DEMONOLOGY - GAME THREAD

Nolder · January 7, 2017

Heathen doesn't sound particularly townie to me...

5. This is a majority hammer game. If no majority is reached, the demons receive an additional nightkill.

Doesn't sound particularly wolfy to me.

Not sure what point you're making here.

Leelou · January 7, 2017

I don't see JC as scum here.

Leelou · January 7, 2017

Pre-deep dive observations has my not willing to lynch pile at:

David

Tress

JC

JiF

Zander

Tink

Looking deeper into everyone else after I get some sleep.

And where are Krak, Amega, Crushlove, and Pral?? Combined they only have like 25 posts.

Nynaeve · January 7, 2017

You're closer to generation...just saying...I'm interested...do you skype?

You have skype?!?!?!

</3 :/

Nynaeve · January 7, 2017

Current Vote Count:

John Snow (5) - AJ, dice, honeyBooBoo, Darthe, Hermes

Lenlo (3) - Tiinker, John Snow, Zander

Shad (2) - Leelou, NB

Leelou (1) - Shad

Kaylee (1) - Nolder

With 21 players, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline: January 7th, Saturday, 6 PM EST.

Nynaeve · January 7, 2017

Would appreciate confirmation that the counter is correct =)

DPR · January 7, 2017

Would appreciate confirmation that the counter is correct =)

Looks good to me. And if it goes off at exactly 6 pm EST, we'll know for sure!

DPR · January 7, 2017

WEATHER UPDATE:

It hit - we actually have snow and ice and it is brutal. There must be close to an inch of this stuff...

If you don't hear from me for over a week, send help.

Pray for us.

BooBoo · January 7, 2017

@1153 game's not going anywhere because

Zander 255 Shad_ 134 David Hermes 94 dicetosser1 89 Kaylee 84 Darthe 74 Tiinker 66 Andrej 65 Songstress 44 DreadPirateRoberts 36 Nynaeve 33 BooBoo 32 鲍勃不是我的名字 27 John Snow 27 Verbal32 25 Lenlo 25 Nolder 21 Leelou 12 Krakalakachkn 6 amegakure 5 Pralaya 3 The Crusher 2

BS

Most of the top posts are spam and replying to spam ad nasuem.

I'm not saying my post count couldn't be higher or I couldn't give more insightful posts, as could many, but the reason the game isn't going anywhere is because no one is willing to stick their neck out, vote someone, and debate it a little. Let alone actually build a train and put some pressure on someone.

You want to see some action? Let's build a train.

Unvote

Vote John Snow

I'll follow. I can smell some of what everyone is stepping when it comes to John. And numerous people are coming out saying they're not going to vote David so I feel like I'm wasting my time.

Unvote

Vote John Snow.

Lets do sumtin!

Why go to John Snow when you said besides David I pinged you the most JIF??!?!?!!?

I like you and don't want to have to kill you this soon. Jk - I was feeling the reads on Snow at the moment and he had momentum. With the game being this slow, figured it would be wise to get a train going.

BooBoo · January 7, 2017

Tons of catch up again but that hottie Kaylee does a lot of defending people but seems very hesitant to take a stance. Just an observation worth noting.

Kaylee · January 7, 2017

*snipped*

This is not a saving point btw so idk why you keep repeating it.

You had him as your bottom suspect so even without a vote it's pretty clear where your head was at.

I agree. Would like to know reads from Len now that he's had real time interaction.

I have, but he hasnt given any reasons for me being a wolf beyond his reaction to this catchup. Beyond that his sole reason was "Hes afk", when half the game is afk. Now I dont think I am misrepping him. I think what I said, with the quotes I have shown, perfectly support what I have said. Nowhere in there however did I ever say "Snow is a wolf". "Lets lynch Snow". "Vote Snow". All I did was say that it was wolfy and that I didnt like his handleing of Zander in the first half of the game. In response to that, he hops all over me tries to argue semantics and dissect every post I make. The entire time with, what seems to me but im clearly biased in this debate, as a predetermined notion that I am a wolf. Predetermined notions like that are wolfy imo.

