[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

Shad_ · April 30, 2017

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Niniel (1) - Zander

Seph (1) - Ed

Nynaeve (1) - Niniel

Lenlo (1) - DPR

Adam (1) - seph

Not Voting: Darthe, Sooh, Killa, Lenlo, Nynaeve, Tigraine, Dice, Adam

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

I like this post. Both about Lenlo and Nyn.

Can you expand about what you liked about it irt your thoughts?

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

-_-

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

So far the only one I believe is town is DPR. Dice seems okay but haven´t done much. The same goes for Sooh.

I don´t know about Zander. He´s very engaged and it looks townie. And he had some good thoughts about Nyn that I agree with. But he is wrong about me and he has kept his vote on me for some time now. His ld question could mean anything - a real question or a way to look town. I´m not sure about Zander. I would like to say town but I hesitate to do so. Maybe I´m biased because of his vote on me?

Ed and Darthe are not here. Tigraine is not here much either.

I don´t get a good feeling from Seph´s posts and I don´t know why. I need to re-read them later. I really don´t know about Kill. Not fond of Lenlo´s posts so far. Need more from Nyn.

WHAT ABOUT MY NEEDS?!?!

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

[v] Nyn [/v]

Heh. Interesting

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

Mmmmmmhhmmmm

DPR · April 30, 2017

3 things Id like to see from everyone please!!!

1. State youre Town please.

2. Thoughts on this mysterious Laughing Man thing.

3. Has anyone watched the cartoon?

1. Make me.

2. NPC, curious if its a trap if we lynch it because its so obvious, or if its the legit way to win the game.

3. I have.

OoooKay, so in the sign-up thread, the "in" post I was remembering form Cory was #31, which is not an actual "in" so much as an acknowledgement of being listed as in the game.

Regardless, dude was signed up to play, then he dropped, then he edited his drop posts. So there's that.

Recruitment mention posts incoming.

I think this Cory thing is stupid. We have no reason to believe he is in the game, it was advertised as a 13 or 16p game, which leads me to believe the Laughing Man was going to be in the game regardless of actual player numbers.

This argument about whether or not Cory is in the game, when we have no evidence in the actual game only in the signup thread, to support it smells of fear mongering to me.

Interesting.

The idea of speculating whether it was Cory in the game had nothing to do with Cory and everything to do with preparing to deal with whatever role TLM does actually play. Who the player is doesn't matter. That it might be a live player vs. a mod device does.

So when Seph voted and then unvoted, it raised that question of it being a trap, especially if its a mod device. I pointed out the information about Cory because I find it a possibility that he might actually play that role - I've run games where I had players post as character before.

You calling it fear-mongering is weird... what is there to be afraid of? We know we have the character/player, so spec'ing on what it does seems like a good idea.

Fear-mongering was probably not the most appropriate word, but it seemed good enough to me. I may have misinterpreted the convo, but it seemed to me focused on whether or not Cory the player was actually that role or if he was in the game, and less focused on the mechanics of TLM. If you want to discuss the former, then I think you are fear-mongering about the existence of a player who most believe to be pretty skilled. If the latter, then please do. I encourage it. I think its probably an npc role, the real question is if it is an obvious trick to waste a turn or if its a legit thing we should lynch. I should mention, I believe I was the first person to bring about the idea of TLM being a trap so I have in no way tried to stifle conversation about it.

So tl;dr, fear-mongering to me was in reference to the idea that Cory, a skilled and respected player, was in the role because it makes some people very nervous about it. I also think the mention of recruitment, which we have no evidence of, is very likely to sow some discord and distrust in later stages if it is constantly referenced. Dont worry about recruitment until we have a reason to is my motto, otherwise town will tear itself apart.

I tried to trim this 3 times and failed misrabely so deal. Jfc

Like i said before, lenlo's stance mirrors my own. And in a world where lenlo makes sense I'm not sure i want to be right. But i still think i am. Getting good vibes overall though so there's that. God help us all...

