[Advanced] Fight Club Mafia! - Game Thread!

[ed2funy]

 

 

Vote count!

• Darthe - 6 - Cuth, DreadPirateRoberts, Seph, Songstress, Dicetosser1, Darthe
• Seph - 3 - DreadPirateRoberts, Ed2funy, Cuth
• Cuth - 4 - Seph, Songstress, Dicetosser1, Ed2funy,
• DeadPirateRoberts - 2 - Darthe, Ironeyes

Day Two nomination phase ends at 11pm Eastern

Seph, check the VC. Tress had 1.

I'd rather have seen you and Cuth fight, so why keep vote on Tress? I cases you and Treas and had some notes on Cuth because I wasn't sure about him.

[seph]

Instead of typing what a joke how about telling me what u disagree with? And actually try to play the game.

 

What have you even done this game besides sheep cuth, seriously. You have been nothing but counter productive.

[seph]

Also dpr do us a favor and actually make a case on why I'm scum. I'm pretty interested to read that crap

[seph]

Comes in talks crap, and leaves lol. Most his gameplay

[dicetosser1]

 

 

ok.

 

i think i know why she said it but id like to see her respond to you first.

Dice, any thoughts on mine and Tress's back and forth?

Dice, yes you said you were gonna give input.

 

 

i think she said something different but my thinking was that i dont think tress has played with wifi much, so isnt used to wifi. Wifi plays to the beat of a whole different band.

 

i have a migraine so that may not be clear enuff   if it isnt let me know.

 

 

 

@nol   their talking about coroner being in the game cause sooh had no role on her flip and then darthe claimed coroner

[Ironeyes]

 

 

 

ok.

 

i think i know why she said it but id like to see her respond to you first.

Dice, any thoughts on mine and Tress's back and forth?

Dice, yes you said you were gonna give input.

 

 

i think she said something different but my thinking was that i dont think tress has played with wifi much, so isnt used to wifi. Wifi plays to the beat of a whole different band.

 

i have a migraine so that may not be clear enuff   if it isnt let me know.

 

 

 

@nol   their talking about coroner being in the game cause sooh had no role on her flip and then darthe claimed coroner

 

 

And Darthe said he's gonna coroner-ize (whatever the word is, I dunno) Sooh. 

 

In other news, it's 1:30 am and this spanish essay is getting harder to write by the minute

[BFG]

 

Darthe and Seph are dirty.

This is quite possible.

 

If you're town, almost certainly.

Why?

[BFG]

I thought Coroner seemed like a strange role for this game but due to jumping in when I did I didn't feel like it was right to vote one way or the other.

Sooh was killed at night with no flip, so at the least a janitor seems likely

 

Beyond that is gaming the mods <3

[Nolder]

 

@nol   their talking about coroner being in the game cause sooh had no role on her flip and then darthe claimed coroner

 

 

 

 

I thought Coroner seemed like a strange role for this game but due to jumping in when I did I didn't feel like it was right to vote one way or the other.

Sooh was killed at night with no flip, so at the least a janitor seems likely

 

Beyond that is gaming the mods <3

 

Oh ok. Didn't realize there had already been evidence of a Jan.

Thanks.

[BFG]

Sorry, I'll be back at lunch with real thoughts

[BFG]

 

Final Vote Count!

• Songstress - 4 - Ed2funy, Sooh, Wildfire Sedai, Cuth
• DeadPirateRoberts - 4 - Darthe, Seph, Sooh, BFG
• The Crusher - 1 - Wildfire Sedai
• Sooh - 2 - The Crusher, Dreadpirateroberts
• Darthe - 3 - Cuth, Dreadpirateroberts, BFG,
• Seph - 1 - Ed2funy
• Cuth - 4 - Ironeyes, Seph, Dicetosser1, Darthe

 

The D1 fight will be between two people randomly selected from Songstress, DreadPirateRoberts, and Cuth.

@Nolder you were asking who WiFi voted? Iirc she voted to even out trains

[BFG]

 

Final Vote Count!

