Wolfy lolololol 

[Zander?]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:09 PM, Lenlo said:

Yeah, thats not good. Honestly I completely agree with RTE. Regardless of if Zander is town or wolf, he's the biggest detriment to town atm because his posts are generally nonsensical, inconsistent within themselves, and filled with so much emotional vibe-based bs that its just a pain, not to mention their volume. Is that worth lynching someone over? I dunno. Add in the all of the other arguments though? Maybe. 

 

For now though we have 2 more days, I wanna get off this train Zander has forced us onto with his tunnel and see if we can't sniff out anything more promising.

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Ya I'm a real detriment to Town we should compare Win/lose records as Villagers lolololol.   See this kinda BS Wolfy taking down crap only confirms my read.  Lens doing the whole like he's trying to look and act better than it and walking away while very purposeful egging me on.  He's played enough to know I'm never the type to easily let something go or back down especially when it's related to me.

[Turin Turambar]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:14 PM, Zander? said:

 

Bahhhhhh bahhhhhh where's that sheep i hear?!?!?!!  Lolllolol

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Not sure what you mean here. Would you clarify please?

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:14 PM, Zander? said:

 

No my point was one of Turin reasons for sussing me this game was the town leader stick which wasn't this game it was last game lol

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I think that I was trying to explain my mindset in that game. It is apparently distracting so I'm gonna drop it.

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:16 PM, Zander? said:

 

Was also Town that game fwiw.  So the town leader stick would be NAI as it would be easy to do/mimic as either alignment.

 

Like again this all really basic Mafia principles again and it just blows my mind people can't grasp except wolves who obviously just push for whatever they can

 

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My point is that the TOWN LEADER shtick is anti-town in itself due to the ease it can be abused. The fallback of "bad town" is troubling.

 

And I didn't quote it , but I have been mafia with you and I know you can plan.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:39 PM, Gudrean said:

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Captain, the cuteness sensors are overloading! The ship cannot take it! 

 

Switch to emergency power, and redirect the lateral shields! We cannot let this sneaky wolf attack overwhelm us! 

 

She's gonnae blow, Cap'n! 

 

ABANDON SHIP! ABANDON SHIP! 

[Gudrean]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:39 PM, Zander? said:

 

Why Shad atp?  Shads one of the best players in the game and his good as both alignments.

 

Also I saw you defending me which was sweet but might cause you to get some suss from the thread but it felt more about me the person as me the player.

 

What's your take on me ATP and why?

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Shad might be an amazing player but I'm just using my intuition powers atm to say he feels town, that might change. 

 

You Zander might be wolf, I'm not sure yet as I've only played with you as a townie so I need better reads. I WAS indeed reading YOU the person, not you the player. 

 

My first read on Verb was wolf but I really don't know him either so I'm gonna need a lot more stuffs to read.

 

Lenlo is a back and forth for me atp.

 

Turin so far seems town

 

Dice has same meta as me so it might interfere with my thingy

 

Cass is the bestest girl so I have her town for the time being

 

RTE seems more like boss for me so I'm leaning town leader vibes

 

Cairos feels the same as last game so far but that doesn't make him wolf

 

did I miss anyone?

 

Oh yeah Heavy - he is reading a little sus atm but not for any good reason, but he could be town as well

 

yeah yeah I know not very helpful - sawwy

[Zander?]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:21 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I probably shouldn't be asking this, but Zander I don't remember where but did you also hint at you being the vigilante? Something about a gun. 

 

While I don't want the mafia to know who the vigilante is, I'd rather we didn't lynch them D1 before they could shoot N1. Besides, if you aren't scum, would be stupid for mafia to kill you.

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You hear of fishing?!?!?  That's what this is.  I'm nowhere close to being lunched at this point and if I were a PR I'd never ever out myself unless it was DL and I was likely a lunch canidate.

 

I hate this post from RTE like really bad....I'm trying literally to decide if he's obv Fishing outting himself or TWTBAW or trying to purposely look TWTBAW.

 

PINGPINGPING

[Zander?]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:50 PM, Gudrean said:

Shad might be an amazing player but I'm just using my intuition powers atm to say he feels town, that might change. 

