DOOMSLAYER MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Darthe]

Official FINAL Vote Count, Day One:

 

Zander (1/4): Sooh

No Lynch (4/4): Cass, VooDoo, Verbal, SD 

 

Not Voting(5/7):

Zander, Loaf

 

It takes four to lynch.

 

Countdown timer:

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20220810T1530&p0=25&msg=Day+One&font=cursive

[Darthe]

You can talk at night btw.  That's in the rules.

[Cass]

13 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

In the same way DMers don't miss the claimed Doc while there's no CC in a game where there's prolly been Doc saves kinda way I assume????

 

 Lololololol JK.....kinda ......sadface.gif

 

🤣

 

Catching up the enormity of all the feels in the Lololol JK .... kinda .... sadface options was so real 🤣 🤣

 

But we got there, 

 

[Cass]

  @AwholeLoafaBread I ~like the gist of most of this, but can you highlight what you were agreeing with or why you quoted the post you did when you made it? I can't figure it out (see spoiler below)

 

And how it narrowed things down for you at the time?

 

13 hours ago, AwholeLoafaBread said:

I agree, I don't see how I could confidently vote anyone just reading so far. And, in the sheer amount of posts it's reasonable that someone may miss something or simply forget pages later. I intend to base my reads more on how they play throughout the days, and no worries @Verbal32 I'm not going to vote you just because you voted me, though that doesn't mean I won't for a more substantial reason. I don't believe that is a good reason to believe you are scum or wolf or anything like that for how you choose to vote this early on. I'm not sure your reasoning, but I don't think I can say you're not townie based on everything so far.

 

I'd like to know why @Cass seems sus at all, I am not getting those vibes. I am seeing her and @SinisterDeath playing strategically and defending the lack of information to read so early on. So, I don't want to vote either of you so far, I can't say any of this is scummy for just knowing how to play.

 

This is narrowing things down for me, but I have much to catch up on still before I feel comfortable with any of you enough to vote.

 

 

Spoiler

23 hours ago, Cass said:

would you define the difference between Town me and Scum me on D1 / D2 / D3 for example? I'm pretty sure it's been shown that I am always more hyper-focused at the start than later on, even as Town, because hello ADHD? My heart genuinely shrivels and dies with scum rands right at the start, and I would think it would be noticeable, even at this stage? 

 

Anywho, I'm interested in your elaboration/beliefs here? I don't like it when people hinge/shade everything on waiting for this predictable 'change' and nothing else.

 

 

 

[Cass]

 

23 hours ago, Cass said:

 

Would you say she's the most sus here, so far though?

 

I don't know that I'd go so far as to say she gets a D1 pass by virtue of being new, but at the present I'm of the mind that it can be worth letting people have time to find their groove...

 

Looking forward to her stance on voting today, and where she wants to place her vote after the extra content that has been added when she next comes back @AwholeLoafaBread

 

And after that, I'm looking forward to seeing what @Verbal32 does with his vote on her.

 

Speaking of - @AwholeLoafaBread - does his vote on you bother you at all?

 

 

12 hours ago, AwholeLoafaBread said:

 

@Cass I appreciate the D1 pass, [/Snip]

 

 

If it helps, I wasn't giving you a D1 pass there (see the first bold), I was waiting for more, for e.g. in the other bold / the things where you were tagged.

 

The rest of it was asking for more on SD's stance on you at the time.

 

FWIW, I'm in the same camp as Zander in that I generally believe in giving new players at least the first day unless they're WOLF!WOLF!WOLF! to me (and then, as sad as it is, they gotta go - I'm not THAT nice 😉 ).

[Cass]

 

12 hours ago, AwholeLoafaBread said:

[/Snip]

 

...though I'd really like for all of us to vote based on our reads, our guts, and....dice? You roll to choose? That's cool, I may have to do that if I can't reasonably decide. Then if I vote town by mistake I can blame the dice. 

 

I can't read your tone here and tell if you're joking or not or whether it's all about me and you genuinely think/are suggesting you or I would roll to choose XD.