 

• Cuth - 1 - Ironeyes
• No Lynch - 8 - Dreadpirateroberts, Ed2funy, Crusher, Sooh, Darthe, Songstress, BFG, Wildfire Sedai 

 

Nobody died.  It is now Night One!  Night One ends at 5:00 PM Eastern on Monday, 3/20.

Everyone may now post.

  

 

Vote count!

 

• Darthe - 6 - Cuth, DreadPirateRoberts, Seph, Songstress, Dicetosser1, Darthe
• Seph - 3 - DreadPirateRoberts, Ed2funy, Cuth
• Cuth - 4 - Seph, Songstress, Dicetosser1, Ed2funy,
• DeadPirateRoberts - 2 - Darthe, Ironeyes

 

Day Two nomination phase ends at 11pm Eastern

 

[BFG]

 

Final Vote Count!

 

• Cuth - 1 - Ironeyes
• No Lynch - 8 - Dreadpirateroberts, Ed2funy, Crusher, Sooh, Darthe, Songstress, BFG, Wildfire Sedai 

 

Nobody died.  It is now Night One!  Night One ends at 5:00 PM Eastern on Monday, 3/20.

Everyone may now post.

  

 

Vote count!

 

• Darthe - 6 - Cuth, DreadPirateRoberts, Seph, Songstress, Dicetosser1, Darthe
• Seph - 3 - DreadPirateRoberts, Ed2funy, Cuth
• Cuth - 4 - Seph, Songstress, Dicetosser1, Ed2funy,
• DeadPirateRoberts - 2 - Darthe, Ironeyes

 

Day Two nomination phase ends at 11pm Eastern

 

She voted no lynch in the first fight and not at all yesterday

[DPR]

 

I thought Coroner seemed like a strange role for this game but due to jumping in when I did I didn't feel like it was right to vote one way or the other.

Sooh was killed at night with no flip, so at the least a janitor seems likely

 

Beyond that is gaming the mods <3

 

 

 

Why is that gaming the mods? Seems like trying to decide if a claim is false or not is part of regular play, no?

[DPR]

Instead of typing what a joke how about telling me what u disagree with? And actually try to play the game.

 

What have you even done this game besides sheep cuth, seriously. You have been nothing but counter productive.

 

 

Also dpr do us a favor and actually make a case on why I'm scum. I'm pretty interested to read that crap

 

 

Comes in talks crap, and leaves lol. Most his gameplay

 

What a complete mess you are.

 

I've already stated that I would post cases after day for obvious reasons.

 

LOL at you for sitting out N1 but now you're all ready to go. Just so we can keep a clear tally of your slips tonight:

 

1. Yet another completely unnecessary reveal (at least hinted at).

2. Don't know who is playing the game.

3. Asks for cases at night despite the fact that he didn't want to talk during last night.

4. Complains about my level of activity and "lack of making cases", but doesn't question Darthe's absence at all.

 

Just terrible, terrible play. 

[seph]

1. Deal with it I'm tired of your crap.

2. Actually I do it says so on page one, I can read it for you if you are having trouble.

3. I wasn't available last night, and if you want to wait it's fine.

4. I questioned farther and was one reason I voted for him. Stop acting like you know what the hell you are doing. None of us now who is who except the mafia, and I know I can't be right everytime. But when I majority of the people in this game I am viewing the same on at least some level.

 

If your town your always just a hindrance regardless because all you like to do is pick fights over pointless crap. And the way you play in general is just anti town, but that's your own choice and isn't alignment indicative, just annoying.

[BFG]

 

 

I thought Coroner seemed like a strange role for this game but due to jumping in when I did I didn't feel like it was right to vote one way or the other.

Sooh was killed at night with no flip, so at the least a janitor seems likely

 

Beyond that is gaming the mods <3

 

Why is that gaming the mods? Seems like trying to decide if a claim is false or not is part of regular play, no?

At the moment all we know about setup is that there's at least a 1-shot janitor in the game. Anything beyond that is setup spec based on mostly conjecture

 

More info will be known after night ends though

 

More relevantly Darthes claim doesn't clear him for several reasons, but to an extent he's now self resolving

[DPR]

 

Instead of typing what a joke how about telling me what u disagree with? And actually try to play the game.