LOL

When you're past your phone issues, I'd love to get your thoughts on my take on his post.

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

well i dont have any wolfbros this game but your right I would enjoy it

Dice got any musings so far? If you have already and i missed it, pull it up for me (yeah yeah, that's what she said).

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

Was really hoping to see more from Nyn

sadface,gif

Adam 95% sure shes Town because of how she acts on Discord even tho hes never actually played Mafia with her.

I think Ninis been Scummy yet shes voting Nyn

And Killa who pinged me bad at lest made me pull off sussing her for now and shes Town reading Nyn

TLDR

You guys wanna just lynch Dice when he goes to bed!?!?!?!

Yeah I sewm ro be pretry popular this game. Finding it equally odd

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

3 things Id like to see from everyone please!!!

1. State youre Town please.

2. Thoughts on this mysterious Laughing Man thing.

3. Has anyone watched the cartoon?

1. Make me.

2. NPC, curious if its a trap if we lynch it because its so obvious, or if its the legit way to win the game.

3. I have.

OoooKay, so in the sign-up thread, the "in" post I was remembering form Cory was #31, which is not an actual "in" so much as an acknowledgement of being listed as in the game.

Regardless, dude was signed up to play, then he dropped, then he edited his drop posts. So there's that.

Recruitment mention posts incoming.

I think this Cory thing is stupid. We have no reason to believe he is in the game, it was advertised as a 13 or 16p game, which leads me to believe the Laughing Man was going to be in the game regardless of actual player numbers.

This argument about whether or not Cory is in the game, when we have no evidence in the actual game only in the signup thread, to support it smells of fear mongering to me.

Interesting.

The idea of speculating whether it was Cory in the game had nothing to do with Cory and everything to do with preparing to deal with whatever role TLM does actually play. Who the player is doesn't matter. That it might be a live player vs. a mod device does.

So when Seph voted and then unvoted, it raised that question of it being a trap, especially if its a mod device. I pointed out the information about Cory because I find it a possibility that he might actually play that role - I've run games where I had players post as character before.

You calling it fear-mongering is weird... what is there to be afraid of? We know we have the character/player, so spec'ing on what it does seems like a good idea.

Fear-mongering was probably not the most appropriate word, but it seemed good enough to me. I may have misinterpreted the convo, but it seemed to me focused on whether or not Cory the player was actually that role or if he was in the game, and less focused on the mechanics of TLM. If you want to discuss the former, then I think you are fear-mongering about the existence of a player who most believe to be pretty skilled. If the latter, then please do. I encourage it. I think its probably an npc role, the real question is if it is an obvious trick to waste a turn or if its a legit thing we should lynch. I should mention, I believe I was the first person to bring about the idea of TLM being a trap so I have in no way tried to stifle conversation about it.

So tl;dr, fear-mongering to me was in reference to the idea that Cory, a skilled and respected player, was in the role because it makes some people very nervous about it. I also think the mention of recruitment, which we have no evidence of, is very likely to sow some discord and distrust in later stages if it is constantly referenced. Dont worry about recruitment until we have a reason to is my motto, otherwise town will tear itself apart.

Still weird, and for the same reason as the first time. You're the one trying to push Cory as a threat - who cares who an npc player actually is?

The relevance is that it's either an active account or it's a device and the reason to figure that out is to determine whether or not it's going to have an effect on the game the way a live player would, interacting with players and evolving opinions as they go along. Or, If it's just a device, then we figure out what it does and see if it can benefit us. We do that by outlining what we are looking for and keeping an eye on things.

I feel like I explained that before, in which case you could have said "okay - good idea" like you did to some extent above. Instead, you threw in the part about Cory being a threat, and you mention it twice, which make it look like you really wanted to make that point.

