[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

[dicetosser1]

@DPR

 

riddle me this Pirateman!

 

Is it impossible for 2 hackers to hack each other?

[Killashandra]

I have not qt no pr, no nothing I am just vt and lost as hell and followed my best instinct of what was the best move. 

[DPR]

@DPR

 

riddle me this Pirateman!

 

Is it impossible for 2 hackers to hack each other?

 

 

I would think that it is possible. 

 

But we know for sure that a real hacker can hack cyborgs and TLM.

 

We also know that no matter what you say, you claimed hacker but have no hacks, performed just by you, to hold up as proof.

[DPR]

With myself, DPR, Ed, and nyn town. Doesn't it stand to reason that seph, dice, and Killa are our three scum?

 

 

This is exactly the scenario we're looking at. Tigs nailed it, even before the voting started and Seph flip-flopped. Occam's Razor. 

[seph]

 

 

1. congrats you are in a qt in which our town cop could not enter, and no one but you 2 has access to. This isn't really a point that the rest of us can comment on, and since your both scum together you can just as easily be lying.

2. again how you being able to hack make you town? you realize the puppet is a bad guy who can hack right? 

your right I don't know dice is a hacker and im still confused on why you bring this up as it has 0 to do with anything I have said about you.

ok sooo lol to explain to dpr on how this works.

I know i am town

The game is still going and there are 3 people voting dice. If tigs or killa was scum this game would be over. so yes I know that the 3 voting dice have to be scum

3. I was wrong on him all game, you have tied him to townies and refused to reevaluate the slot AT ALL. you even started out the day with him the same you did with niniel. If me and dice were scum together and I set him up to bus him this move makes literally 0 sense as I could have easily gone for tigs, or if nyn or ed was town I could have gone after ed much much easier than what I am doing now. You think I would take the hardest path to victory as scum ??? lol what

no I am taking the hardest path because this is the only way that town can win, and I am not backing down.

its funny how out of the 3 people voting dice, you are literally the only vocal one, while ed just kinda repeats what you say.

 

 

TOTAL LIE. i didn't even read past the bold.

 

Any hacker can get in. 

 

ed can prove that tonight. Tigs can try again when dice is gone and I'll betcha she gets in. 

 

Lie lie lie to save your scum team.

 

 

This is for Seph, who just said he didn't say what the bold clearly shows he said.

Roflmfao.

 

You told me I said that no one else can hack tlm.

 

I was making a point that you and nyn saying your in a qt together doesn't really help the rest of us figure it out, especially me when I don't believe you in the first place.

 

 

Your trying to spin things gain to fit your narrative.

It has to do with the cop and dice getting the same result vs you and nyn and it literally has never been about me saying that no one can hack tlm, I have literally never stated anything remotely close. Dice is the only one who mentions it, or at least something close after tigs claims.

 

It's literally amusing listening to all the cap you bring up.

 

 

Roll at you guys for calling it emo. It's called win and I promise you I want to win more than anyone else on this game

[dicetosser1]

 

Even if I were to really believe some of my own tinfoil, only one of Nyn and DPR could be mafia, imo. 

 

You and Dice and some pretty nifty coordination. DPR and Nyn could have have some coordination on the QT, but also, one of them could be working with you two. 

Also, notice how Dice's results are always revealed after someone else reveals them? Don't y'all call that pocketing or something? Where he follows townies to gain town cred?

 

Oh. OKAY. So y'all coming in and placing half the votes in the game down without consulting anyone is fine? I'm not going to blindly follow who I think is most likely scum, Seph. 

 

Killa wouldn't vote you, Seph. I hope not. Voting you doesn't make sense.

 

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Killa! We have a chance to win this still. Don't give up! 

 

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Dice, you keep saying you hacked and got these replies, but they're after everyone else. i.e. no proof of hacking e.g. all posturing for town cred

 

Dice, I think we lynch you and we get a couple of more days out of this game! 

 

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Seph you can't say you're game solving and then go and blast me for voting on who I think is most likely scum

You didn't give the thread time to consult you on it. :eyeroll:

 

Seph, Dice said he received the same results as Tigs and myself. #pocketingattempt

 

Like, sure, if he didn't get a result one or even two of the nights, but all three? Come on, dude, open your eyes. 