 

What have you even done this game besides sheep cuth, seriously. You have been nothing but counter productive.

 

 

Also dpr do us a favor and actually make a case on why I'm scum. I'm pretty interested to read that crap

 

 

Comes in talks crap, and leaves lol. Most his gameplay

 

What a complete mess you are.

 

I've already stated that I would post cases after day for obvious reasons.

 

LOL at you for sitting out N1 but now you're all ready to go. Just so we can keep a clear tally of your slips tonight:

 

1. Yet another completely unnecessary reveal (at least hinted at).

2. Don't know who is playing the game.

3. Asks for cases at night despite the fact that he didn't want to talk during last night.

4. Complains about my level of activity and "lack of making cases", but doesn't question Darthe's absence at all.

 

Just terrible, terrible play. 

 

 

 

1. Deal with it I'm tired of your crap.

2. Actually I do it says so on page one, I can read it for you if you are having trouble.

3. I wasn't available last night, and if you want to wait it's fine.

4. I questioned farther and was one reason I voted for him. Stop acting like you know what the hell you are doing. None of us now who is who except the mafia, and I know I can't be right everytime. But when I majority of the people in this game I am viewing the same on at least some level.

 

If your town your always just a hindrance regardless because all you like to do is pick fights over pointless crap. And the way you play in general is just anti town, but that's your own choice and isn't alignment indicative, just annoying.

 

 

The above is posted so I can keep track of your responses:

 

1. I call out your unnecessary reveal and you respond with "Deal with it I'm tired of your crap". 

 

How is that an answer? How is that Town play? What reason could you possible have for this? That you are so overcome with emotion over my play that you just couldn't help tell everybody you're a pr?

 

Nah. You've played bad and you look dirty. That reveal is just you trying to do whatever you can to stall your own lynch.

 

2. I'll go back and pull up your post again, but you including your reads or Crusher and Nolder - especially when you have the op to refer to - is just a scum slip, plain and simple.

 

3. Again, not really an answer? I'll go back and pull up the quote, but I remember you saying something about not liking night talk. I guess you meant for every other not except for tonight? 

 

4. You have not questioned his claim at all. You have not questioned his absence, his complete lack of sensical thought nor the fact that both of you just got Cuth dead. So no, you have not questioned farther.

 

If none of us knows "who is who", how come you and Darthe have pushed so hard for my lynch with no case? This is a huge scum tell - the old "nobody knows who each other is!" is classic shuffle after you just screwed up and killed a townie. Unbelievable.

 

LOL at you calling my play anti-town. I'm pretty sure I'm the one that has supported town play all game. You and Darther are the lead players in killing Cuth - and that was for no reason, btw. No real case at all. Just emo. 

 

If you are town - which I highly, highly doubt - you need to put that emo in check. Light a candle, have a glass of chardonnay and get ahold of yourself because you are sucking harder than a Dyson. 

[BFG]

I'm actually pretty uncomfortable with the apparently generally accepted view that one or more of Seph/Darthe/DPR(/Cuth) must be scum. Genetically most mafia don't commit that hard

 

Obvious problem this time is that Darthe and DPR style their play on not generic

 

That said I need to reread but afaict the argument stems from Darthes 'joke' vote and Sephs (and Soohs) unexplained votes. I can sort of see DPRs point that ~baseless votes are scummy, the problem is that at the time they were made there was nothing* real to base a vote on and that not enough happened afterwards to 'move on'.

 

DPRs posts since involve conjecture, overstatements etc, but Cuth flipping town grounds them in a possible town reaction. There was also no real attempt to save him from elimination end of day 1. Problems I have are possibly just playstyle related, I struggle somewhat with a narrative approach

 

I don't see Sephs vote as being scummy and overall his approach is more understandable lol. His Poe is similar, his frustration reads genuinely to me (although lolme at trying to read emotions in gameplay), eh I'll try to expand on (or at least articulate better) this later

 

Darthe is to an extent self-resolving

 

 

 

 

*WiFis odd reaction to being voted withheld because WiFi can 'overreact'

[DPR]

 

 

 

I thought Coroner seemed like a strange role for this game but due to jumping in when I did I didn't feel like it was right to vote one way or the other.

