[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

[ed2funy]

 

 

I need to move my vote. 

 

As for 3 suspects, I feel like Lenlo should have made more of a splash by now. Adam I kind of expected to be a bit dismissive like he has been. I'm not wanting to lynch Tigraine today I don't think. Could potentially see Ed as scum though.

 

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[v]Ed[/v]

 

 

 

Okay, but for real,  

Everyone who voted because of my activity about to get beat down. 

Seph's push on that was meta from four games. Show me actual raisins. 

 

I get not being here was bad form and all, but that isn't a reason to lynch. 

[Zander?]

 

And well at least now with Nyn's game being over, Tig has 0 excuses.  She's online again now so hey Tig please state one of the following please,

 

"I am Town"

 

"I am not Scum nor am I 3rd Party"

 

"I am not 3rd Party or Scum"

 

"My alignment is Town"

 

The reason Im giving multiple ones is the fact like Nini she tried to discredit/shade my LD question by saying maybe i have some sort of special Wincon with getting people to say "I am Town."  So I want there no be 0 wiggle room for her not to say it.

 

I did not say that. How did you get that from my post? There had been a lot of set up talk, which is not strange at all in a game like this. We have a player that isn´t a real player and TLM seems to be able to controll what people see. (I take that from Shad´s texts.) There were talk about  if that it could mean recruitment of some kind. So that is the reason that I said that a ld might not work out the way it should. I did not realise that you claimed ld. I have not said anything about you having some kind of special wincon. 

 

I am town.

 

My alignment is town. 

 

I am not third party or mafia.

 

I´m town, not third party or mafia. 

 

 

You need to read the sentence in context, its pretty clear imo.

 

I said LIKE Nini,  meaning you tried to discredit it as well.  I even quoted your discrediting post as well.

 

IRT Red: If you didnt realize I "claimed" LD why did you it might not work?!!?!?!?!

 

I also havent ACTUALLY CLAIMED anything either.  I wish youd read my posts correctly cause its frustrating because its keeping me thinking your Scum and if youre actually a Villager its distracting from trying to get the correct read on you.

 

 

 

everyone please state youre Town please...

 

no reason for this prolly

 

Already did but I´ll do it again. I´m town. 

 

If this is some kind of conversion game or if people can get manipulated it might not mean much though. 

 

[ed2funy]

 

 

 

 

Tig Need you to type the words I am Town out to me please

 

Also want to see a 3 person WTL (Willing To Lynch) list with reasoning please!!!!!!

I'm working on my list for you but am really curious about this "i am town" deal. I don't care to state my alliance but I'm not sure I should. While people are going to say that seems scummy I'm just wondering if it's some kind of win condition for you or are you soft claiming LD?

 

Am I the only one that hasn't stated it? Does no one else find it odd? His 2nd or 3rd post stated he was town then he began asking immediately for everyone to say it. I'm not caught up but has anyone else expressed curiosity as to why you are asking this of people?

 

 

 

 

I'm sure this will be discussed as I read on, but why not just say it? 

 

I find it hard to believe a win condition would be to make everyone say something like that when it clearly would indicate a LD or fake claim. 

That'd be bastard modding, and DPR is playing this game not running it. 

 

 

Straight up, I have never and will never run a bastard game. I won't even play 'em. Not my thing. 

 

Why are you slinging that kind of dirty stuff around? I haven't even been on your case - this looks kinda like a dogwhistle to bring attention to me instead of you. 

 

 

LOL, it was a joke.  

[DPR]

 

 

 

 

 

Tig Need you to type the words I am Town out to me please

 

Also want to see a 3 person WTL (Willing To Lynch) list with reasoning please!!!!!!

I'm working on my list for you but am really curious about this "i am town" deal. I don't care to state my alliance but I'm not sure I should. While people are going to say that seems scummy I'm just wondering if it's some kind of win condition for you or are you soft claiming LD?

 

Am I the only one that hasn't stated it? Does no one else find it odd? His 2nd or 3rd post stated he was town then he began asking immediately for everyone to say it. I'm not caught up but has anyone else expressed curiosity as to why you are asking this of people?