A townie trying to solve the game doesn't warn about distraction and then add a layer of distraction - just sayin'. Then you go on to talking about recruitment again, which is even more distraction when nobody is pushing that idea or making a case over it - it got mentioned like things do, dealt with, and now it seems to be out of the way except for you bringing it up.

I've bolded all of the negative terms that stick in my brain like little thorns and my takeaway is that this ain't no townie post.

[v] Lenlo [/v]

All I see is Lenlo explaining in detail his use of the word fearmongering, since it was pointed out earlier as odd (dont remember by who).

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

Ed, darthe and tigs need to post more. Or you know, at all

DPR · April 30, 2017

3 things Id like to see from everyone please!!!

1. State youre Town please.

2. Thoughts on this mysterious Laughing Man thing.

3. Has anyone watched the cartoon?

1. Make me.

2. NPC, curious if its a trap if we lynch it because its so obvious, or if its the legit way to win the game.

3. I have.

OoooKay, so in the sign-up thread, the "in" post I was remembering form Cory was #31, which is not an actual "in" so much as an acknowledgement of being listed as in the game.

Regardless, dude was signed up to play, then he dropped, then he edited his drop posts. So there's that.

Recruitment mention posts incoming.

I think this Cory thing is stupid. We have no reason to believe he is in the game, it was advertised as a 13 or 16p game, which leads me to believe the Laughing Man was going to be in the game regardless of actual player numbers.

This argument about whether or not Cory is in the game, when we have no evidence in the actual game only in the signup thread, to support it smells of fear mongering to me.

Interesting.

The idea of speculating whether it was Cory in the game had nothing to do with Cory and everything to do with preparing to deal with whatever role TLM does actually play. Who the player is doesn't matter. That it might be a live player vs. a mod device does.

So when Seph voted and then unvoted, it raised that question of it being a trap, especially if its a mod device. I pointed out the information about Cory because I find it a possibility that he might actually play that role - I've run games where I had players post as character before.

You calling it fear-mongering is weird... what is there to be afraid of? We know we have the character/player, so spec'ing on what it does seems like a good idea.

Fear-mongering was probably not the most appropriate word, but it seemed good enough to me. I may have misinterpreted the convo, but it seemed to me focused on whether or not Cory the player was actually that role or if he was in the game, and less focused on the mechanics of TLM. If you want to discuss the former, then I think you are fear-mongering about the existence of a player who most believe to be pretty skilled. If the latter, then please do. I encourage it. I think its probably an npc role, the real question is if it is an obvious trick to waste a turn or if its a legit thing we should lynch. I should mention, I believe I was the first person to bring about the idea of TLM being a trap so I have in no way tried to stifle conversation about it.

So tl;dr, fear-mongering to me was in reference to the idea that Cory, a skilled and respected player, was in the role because it makes some people very nervous about it. I also think the mention of recruitment, which we have no evidence of, is very likely to sow some discord and distrust in later stages if it is constantly referenced. Dont worry about recruitment until we have a reason to is my motto, otherwise town will tear itself apart.

Still weird, and for the same reason as the first time. You're the one trying to push Cory as a threat - who cares who an npc player actually is?

The relevance is that it's either an active account or it's a device and the reason to figure that out is to determine whether or not it's going to have an effect on the game the way a live player would, interacting with players and evolving opinions as they go along. Or, If it's just a device, then we figure out what it does and see if it can benefit us. We do that by outlining what we are looking for and keeping an eye on things.

I feel like I explained that before, in which case you could have said "okay - good idea" like you did to some extent above. Instead, you threw in the part about Cory being a threat, and you mention it twice, which make it look like you really wanted to make that point.

A townie trying to solve the game doesn't warn about distraction and then add a layer of distraction - just sayin'. Then you go on to talking about recruitment again, which is even more distraction when nobody is pushing that idea or making a case over it - it got mentioned like things do, dealt with, and now it seems to be out of the way except for you bringing it up.

I've bolded all of the negative terms that stick in my brain like little thorns and my takeaway is that this ain't no townie post.