Sooh was killed at night with no flip, so at the least a janitor seems likely

 

Beyond that is gaming the mods <3

 

Why is that gaming the mods? Seems like trying to decide if a claim is false or not is part of regular play, no?

At the moment all we know about setup is that there's at least a 1-shot janitor in the game. Anything beyond that is setup spec based on mostly conjecture

 

More info will be known after night ends though

 

More relevantly Darthes claim doesn't clear him for several reasons, but to an extent he's now self resolving

 

 

Agreed on the self-resolving part.

 

But I think that conjecture canoe useful in limited cases - this being one - where we can ask ourselves "what would the point of that role be?".

 

It instantly cleared Darthe - who knew that it would, giving him a very strong motive for his reveal.

 

But what else? How does it fit into the game? Is anyone really wondering what alignment Sooh was? Does it matter?

 

Speculation on the usefulness of such a role is exactly what I think is beneficial because it helps to put light on the reveal. Especially in light of the fact that we have been given Cuth's alignment, greatly decreasing any need for a Coroner role and casting doubt on it's existence in general. 

 

Still don't see how it is gaming the mods? In my experience, "gaming the mods" is play that negates the spirit of the game. Speculation on the possible existence of a reveal does not do that. 

 

Personally, I find it anti productive to not question both reveals and the qualities of a possible Coroner.

[DPR]

LOL me - of course, I'd rather question the reveals after we have the info from tonight. 

[BFG]

I'm more worried by the majority of the game that are doing nothing

 

Most important in this are Hallia and Crusher, both of whom had one or two game posts Day 1 and nothing(?) since. Think Hallia posted that shed catch up/play on Monday, I know we've had almost 2 days of not being able to post but this isn't a difficult game to keep up with even if getting reads feel like scraping nails along a chalkboard

 

Crusher I remember a post on Sooh Day 1 and nothing game related since (a post about struggling with the setup?)

 

 

WiFi can be included here as she was around, but not involved more than the others, her readslist read WiFi light, but is now replaced and I'm willing to give Nolder chance to play

[seph]

 

 

Instead of typing what a joke how about telling me what u disagree with? And actually try to play the game.

What have you even done this game besides sheep cuth, seriously. You have been nothing but counter productive.

 

 

 

Also dpr do us a favor and actually make a case on why I'm scum. I'm pretty interested to read that crap

 

 

 

Comes in talks crap, and leaves lol. Most his gameplay

 

 

What a complete mess you are.

 

I've already stated that I would post cases after day for obvious reasons.

 

LOL at you for sitting out N1 but now you're all ready to go. Just so we can keep a clear tally of your slips tonight:

 

1. Yet another completely unnecessary reveal (at least hinted at).

2. Don't know who is playing the game.

3. Asks for cases at night despite the fact that he didn't want to talk during last night.

4. Complains about my level of activity and "lack of making cases", but doesn't question Darthe's absence at all.

 

Just terrible, terrible play.

 

 

1. Deal with it I'm tired of your crap.

2. Actually I do it says so on page one, I can read it for you if you are having trouble.

3. I wasn't available last night, and if you want to wait it's fine.

4. I questioned farther and was one reason I voted for him. Stop acting like you know what the hell you are doing. None of us now who is who except the mafia, and I know I can't be right everytime. But when I majority of the people in this game I am viewing the same on at least some level.

If your town your always just a hindrance regardless because all you like to do is pick fights over pointless crap. And the way you play in general is just anti town, but that's your own choice and isn't alignment indicative, just annoying.

 

 

 

The above is posted so I can keep track of your responses:

 

1. I call out your unnecessary reveal and you respond with "Deal with it I'm tired of your crap". 

 

How is that an answer? How is that Town play? What reason could you possible have for this? That you are so overcome with emotion over my play that you just couldn't help tell everybody you're a pr?

 

Nah. You've played bad and you look dirty. That reveal is just you trying to do whatever you can to stall your own lynch.