 

 

 

 

I'm sure this will be discussed as I read on, but why not just say it? 

 

I find it hard to believe a win condition would be to make everyone say something like that when it clearly would indicate a LD or fake claim. 

That'd be bastard modding, and DPR is playing this game not running it. 

 

 

Straight up, I have never and will never run a bastard game. I won't even play 'em. Not my thing. 

 

Why are you slinging that kind of dirty stuff around? I haven't even been on your case - this looks kinda like a dogwhistle to bring attention to me instead of you. 

 

 

LOL, it was a joke.

 

 

 

Oh, i see...

 

That was funy. 

 

HEH

[ed2funy]

 

 

 

 

I need to move my vote. 

 

As for 3 suspects, I feel like Lenlo should have made more of a splash by now. Adam I kind of expected to be a bit dismissive like he has been. I'm not wanting to lynch Tigraine today I don't think. Could potentially see Ed as scum though.

 

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[v]Ed[/v]

why do you think ed is scum? 

adding my other Question here

Who would you lynch besides ed, was it lenlo?

I need to move my vote. 

 

As for 3 suspects, I feel like Lenlo should have made more of a splash by now. Adam I kind of expected to be a bit dismissive like he has been. I'm not wanting to lynch Tigraine today I don't think. Could potentially see Ed as scum though.

 

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[v]Ed[/v]

why do you think ed is scum?

 

Because I agree with aforementioned case on him. He was more ON last game, thinking independently and making good conclusions. Here it feels like he's just going through the motions.

 

 

 

 

 
#rl #kthx

[Lenlo]

So doing my D2 reread like usual, and big question. Post 93, Sooh claims that Hackers are town aligned, even though TLM is a terrorist in the series, and is using this reasoning to make TLM out like a town slot. What is the basis for this? My character isnt a hacker. Neither were any of the ones who have died.

[Lenlo]

Since the Hackers are town alligned and the laughing man is a hacker (albeit terrorist) it might suggest he's a good character?

[Killashandra]

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty damn sure ed is scum

Then why aren't you voting him?

Because I think adam could be scum as well. I really liked the people on this wagon, barring killa's recent post and I did not want to just abandon it. besides that ed starts to post around that time and if you kept reading you should know why.

 

 

 

 

First, on phone.

 

So I wanna point out for DPR, since he is conviently ignoring this fact, I never criticized the TLM spec, I criticized the Cory spec. 2 different things, so don't try to pretend voting TLM is counter to what I've said. It's not.

 

Second, TLM is the/a bad guy in the show Zander. Yeah, he's a less awesome V, but the good guys from this show are in the government (Sector 9 I think) so there's your perspective.

Dpr is touching on this but lenlo's lack of game related posts is disturbing. and is nothing but spec on TLM.

 

The bolded is one thing that bothered me about dpr's vote, but I honestly am having a hard time seeing this dude as scum this game.

 

Dpr who are you sussing besides lenlo? if you already said ill find it later

First spoiler tag:

"Ed is scum"

"Adam could be scum"

*votes ed*

 

Okay. Sounds like you were just optioning me as your second choice like some dirty little side piece.

 

Will see any other thoughts on this. Like, yay for not being Lynched. Just doesn't sit right when someone so blatantly options like that.

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Second spoiler tag:

Actually not much to say here except was after DPR's case - which I'll have to read again because I was at work. Agree Lenlo was posting low content (heh @ hypocrites) and speculating on TLM. Still more comfortable with Lenlo's explanation that he had distinct separation of Cory/TLM

 

 DEAD

 

 

 

Also in relation to DPR and Seph sussing Lenlo now... I feel I little better about why lenlo's posts struck me as funny. Though to me it was funny haha more than funny as in wtf. I got called out by a few folks for saying that about Lenlo and now that the well known players are doing so it becomes legit and not scummy at all. Funny that.

 

After the game is over can some one help me figure out why I read so scummy every game even though I am town. I would be very grateful.

It's your face. And how you phrase things. Trust me, I know. :cries:

 

 

 

 

 

FML

 

I had a whole post and then Darthe was nk. Now I have to re-adjust every gd thing. I dont know if I really like this whole post at night bit. Its mod choice of course but I liked the way Nyn did it. No offense Shad <3

 

Now I have to back up a little again.