[v] Lenlo [/v]

All I see is Lenlo explaining in detail his use of the word fearmongering, since it was pointed out earlier as odd (dont remember by who).

It was me who called it weird.

Just to be clear, you feel pretty okay with his pov? And you don't feel like he was the one that actually introduced and pushed the "fear" part of the issue?

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

Zander is an annoying soab but he seems ok. Should look into his ocd issues though cause... damn. Liking Sooh and Lenlo to some degree as well. Lenlo mostly due to stances, Sooh for that partly but also tone and composure. She seems almost....smug? Not sure how to explain it but i think it's a good sign for her.

Killa and Adam town reading me early on is weird af. Zander's line of questiining on that looked decent but I'd like to hear from both killa and Adam irt my questions. Iffy iffy

Irt Nin's vote i found it weird at the time but i think it might be a nudge vote so whateves. Eh.

DPR kind of a mystery right now. I'd be worried that we have total opposite impressions but then again last game the same happened irt Ley so it might not mean anything really.

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

3 things Id like to see from everyone please!!!

1. State youre Town please.

2. Thoughts on this mysterious Laughing Man thing.

3. Has anyone watched the cartoon?

1. Make me.

2. NPC, curious if its a trap if we lynch it because its so obvious, or if its the legit way to win the game.

3. I have.

OoooKay, so in the sign-up thread, the "in" post I was remembering form Cory was #31, which is not an actual "in" so much as an acknowledgement of being listed as in the game.

Regardless, dude was signed up to play, then he dropped, then he edited his drop posts. So there's that.

Recruitment mention posts incoming.

I think this Cory thing is stupid. We have no reason to believe he is in the game, it was advertised as a 13 or 16p game, which leads me to believe the Laughing Man was going to be in the game regardless of actual player numbers.

This argument about whether or not Cory is in the game, when we have no evidence in the actual game only in the signup thread, to support it smells of fear mongering to me.

Interesting.

The idea of speculating whether it was Cory in the game had nothing to do with Cory and everything to do with preparing to deal with whatever role TLM does actually play. Who the player is doesn't matter. That it might be a live player vs. a mod device does.

So when Seph voted and then unvoted, it raised that question of it being a trap, especially if its a mod device. I pointed out the information about Cory because I find it a possibility that he might actually play that role - I've run games where I had players post as character before.

You calling it fear-mongering is weird... what is there to be afraid of? We know we have the character/player, so spec'ing on what it does seems like a good idea.

Fear-mongering was probably not the most appropriate word, but it seemed good enough to me. I may have misinterpreted the convo, but it seemed to me focused on whether or not Cory the player was actually that role or if he was in the game, and less focused on the mechanics of TLM. If you want to discuss the former, then I think you are fear-mongering about the existence of a player who most believe to be pretty skilled. If the latter, then please do. I encourage it. I think its probably an npc role, the real question is if it is an obvious trick to waste a turn or if its a legit thing we should lynch. I should mention, I believe I was the first person to bring about the idea of TLM being a trap so I have in no way tried to stifle conversation about it.

So tl;dr, fear-mongering to me was in reference to the idea that Cory, a skilled and respected player, was in the role because it makes some people very nervous about it. I also think the mention of recruitment, which we have no evidence of, is very likely to sow some discord and distrust in later stages if it is constantly referenced. Dont worry about recruitment until we have a reason to is my motto, otherwise town will tear itself apart.

Still weird, and for the same reason as the first time. You're the one trying to push Cory as a threat - who cares who an npc player actually is?

The relevance is that it's either an active account or it's a device and the reason to figure that out is to determine whether or not it's going to have an effect on the game the way a live player would, interacting with players and evolving opinions as they go along. Or, If it's just a device, then we figure out what it does and see if it can benefit us. We do that by outlining what we are looking for and keeping an eye on things.

I feel like I explained that before, in which case you could have said "okay - good idea" like you did to some extent above. Instead, you threw in the part about Cory being a threat, and you mention it twice, which make it look like you really wanted to make that point.

