Even in history there was a lot of variation in weapons (swords), in a region. There were no cookie cutter assembly lines. And outlandish weapons were available.

It's easy to think evertything was homogenes in the past... but it seriously was not ?

11 minutes ago, Kudzu said:

Nope, it's gone again. Oh well.

 

On a positive note Al'Naito is thoroughly embedded in my brain. And I sing the Manetheren song all the time. This show definitely has great music.

Yep. Weep for Manetheren is now firmly on my internal playlist. Thanks, I have it stuck in my head again. ?

10 hours ago, JaimAybara said:

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Some really fun sword fights to watch are with Errol Flynn and Basil Rathbone. They were actually quite accomplished swordsmen. I think if anything I would blame the film techniques of the time as well as the wardrobe, but watching them fight was quite the show.

 

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Oh Errol Flynn was awesome! OMG. But ... I was equally entertained by the dance sequence of a simulated fight in The Pirate (Gene Kelly) who just dances around waving a sort of curved sword. Ridiculously. But omg, how well done.

Again, dancing, choreographed fighting: it's all visuals for me.

As for the Heron marked blade: sure that is coming in the next few episodes. It's too integral and too cool not to mention, but the time has not been right. I think if they had expositioned it earlier, they would have had to give away more of Tam's backstory too soon.

16 hours ago, DojoToad said:

Gender doesn't matter anymore, or haven't you been paying attention? ?

My pt would then make a great Moiraine ?

I also just became aware of one of my favourite actresses/comedians being cast: I am so looking forward to Meera Syal! Even if I don't know what she will be playing (Verin?), I am just thrilled to know she will be in it ?

I have hope now. ?

@CaddySedai The Enterprise theme is ... jarring. I mean, I don't mind the song so much. But it is not a good match to the show. Even Lower Decks has a better fitting theme tune (I am so starting to love that ...)

Also, when my guy and I hum a tune ... it always ends up in the TNG theme tune. There is always a hook in any tune to go full on with 'ta-tuhtuh-taah-tuhtuh-daah!'

Same goes for the superman theme, @AdamA ! That is so iconic!

I may have to play the intro a couple of times while working. Maybe it will stick. Maybe it will become iconing in its own right, because it is different, at least.

I never use the standard settings. Also, the settings are done by my guy. I have no say. But it all looks good on our screen. Nothing too oversaturated or dramatic.

Yes!! I have finally found something I am dismayed by ... I cannot remember or hum the theme tune!

How can they not have come up with something memorable to accompany the intro? Now I am left with having to fit the words 'wheel of time' to the GoT music in my head. And that is bad!

(I am joking, a bit, but yes: the music could have been a bit more memorable for me. I am kinda meh about it. But I am interested in hearing people's thoughs, so tell me, maybe I am just overreacting...)

37 minutes ago, fra85uk said:

Logain army fight was soooo bad

 

The glimpse of Thom/Fade duel was very well executed and left me wanting more

Well, that kinda proves my point. The Warder/Army fight was so early in the season, between two not-quite-up-to-scratch 'forces' so the encounter (it was not really a battle, right ...) was low key.

I do expect every encounter/fight/battle to be more exciting, because we will have more at stake and will be more invested in each one. That's it ?

Moiraine is ruthless. At least, I got that from the books too. She may seem all dainty and so on, but she is aware of her mission.

But yeah... harsh.

I'll look out for more of these unintended consequences. It is always interesting to keep in mind what some of the events mean for the 'extras'.  Kinda reminds me of those scenes in Austin Powers when they look at a henchman's family, or the party that was hosted for one of the killed henchmen. You just don't stop to think ...

@AdamA if I look at pics from the 70s ... yeah, people were normal-sized. Not skinny. I think we've been re-defining normal to be 'skinny'. But that's a different topic. I am still watching Blake's 7 and Cally is ... so ... thin.

Did you know btw, that salmon was once so common in The Netherlands that it was considered peasant food? Go figure. Good for fat and protein, salmon.

Time to be ignored ?

I think it shows that, as time has progressed, much knowledge and skill around channeling has been lost. The Aes Sedai we see now, no matter how effective and strong the seem, are not as powerful as the ones that could turn a battle around. For one, they have not needed to battle other channelers for a long time.

Do I think it takes too long? How can I tell? I have no comparisson in the show of other channelers. Yet.

Wow. Now I am picturing a very thin Samwell.

 ... does food in the tv series deserve its own topic yet? Or is it just me needing my afternoon snack?

My pt is not much taller than me, but he is stronger than my guy, who is 20cm+ taller than us. Appearances can be deceiving. (My trainer would have made a good Moiraine, heightwise, if not genderwise ...) One of his employees is taller and has big arms, but in arm wrestling my trainer would still beat him.

Metabolism is a funny thing though. And I really wonder if people in medievalesque times were that malnourished, as they grew a lot of food themselves. And they had a lot of healthy food available. And some people today are malnourished, but fat.

Do you know, @DaddyFinn that after S1 of GoT I was completely like 'Im never watching this shit again!'. And then I did anyway, because s2, 3, 4, 5 etc were pretty entertaining for my second favourite book series.

I am sure as jingle bells not going to give up on WoT before the battles actually begin to come in. We know we have so much to look forward to!