 

I agree that tig is being thin on her ISO. She had much more tin foil in the last two games I played with her. Like for me she had a whole huge page of theories just about me. In the resent SG game she made a really good case about Adella and was totally right in the end. 

 

Ed seems to be making a come back imo. I dont know if its town yet but he is picking up the pace today at-least but then again he did the same in a way in the SG game. The closer he got to lynch the harder he fought. 

 

Sooh still seems town to me I dont think her last few posts changed that for me at all. I think I saw someone say the opposite? I wish the folks that have played more with her knew why she feels off to them because I cant see it.

 

That is all I have on the top of my mind. Anything else will have to come after a reread with Darthe flip in mind. 

[Zander?]

I will re-read the thread once d2 starts. 

 

I thought Seph´s emo posts were a bit strange. I´m not saying that it shows any alignment, they just seemed out of place.

 

I can see why Sooh reacted the way she did when Zander pressed her. I think it makes her look more townie to me. 

 

I like how everyone like making it out like i bullied/tunneled/attacked Sooh ffs.

 

 

I think zander is confusing what you said with what Tigs said

 

 

Im pretty sure I even wrote the ppst in English not Zanderese.

 

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[Zander?]

I had inspections today on my apartment... I love in the project's and have to do this once a month. I'm getting back on my reads of everyone and still have the list for zander.

 

I am town

I am not scum or wolf or mafia or 3rd party.

My alignment is town.

I won when we eliminate all threats to the town.

 

Short of promising you my first born, that's all I've got. And that's actually up for discussion. He's 11 and thinks he's 40. You're welcome to him.

 

FFS

 

I didnt say you had to say them all I was disproving your foolish wincon comment tht said i had to get everyone to say "I am Town" by laying out different was for you to say it and would still be able to be effective for a LD if necessary. 

[Zander?]

 

Sooooo....

 

Sooh Town

 

Darthe just got a play by play but no read

 

Dice Town?

Null read on Darthe...don't feel there is enough to go on as of that post.

 

Leaning town in Sooh as of that post.

 

Kinda on the fence about Dice but leaning more towards scum as of that post.

 

 

Youre doing a lot of fence sitting and very little of anything else.....

 

 

 

 

Also, adams town. Ive never read a post of his, but the people voting for him lose a lot so im confident.

FINAL VOTE COUNT

 

Lenlo (2) - DPR, Niniel

 

Adam (5) - seph, Dice, Killashandra, Zander, Lenlo

 

Ed (3) - Sooh, Nyn, Adam

 

Sooh (1) - Darthe

 

Not Voting: Tigraine, Ed

 

Adam has been lynched.

http://www.dmwwdb.net/playerstats20.php?sort=gwsort

 

Based on the players with 20+ Games on Adams train irt Darthe's comment and seeing seph's GOAT response.

 

Zander Win% 57%

Dice Win % 52%

seph Win% 50%

Lenlo Win % 48%

Killa- N/A

 

DERF Win% 42

 

Adam is dead.

 

He was

 

 

Operator -- Vanilla Cyborg, Town aligned

 

 

 

oh and his tachikoma avatar died too

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean dont get me wrong son, I suck at this game but that one was easy.

 

Alright you were right here.

 

good stuff.

[seph]

I am about to read some sooh scum games here in a bit since I have only seen 1 when she was mia.

 

That killa post Is pretty bad

[Lenlo]

Page 11 of reread so far. Looking at DPR, Seph and Niniel. Zander is pretty towny. Youll get more as it comes.

[dicetosser1]

 

Cop Killa (Darthe)

Doc Zander

Vig ed (Tigs)

 

 

 

Morning people

 

 

What are the brackets for Nyn?!!?!?!

 

 

about ripping off arms and beating zander to death with them

 

 

sounds like something zander or i would say but not you.

 

 

plus it almost a direct movie quote from a movie im sure u havent seen.

 

 

its wigged me out a little

 

 

seriously?!?!!? 