 

 

I get lynched we lose. You then owe me a great big "i am a bananahead and shoulda listened to Dice!" after the game.

 

I HAVE a result. Im in a QT with Tigs. See my question to DPR and feel free to answer it.

 

in fact add this "what do you think would happen if 2 hackers hacked each other the same night?

.

 

 

Seph, I totally applaud this end game vigor. I do. 

What I don't applaud is trying to steer the game in only one direction.

 

Put your tinfoil hat on with me.

 

Do you think Dice, DPR, and probably Nyn are on a team? 

Go crazy with me

 

 

Even I dont think DPR and Nyn are m/m. If im wrong and DPR flips town its nyn but i dont think its nyn

 

 

Killa, yes it is crazy! But it's also beautiful and *shimmmies* so exciting. 

We have a chance to come back from Lylo here! And after that, it's a pretty easy win. 

 

I know you're burnt out, but we can wrap this up quickly. If you're town, we can figure out the rest of the game. 

I'm completely sold on Dice/Seph being w/w

 

your completely wrong.

 

 

 

1. congrats you are in a qt in which our town cop could not enter, and no one but you 2 has access to. This isn't really a point that the rest of us can comment on, and since your both scum together you can just as easily be lying.

 

 

So he is lieing is he??

 

Are you or are you not in a QT with nyn?

 

Did or did not Tigs say she hacked TLM too and did NOT get that QT? (im not even mentioning the fact that I did cause u wont accept that)???

 

 

 

So tell us again how Seph is lieing here?

[dicetosser1]

Fact is even YOU have to admit that if Tigs and I hack each other it is both possible and likely to result in a QT.

 

Fact is that is EXACTLY what happened. we couldnt prove the SAME THING about you and seph until ed hacked you.

[DPR]

We've been over all of this, dice. 

 

You can wiggle all you want, but it ain't gonna change the truth. 

[dicetosser1]

youre right its not gonna change the truth that im town.

 

your absolutely right there

 

 

also wont change the truth that you ARNT.

[ed2funy]

Dice, I hacked Seph. Not DPR...

[Tigraine]

This is insane!

 

First, I forgot to put R & U I believe so there it is.

 

Second, this game has been a crazy roller coaster and the biggest nail biter I've ever been in.

 

Third, I really have no idea where to go with this.

 

Whoever is scum, you've all played exceedingly well. I mean Bravo!

 

I was completely set on lynching Dice or Ed today. I still really don't like Dice's explanation on why he targeted me when he thought he could be the Doc but really wasn't sure what his NA would do. It's just so hard for me to fathom why town would do that.

 

Honestly though, this whole thing between Seph and DPR has boggled my mind. I find it so hard to believe that you two were singing each other's praise one minute then the next minute you are at each other's throats like you have been.

 

So many scenarios have went through my head and since it is literally down to my vote, I'm going to walk you through each and every scenario I have thought just today.

 

First was Dice/Seph/Killa scum team. That was after my "peek results" were read.

 

Then i thought, well maybe it's DPR/Nyn/? Hadn't figured that third person out yet but the reason for this is because the results could've been fabricated. In order for that to have happened, since two people claim to have seen them, they both have to be scum. Eds town result was legit because they knew he was town and like a dummy, I didn't leave an ace in the hole to be able to tell if someone had really gotten the results.

 

Then I got to thinking maybe Seph and DPR worked this up to put massive chaos on the thread and encouraged two trains to build with them on opposite sides so if we take out the one that is actually scum then it would be so obvious to us that the other was not becauae of this uproar and if we got town then they win. Because I know as well as they do that if three people jumped on one train quicker than you can say greased lightning then we would all be very Leary about lynching that person. Then I really put some thought into it and added dice to the mix so that either way we would get scum but we would trust the other when day comes yada yada.

 

I literally don't know which way to go here. There are so many possibilities and atp I don't trust a single person on this thread. No joke.

 

So I'm at an impasse, what do I do?