 

You Zander might be wolf, I'm not sure yet as I've only played with you as a townie so I need better reads. I WAS indeed reading YOU the person, not you the player. 

 

My first read on Verb was wolf but I really don't know him either so I'm gonna need a lot more stuffs to read.

 

Lenlo is a back and forth for me atp.

 

Turin so far seems town

 

Dice has same meta as me so it might interfere with my thingy

 

Cass is the bestest girl so I have her town for the time being

 

RTE seems more like boss for me so I'm leaning town leader vibes

 

Cairos feels the same as last game so far but that doesn't make him wolf

 

did I miss anyone?

 

Oh yeah Heavy - he is reading a little sus atm but not for any good reason, but he could be town as well

 

yeah yeah I know not very helpful - sawwy

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Please don't break my heart this game Gud....

[Gudrean]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:51 PM, Zander? said:

 

TWTBAW.

 

 

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the wolf that bit a wolf?  

[Gudrean]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:52 PM, Zander? said:

 

Please don't break my heart this game Gud....

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This goes double for you sir!!!

[Shad_]

  On 3/12/2025 at 12:06 AM, Zander? said:

 

I'm not quite sure what this means can you elaborate it please and know you're explaining it to an adult with the IQ of a 6 year old lolololol

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We can't ISO and I'm not digging back, but as I recall he dropped a contingency take along the lines of someone else might be a little wolfy for the way they treated you.  A wolf calling a villager wolfy for pushing a wolf is the least common possibility in these situations, especially early in a game.  Hence I don't think you're both wolves.

[Shad_]

Maybe redact the "especially early".  It's just something people do deliberately and situationally, and it struck me more as an inconsequential off-hand remark.  Anyway, this is not an interesting point.  XD

[Zander?]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:47 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Not sure what you mean here. Would you clarify please?

I think that I was trying to explain my mindset in that game. It is apparently distracting so I'm gonna drop it.

My point is that the TOWN LEADER shtick is anti-town in itself due to the ease it can be abused. The fallback of "bad town" is troubling.

 

And I didn't quote it , but I have been mafia with you and I know you can plan.

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A note of him sheeping your reads without really saying anything about anyone you mentioned aside from Cairo's.

 

We fundamentally disagree in alot of places irt to Mafia apparently.

 

 There's been many bad Towns some I've been in some I've spectated others I've been told stories.  You know this tho.  Again like almost everything you say you sus me for directly is against obvious stuff and you were Town last game and I was like literally mind blown lol

 

Dude it was a joke.  I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I'm not completely brain dead either.   Like I just can't even wrap my brain around your thought processes .  I know people feel the same but I dunno I just can't get it.

[Zander?]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:54 PM, Gudrean said:

the wolf that bit a wolf?  

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Too Wolfy To Be A Wolf 

 

It's usually referenced when a player is playing so so openly Wolfy it's usually a Villager tho it then went that Wolves would sometimes try to clear themselves with it.  It's why I stopped reading people Town from it lol

[Turin Turambar]

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:46 PM, Zander? said:

 

Ya I'm a real detriment to Town we should compare Win/lose records as Villagers lolololol.   See this kinda BS Wolfy taking down crap only confirms my read.  Lens doing the whole like he's trying to look and act better than it and walking away while very purposeful egging me on.  He's played enough to know I'm never the type to easily let something go or back down especially when it's related to me.

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This I don't like. It is trying to lean on skill and clout to bully suspicion off you. If your really town, and think he's egging you on, don't take the cheese. Keep your head on a swivel. 

 

 

  On 3/12/2025 at 2:51 PM, Zander? said:

 

You hear of fishing?!?!?  That's what this is.  I'm nowhere close to being lunched at this point and if I were a PR I'd never ever out myself unless it was DL and I was likely a lunch canidate.

 

I hate this post from RTE like really bad....I'm trying literally to decide if he's obv Fishing outting himself or TWTBAW or trying to purposely look TWTBAW.

 

PINGPINGPING

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But this post I do like. RTE, if you are town, you should know better. It would be weird for you to be W/W with each other I think. Noting for later.