Blue's fine. I mean villagers tunnel villagers too but it's generically fine. But red, if you want to talk semantics "wolfy" vs "a wolf" is about as petty as it gets mate. I'm reading this out of context from your actual argument with him but I would safely assume that any player ought to read your list as "Snow is the person I'm most comfortable lynching right now".

I'm not sure how relevant that is to your argument with him? but I guess my thinking is if Snow's a villager trying to figure out which of the people voting him is a wolf he has grounds to suspect you.

Still want to know what his reason for wanting to lynch you prior to your reads list was though.

Green: That's how the list came across to me as well. What I'm now curious is where he is at now reads wise. Is anyone else on his radar? Why or why not?

*snipped*

John Snow.

He's pretty obviously the default lynch at this point unless something happens to shake shit up, and we can't CFD or have competing trains come EoD.

I think if we come together and find someone scummy or at least in everyone's null pile then it's plausible. I haven't voted him yet and will get into that at the bottom of this post.

I read the back and forth between Snow and Lenlo this evening and am not entirely sure what to think about it. I don't necessarily think it's a hard bus party, but both of them have struck me as questionable.

Maybe we should just lynch Nolder after all.

I will be around a lot tomorrow before deadline, housework be damned. Would really like Crusher, Ironeyes, Pral, Krak and Amega to put some more thoughts out there so I can see where they're coming from.

Agree with the bold.

Looking at Snow's ISO I see nothing obvious that indicates why/when he started scum reading Lenlo

There's just a one-liner that says Snow is putting Lenlo into his WTL

There's some people who are going to pretty much afk D1 no matter what, and there's not a lot to be done about it. Lenlo's not one of those people.

The games we've been town together, my head's been in pretty much the same place as his. He's one of the few player I feel like I can confidently read.

So I decided to pressure his slot. Sure, I could've said pressure megacure for being afk, but I've never played with him. I felt like pressuring lenlo into content would help me resolve his slot.

Ok I can see that. Snow: What are your current thoughts on possible scum and why?

Ive been sitting on page 67 for like... 4 hours just to lazy to actually finish it. Ive got a pretty good idea of the thread though.

Please share with us your thoughts then. Mainly who do you think we should lynch today and why? Is Snow still your bottom and number 1 or is it now someone else?

Alright Zander, we are talking, thats good.

The pushing or not pushing is a matter of opinion. No fixing that and thus theres no way your going to be able to reconcile my suss of Snow.

The catch up post was for the first 40 pages, most of which was fluff and a slog to read through with alot of different people. So with those in mind, of course its not going to be stupid in depth.

There are alot of nulls because theres alot of people with less than 10 posts in this game. Should they be anything other than nulls? I dont see why that ones a problem. You call the list easy to throw together, other people say the list has to many non-nulls/has more reads than they expected. It cant be both.

Are you still sus of Snow?

Alright Zander, we are talking, thats good.

The pushing or not pushing is a matter of opinion. No fixing that and thus theres no way your going to be able to reconcile my suss of Snow.

The catch up post was for the first 40 pages, most of which was fluff and a slog to read through with alot of different people. So with those in mind, of course its not going to be stupid in depth.

There are alot of nulls because theres alot of people with less than 10 posts in this game. Should they be anything other than nulls? I dont see why that ones a problem. You call the list easy to throw together, other people say the list has to many non-nulls/has more reads than they expected. It cant be both.

I agree with its a matter of opinion my issue is I think that you manufacutred a reason so to speak because I personally dont see any way what John said could be taken as an actual push.

I get that and Im not saying that I expected something major or epic just more. Like I expect Town!Len to comment more or have more to share et.

Reads list straight read like making one for the sake of making one imo.