Also, I am certainly expecting more from WoT than what GoT ever gave us. I need it to be its own world, with its own standard. I am happy it is not trying to clone GoT.

(i feel so ignored ? )

I just keep sayijng: we are in s1, episode 5, if we had ANY major large scale battles now, that would be a bad sign. It would make future battles feel worthless and old and tired.

Wolverine is supposed to be short, but I can't imagine anyone but Hugh Jackman playing him.

Yes, as a shorter woman myself I would have loved to see myself represented by a short Moiraine. But meh, Pike can act and I believe she gets it. Even if she is tall. I think she is elegant and that her appearance masks her strong character.

FFS, she was a Bond girl.

Welcome!

Maybe that is why I am so invested in the tv series: there is a wait, but it is only 7 days and I can just about handle that after having to wait for years and years and years between books.

That probably also makes me nostalgic...

@grayavatar are you using Jon Snow's battle (battle of the bastards?) (which was awesomely choreographed) as an example of fake or real battles?

I do agree with you that it made you feel something, that is what it was designed to do. Also, by then we as audience had invested 6 seasons worth of feels. I hated Ramsey, totally uncoditionally, feeling that he was capable of anything. Mainly due to the actor, who I know is more of a nice guy (thankfully).

But Jon did run under a rain of arrows and fell of his horse, with no arrow sticking in him.

And then there were lots of horses riding back and forth across the screen. It hints at battle, pain and death, but it's filmed so hecticaly (and brilliantly) that it is your mind filling in the blanks. And if a show can do that, they really don't need to show a lot. Our minds are pretty powerful for special effects departments.

14 hours ago, AdamA said:

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Army on army, I'd settle for at least as good as Vikings, which mostly had pretty small armies but the combat was realistically portrayed. Nobody was superhuman, they didn't dodge a thousand arrows, guys dried from infected wounds, etc.

Yes, but this (WoT) is still fantasy and in many ways Vikings was a fantasy tale (but more along the lines that the characters thought of themselves as supernatural anyway: I mean, they claimed they were descended from gods. Boasted about that. But it was entertaining.)

Someone ( @AdamA ? ) also mentioned that most battles, especially one-on-many, suffers from the enemy coming at the hero one at a time. Yes: this is the only way you can depict a battle or fight on screen. Because the battle is there for storytelling purposes.

Same as sex scenes. I have seen no realistic sex scenes in tv series ? I may have seen one or two in films that are cute and accurate, and maybe none of those scenes actually thrilled an audience. But they are there for story telling and a means to transport the audience away.

Realistic and brutal battles are not fun viewing, I am 100% sure. Even if I have never seen an actual battle, I know enough to know that no one watches that for entertainment. If one does enjoy that, I would humbly suggest maybe think about why.

Henry Cavill is a joy to watch move about. It's not totally realistic but choreographed like a dance.

... ehm, which is what Lan calls his fighting, right? Dancing?

Anyway, I am just waiting for a clip that will showcase warder fighting or just Lan. I still don't think I've seen enouigh to go on. For me, personally. I like more input.

Cavill play fighting is not as entertaining as watching him put together a pc ? Awww, he is so cute when he nerds out.

OMG! What a coincidence that the French translation was also crap! (As is the Dutch)

Almost as if no effort had been made to find proper translators who understand fantasy etc...

How was Harry Potter translated in French? Better? Because in The Netherlands, that was decently done. And LotR had an actual literary translator put on it. Better days.

Welcome ?

*splutters* You are not allowed to call yourself old if you read Tolkien e.a. in the 80s. Okay? Unless you were 35 at the time. ... That could be true.

Welcome, to the place where we are all young at heart. I tried the grumpy old woman routine; it's not me.

*waves* Welcome! I hope you enjoy your time spend here. ... I should be working, instead I am lurking. That's the pull of the forum ?

I watched every episode once. So far. And I watched 20 minutes of ep 1 again. I'll be rewatching it in bits. O just dont have the time! Maybe between xmas and new years.

Book-Lan works in the books (and you could say the same for Book-Thom, who reads to me like a characature of a traveling entertainer, tbh.). For your mind to picture them as individuals they are starkly contrasted from other, similar, characters.

Tv just works differently. I think TV-Lan is fine as he is and we have not yet seen enough of TV-Lan to even compare him to the Book-Lan we got to know over 14 books! That just is not fair.

14 minutes ago, Mailman said:

I posted this in one of the other threads but it probably fits here more do you think Rafe is the right man to be helming a series of this size especially considering the difficulties raised in this thread.

 

Rafe does not exactly have a massive body of work behind him to helm a series of this size.

• 6 writing credits across 11 years consisting of 22 TV episodes and 1 short film(17min).
• 8 TV episodes as a story editor/assistant to writers and
• 35 TV episodes credited as a producer

Not exactly a stunning resume to helm a $10M a episode epic fantasy series.

It's not bad and it shows he is progressing in his career. Plus he wrote for agents of shield, so that can be good or bad. He was also producing then.

There happen to be a lot of people who storm right in to helming a big production with little experience (or so it seems).

If you watch Peter Jackson's first films ... braindead ... you might not suspect he would be able to pull of a formidable trilogy (and follow it up with a less amusing trilogy. Im not a fan of The Hobbit.).

I dont think it has anything to do with the rest of the topic, other than that you list some cold statistics. Again, I like numbers. But it never shows the whole story ?