[Game Thread] Aspiring Tennis Enthusiasts, GRATS MAFIA

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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Match 1:

Nynaeve (1) - Sooh

Verbal (6) - Ben, Nyn, LZM, SK, AJ, Aquilla

 

Match 2:

BFG (7) - AJ, Ben, Verb, LZM, Lenlo, Aquilla, Nyn

AJ (3) - BFG, Sooh, SK

 

Match 3:

SK (6) - Ben, Aquilla, AJ, Lenlo, Verb, Nyn

Aquilla (4) - SK, Sooh, LZM, BFG

 

Match 4:

Lenlo (4) - Ben, Sooh, Nyn, LZM

LZM (4) - Lenlo, SK, Aquilla, AJ

 

Match 5:

Sooh (3) - Ben, Aquilla, LZM

Ben (5) - Sooh, Nyn, SK, AJ, Lenlo

 

[Andrej]

I'm still kinda sticking to the believe that goon!BFG doesn’t pick me. Doesn’t eliminate her as the symp but you catch my drift. Even with Ben’s theory where she’s a goon and I’m the symp that still relies on her picking me knowing I’m not on her team. I just don’t believe it.

 

As far as her questions go, like I said I’m more interested in how they materialize into reads. Either way she’s probably getting voted out today so if she is scum, that’s a plus. If she isn’t then I certainly believe she’ll be in the running for which of the losers the scum kill. Win/win

[Andrej]

 

Why is that? It’s you instead?

 

Sooh just for my own curiosity, what does your trouble come from? Me or her?

Because the hint you called her out on was not a hint.

...ok. That still doesn’t eliminate her, just maybe when it pertains to you.

[Verbal32]

 

 

Why is that? It’s you instead?

 

Sooh just for my own curiosity, what does your trouble come from? Me or her?

Because the hint you called her out on was not a hint.

...ok. That still doesn’t eliminate her, just maybe when it pertains to you.

 

 

From my POV, it does.  I know I'm town, so that could not have been a hint to me.  Therefore, while she technically *could* be the symp, that post you called out was not a hint to me.  That's all I'm really saying.

[Verbal32]

And why wouldn't scum!BFG pick you, again?

[Nynaeve]

Verb does have a point. Ie if bfg was put up against lynchbait, that would have looked bad. Like what's the alternative in your eyes?

[Lenlo]

Verb does have a point. Ie if bfg was put up against lynchbait, that would have looked bad. Like what's the alternative in your eyes?

Putting BFG up against me or Ben maybe? People who have been here abit.

 

And I swear, if you call me lynch bait... id probably agree with you, but not happily!

[Nynaeve]

Ok?

[Nynaeve]

Thinking of switching to lzm

[BFG]

Evening :)

[LedZepMan]

Evening :)

Morning

[BFG]

Sounds like a fun conversation

 

If scum me doesn't want to look 'bad' I go against Verb or Sooh, both of whom can take longer than one day to get town read

[BFG]

[v]Verb[/v]

[v]Ben[/v]

[v]LZM[/v]

[v]SK[/v]

 

I've been falling asleep for the past hour so not sure how long I'll be around

[BFG]

Nyn's town, I'm more confident on Sooh, I should feel better about SK and LZM than I am. Still null on Aquilla and Lenlo, although I feel I should have a read on Lenlo

[BFG]

I'll look at Lenlo and LZM in more detail when I'm caught up

[BFG]

 

Ben I'd appreciate if you could explain how you think I normally scum hunt

Last time, you seemed to ask a lot of pointed questions. This time, it feels like you’re going through the motions.

When was I asking these questions?

[Nynaeve]

Sounds like a fun conversation

If scum me doesn't want to look 'bad' I go against Verb or Sooh, both of whom can take longer than one day to get town read

AJ typically takes a bit too. But sure.

[Nynaeve]

Though to be fair, if youre the symp, you didnt really have a choice in the matter. And scum would set you up that way not knowing any better.

[Nynaeve]

Same could be said about anyone really

[Sooh]

I honestly think it's -ev to try to suss out the symp. If the symp successfully signals there might be 3 scums and 1 townie in the D2 pairings.

[Nynaeve]

Fair enough

[BFG]

It’s like the read on LZM that Verbal presses you about and the wagons that AJ is pressing you on now. Instead of really hunting like you did last time (and you definitely hunted—you latched on to me immediately and would not let go), you are putting out white noise that at a lazy skim looks kinda townie but doesn’t really hold up under pressure.

Ok no?

 

I camped in thread for the first 24 hours and was a concensus town read. I didn't push you (until the end, I had one or two posts where I said you were fluffy), I mostly voted you as a counter wagon to SK. From Sunday to Friday I basically peaced out.

 

In SS you had an extended conversation with Nyn about SK where you defended him because he's always quiet early game. Why are you ignoring context this game?

 

And while my questions don't work as well out of in thread conversation, they're not pointless to me

[BFG]

Though to be fair, if youre the symp, you didnt really have a choice in the matter. And scum would set you up that way not knowing any better.

Pretty much lol

[BFG]

 

At this point I think I've said about as much as I need to and my votes are placed where I want them.

 

I have no basis on which to read Aquilla but he's contributing at least, and even though I take self-meta with a pinch of salt - if what he says about hating to play scum is true then I would think he'd have less to say, especially with a roster of player they don't know.

 

SK hasn't done anything but promise content and not deliver, he could be busy but he could also be lurking scum. His volume in Suicide Squad was low and eventually tapered off almost completely towards the end. I figured with D1 being over 48 hours he'd have more concrete stuff in the thread.

 

I might buy the idea that LZM is apathetic town but I don't have a ton of confidence on Lenlo either way (sorry Len). I'd like to see LZM answer BFG's question about her read 'leading' when she called him town.

 

Verb maybe town. I think it'll show more one way or another as the game gets deeper since he takes time to ramp up. There's the Verb/Nyn pairing in his favor too, but I can't say with confidence whether he'd go for that sort of fancy play if he were setting the matchups. I'm always voting to advance Nyn here though, sorry bro.

 

Ben I'm unsure about. Some of the content is there, in so much that his town reads are 'correct' but could also just be well worded TMI. Seems to switch back and forth between off-topic, self-deprecation, and then actual game content. I don't know what to make of it. Either way, Sooh is the pony in that race I've got my money on.

 

Still think BFG is town. I don't mind that she's asking questions that may seem random or out of the blue, considering her availability. I'm more interested in how those questions compile into forming reads at a later point, which is the real indicator of her alignment imo.

 

So I guess something like

 

Nyn

Sooh

 

BFG

 

Verb

Lenlo/LZM

Aquilla

Ben

 

SK

 

Not great :-/

 

I'd be a lot happier if I had more solid stuff to read the others off of without having to talk myself into reasons why they could be townies.

You're probably right in the stances you're taking irt SK and LZM. It's strictly logic driven.

 

Maybe it's just that I'm stubborn. Sure in vaccum sk and lzm are giving a lot less and in comparison lenlo and aquilla are at least being more talkative. That's not something anyone can argue. At the same time it's hard for me to wrap my mind around at least LZM playing this way as scum. So we just have two apathetic scum? Meh. It's just a bit hard to swallow.

 

If SK doesn't do something soon i might go that way but I'm not feeling particulary comfortable with aquilla either *shrugs*

What does scum LZM look like?

[Nynaeve]

No idea