My read/vote of you isnt locked in or set in stone man. If youre a Villager youve got time to show me. This is just where my heads at currently.

I like this post from Zander. If Len doesn't reveal more of his thoughts, since he's said he's got a feel for the thread now, then my vote is going there. In fact will likely vote there now and can switch if I feel someone else is more likely scum. With the argument that Snow/Len had Snow comes out looking better to me. Snow's train has had no resistance. Those combined have me looking more at Len. (Doesn't mean Snow couldn't be scum with him teammates either not voting or on another train, but it did make me hesitate enough not to vote yesterday).

K, i've halfway coherently caught up and I am confident in there being a wolf beyween Z, shad and AJ. Really doubt its Z tbh. Thinking Verbs one. JS could be, or notbob, and maybe Leelou but not if verb/notbob are I don't think.

That's what I've got so far in terms of wolf reads. bed time

What makes you think theres a WOlf in me/shad/aj?

If you dont think its me who is it more likely and why?

Could you give some reasons for any of these?

Also with the bold.

Why is that?

And also I find it a tad ironic you make a associative read like that when you said to JiF you like it more because he was sussing me for doing it fwiw.

This echos what I was thinking when I read that post from Darthe.

*snipped*

I didn't see you ask, sorry.

I voted John to get a bigger train going.

Kaylee I remembered earlier saying she wasn't voting because she didn't have a good read on anyone or something like that and I thought ok well it's been awhile and she should have a better idea by now or she might be stalling so maybe a vote or two will nudge her into a decision.

I was going to vote yesterday, but hesitated because I was going to vote Snow. The hesitation came when I realized his train had no resistance to it. Nobody, except now Len, has stood out enough for me to get a wolf read on them. I will vote today though.

Tons of catch up again but that hottie Kaylee does a lot of defending people but seems very hesitant to take a stance. Just an observation worth noting.

I defend people when I feel they're being misrepped. I hate when it's done to me so if things can get cleared up then I try to help do that. I've explained more than once why I've been hesitant to take a stance before now.

Copied this from above to make sure it doesn't get missed: If Len doesn't reveal more of his thoughts, since he's said he's got a feel for the thread now, then my vote is going there. In fact will likely vote there now and can switch if I feel someone else is more likely scum. With the argument that Snow/Len had Snow comes out looking better to me. Snow's train has had no resistance. Those combined have me looking more at Len. (Doesn't mean Snow couldn't be scum with him teammates either not voting or on another train, but it did make me hesitate enough not to vote yesterday).

With my thoughts out there and caught up I'll Vote Len

Kaylee · January 7, 2017

FYI I'll be afk for a few hours. Will be back around 1pm my time. (3.5 hours from now)

Nolder · January 7, 2017

@Kaylee

I was going to vote yesterday, but hesitated because I was going to vote Snow. The hesitation came when I realized his train had no resistance to it. Nobody, except now Len, has stood out enough for me to get a wolf read on them. I will vote today though.

Mmmm I see. Well that's either a lie or just an unlucky coincidence that the person you were going to vote had a quick train build on them I guess. If you thought you had good reason to vote him though I'm not very sure why it would matter. Maybe you didn't have that good a reason though, I don't know.

Either way I'll take it for what it is. For now.

Unvote

Kaylee · January 7, 2017

I said I was vote him over David, so no not a good reason.

Nolder · January 7, 2017

I don't really see why Lenlo has a train on him but I think two competing trains is the way to go here.

Vote Lenlo

Kaylee · January 7, 2017

Ok going to be at shabbat. Will get online again when I'm done.

Lenlo · January 7, 2017

On phone atm. To save some time on this farce of a train, I am a member of THE ORDER. I am Town. Theres a reason I was responding to all of Zanders "I order this" and "Thats an order" comments, cause I thought he was hinting he was one to.