 

Nyn threatening me wigged you out?!?!!?!?.....?!?!?!?

 

Weird AF

 

Tho I dont actually hate the read itself, I usually have a stronger read on Nyn atp.  I know she's working and busy so Im obv factoring that in but still...wish i felt better about her atp.

 

sadface.gif

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.dmwwdb.net/playerstats20.php?sort=gwsort

 

Based on the players with 20+ Games on Adams train irt Darthe's comment and seeing seph's GOAT response.

 

Zander Win% 57%

Dice Win % 52%

seph Win% 50%

Lenlo Win % 48%

Killa- N/A

 

DERF Win% 42

 

 

 

LOL Darthe. Classic.

 

 

DPR Win% 40%

 

 

 

Never tell me the odds.

 

 

 

 

Its not the threatening you bit  its the actual words she used.....which you would have seen if you could read as i told her that!

 

 

@dice what did you think of tigs catch up posts?

Most people are reading her based on d1 content and I'm curious to see what more people think of her catchup

 

im skeptical. its easy to come in late and say things that look good.  its much harder to do it while the thread is flowing.

[Tigraine]

Zander- first of all, you're a 49ers fan? Been a tough few years on you huh darlin?

 

Anyway, I see you started your very first post saying you're town and then this post http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/100533-advanced-ghost-in-the-shell-night-1/?view=findpost&p=3782912 followed by requesting permission to edit the post. Reading it now, mixed with your first post out of the gate saying I am town, I guess I was just to daft to miss the claim insinuations. It's still very odd for me to have townies be so blatant.

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/100533-advanced-ghost-in-the-shell-night-1/?view=findpost&p=3783192

 

I can't figure out how you or anyone else thinks it is such a big stretch to assume your motives are possibly recruitment. Shad's OP mentioned possibly finding yourself in a QT so that was my very first thought. As well as when you started asking people to say "I am town" pretty much from the start. Questioning you on that, especially mixed with the mysterious TLM, just seems like good sense and seems like a good thing for us townies to do. I mean, you seem like an intelligent person...except for the 49ers thing, so why is it so hard for you to conceive of such a thing?

 

I'm not done with Zander but thought I'd post what I have.

 

I understand that it's hard for people to fathom why it would take so long to make a post of that's size but i am a single mom of three. While I'm ISOing someone I am also keeping a page open to keep up with what is currently being said in the thread. mix that with track meets, inspections and sleeping...I apologize that it's not up to standards.

[Zander?]

Is the way tigs is posting rn how she has been posting all game?

 

If so I can see why she is getting wolf read.

 

 

lolololololol

 

Darthe called Adam Town and Tig and Sooh iirc Scum, if he's right on them, Ill def tip my hat off to him post game.

 

 

 

Male models

 

 

 

 

 

If ed is a mafia or I think Leno has a good chance to flip mafia. If he is a goon the move wasn't needed and I would like to think town?

 

I could see kill fitting in here possibly darthe

 

If he is town well fml. And we are reading the game wrong.

Would look at one of nyn/sooh

Darthe

Dice or tigs. Tigs is kinda my wildcard and could see her mafia with sooh.

 

The bottom is my tinfoil for kinda a worst case scenario as I think

1. Dice has been town and kind of agressive? I liked how tigs made her point about him on her catchup because I recently told him it was what made me start to think he was mafia the day b4 they won.

 

Tigs... I wanna lean town because the catchup was good. She read isos and gave her general thoughts without much clutter.

 

Darthe his posting was irrelevant d1 and pops in right b4 dl like his last scum game. He isn't putting in work m and the dude knows he can town tell if he wants to as town.

His comments and how he phrased them towards sooh and tigs bother me.

 

Sooh is my tinfoil and this is the 1st game I'm having trouble or have had trouble in a long time...

But her eod 1 was good, and she responded pretty well to pressure imo.

 

 

Hanna make a list I think then sleep

 

IRT Red- Darthe thought the same. Im thinking its quite possible, tho Adam was 95% certain Sooh was Town.

 

IRT Orange-  Can you explain both lines out to me please???

[seph]

Adam was at 4 votes.