 

Just so you know, I always blame the @dicetosser1 (he's the dirty Blue friend who got me addicted to this game), but generally, no - - using/blaming actual dice is not the way to ... roll XD.

[Cass]

 

12 hours ago, AwholeLoafaBread said:

 

That's interesting to know @SinisterDeath. Still not sure though. If he always play wolf then how can we ever know... Verbal did say he was town and he shot anyway.

 

Did you read that game? If so, any thoughts on here compared to there?

 

12 hours ago, AwholeLoafaBread said:

@Verbal32

I see your point, that's fair to think. I hope you change your mind, but I'll not push. That would feel like a scum move to me, what's what I would vote for. 'Though doth protest too much' and all that jazz.

 

Can you elaborate on this and the 'though doth protest too much and all that jazz'? Which point, why do you hope he'll change his mind if it's 'fair to think'?

What would feel like a scum move there/worth a vote?

[Cass]

 

14 hours ago, SinisterDeath said:

Lets say in an insane world, Loaf & Zander are a wolf.

Does either @Cass or @Sooh imagine Zander would threaten to lead a lynch train on anyone who jumped on a Loaf Wagon, as an attempt to protect Loaf from getting lynched?
Do we think he could pull of a "whoopsie, I was wrong, now lets lynch the two that didn't vote loaf?"

 

I mean, this is an insane world, and it's not impossible, but do you think it's likely here?

 

I personally wouldn't expect Town!Zander to do that, and run a lynch up on anybody based on that as the sole reason, if that helps. And I think it would be very obvious/risky if Wolf!Zander took that tack (and I don't think he would, in any case).

 

Why were you just asking Sooh and I?

[Cass]

 

12 hours ago, AwholeLoafaBread said:

 

I think it's easy to cite "Zander reasoning" instead of clearly explaining a thought process. I can't tell if they do this @Zander? because you are just super predictable and there is no need to explain, or if they're throwing you under the bus as a wolf and just gonna be like "oh well, he's wolfy" if you turn out townie. You would push me town maybe, if you wanted to gain some 'non-wolfy' good press, but since a few of them are saying I'm sus I can't see how it helps you either way.

 

My gosh you're a hard read for me.

 

 

yes @Sooh! Congrats! I saw this earlier and forgot to congratulate you, so I'm piggybacking off zanders post so I dont have to dig for the original. 🙂 

 

 

@Sooh Yeah, I don't understand that either. You wouldn't lynch someone if you aligned with them, you'd be pushing to lose the game on your side. Which....I am still not sure of your side. I am beginning to lean townie 🙂 you make a lot of sense. I think you're on my list of no lynch, along with @VooDooNut

 

 

@SinisterDeath

That's a good point, those two are both stating they're giving me a D1 pass. Are you two collaborating on something? Even though you state why, this is a small game. I feel some sus for these two now... but I can't figure out which one or if they're both out to mislead that I'm aligned with one or the other and just seriously doing a good job at it. I'm scared, paranoid, and impressed @Zander? @Cass

 

Your read and reply to Zander there is a hard read for me. It was in reply to a post from Zander, explaining that he and his 'Zander reasons' (read personality) can be a confusing read for some ... which is true XD.

 

But you lose me a bit with the bold.

 

And the thought that Zander might gain 'non-wolfy good press' ? How so?

 

Essentially, I would expect Sooh, Verb and I to have a ~good handle on Z's character, and leans based on that. I don't think any of us three have done anything in our interactions with/about Zander that are particularly indicative of alignment. Sooh's vote, for example, was understandable to me at the time she made it as a move that could come from Town.

 

Sometimes people do 'distance' - where they sus or vote their partners at some time to gain cred without getting too serious, but I wouldn't say that's what I got from Sooh and Z?

[Cass]

 

11 hours ago, AwholeLoafaBread said:

I hope I replied to everyone, please let me know if I missed you.

 

I've replied a lot, so I am going to post my reads and make sure I am giving ya'll more than cheeky replies.

 

I am struggling to get a pure 100% certainty on anyone. But, I'll vote, I agree with not having a no lynch. We learn nothing if we do that, am I right?

