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Wildfire Sedai · April 4, 2019

EBWOP: A Person who i think is scum. and I wrote in the quotes its not all AJ and I forgot to highlight it....sorry.

Ironeyes · April 4, 2019

This is everything up to page 35. I'll spoiler the posts and hope it works better this time. Here we have Dice's vote on Illian, and a lot of Wifi. She questions the sus on Illian, saying he hasn't done anything scummy, but has him as null on her list. She also makes it clear that BFG and Hallia are null, including stating directly that she disagrees with people scum reading them. In the same post she calls Zander, Clov, and Tripped scum. She also digs in on a scum read of Kat before backign off upon the IC reveal. The pattern I see is that she runs contrary to the consensus, particularly with regard to strongly town-read players. I'm honestly not sure what to make of it.

On 3/27/2019 at 11:26 AM, Wildfire Sedai said:

I second this. You haven't talked about me as much as nyn and others. However, you haven't really talked TO me.

You could always wait till she has her gun out and is messing with it (I feel like most military people like to play with their guns ) and then "accidentally" bump into her as she is pretending to shoot something, flipping her arm towards her face. ?

LMFAO..... a cockroach...really....did he get sectioned 8 (atleast I think that's the "military talk" for a mental discharge)....I think I remember it from M*A*S*H* and Klinger (sp??)

But seriously...this sounds like good sound advice.

Yeah. It feels like we are beating the issue to death.

What makes you think Iced TEA is scum? (Illian) I don't remember his posts and I don't know how to separate them in the search function. I tried last game, messed with it for about an hour then gave up. And I am too lazy to reread the whole game to find them.

I also know that someone said that they didn't like/thought it was a scum tell/or something like that when people just ask why so and so thought that so and so was scum/town. However, sometimes its the only thing I can think of.

On 3/27/2019 at 7:02 PM, dicetosser1 said:

glares

too pat.

## vote illian (i hate you darthe)

for ure note

i also snap read wifi and feel good on nyn

clovs read kat me and tripped town in that order

On 3/27/2019 at 7:11 PM, Wildfire Sedai said:

1 Andrej - ???

2 Wildfire Sedai - TOWN QUEENIE

3 Illian Tear - NULL - Hasn't posted enough to give me a good read.

4 Hallia - NULL - Hasn't posted enough to give me a good read.

5 Zanatron - SLIGHTLY SCUMMY - I am not good at reading him I AM NOT GOOD AT READING MOST PEOPLE  however, my read is based on a gut feeling. I had written "slightly townie" at the beginning of this paragraph but then my gut took over.

6 Clovdyx - SLIGHTLY SCUMMY - Clov is usually pretty good at reading me, especially when I am town. The fact that he seems to be having a hard time reading me, has me on the edge with him. Also, even though he pushed me, he only pushed me a little. Normally town clov would push a lot more IIRC.

7 TrippedOnReality - SLIGHTLY TOWNIE - I have never played with her before so its really hard for me to judge. However, if I go just by her game play so far...

8 dicetosser1 - SLIGHTLY TOWNIE - I like the fact that he's sticking to his guns. Also, most of his content was game related.

9 Ironeyes - TOWNIE - I could be wrong here since I've never IIRC played with him before. However, his summarizing of the game and his digging around, have me putting him on more solid ground.

10 BFG - NULL - She has a lot of posts but they are just few in words, mostly.

11 Katiora - SCUM -  I am reevaluating my NULL read on her. I think that my micromanaging of a typo might actually be right. Also, I noticed she doesn't really have any game content. True, I only saw what was on her profile from yesterday at 4:21pm to today but that's still a lot of posts. This is telling because usually as town when I have played with her, she at least makes an effort to play the game. This game seems just fillers. And I know that Kat doesn't like to rand!mafia.

12 Nynaeve - SCUM - Like Kat, she has little game related content within her last 15 posts. Actually, only 2. I know she has work and school, so can't be on much. Though, I just checked times and content of posts and I think she can get on during work, a little bit. She made the two game related content posts from work, actually. according to time stamps. I also know she doesn't like randing scum because in the last game we played her scum mates were killed within the first day:night and she just gave in. I don't know why, I didn't read all the conversation at the end of the game. However, that is telling. Of course, I did not go back and reread whole game and you can't do ISO's here anymore so she could very well have a lot more game related content, I just don't remember it.

DISCLAIMER: ALL READS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE! I AM FEMALE AND SO WHAT I SAY GOES! ?

On 3/28/2019 at 6:50 PM, Wildfire Sedai said:

WTL: Kat, Nyn, Clov: I am not going to repeat why cause its in my reads list.

DEITY: Iron because he is my highest town read atp.

