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[Zander?]

I also don't think Krak taking a Scum lean stance on Cory is clearing either considering Cory hasn't been suoer Towny yet and had has some others questioning him as well.

[Zander?]

But I gotta get some sleep. Really need to see a lot more from @dicetosser1 and @Hallia.

 

I feel like I should have a .much better handle on them ago especially Hallia.

[Zander?]

If Cory and AJ are wolves imma be really really pissed off....

[Cory Caboose]

Zander I'm in way too much of a Zen mode to read back the last few things you've wanted to know from me, so let's make a deal. Ask me any 3 questions you want and I'll answer them

 

I am ready to start building this village with what I've gotten so far and I need my town jackhammer

Let's make it fun!

[Andrej]

5 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

AJ that reads post is magnificent fwiw

 

Appreciate it. Only took me like 4 hours lol

 

I’d like to move more into that sort of playstyle cause reading everything after the fact is pretty insightful imo but after putting it in action I’m not sure I could do it all the time  

[Gabriel Kross]

8 hours ago, 鲍勃不是我的名字 said:

 

Unfortunately, Darthe lying is not a scum tell.

 

Where's your vote?

truth, iirc Darth fake claimed cop as a townie once

8 hours ago, DontTrustThePenguins said:

I am not high drama/low content >:(

 

I admit I was fluffing earlier but I am not low content and you can't say I'm not trying.

 

And if this is what you call high drama than you have been in some pretty mellow games.

you really really are, you've been so deadset on such a mior thing that Darthe won't respond about his vote on you/Leelou I would be hardpressed to say you didn't slip up and out your teammate Leelou on accident. Not gonna lie, Leelou's posts read as annoyed Leelou to me, and this theory that you unwittingly outed yourself as her teammate fits that bill.

8 hours ago, Cory Caboose said:

 

 Drama as in a very theatrical personality,  not drama inducing LOL that wasn’t meant to be insulting :P

 

 The  High volume / low content thing is more about you posting a lot and having Length heavy posts in which you don’t have much to actually say. 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ times infinity

8 hours ago, DontTrustThePenguins said:

My posts aren't even lengthy. I'm waffling less than normal even ftr 

 

And I am giving my thoughts. That's where I can say that no one can say I'm not trying. I can only do as I do.

 

And as for a theatrical personality, then that's just me. You said this isn't meant to be insulting, so I am willing to put whatever feelings to it being way passed my bedtime on 5 hours sleep from last night because of this game.

 

For the umpteenth time, I should sleep...

Here, you are now goining on the personally defensive about whether you're being too wordy/dramatic. 

7 hours ago, Leelou said:

I'd like to preempt the questions and say there are not going to be quoted examples. These reads are how I feel after reading the thread again I don't want to clutter this up with quotes. I have tomorrow off, so I can respond to any specifics you have and can pull them for you then, or later tonight if I'm not home too late. Please either respond to this post, or @ me.  

 

Townie to Null to Scummy 

Dice - Same as before. He seems comfortable. When scum he more seems stiff

Wesley - He is obvious as scum early on. Not seeing any of that here. Seeing a rational Wes so far

Zander - Zander is my townie wild card. I really find it funny that we agree on there being too many posts in the game. So far, I like how he's questioning people and trying to hold them accountable 

Darthe - Darthe has a certain way of posting when he's scum and I haven't seen it here. He's annoying, but more likely than not town

Hallia - her tone has been light, fluffy Hallia that I associate with her town self

So FLUFFY AND CUTE - Diving right in during his first game here, it really feels like he's genuinely trying to get a read on Darthe. At this point I don't see why he'd try that as scum 

Eldrick - I liked the way he came into the game and seemed to be legitimately questioning players to get a read on them

 

Not Bob - I get the playing for the lulz, but I'll need to see a bit more from him. Not really null, more a light town read but I want some more gameplay here. His last few posts are making him move more up into the town range.

Kat- Like me, not really a lot to go on. I'm hoping she can get involved soon

AJ - Day 2 on I start to get a better feel for AJ. He's a tricky one

Cory - I use others to read Cory. Not gonna lie

 

EP - I don't get the fixation with not being on Krak's list. You hadn't posted by then. Worried you were being left out by your teammate? Sidenote: that advice to Marsh, no. Some people are just touchy. I had a female boss pet my hair all the time. Didn't mean anything more than she was odd. 