 

I'm trying to think of interactions between each group of people throughout the game and it's truly just insane.

 

If you all thought I'd come in, vote right off the bat, and seal the deal, you are sadly mistaken. I have played like crap most of this game and this is my only chance at redemption.

[Killashandra]

I believe in you tig. You are clever and even if you get it wrong you did not play baldy.

[seph]

Tigs I understand your situation completely.

 

The mafia team from your pov is.

Dice seph kills

 

Or dpr ed nyn

 

 

If you have any questions I am here but I think I have literally explained everything and why those 3 are scum.

[Nynaeve]

Tigs i specifically told you not to share who you peeked n3. I'm pretty sure you ignored me and said it before i was able to get on but that's besides the point. How would i know who you peeked? There was a reason for my request. And you could have vetted it easily if you just freaking waited.

[Nynaeve]

Im on my way to work now so cant stay long

[Nynaeve]

Ie if you had peeked dice... i would have told you the result of a view on dice is there and you'd know for a fact that i have access to the TLM qt, cause again, how would i know you peeked dice? I get that you peeked TLM in the end and got no results for some reason and so on but the principle of it still stands. I wanted to fashion a way fir it to be vetted.

[Nynaeve]

W/e. I did my best this game and whatever happens happens. Fwiw i wouldnt wanna be in your shoes right now. I was a tie breaker in lylo in a game in MU and suffice to say it wasnt a happy ending.

 

Glgl

[Nynaeve]

Gotta bounce. I'll be about after work

[ed2funy]

Tigs, you've got all day to read up.

Tell your cousins it's their turn to tend the farm and crank that wheel to keep your internet going.

 

I think they've personally well, because I kept scum reading them and then Town reading them, back and forth. About to head to work, but I'll be here!

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

DPR (3) - Dice, Seph, Killa

 

Dice (3) - DPR, Nynaeve, Ed

 

Not Voting: Tig

 

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

 

This is LYLO. Votes will be locked in place once cast.

 

[seph]

Tigs, do me a favor and just read the last few pages of eds iso. He isn't doing anything to actually game solve here and almost everyone of his ideas or pushes on dice are the exact same thing dpr has been saying...

 

They are trying to discredit dice as a hacker just like dpr did to niniel. The thing is you are in a qt with him and we know hackers can hack each other in regards to manbat and ed. Dice literally had the same view as you and did not hold back what he received.

 

When I bring up the discrepancy over the hack results in the thread and say it's my reason for trusting dice, over dpr who I have read as town literally this entire game. He spends literally 30 mins or more and tried to come up with 3 different scenarios where a role blocker could work here.

After all that has been discussed ed comes in and tries the same exact thing trying to explain how a role blocker is plausible day 3 and it is dice.

 

Let me tell you something if dice planned this since day 2 when none of this was going on I would be more than impressed and it would literally be the best play I have ever seen because nothing was headed towards the direction it took today.

 

A rb literally never happens just on day 3.

 

Besides Who would seriously have a role block night 2 with 2 prs outed that they could roleblock? It never makes sense!!

Tigs I'm telling you the scum team got over confident with the game and literally blew this the last day.

 

 

 

I'd be fine with Dice or Nini for Lynch tbh.

He's trying to pocket me by lock clearing me off of what I said.

 

 

Once again here is someone else tiring the two together, and once again he never re evaluates his read after niniel flips town.

 

 

 

 

Is No Lynch an option still? That could always work to prolong our time to think?

[v]No Lynch[/b]

  

Here is his very next post. After wanting to Lynch dice or niniel he goes to no Lynch which is probably one of the scummiest things in the game and never moves his vote towards the two people he wanted lynched even when no Lynch was never going to happen.

 

Tigs and Killa need to come vote. Once Dice is done for, we can come after Seph and Killa. 

 

#sometinfoilonNynstillbutnotreally

 

Killa will probably vote DPR with her team to even up DPR/Dice trains. Then it's up to Tigs.

 

OK this post is here because if ed is voting dice and they think you are town tigs. The scum.tram in there eyes has to be

 

Me, dice , Killa

 

But just look how dpr and Ed talk to killa. They are telling her she is scum, and telling her that this game is not over and we have a chance trying to actually get her to vote with them.