On 3/29/2019 at 2:31 AM, Hallia said:

Kat isn't super high on my town list, but reasoning is p much pot meet kettle

Dice seems okay to me

Adding these to my reads

On 3/30/2019 at 8:57 PM, Wildfire Sedai said:

Kat is obviously IC now.

zan, clov, and tripped are either all town or all scum, IMO. They have a lot of the same reads and even though clov did the "lynch tor*, he could be bussing her. Though I said above that I think zan is scum, its still just a gut feeling and even though my gut was right last game, doesn't mean it is right this game. Besides the "common" reads there is the banter between them. Like they feel comfortable with each other. This could go either way again.

I know most people have them as scum but: Iced TEA, Hallia and BFG are still null to me. I need another day or 2 to get a better idea on them. Mainly cause they haven't posted that much and I don't remember what they posted even though I check their profiles every day.

Iron is still Town in my eyes. Though now that someone brought up his blue I post (and I think it was before darthe said the IC would be revealed) I think dice might possibly be scum. I think he could have been trying to hint that he was IC. of course this is hindsight. Though he did say he was only using it for emphasis, I don't see dice doing that with talk of IC. If he wanted emphasis he could have bolded it in black.

Nyn I think is still scum. for same reasons as before.

So, I guess my reads haven't changed that much. ? Except for thinking that tripped could be scum with zan and clov, and dice being scum.

Clovdyx · April 4, 2019

1 minute ago, Wildfire Sedai said:

EBWOP: A Person who i think is scum. and I wrote in the quotes its not all AJ and I forgot to highlight it....sorry.

I know it's in the quote and that it's not all AJ. That's just... I don't know.

If Dice is mafia, who is his teammate? You mentioned Iron as a deepwolf, but if he's teamed with Dice, he's doing nothing to save him - or to make himself look better by bussing.

Andrej · April 4, 2019

4 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

@Andrej Will you read that post by WiFi and tell me if I'm being stupid to think she might have just slipped...?

By saying she won’t vote with scum?

Katiora · April 4, 2019

Ugh I keep thinking that mafia could very well be Clov and hallia and dice could be right

major am I just tinfoiling?

Clovdyx · April 4, 2019

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

By saying she won’t vote with scum?

By saying she won't vote with someone who IS scum, technically, but yeah. That read like it had a hell of a lot more conviction than anything I've seen from her this game, much less about Dice.

Katiora · April 4, 2019

Grrr not major. AJ

Wildfire Sedai · April 4, 2019

2 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

I know it's in the quote and that it's not all AJ. That's just... I don't know.

If Dice is mafia, who is his teammate? You mentioned Iron as a deepwolf, but if he's teamed with Dice, he's doing nothing to save him - or to make himself look better by bussing.

I think Hallia is his teammate. However, both you and aj are both town consensus so that's why I'm voting dice over hallia, plus dice (who i think is scum) is voting her. He could be bussing.

Clovdyx · April 4, 2019

1 minute ago, Katiora said:

Ugh I keep thinking that mafia could very well be Clov and hallia and dice could be right

major am I just tinfoiling?

Yes. But you wouldn't be you if you weren't. ❤️

Ironeyes · April 4, 2019

7 minutes ago, Wildfire Sedai said:

EBWOP: A Person who i think is scum. and I wrote in the quotes its not all AJ and I forgot to highlight it....sorry.

Funny timing that you should post this right as I was passing the post below in my reread, but you claimed on page 35 that you were sure Dice was town. What changed in the meantime?

On 3/31/2019 at 11:46 AM, Wildfire Sedai said:

Okay, I can go with this. I think I have to stop Micromanaging the little things and try to understand the big things. ? I am terrible at the nuances of speech. ? IE finding the meanings behind the paragraphs. I always think that its the little things that are the tell. The little slip (typo) here or there... Wordvomiting...writing what just comes to your head as fast as you can without thining about it adn just letting it folow without rereading it to cheack for typos or mind slips. <<<<----see what I mean.

Yes, because at least you're not lynching me, SP.

Using dice's form of enhancing (wrong word but I can't think of right word at tpit) .

What I was saying was I think that he did the "I" thing before we were told that the IC was going to be announced. Because for a while it seemed like all of us believed that the IC wasn't going to be announced. I didn't think it was going to be announced at all. I was in two games, 1 sub and 1 from beginning, with IC, and they were both announced but I never understood why. So, I just figured it wasn't going to be announced this game, until darthe announced that it was going to be.

I am going to reread the thread a few times to get a better feel for my reads so it may be a few hours before I answer this post....or all of it. I will answer the bolded stuff now though:

I know dice is spot on. and I do have too many scum reads so... TOWN!DICE.

