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  1.   On 6/19/2025 at 8:22 PM, WoTwasThat said:

    Another big problem - aside from the terrible adaptation - is the show just looked so cheaply produced and yet somehow cost a fortune to make. 
     

    Here is a good example. Taken right from the show…


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    Good Lord. That is the fakest damned pyre I’ve ever seen. And everything looks too clean, too staged. The whole show looked like this. Why?

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    I had a theory more based on hope than anything, which will never be proved either way, but my theory was the show started so clean and simple becuase that is how the early books were written, simplistic fantasy with characters with fairly basic stories......theres many theories as to why the books got so much better as they progressed and im not here to discuss them, but my theory was that as the show progressed, it would get deeper and darker as per the books doing the same....

     

    it started to head in this direction in season three and i was secretly hoping it had found its feet around the same time Jordan did in the books.....

     

    it was just a theory and im not trying to say Jordans books were as simple as the show, just a progression into a deeper told story...

     

    hence why the sets looked so clean, to Mimic that 'simplistic' world view... 

  2. im really enjoying the season and i loved the tanchico parts of this episode...

     

    weak points for me were the healing of Alana, and, one i cant see brought up much anywhere at all, is Egwene removing the whole Lieing about being an Aes Sedai arc.....i get she hasnt got a ring....but one of her biggest 'maturing' moments was owning up and accepting the consequences of her actions....

     

    that said, maybe its not that big a deal in this short format....

     

    rest of everything was really cool, Joshua coming into his own here...

  3. Tuon and Hawkwing for sure, infact Tuon and just about anybody that would make her question her culture more....

     

    a slight nuance on the theme but i would have prefered the main characters to have spent more time together once they developed into their roles.....

     

    maybe could have explored Mat/Perrin and Rands friendship bond better and let them work together

     

     

     

     

    oh...Faile and Shadar Haran would have been great too

  4. imagine if Perrin left Faile and took up a relationship with an obviously more politically savy Berelain....imagine if he put duty above what is basically, a teenage crush....

     

    imagine if he developed as a man and fell for the more experienced and travelled woman, and let the younger Faile be free and find herself....

     

    i have major issues with the Perrin/Faile relationship.....i know Jordan wasnt great at romance...but these two are headed for serious relationship problems, i mean, she flat out refuses to acknowledge his culture when it comes to 'courting'...shes an eejit....

  5.   On 11/17/2023 at 3:58 PM, Samt said:

    Yes. But making a good show is also important.  WoT is struggling because it isn't a well made show.  I know there are lots of reasons for that and maybe it's a difficult IP to adapt.  But that is the heart of the problem.  

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    i actually like the show....i love the books...i like the show....

     

    its a bit hard if your trying to expand the audience to make a like for like WOT and expect great numbers in 2023...

     

    that said...they could have been a lot truer to the books and just tweaked it a bit around the more 'dated' parts and still ended up with a blockbuster

  6. i re read the series 'every couple of years'...

     

    takes me around a year to get through the 14 books.

     

    i do have to say...once i start the 're read', im not one to have other books going. once i start, its WOT or nothing.

     

    i have never done it, but i read someone on here went through the whole books just reading one characters arc (say, Rand) which i thought would be good.

     

    when i finished my last complete re read,  i went back to when Mat 'captured' Tuon....as i love the whole courting of them two....and read (only)Mat through to the end of book 13....its actually not that easy to do

  7. havent got a lot to offer here, but yeah, shes one of my favorite characters as the books slowed down shes front and centre

     

    i love the books, i flit in and out of alot of stories....currently enjoying the travelling show/Tuon/Mat arc ....

     

    not sure if anyone here realises but she has ample bossom...not that mat would look

  8.   On 10/13/2023 at 3:02 PM, melegant said:

    In the show, how did anyone see what was happening on top of that tower? Rand just pops his head up and everyone is like 'Hail the Dragon'?

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    to be fair, you could also frame this a brilliant framing from the showrunners....even though i can see you are not in the mood to concede such ground.

     

    Rands grip on authority was ever so fickle.

     

    in book form you can flesh it out....in show form, leaving such doubts out there as ' well not many people actually saw it happen' could be seen as good production. 

  9. i loved so much about this season.

     

    alot to talk about.

     

    not mentioned alot but i think Rands treatment of Turak was better than the books, he even suprised himself.

     

    he didnt really earn the right to be equal in the sword fight in the books (i know, he was being bettered), also the books are littered with moments where he just blows people away with his power.... so too me it really worked well.

