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BFG · October 31, 2016

Would guess the only shot at a wolf you have in there is Kat

One of the things that Cory does as scum is to put people/town down and force them to accept that they are making a mistake. It usually deters people because they don't want to end up wrong.

This are some of the posts from the Alt game that I was talking about (He was playing as Sili). Look how close they are to this game. Do go through that game to see scum Cory. And no, he wasn't exactly trolling till late in the game.

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=&sid=2c68309e05a418eb11b2a2194745909a&search_author=Sili_mafia&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=1&cType=topic&cId=96126&search_content=both&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=1&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BnoPreview%5D=1&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpCount%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpViews%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsearchInKey%5D=&search_term=&search_app=forums&st=75

i hve little patience for stupid questions.

im ignoring zander. considering the blatancy of it all there is nothing more annoying than someone who is wrong and he doesnt deserve to wield the zander title for acting the way he does.

my reads are strong enough to warrant consideration and ive been reading every post and considering every possible angle i can, but so many players have put a ton of effort into making me a joke bc of i made some jokes about who i randed. what did you expect when you signed up for the game.

Zander you should rly think before you post. Or think at all.

it's probably just darthe csarmi. if so my reads were magnificent and you all should be ashamed for doubting me ever.

ignore the mass claim thing, that's just lazy play and im better than that and were better than that. let's just lynch the wolves instead.

im trying not to get distracted by zander. eveyr post he makes annoys me.

i stopped emulating sili about 20 posts into my filter. have you actually read anything?

like literally anything?

if thats how you make reads i dont know what to tell you.

youve probably been fooled by some pretty bad wolves who "dumbtold" enough to get on your good side.

[v]Sili I've played this half claim BS myself, I refuse to let someone else get away with it.

The way your talking is as if you only care about stopping us lynching you, not winning the game.

get away from me.

Pral, have you read Spirited Away?

Pral you are incorrect on your assumptions of cory. Regardless of the one game you played with that he was scum and did this, I have played 2 games with him where he did this and both times he was town. If anything I think I see cory's reactions in this game as town.

Honestly I don't see Cory putting in the kind of effort he did D1 as scum. Trying to solve. Switching votes. trying to talk things out. I just don't see him being scum. I will also never vote for Nyn this game. never. If she's wolf then good game. (sorry nyn i know I said pre-game i'd lynch you but you're never a wolf this game)

This leaves a short list.

3. Lizabeth - i don't know. The other game I have played with her I thought she was slightly scummy the whole game and she was town.

4. Csarmi - don't know what to expect. Never played with before. All of ya'll seem to like his EoD but to me it's like he came in just in time to stir the pot and create confusion.

5. Prallia (Pralaya/Hallia) - eh. they haven't posted enough for anything so i'm not sure where to put them. Pral always thinks i'm scummy :rolleyes:

I usually think he's scummy because normally as inactive as I am I have many more posts than him. I hate his case on Cory. I think it's crazy and very well could be scum trying to push someone he knows could be a danger to him and Hallia when she starts posting. Which brings me to Hallia. I would have thought that she would have posted SOME at night. But she hasn't. The last time Pral had a partner that pretty much had radio silence (granted with a good excuse) he ran that game. I would remember. I was the partner. And he's one heck of a wolf. I'd like to hear more from him with better reasoning than ONE game maybe a year ago.

6. BFG - I'm not sure what to think of BFG. I almost feel like she knows too much. Her read on me early game... I don't know where she got it from but I know it's right.

7. Sooh - I'm fixin to do an ISO of. She's been fairly active in the game. But I think that Cory has had some valid points on her.

So right now if i had to choose 3 i'd probably go Csarmi, Prallia, Sooh, in no particular order. But i'm about to ISO all three of those and see what I come up with. shouldn't take me long with the first two anyway.

Curious as to how serious your read on me is? And what's your actual read on Liz? And were you in Overwatch?

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

i've been down so long it look like up to me

they look up to me

i got fake people showin' fake love to me

straight up to my face

Pralaya · October 31, 2016

Pral you are incorrect on your assumptions of cory. Regardless of the one game you played with that he was scum and did this, I have played 2 games with him where he did this and both times he was town. If anything I think I see cory's reactions in this game as town.

Do you have any scum game of Cory? You can see the difference between his town games and his scum games. Or you can check the game i linked

Honestly I don't see Cory putting in the kind of effort he did D1 as scum. Trying to solve. Switching votes. trying to talk things out. I just don't see him being scum.