Zander you were pressuring people to consolidate.

Ed got to 3 and then Leno votes Adam up to 5.

I think Leno was at 2 at that point?

 

I need to look at lenlo thoughts towards Adam at eod

[Killashandra]

I am about to read some sooh scum games here in a bit since I have only seen 1 when she was mia.

That killa post Is pretty bad

 

What exactly is bad? I tried to make a point that tig is not playing the same. Someone noticed her iso was thin and I gave two examples of how she usually has more to say or what she says has more meaning that what she is posting in this game.

 

What else is bad? Asking for an opinion on sooh because I dont see other doubts about her being town?

 

Pointing out that ed started fighting hard and increased his posting when he was close to lynch as a wolf? Why is that a bad thing to notice and point out?

 

Tell me at least what you think is wrong with the post instead oh that was bad. Anyone can say anything is bad but it doesnt mean anything unless you say why.

 

I am trying.

[Lenlo]

Adam was at 4 votes.

Zander you were pressuring people to consolidate.

Ed got to 3 and then Leno votes Adam up to 5.

I think Leno was at 2 at that point?

 

I need to look at lenlo thoughts towards Adam at eod

I voted adam to make Zander happy. No other lynch was happening at that point, and Zander was badgering me about consolidation. Theres no other reasoning than that.

[seph]

Killa, a lot of it has to do with my opinions on the game and who is scum currently.

 

For 1 I know a lot of people dislike night talk, because it favors the town. But how you went about complaining about it makes me think you are scum. This also goes into my thinking ed is scum and is probably shading how I view you atm

 

Your first part of the post about Darthe I didn't read as genuine

[Killashandra]

Zander- first of all, you're a 49ers fan? Been a tough few years on you huh darlin?

Anyway, I see you started your very first post saying you're town and then this post http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/100533-advanced-ghost-in-the-shell-night-1/?view=findpost&p=3782912 followed by requesting permission to edit the post. Reading it now, mixed with your first post out of the gate saying I am town, I guess I was just to daft to miss the claim insinuations. It's still very odd for me to have townies be so blatant.

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/100533-advanced-ghost-in-the-shell-night-1/?view=findpost&p=3783192

I can't figure out how you or anyone else thinks it is such a big stretch to assume your motives are possibly recruitment. Shad's OP mentioned possibly finding yourself in a QT so that was my very first thought. As well as when you started asking people to say "I am town" pretty much from the start. Questioning you on that, especially mixed with the mysterious TLM, just seems like good sense and seems like a good thing for us townies to do. I mean, you seem like an intelligent person...except for the 49ers thing, so why is it so hard for you to conceive of such a thing?

I'm not done with Zander but thought I'd post what I have.

I understand that it's hard for people to fathom why it would take so long to make a post of that's size but i am a single mom of three. While I'm ISOing someone I am also keeping a page open to keep up with what is currently being said in the thread. mix that with track meets, inspections and sleeping...I apologize that it's not up to standards.

This is more like the tig posts from her other games.

[ed2funy]

 

 

@ sooh can you describe his town/scum games to any extent?

no, I can't. I don't remember.

Then how can you compare this game to his scum or town games? Doesn't really make sense

 

 

Pretty sure this is about me. 

Really don't like this interaction. Like, how blatant can y'all be that you have crappy raisins? 

[Lenlo]

So up through page 15 now, and I have noticed I attributed alot of Sephs pushing of Cory/TLM (He was the main culprit of that) to DPR. So I wanna retract some of the wolf read/statement made about him. Seph gets all of that transferred to him.

[ed2funy]

 

 

 

@ sooh can you describe his town/scum games to any extent?

no, I can't. I don't remember.

Then how can you compare this game to his scum or town games? Doesn't really make sense

 

The way I remember Adam's posts in games is like this, short and dismissive. I don't think that's different depending on alignment. 

 

Who said I was comparing this game to any other game of his?

 

 

 

Ah. It was about Adam? 

 

Well, you still had crappy raisins for voting/pushing me. 

[Lenlo]

Also, all this is gonna get glommed into one big post, so youll be getting reasons and post numbers to reference all of this play-by-play.