A townie trying to solve the game doesn't warn about distraction and then add a layer of distraction - just sayin'. Then you go on to talking about recruitment again, which is even more distraction when nobody is pushing that idea or making a case over it - it got mentioned like things do, dealt with, and now it seems to be out of the way except for you bringing it up.

I've bolded all of the negative terms that stick in my brain like little thorns and my takeaway is that this ain't no townie post.

[v] Lenlo [/v]

All I see is Lenlo explaining in detail his use of the word fearmongering, since it was pointed out earlier as odd (dont remember by who).

It was me who called it weird.

Just to be clear, you feel pretty okay with his pov? And you don't feel like he was the one that actually introduced and pushed the "fear" part of the issue?

You know i cant trim these right? Pretty douchy.

Anyways, i feel like he hit the nail on the head with the whole cory discussion that was taking place. It was innane. I don't feel like he was pushing it, no. He did say that it seemed to him like fearmongering, if i recall (can't double check cause i will lose my post if i open another tab). So sure he said the word first i guess. So what? Stands to reason that if he's asked about using the word then he's going to explain it. I wouldn't qualify that as him "pushing it".

Niniel · April 30, 2017

Zander is an annoying soab but he seems ok. Should look into his ocd issues though cause... damn. Liking Sooh and Lenlo to some degree as well. Lenlo mostly due to stances, Sooh for that partly but also tone and composure. She seems almost....smug? Not sure how to explain it but i think it's a good sign for her.

Killa and Adam town reading me early on is weird af. Zander's line of questiining on that looked decent but I'd like to hear from both killa and Adam irt my questions. Iffy iffy

Irt Nin's vote i found it weird at the time but i think it might be a nudge vote so whateves. Eh.

DPR kind of a mystery right now. I'd be worried that we have total opposite impressions but then again last game the same happened irt Ley so it might not mean anything really.

Sort of. I´m not totally seeing what I think is town Nyn but I know how annoying it is when I don´t have time to play but still try.

[unvote]

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

I can't petform the way i used to, period. You guys can either accept it or prove what i knew already but willfully ignored when i signed up.

I'll stop emoing now though. Just been a long day. I'll bbl after some coffee and getting out of these icky uniforms.

ed2funy · April 30, 2017

:huh:

Real life got the the best of me and I had to take care of house stuff and do errands all day long and just didn't get a chance to get back on. brb for real reading before I have to go drop off my brother at work.

Sooh · April 30, 2017

I'm liking Nyn so far.

[v]Darthe[/v]

Killashandra · April 30, 2017

Sorry Nyn, honestly I meant to make one D1 surface read of a few people I saw as leaning town and then Zander dragged it out into this total crazyness I was not expecting. In the end it was not even about you. It was about Zander making me do back flips over one odd post. Which is fine I guess but it has really made me look bad. I will just keep trying to move along but the whole game now is going to focus on this for my reads the rest of my time in game. That will be seriously annoying. *le sigh*

Now it all looks weird as F and I totally dont blame you for feeling that way.

I need some coffee and I will be back.

Nynaeve · April 30, 2017

I'm not sure why you're apologizing.

Shad_ · April 30, 2017

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Niniel (1) - Zander

Seph (1) - Ed

Lenlo (1) - DPR

Adam (1) - seph

Darthe (1) - Sooh

Not Voting: Darthe, Killa, Lenlo, Nynaeve, Tigraine, Dice, Adam, Niniel

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Sooh · April 30, 2017

This is a vote count that lynches a scum *nods*

Killashandra · April 30, 2017

This is a vote count that lynches a scum *nods*

Rofl. Truly.

Lenlo · April 30, 2017

[v]The Laughing Man[/v]

I wanna see what happens.

Adam33 · April 30, 2017

This is a vote count that lynches a scum *nods*

Let's lynch someone inactive :)

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