Krak - GbD (Getting behind Darthe), a bit on the overdefensive side with Eldrick

Ironeyes - My eyes start to glaze over reading your posts. They seem to be way too wordy and nothing is really sticking out. One thing that stuck out though, why did you think EP was being subbed? And one this is for sure that I do not agree with you about, nested quotes. Thank the gods they are gone. 

 

I'll be willing to vote any of my bottom 3 today.

1: Do you know who I am, I'm always fixated on me. I love me, everyone should love me. I'm a lovable guy.
2: I don't like your town read on Penguin. So many people have called him out for a lack of real content and you the try to say he's "trying" 
 

5 hours ago, Zanatron said:

 

2 things: 1st either my reads are good and Marsh is  villager or my reads are bad and Marsh is Scum.

 

2nd if you ever use or mention light salmon to be again i will make it my life's mission to try and  lynch you every game...regardless of both of our alignments...like if we were in a final 3 and you were not confirmed if and the other person admitted being Scum...i will still vote you!!!!!!!

 

Lolololololol 

I'm gonna feed you some light salmon if you keep keep posting crap like this.

4 hours ago, Zanatron said:

 

An entire list of nulls?!?!?!?!?!?!

^^^^^^^^^^^ this a million times this *this post is in response to Kat's list since you can't capture quotes in quotes*

4 hours ago, Songstress said:

VOTE COUNT:

 

Leelou (2) - Krak, Cory

Penguins (2) - Darthe, EP, Ironeyes

Ironeyes (1) - Dice

Cory (2) - AJ, Darthe

Krak (1) - Eldrick

Eldrick (1) - Zander

 

Not voting: Hallia, DPR, Kat, Leelou, NotBob, Penguins

 

WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO LYNCH.

 

Day 1 deadline is Thursday, July 5 at 12:00 Noon EDT:

I'm assuming this is a typo as later it shows Darthe only voting once, but something worth keeping an eye on.

4 hours ago, Katiora said:

An entire list of thoughts.

yeah sure they are thoughts, but thoughts that lean neither one way or the other, you can't be that null on everyone at this point in the game.

4 hours ago, Katiora said:

 

No just observations. I never claimed for that list to be reads. Honestly on 90% of people I don't have enough information to make any sort of "read" on them. 

aren't observations reads???

4 hours ago, Darthe said:

Kat's town

Don't you lie to me!

2 hours ago, Eldrick4221 said:

I'd like it if people would discuss my point on Krak. Darthe has weighed in, but I'd like to hear from more.

 

Darthe voted Leelou, without reasoning. Later, he asked for people to join him.

Krak voted Leelou, also without reasoning or mentioning her prior.

He later explained his feelings about her, but the vote felt opportunistic and scummy.

 

Is anyone else seeing that?

nothing to discuss

1 hour ago, DPR said:

 

I gotta say, this kind of a post after an absence feels an awful lot like you were feeling pressure to add content to the game. You could have just summed it all up as "I don't know yet" and shrugged. 

DPR I hate to say this, but I think you may be town :/ (I'm still annoyed I didn't get to shoot you in Ragnarok)

17 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

just a starting point from what i remember so far, gonna do a notepad reread and see where i land

 

ordered among tiers

 

Darthe

 

Zanatron

Andrej

DPR

 

Krak

dice

Katiora

Hallia

 

NotBob

Eternal Phoenix

Penguins

 

Leelou

Eldrick4221

 

Ironeyes

 

oh look I'm the proverbial grey area, does that make me a brain? 

[Cory Caboose]

AJ I feel a team coming together and I think the magic starts here between you and me

First order of business: we give Darthe an honorary doctorate from CrayJay-U and then put him in a closet where nobody can see or hear him

[Cory Caboose]

1 minute ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

oh look I'm the proverbial grey area, does that make me a brain? 

 

gonna go with dolphin

[Andrej]

6 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

I also don't think Krak taking a Scum lean stance on Cory is clearing either considering Cory hasn't been suoer Towny yet and had has some others questioning him as well.

 

In that world where Krak is scum and Cory is Town, I think it’s reasonable to believe Krak thinks that eventually Cory is going to clear himself. I’ve never personally seen Cory mislynched. 

 

Also in the context of this game, I think Krak did so before anyone voiced any real concerns and that matters.

[Zander?]

2 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

Zander I'm in way too much of a Zen mode to read back the last few things you've wanted to know from me, so let's make a deal. Ask me any 3 questions you want and I'll answer them

 

I am ready to start building this village with what I've gotten so far and I need my town jackhammer

Let's make it fun!

 

1. Lay out your Krak read for me please.  Of the only 2 things I could think off... AJ said it wasn't one for him and the other I just mentioned.