I usually don't do "teams with." I will make scum reads but not the so and so and so. The only reason I put you, clov, and zan together were you all seemed to have the same reads and seemed so comfortable together. I think IIRC that this is the first time I ever TEAMED anyone of my own accord. For example, you just asked me who is teamed with nyn but you didn't give me any possibilities ie is nyn teamed with bfg/IT OR tor/zan. *Just picked those out of my head w/ raisins* oh you want to eat the raisins ? well bfg/IT are the ones most thought scum by others and zan is my gut scum and tor is the clov want to lynch person and he's started to push at me so I am thinking maybe he be town...maybe....I got to not be so suspicious. ?

My problem is I have been burned so many times that its hard for me to trust anymore. Like I will feel really good about clov or aj or dice and they will be scum. I guess my problem is I am trying to solve the whole game in like a day. And it just doesn't work. Well last game I did really good. This game: not so good.

I don't know what to say 99% of the time. It's hard for me to come up with stuff to talk about and it takes me a while to read the thread and to type what is in my mind without it coming out like vomit. Also, by they time I come up with something someone has already said it and I don't want it to look like I am copying so I just erase it and be quiet.

Wildfire Sedai · April 4, 2019

2 minutes ago, Katiora said:

Ugh I keep thinking that mafia could very well be Clov and hallia and dice could be right

major am I just tinfoiling?

How confident are you on your clover read??

Clovdyx · April 4, 2019

1 minute ago, Wildfire Sedai said:

I think Hallia is his teammate. However, both you and aj are both town consensus so that's why I'm voting dice over hallia, plus dice (who i think is scum) is voting her. He could be bussing.

Fair enough.

~~I was going to point out that if he's bussing, it doesn't matter which gets lynched, but it matters a hell of a lot if he's not bussing. lolchris~~

Andrej · April 4, 2019

2 minutes ago, Katiora said:

Ugh I keep thinking that mafia could very well be Clov and hallia and dice could be right

major am I just tinfoiling?

I don’t think clov is scum. BFG did her awkward thing where she like tries to over compensate making a show of ‘reading him’

if that was make then I’ll take the L cause atp Clov is outworking this Town and deserves the win.

Hallia is still ???

her quick turn on Zander really reminds of how she went at Dice in that Jurassic World game

Clovdyx · April 4, 2019

I'm not sure if I love or hate Iron trying to use reads from literally half the game ago to grill somebody right before deadline. But at this point, content is better than no content, so YOLO I guess.

Katiora · April 4, 2019

WiFi I’m not sure on clov at all

Ironeyes · April 4, 2019

Just now, Clovdyx said:

I'm not sure if I love or hate Iron trying to use reads from literally half the game ago to grill somebody right before deadline. But at this point, content is better than no content, so YOLO I guess.

It's what's in my head right now. Sorry I'm not completely up to date. It could pay dividends tomorrow though, since she still has a chance to answer before the lynch

Katiora · April 4, 2019

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

I don’t think clov is scum. BFG did her awkward thing where she like tries to over compensate making a show of ‘reading him’

if that was make then I’ll take the L cause atp Clov is outworking this Town and deserves the win.

Hallia is still ???

her quick turn on Zander really reminds of how she went at Dice in that Jurassic World game

But could they have faked it?

Andrej · April 4, 2019

We’ve got 4 minutes.

Ironeyes · April 4, 2019

Just now, Andrej said:

We’ve got 4 minutes.

All right, ##Vote Dice

Wildfire Sedai · April 4, 2019

I posted this AFTER the quote you just quoted. :rolleyes:

If she's mafia, she doesn't know she's town. But ultimately, yes, it would be better for mafia!BFG to ensure Illian dies over letting herself be at risk.

If she was around with a few minutes to go, voting Nyn there was basically always less than ideal, unless she's town, is convinced Nyn is mafia, and thought somebody would roll on Nyn to actually put the lynch through. CLOVER

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DARTHE: It's end of NIGHT. Just saying. :wink:

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Okay heres my updated reads list:

1 Andrej - Scum vig????

2 Wildfire Sedai - TOWN QUEENIE

3 Illian Tear - TOWN

4 Hallia - Slight scum

5 Zanatron - TOWN

6 Clovdyx - Slight town

7 TrippedOnReality - TOWN

8 dicetosser1 - Slight scum

9 Ironeyes - Town

10 BFG - SCUM

11 Katiora - INNOCENT CHILD

12 Nynaeve - VERY, VERY SLIGHT SCUM

1. I think Aj is the scum vig because darthe said that he didn't want to have to rearrange the game if AJ didn't show up and he couldn't find a sub by end of day 1. IIRC. I didn't reread game to make sure because too many pages to reread. NOW if AJ were VT or GOON it wouldn't matter because the game would go to 11 players and the game would automatically go to a 9/2 set-up, and seeing how kat was hinting that she was IC before I think he said that then he didn't have to worry about IC. So, the only other role he would have to worry about would be the mafia vig. Am I stretching it again??? ?