 

So, if I'm town and I feel like Sooh is town and VooDooNut is confirmed town then I am afraid I have to look at ya'll:

 

@Cass

@Zander?

@Verbal32

@SinisterDeath

 

I'm leaning toward Cass just because she's so good at being good. I can't really sus based on what I've seen so far, but I wouldn't surprise me that someone would use that to an advantage. Too nice, so nice, sorry @Cass 😞  Gosh I'm gonna get totally cancelled for this. 

 

The rest of you, I am still considering. I will see how things go the next couple hours, and I apologize if wanting more info is looked down on. I just want to be as safe as possible, while still playing a good game.

 

hehe, this is funny because you're also coming across so nice it's hard to figure out whether you're literally the sweetest person on the planet, or the total opposite. I think I recall Darthe telling me close to one or other in a chat once, so you've got that going for you, but I'm still paranoid and unsure, on you both XD 

 

Questions though -

 

Why would you get cancelled?

 

What info would lynching me there have gained, IYO?

 

What exactly makes you say Sooh is Town?

 

[Cass]

 

10 hours ago, SinisterDeath said:

IS LOAF OF BREAD ACTUALLY AN ANDROID?! IS DARTHE A LIZARD PERSON?! WHY IS ZANDER THE GIANT TURTLE THAT HOLDS UP THE EARTH?!

 

This is not really relevant, but I laughed way too hard at this XD 

 

 

9 hours ago, AwholeLoafaBread said:

 

@Verbal32 I hate to say that I agree, but I also said I wouldn't vote no lynch. The thing is, if it takes 4 to do this then my vote will only make me look bad, and with no action resulting from it. This is getting tense for me now that we're down to the wire. How do ya'll do this on the regular, for fun? 

jkjk on the last part 🙂 

 

Where would your vote have gone, and why would it make you look bad?

FWIW, if you go with your gut and justify it, it all comes out in the wash.

 

As for the rest, why do you think we need to use nails to keep feet on the floor????

 

[Cass]

 

9 hours ago, SinisterDeath said:

So I no get my knuckles smacked with a ruler for posting here during night? 😛

 

Depends how much chaos it stirs up when I'm trying to work/sleep 🤣

 

8 hours ago, Sooh said:

I have no idea. I’m trying to compile a town list in my head and the candidates keep just jumping up to higher town reads all the time. I guess right now if I had to pick I would say verb and cass, but like I have more reasons to call them town than scums, so yeah. I’m struggling lol 

 

The feels are real... 

 

But not whatever bad ones you have about me ❤️

 

[Cass]

Kk, 

 

As fair warning, I'm about to head into a run of 2 night shifts of anywhere between 12~14 hours, starting this 7pm, followed by a kid's ice-skating birthday party, travelling 1.5hrs home, and going out for dinner at a raclette party where I'll be acting as interpreter on Saturday night.

 

Hopefully I'll have some down-time on shifts, but who knows. 

 

Glglg!

[Cass]

 @Sooh

 

What reasons do you have for me, in either direction?

[SinisterDeath]

6 hours ago, Cass said:

Why were you just asking Sooh and I?

My guess was you and Sooh know Zanders play more then VooDoo, Verb, or Loaf. 

[Verbal32]

17 hours ago, Sooh said:

I have no idea. I’m trying to compile a town list in my head and the candidates keep just jumping up to higher town reads all the time. I guess right now if I had to pick I would say verb and cass, but like I have more reasons to call them town than scums, so yeah. I’m struggling lol 

 

This wounds my townie heart, but I get it - I could essentially say the same on you, and you haven't done anything more scummy than townie.  Mafia is hard, yo.

 

 

 

6 hours ago, Cass said:

Kk, 

 

As fair warning, I'm about to head into a run of 2 night shifts of anywhere between 12~14 hours, starting this 7pm, followed by a kid's ice-skating birthday party, travelling 1.5hrs home, and going out for dinner at a raclette party where I'll be acting as interpreter on Saturday night.

 

Hopefully I'll have some down-time on shifts, but who knows. 

 

Glglg!