 

2. Why is Hallia so high up there right now.

 

3. Give me your top 2 Scummates that make sense together and why.

[Andrej]

2 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

AJ I feel a team coming together and I think the magic starts here between you and me

First order of business: we give Darthe an honorary doctorate from CrayJay-U and then put him in a closet where nobody can see or hear him

 

-Cosigned

 

Andrej the Giant

[Gabriel Kross]

So my current list of suspects

 

Leelou

Eldrick

Pengu

Kat

 

I am fine with offing any of these peeps... peeps are yummy tho, marshmellowy goodness and all

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Zanatron said:

 

1. Lay out your Krak read for me please.  Of the only 2 things I could think off... AJ said it wasn't one for him and the other I just mentioned.

 

2. Why is Hallia so high up there right now.

 

3. Give me your top 2 Scummates that make sense together and why.

3. Leelou and Pengu

[Krakalakachkn]

manufacturing unicorns

[Zander?]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

In that world where Krak is scum and Cory is Town, I think it’s reasonable to believe Krak thinks that eventually Cory is going to clear himself. I’ve never personally seen Cory mislynched. 

 

Also in the context of this game, I think Krak did so before anyone voiced any real concerns and that matters.

 

2nd part is false iirc.

 

Secondly as Scum it would be one of the 1st things I'd do against Town Cory...give some suss over something...hold my ground for a bit and once Cory explained it back off when it makes sense.

[Zander?]

Maybe I'm stuck in MetA bias sinkhole from last game irt Krak.

[DontTrustThePenguins]

5 hours ago, Katiora said:

Ok. So my thoughts so far. Mostly and i'm going to say this even though most of you will say it is probably scummy but i'm just being honest her, I have no idea what to go on at this point. D1 and we're 41 pages in and honestly I feel more confused than when I first started trying to read yesterday. What a convoluted finger pointing mess... 

 

 

I mean I know it's d1 so all we have is conjecture and votes that may or may not mean anything at all, but man. Ya'll make a thread hard to read. Anyway... onwards. 

 

Honestly I'm having a such a hard time remembering who all is in the game I had to go look. Some people just haven't done anything at all.*whistles* 

 

 

Right now, in the order that Tress has them listed:

 

Eldrick - has been active since they've been here. Almost feels like they are trying to force people into roles regardless of how things actually are. i.e. the thing with "if zander/cory can't read me he must be scum" thoughts. It just appears to be trying to hard to me, though this could be accounted for from his late start and he actually IS trying too hard or he could just be scum. Hard to decide.... 

 

Cory - Has been extremely laid back this game. Not the Cory I'm used to seeing. I haven't really seen him try to push anyone yet and it has me slightly concerned. 

 

Darthe - I want to think he's town so bad. I mean... nothing he's said (even the stuff I really don't agree with) has pinged me as more than just Darthe being himself. I really wanna tinfoil him though

 

AJ - has he been here today?? I honestly can't remember. <.< He's been super quiet to me this game. He had a bit in it where he was fairly vocal but it seems like, since the fluff stopped he has been unusually quiet and not his normal scum hunting self. Not sure if I should be worried. I'll be worried if he's alive past d2 lol 

 

Zander - My eternal tinfoil.... I am 100% horrible at reading Zander. I want him to be town and honestly right now I have no reason to think he's not but.... man... 

 

Hallia - Has been quiet. Normal for last few games and NAI. Pretty sure she's been this quiet for a scum game a while back and the last game, where she did get pretty active towards the end of the game. I would be willing to give her a few (game) days before really worrying. She usually picks up if she's town.

 

DPR - always seems scummy to me. Not sure why. Kinda Null right now

 

Marsh - seems to be involved. I'm not sure I agree with his most recent list, but that doesn't make him not town. I would like to know how firm his reads are at this point?? Just out of curiosity... 

 

Kat - extremely boring and not extremely involved because she hates D1 

 

Leelou - Quiet... says she's busy but has put in some recent effort which I approve of. I probably don't want to vote her today, regardless of Darthe's reasoning unless he were to give me more than "trust me I'm Darthe"... Probably just not going there today. 

 

Krak - I don't buy the "he voted Leelou so he must be scum" thing, or the "he's too active" but I will say he's been slightly defensive. I don't know that I put him and Penguin as W/w if they are then they decided to distance pretty early... 