4. I've had her on my scummy list most if not all of game. I just reread her posts thanks to clov. :wub: Anyway, I am keeping her there until she posts more game related content. She has posted a bit of little shots but would like to hear more of her take on nyn, dice, iron, and clover.

6. He has been one of the most active players in the game. I still have some paranoia in regards to him so that's why its a slight townie. He also has been pushing me in the game and I do like that it helps me learn how to play the game. However, he has deep wolf equity.   :biggrin:



8. I had him townie but he hasn't been as active as I usually see him in a game when he is town. He is also not pushing that many people. I think he could have been the mafia on Iced TEA's wagon. sorry dice.   :sad:

9. I have had him as townie most if not all of game. He has been active for the most part, with gaps here and there. Pushing people and asking questions.

11. IC = nothing to say here. ?

12: She has been my scummiest read of the game. Mainly because she hasn't really pushed anyone, especially me. Usually she is on my tail til I get lynched or she thinks I am town. IIRC. Last game was the exception to the rule. She was actually pretty mellow and she was scum, which is what makes me think she is scum this game.

and I know here I have nyn as scummy however I have since said she has been moving up to townie IMO.

Andrej · April 4, 2019

Just now, Katiora said:

But could they have faked it?

Occam’s Razor says no.

Katiora · April 4, 2019

Bleh but if hallia is scum he would never have went at both of them. I’m just being stupid.

Katiora · April 4, 2019

What day y’all?? Dice or Hallia?

Ironeyes · April 4, 2019

1 minute ago, Wildfire Sedai said:

I posted this AFTER the quote you just quoted.

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If she's mafia, she doesn't know she's town. But ultimately, yes, it would be better for mafia!BFG to ensure Illian dies over letting herself be at risk.

If she was around with a few minutes to go, voting Nyn there was basically always less than ideal, unless she's town, is convinced Nyn is mafia, and thought somebody would roll on Nyn to actually put the lynch through.  CLOVER

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DARTHE: It's end of NIGHT. Just saying.

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Okay heres my updated reads list:

1 Andrej - Scum vig????

2 Wildfire Sedai - TOWN QUEENIE

3 Illian Tear - TOWN

4 Hallia - Slight scum

5 Zanatron - TOWN

6 Clovdyx - Slight town

7 TrippedOnReality - TOWN

8 dicetosser1 - Slight scum

9 Ironeyes - Town

10 BFG - SCUM

11 Katiora - INNOCENT CHILD

12 Nynaeve - VERY, VERY SLIGHT SCUM

1. I think Aj is the scum vig because darthe said that he didn't want to have to rearrange the game if AJ didn't show up and he couldn't find a sub by end of day 1. IIRC. I didn't reread game to make sure because too many pages to reread. NOW if AJ were VT or GOON it wouldn't matter because the game would go to 11 players and the game would automatically go to a 9/2 set-up, and seeing how kat was hinting that she was IC before I think he said that then he didn't have to worry about IC. So, the only other role he would have to worry about would be the mafia vig. Am I stretching it again??? ?

4. I've had her on my scummy list most if not all of game. I just reread her posts thanks to clov.    Anyway, I am keeping her there until she posts more game related content. She has posted a bit of little shots but would like to hear more of her take on nyn, dice, iron, and clover.

6. He has been one of the most active players in the game. I still have some paranoia in regards to him so that's why its a slight townie. He also has been pushing me in the game and I do like that it helps me learn how to play the game. However, he has deep wolf equity.



8. I had him townie but he hasn't been as active as I usually see him in a game when he is town. He is also not pushing that many people. I think he could have been the mafia on Iced TEA's wagon. sorry dice.

9. I have had him as townie most if not all of game. He has been active for the most part, with gaps here and there. Pushing people and asking questions.

11. IC = nothing to say here. ?

12: She has been my scummiest read of the game. Mainly because she hasn't really pushed anyone, especially me. Usually she is on my tail til I get lynched or she thinks I am town. IIRC. Last game was the exception to the rule. She was actually pretty mellow and she was scum, which is what makes me think she is scum this game.

and I know here I have nyn as scummy however I have since said she has been moving up to townie IMO.

Huh, ok... Like Clov said, I'm kind of living in the past right now

Clovdyx · April 4, 2019

1 minute ago, Ironeyes said:

All right, ##Vote Dice

Probably a useless vote, but whatever. I'll take it.

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