 

2. I'll go back and pull up your post again, but you including your reads or Crusher and Nolder - especially when you have the op to refer to - is just a scum slip, plain and simple.

 

3. Again, not really an answer? I'll go back and pull up the quote, but I remember you saying something about not liking night talk. I guess you meant for every other not except for tonight? 

 

4. You have not questioned his claim at all. You have not questioned his absence, his complete lack of sensical thought nor the fact that both of you just got Cuth dead. So no, you have not questioned farther.

 

If none of us knows "who is who", how come you and Darthe have pushed so hard for my lynch with no case? This is a huge scum tell - the old "nobody knows who each other is!" is classic shuffle after you just screwed up and killed a townie. Unbelievable.

 

LOL at you calling my play anti-town. I'm pretty sure I'm the one that has supported town play all game. You and Darther are the lead players in killing Cuth - and that was for no reason, btw. No real case at all. Just emo. 

 

If you are town - which I highly, highly doubt - you need to put that emo in check. Light a candle, have a glass of chardonnay and get ahold of yourself because you are sucking harder than a Dyson.

OK OK ok lol. This is literally the best post you have made all game imo.

 

So 1. I'm literally just tired of your play, you sheep a known Towne with no original thoughts except the 1 about Darth dissappear which could be said about 30% of the game right now.

 

2. Should be extremely interesting on how my read of crusher who has literally done nothing comes into play here. WiFi read I have explained, but the lack of content starts to override my early tone read. Because I know you love those so much.

 

3. Actually it was a answer, and I never d

Said that. Robin was off and I didn't feel like talking. Ps I usually never shut up.

 

4.what should I question exactly about his claim? Darth didn't do anything until n1 and up until his fight his posts were not terrible but him and cut were two I obviously wanted in the fight that night.

 

OK ok ok, so if you are town here dpr and I am town. Where do you think the mafia are at? I still need to read read you, but I had a problem with your whole fight d1, and the whole no lynch idea seemed way to coincidental.

 

Then fight two you were the only one to not believe darthe, as even cut believed him but that isn't relevant here.

Yet at end of fight not only are you not voting darthe, you vote what seemed like one of your strongest town reads... you realize you helped lynch him to right? You could have not voted or voted no lynch, but you didn't.

So please tell me what made you vote cuth?

And don't forget my other question of who do you think is mafia if I am town, because I know the answer to.that one, and you are wrong.

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

I thought Coroner seemed like a strange role for this game but due to jumping in when I did I didn't feel like it was right to vote one way or the other.

Sooh was killed at night with no flip, so at the least a janitor seems likely

 

Beyond that is gaming the mods <3

Why is that gaming the mods? Seems like trying to decide if a claim is false or not is part of regular play, no?

At the moment all we know about setup is that there's at least a 1-shot janitor in the game. Anything beyond that is setup spec based on mostly conjecture

 

More info will be known after night ends though

 

More relevantly Darthes claim doesn't clear him for several reasons, but to an extent he's now self resolving

Agreed on the self-resolving part.

 

But I think that conjecture canoe useful in limited cases - this being one - where we can ask ourselves "what would the point of that role be?".

 

It instantly cleared Darthe - who knew that it would, giving him a very strong motive for his reveal.

 

But what else? How does it fit into the game? Is anyone really wondering what alignment Sooh was? Does it matter?

 

Speculation on the usefulness of such a role is exactly what I think is beneficial because it helps to put light on the reveal. Especially in light of the fact that we have been given Cuth's alignment, greatly decreasing any need for a Coroner role and casting doubt on it's existence in general.

 

Still don't see how it is gaming the mods? In my experience, "gaming the mods" is play that negates the spirit of the game. Speculation on the possible existence of a reveal does not do that.

 

Personally, I find it anti productive to not question both reveals and the qualities of a possible Coroner.

Trying to solve the game based on setup spec feels borderline gaming the mods to me (and worse it's pointless spec when we know as little as we do now). I know that we have to question role claims, but now isntvthe time imo and I mostly phrased it that way so I'd stop setup speculation (lolme)

[BFG]

In advance I'm away this weekend and will have limited availability :/

 

I do want to reread, thankfully (?) games short so should be possible