 

Penguin- ehhh has been a bit over-reactive recently. I think the arguement about his fluff wasn't justified, however, I think it did make him react, so maybe not completely unwarranted. Nothing to judge his play by though so I'm gonna have to trust people that have actually played with him and hope they're not ALL scum. That would mostly be Dice and Eld?? Isn't that right??? >.> 

 

Dice - heh I"m horrible at reading him. One of the past games I was convinced he had to be scum or 3p and was utterly wrong lol. So far this game he's been semi-reasonable and hasn't gone off chasing rabbits. I'll withhold judgement for now and put him as null. 

 

Not Bob - pretty quiet. He's popped in a bit and said something was towny or scummy (and sometimes I haven't been sure if he was serious) but I don't remember any explanations of his reasoning and beyond that I can't think of a whole lot he's posted. Not sure if I just don't remember or if I've missed it or if he's really not posted a lot. 

 

EP - Eh. Usually has decent reads but crazy reasons that make sense to no one else but him. I'm not sure about him yet. 

 

 

So that's my thoughts right now. And looking at them i have NO IDEA who I really would like to see lynched today. Not Zander, Cory, Darthe, AJ, or Hallia for the moment. 

 

My bottom three would probably be Not Bob (from a purely I don't know why point), Krak, and Eld. But not really wanting to vote right now... Is this a Hybrid hammer game?? or a DL game? I don't really want to look... lol 

 

Now someone pick my post apart and tell me why I'm scum *looks pointedly at Cory* 

If you think AJ has stopped getting involved since the fluff ended, why would you be worried if he made it passed D2?

 

And yeah, Dice (two games), Eldrick (one). Again, if people want past games, I can link.

 

I don't think me and Krak have had anything this game, but talking about timezones and someone else for a few posts(?) 

[Zander?]

@Eternal Phoenix tell you what...stop posting those giant 20 posts in 1 post that Scum love to hide in and I'll lay off spamming as much 

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Zanatron said:

Maybe I'm stuck in MetA bias sinkhole from last game irt Krak.

 

I think maybe you are. You remember DPR’s Hotel California game over on JN a while back? That’s the same sorta Krak I’m reminded of here.

[Zander?]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

I think maybe you are. You remember DPR’s Hotel California game over on JN a while back? That’s the same sorta Krak I’m reminded of here.

 

Krak was in that?!?!?!??!

[Zander?]

Ok sloots......stop preventing me from sleeping!!!!!!!!

[Cory Caboose]

2 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

1. Lay out your Krak read for me please.  Of the only 2 things I could think off... AJ said it wasn't one for him and the other I just mentioned.

 

2. Why is Hallia so high up there right now.

 

3. Give me your top 2 Scummates that make sense together and why.

 

1 - I didn't like his early reads & approach but I thought there was a possibility he was trying to 'get into' the game earlier after what happened to him in the last game regardless of alignment, I mentioned as much (might not have disclosed at the time). He felt fine during my conversation with him, he's been sharp and involved in a way that isn't reactionary. I'm not as confident as AJ is (and I don't really support the 'he wouldnt push Cory because Cory is too hard to mislynch' angle that much because it's not like no one attempts it') but he's not really on my radar today.

 

2 - more of a gut read, I don't think the volume constraints have always been a timing thing for her, I like her general earnestness. With that said, this isnt a very strong read (she's right at the null edge on my list), just my take on her behavior so far. hoping very much to see more of her.

 

3 - i literally do not think this way, it's not how i approach the game unless i see something i feel is 'super indicative'. i just try to lynch the person i think ~least likely to be a villager each day. i think specifically looking for "team wolves" you are more likely to confbias yourself matching up conditional reads

 

that being said plenty of wolves dont really discuss their partners much so there's a lot of empty space to look at there. most of bottom 6 haven't really conversed with 3-4 other people in that 6

[Cory Caboose]

Ok I share you share

What are your thoughts on the players in my bottom 3? Leelou / Eldrick / Marsh

[Krakalakachkn]

What are the chances Eldrick tunnels out of the gate as scum?

 

 

[Zander?]

9 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

Ok I share you share

What are your thoughts on the players in my bottom 3? Leelou / Eldrick / Marsh

 

Leelou I wanna say Scummy but I've played games with her on JN where she was Town and played like this as well.  I wouldn't fight her lynch nor am I likely to push for it atp.

 

Eldrick...well that's where my vote is so what's that tell you?

 

Iron is a little harder for me to read...i felt like some of his posts are bare bones so to speak..some are wordy without saying a lot and some were ok.  I actually liked his response to me when I called him out for bare minimum posting...lol