 

First thing, you're trending up big time with these posts I'm reading as I catch up from last night.  Are you the next townie I'm looking for?

 

As for the above quote, what does the bold mean?  I've never heard that word before....

[Darthe]

Hey folks, if you have a power you do not intend to use tonight please send me a PM stating that explicitly.  

 

Night ends in about 5.5 hours.

[Zander?]

Morning frands not alot of catchup I see.  I'm around for a bit of anyone wants to chat in real time.

[Zander?]

7 hours ago, Cass said:

 

 

 

 

If it helps, I wasn't giving you a D1 pass there (see the first bold), I was waiting for more, for e.g. in the other bold / the things where you were tagged.

 

The rest of it was asking for more on SD's stance on you at the time.

 

FWIW, I'm in the same camp as Zander in that I generally believe in giving new players at least the first day unless they're WOLF!WOLF!WOLF! to me (and then, as sad as it is, they gotta go - I'm not THAT nice 😉 ).

 

It's D2 all this pass stuff is moot.  I'm hoping we get some info from NA cause no Wagonomics sadface.gif with no lunch but ya were lynching someone today 100%.  I have a thought I'll share when im caught up it might be lolZander esp irt who it is but I was holding it to see what happened EoD.

[Zander?]

7 hours ago, Cass said:

 

 

I can't read your tone here and tell if you're joking or not or whether it's all about me and you genuinely think/are suggesting you or I would roll to choose XD.

 

Just so you know, I always blame the @dicetosser1 (he's the dirty Blue friend who got me addicted to this game), but generally, no - - using/blaming actual dice is not the way to ... roll XD.

 

This is very funny and punny lololololol

 

Also yes blaming @dicetosser1is always the correct thing to too I mean his fav Band is Silverchair after all.....

 

 

[Zander?]

7 hours ago, Cass said:

 

 

I mean, this is an insane world, and it's not impossible, but do you think it's likely here?

 

I personally wouldn't expect Town!Zander to do that, and run a lynch up on anybody based on that as the sole reason, if that helps. And I think it would be very obvious/risky if Wolf!Zander took that tack (and I don't think he would, in any case).

 

Why were you just asking Sooh and I?

 

I'm assuming that based off what he knows from DM you 2 and I are familiar with eachother.

 

I've played enough with Verb that we have a decent idea of what to look for irt to eachother we've played together here and on JN

[Zander?]

7 hours ago, Cass said:

 

 

Your read and reply to Zander there is a hard read for me. It was in reply to a post from Zander, explaining that he and his 'Zander reasons' (read personality) can be a confusing read for some ... which is true XD.

 

But you lose me a bit with the bold.

 

And the thought that Zander might gain 'non-wolfy good press' ? How so?

 

Essentially, I would expect Sooh, Verb and I to have a ~good handle on Z's character, and leans based on that. I don't think any of us three have done anything in our interactions with/about Zander that are particularly indicative of alignment. Sooh's vote, for example, was understandable to me at the time she made it as a move that could come from Town.

 

Sometimes people do 'distance' - where they sus or vote their partners at some time to gain cred without getting too serious, but I wouldn't say that's what I got from Sooh and Z?

 

I have thoughts imma wait a but to share on this.

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, SinisterDeath said:

My guess was you and Sooh know Zanders play more then VooDoo, Verb, or Loaf. 

 

Put Verb up with them and same with me with those 3.

[Zander?]

51 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

 

This wounds my townie heart, but I get it - I could essentially say the same on you, and you haven't done anything more scummy than townie.  Mafia is hard, yo.

 

 

 

 

First thing, you're trending up big time with these posts I'm reading as I catch up from last night.  Are you the next townie I'm looking for?

 

As for the above quote, what does the bold mean?  I've never heard that word before....

 

Next, whose the other if you said before my b I dont remember?

[Zander?]

32 minutes ago, Darthe said:

Hey folks, if you have a power you do not intend to use tonight please send me a PM stating that explicitly.  

 

Night ends in about 5.5 hours.

 

DONT TELL US WHAT TP DO DERF!!!!!!

 

lololololol