     

    a shame Renna Died, would have loved to see her journey and THAT final scene with the band.... i thought the character had a future in the series.

  10. going to keep this as brief as possible.

     

    that. was. more. like .it

     

     

    i was OK with season one but it was to the weak end of the scale....these first three episodes are really great....Nyn in the arches is better than the book.

     

    the story telling is great....now im removed from thinking it will mimick the books, so long as it motors along 'next to' the storyline and the 'main' characters end up completing the 'main' plot points, ill be happy, and if it keeps tracking the way it is, ill probably be actually even happier to live the epic series again without knowing everything that will happen next.

     

    loved so many things

     

    the arches

    Cairhien

    Mat and Min

    Liandrin and her son

    Liandrin being a conflicted character

    Ishmael

    the conversation with the child and the trolloc

    Selene is awesome

    Egwene and Elanye...who i actually skim through alot on re reads...is some great interaction, really liking it

    the Seanchen war machine

    Elyas leading the hunt is really streamlining that arc perfectly...it would be wasteful having two master trackers...sorry Hurin

    the introduction of the game of houses

     

    the list is endless....

     

     

    i hope i havent just raised my hopes too high....but this is rwally where i was hoping this show would be.

     

  11. yeah happy with that...when i origianlly read the series all those years ago i had Angelina Jolie vibes, so i suppose i had this vision of an attractive but mature female, definately not a young beautiful 20 something...but a mature, drop dead gorgeous character...

     

    box ticked.

  12. just watched a rewatch of the series over the last few nights....

     

    anyone think maybe Perrin is attracted to Rand;

     

    1. challenges Rand to treat Eggy better which at first glance is some kind of hint that he likes Eggy....but...what if he were upset and Rands aloofness, based on his own feelings

    2. in that scene he clearly states that Laila was 'the only women i ever loved'

    3. later in same episode he confirms with Eggy that he loves Rand.... its the same episode which got me thinking, it could be bad writing, but he commits his love for Rand and denies his love for Eggy in two very close scenes. so it could be he is refering to something greater than a platonic love interest

     

    my original thought would be it would ruin the story a bit, but on reflection, if its done right, and his love for Faile is chanelled into his love for Rand, and it means one less character with one less side story (the recapture of Faile and the whole horn stuff at thge last book, it really could work if done with a sensitive nod to the original character 

     

    as in Perrin doesnt really need to change his character ARC significantly, we know he is driven by love and loyalty to one specific person....

  13. personally i have no idea how i miss so much to be honest...sometimes on a first read you get such a solid picture in your mind to what happened.

     

    these forums are an excellent reference, but yep...on my 5th or 6th read through and still the odd stuff jumps out off the page at me .....

     

    Dumai wells played out so much differently than i interpretted on my first read through i often wonder if i was reading an alternative version first time through🫢

  14. to be fair, i didnt criticise the show, i said i wanted it to 'stick to the books', which is a personal opinion.

     

    the post after mine was some long winded justification of why the show doesnt have to stay true to the books and wanting it to do so isnt based on 'fact' or some such.

     

    we could argue all day about whether the show should be remain loyal to the books or not, but you cant argue that i would like it to do so...that...my friend, is a 'fact'

     

    and if the poster would care to interperet my posts better they would see that whilst i am not a lover of going away from book lore, im still quite accepting of it

     

     

  15. the girls know hes alive....bond or no bond....they know, and he knows ...

     

    regarding Tam, theres no way Rand just wanders into the sunset and travels the world without putting Tam at ease.......theres 14 books of Rands growth i provide as evidence....

     

    i understand its not written in lore, but the lore had to end somewhere.

     

    Rand wont leave Tam in misery, if you think he will, just re read the books

  16. min in my mind was Rose Byrne

     

    having said that.....im happy to go with the show on this....

     

    things i loved

     

    eamons field

    Fain

    Rands casting, it took a while to grow on me, but hes more Rand to me than the Rand i had in my head all these years, really looking forward to see him slowly change from innocent to...well...the dragon...

    world building

    tar valon, despite its tackyness, im onboard

    aes sedai

    alana...i have amiddle aged crush....she hot.

     

    things i didnt

     

    the cleanliness of the sets just seemed not quite right

    one of my favorite periods in all of the books is mat and rand travelling and playing for supper whilst mat slowly turns, that was a massive loss to the show 

    Thom...i reckon the casting is perfect....like rand, better than the picture i had in my mind.....just follow the book lore....

    no baerlon

    loial....he would have been hard to get right to be fair, but seriously, WTF is that?

     

     

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