 

If they thought she was scum why would they care if she voted or not?? It just doesn't add up.

 

Then look.when I explain to killa about the votes and how if she is town those 3 have to be scum and just look at the other sides reactions.

 

I'm a go pull em up to make it easier.

[seph]

 

how?

there is actually 7 alive.

If we miss lunch 6

nk 5

 

mafia then has 3 alive

town has 2 and we lose

 

I am confused on what you and dpr are going on about seriously

Because if you're town and you think I'm scum then even if we lynch correctly today, we're still gonna lose.

 

posts like this bother me and make 0 freaking sense.

 

If I am town and nyn is scum or vice versa we can never lynch correctly and lose.

 

Dice - dpr, nyn , ed

 

DPR- dice, seph, kill

 

There are 3 mafia, and if one townsperson is on the wrong person we lose. It takes 4 townys for us to lynch 1 mafia and with it being tied up everyone on the other train is all mafia.

[seph]

baf didnt get to them and robin is off. ill find um in a bit

[DPR]

You're just clogging the thread again to pull away from what Nyn said, which makes sense.  

 

You accuse me of "saying the same thing over and over" and then you do it yourself.

 

Both sides are going to fight to win, but the further away you get from what is most likely, the higher the possibility that you are scum.

 

Your entire game view has flopped to fit your narrative and you keep posting and posting and posting.

 

Tigs don't need more reading to catch up on. Enough has been said. At this point, if I was her, I'd trolol the game and make everybody wait all day, then let it go random. Just so I didn't have to read more :P

[seph]

Tigs and Killa need to come vote. Once Dice is done for, we can come after Seph and Killa. 

 

#sometinfoilonNynstillbutnotreally

 

Killa will probably vote DPR with her team to even up DPR/Dice trains. Then it's up to Tigs.

 

  

Here is one by Ed. The thing I don't understand is why dpr and Ed are trying to plead with killa to vote with them and make her own decision.

They have voted so for them to be right on dice they have to believe she is scum. It literally looks more like they are trying to get any person remaining to vote with them. They are not games solving they are looking for a mislynch. If those 3 were town they would know tigs is the last town and if killa were scum she would vote against them.

 

Ed and dpr literally keep her as a open option to vote with them until I explain to killa how if she is town voting with them never makes sense.

 

 

Seph, I totally applaud this end game vigor. I do. 

What I don't applaud is trying to steer the game in only one direction.

 

Put your tinfoil hat on with me.

 

Do you think Dice, DPR, and probably Nyn are on a team? 

Go crazy with me

  

 

Once again as town how does this make sense. Your trying a fake attempt at a game solve and trying t draw me in with a distraction.

The votes are were 2vs 3 at the time and this does nothing to help the game since ed already voted.

 

 

Especially ultralame emo beggars. 

 

That's not gamesolving. That's cheap puppy dog eyes.

 

  

I put this in here because I think it's funny, they literally keep shouting 1 thing about dice over and over. He can't prove his claim, killa can't and I can't so we have to be scum. Sorry dpr that isn't how mafia works.

 

 

 

 

Lol! This is all crazy. All of it and all of you. Any one who plays mafia should probably get their heads examined.

(Jk kinda)

 

I really need you to trust me here :( I know I don't deserve it but I want to win this more than anyone and I know I am on the right path here.

 

Lame.

 

Don't trust anyone.

 

Make your own decisions based on what you see.

Why would a town dpr say this to someone he literally said is scum?

his poe is literall

killa,dice,seph

 and everyone on dice literally has to think the same to vote himkilla if your town that should pretty much make it obvious since the game is literally not over yet. you are not scum, tigs is not scum. 

we need 4 to lynch someone

dice-3

dpr-2

with 3 votes if you think tigs is town voting dpr is the only option here, it literally makes the other 3 scum or should in your eyes.

 

 

Dpr trying to sway killa... it literally looks they are just aiming to get another vote regardless of who it is, it makes no sense coming from a Towne trying to gamesolve.And here is my post when I hope I broke dprs and eds hearts