Dunno who other team members are. If we find each other we get a QT together and basically become masons. Also got a 2x weapons investigate, so submit name and get back whether or not they have a weapon. Dunno what that means. Probably a "Does this person have a kill" "Y/N". Most likely wont give anything about them being town or not.

This is why I was believing Davids claim because I wouldnt be surprised if there was more than one kind of set like this.

Back to work. This entire train is built off "Snow came out better in an argument so Len must be a wolf" and "Counter trains!"

Darthe · January 7, 2017

I don't have too badger you guys to read me if you have to question my posts.

Verb I posted my rationale on earlier, when he made that post I tore apart. Him and leelou arent interacting remotely the same as that game where I lynched dice at lylo and they were wolves together, ergo I dont think they are together. That said, I find both of them wolfy (leelous been hashed over as well) so I bet one of them is a wolf, and id honestly lean verb right now for his opportunism. The notbob bit was just because I dont think those three have talked at all, and they would have by now. They know each other too well not to.

As for z shad aj my moneys on AJ, but I know its just damn unlikely that more than one of them is a wolf considering their activity, probability, etc. Beyond that, my read really isnt an associative one its just where I threw three names of people im working on together to see what theyd say. So far, its about par for what I expected.

Lenlo · January 7, 2017

Also, who thinks the "Dont draw symbols in your own blood or call demons" rule needs to be tested? Like Hoofs Cthulu game? Cause im game to try. That crap was funny.

Darthe · January 7, 2017

I don't really see why Lenlo has a train on him but I think two competing trains is the way to go here.

Vote Lenlo

Dont like the leelou wagon?

Darthe · January 7, 2017

Also, who thinks the "Dont draw symbols in your own blood or call demons" rule needs to be tested? Like Hoofs Cthulu game? Cause im game to try. That crap was funny.

Could be nothing, could be yuge. Let's find out tomorrow?

Darthe · January 7, 2017

On phone atm. To save some time on this farce of a train, I am a member of THE ORDER. I am Town. Theres a reason I was responding to all of Zanders "I order this" and "Thats an order" comments, cause I thought he was hinting he was one to.

Dunno who other team members are. If we find each other we get a QT together and basically become masons. Also got a 2x weapons investigate, so submit name and get back whether or not they have a weapon. Dunno what that means. Probably a "Does this person have a kill" "Y/N". Most likely wont give anything about them being town or not.

This is why I was believing Davids claim because I wouldnt be surprised if there was more than one kind of set like this.

Back to work. This entire train is built off "Snow came out better in an argument so Len must be a wolf" and "Counter trains!"

I thought shad posted this til just now :/ new avatars can bite me.

Kk, I dont see a reason to not believe you as your posts overall have been fine.

Leelou · January 7, 2017

I don't have too badger you guys to read me if you have to question my posts.

Verb I posted my rationale on earlier, when he made that post I tore apart. Him and leelou arent interacting remotely the same as that game where I lynched dice at lylo and they were wolves together, ergo I dont think they are together. That said, I find both of them wolfy (leelous been hashed over as well) so I bet one of them is a wolf, and id honestly lean verb right now for his opportunism. The notbob bit was just because I dont think those three have talked at all, and they would have by now. They know each other too well not to.

As for z shad aj my moneys on AJ, but I know its just damn unlikely that more than one of them is a wolf considering their activity, probability, etc. Beyond that, my read really isnt an associative one its just where I threw three names of people im working on together to see what theyd say. So far, its about par for what I expected.

I have been talking to JC...

Verb, not really game stuff. I haven't had time to deal with him.

Tiinker · January 7, 2017

I don't really see why Lenlo has a train on him but I think two competing trains is the way to go here.

Vote Lenlo

Dont like the leelou wagon?

I don't mind it

Leelou · January 7, 2017

WEATHER UPDATE:

It hit - we actually have snow and ice and it is brutal. There must be close to an inch of this stuff...

If you don't hear from me for over a week, send help.

Pray for us.

I think we may have already surpassed your snow total.

Best of luck to you!

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