He does all that as scum too. See the example of his scum game. He has a lot of posts but the thing to notice is his enthusiasm while doing so.

BFG · October 31, 2016

Would guess the only shot at a wolf you have in there is Kat

One of the things that Cory does as scum is to put people/town down and force them to accept that they are making a mistake. It usually deters people because they don't want to end up wrong.

This are some of the posts from the Alt game that I was talking about (He was playing as Sili). Look how close they are to this game. Do go through that game to see scum Cory. And no, he wasn't exactly trolling till late in the game.

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=&sid=2c68309e05a418eb11b2a2194745909a&search_author=Sili_mafia&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=1&cType=topic&cId=96126&search_content=both&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=1&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BnoPreview%5D=1&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpCount%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpViews%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsearchInKey%5D=&search_term=&search_app=forums&st=75

i hve little patience for stupid questions.

im ignoring zander. considering the blatancy of it all there is nothing more annoying than someone who is wrong and he doesnt deserve to wield the zander title for acting the way he does.

my reads are strong enough to warrant consideration and ive been reading every post and considering every possible angle i can, but so many players have put a ton of effort into making me a joke bc of i made some jokes about who i randed. what did you expect when you signed up for the game.

Zander you should rly think before you post. Or think at all.

it's probably just darthe csarmi. if so my reads were magnificent and you all should be ashamed for doubting me ever.

ignore the mass claim thing, that's just lazy play and im better than that and were better than that. let's just lynch the wolves instead.

im trying not to get distracted by zander. eveyr post he makes annoys me.

i stopped emulating sili about 20 posts into my filter. have you actually read anything?

like literally anything?

if thats how you make reads i dont know what to tell you.

youve probably been fooled by some pretty bad wolves who "dumbtold" enough to get on your good side.

[v]Sili I've played this half claim BS myself, I refuse to let someone else get away with it.

The way your talking is as if you only care about stopping us lynching you, not winning the game.

get away from me.

Pral, have you read Spirited Away?

Pral you are incorrect on your assumptions of cory. Regardless of the one game you played with that he was scum and did this, I have played 2 games with him where he did this and both times he was town. If anything I think I see cory's reactions in this game as town.

Honestly I don't see Cory putting in the kind of effort he did D1 as scum. Trying to solve. Switching votes. trying to talk things out. I just don't see him being scum. I will also never vote for Nyn this game. never. If she's wolf then good game. (sorry nyn i know I said pre-game i'd lynch you but you're never a wolf this game)

This leaves a short list.

3. Lizabeth - i don't know. The other game I have played with her I thought she was slightly scummy the whole game and she was town.

4. Csarmi - don't know what to expect. Never played with before. All of ya'll seem to like his EoD but to me it's like he came in just in time to stir the pot and create confusion.

5. Prallia (Pralaya/Hallia) - eh. they haven't posted enough for anything so i'm not sure where to put them. Pral always thinks i'm scummy I usually think he's scummy because normally as inactive as I am I have many more posts than him. I hate his case on Cory. I think it's crazy and very well could be scum trying to push someone he knows could be a danger to him and Hallia when she starts posting. Which brings me to Hallia. I would have thought that she would have posted SOME at night. But she hasn't. The last time Pral had a partner that pretty much had radio silence (granted with a good excuse) he ran that game. I would remember. I was the partner. And he's one heck of a wolf. I'd like to hear more from him with better reasoning than ONE game maybe a year ago.

6. BFG - I'm not sure what to think of BFG. I almost feel like she knows too much. Her read on me early game... I don't know where she got it from but I know it's right.

7. Sooh - I'm fixin to do an ISO of. She's been fairly active in the game. But I think that Cory has had some valid points on her.

So right now if i had to choose 3 i'd probably go Csarmi, Prallia, Sooh, in no particular order. But i'm about to ISO all three of those and see what I come up with. shouldn't take me long with the first two anyway.

Curious as to how serious your read on me is? And what's your actual read on Liz? And were you in Overwatch?

Katiora · October 31, 2016

This leaves a short list.

3. Lizabeth - i don't know. The other game I have played with her I thought she was slightly scummy the whole game and she was town.

4. Csarmi - don't know what to expect. Never played with before. All of ya'll seem to like his EoD but to me it's like he came in just in time to stir the pot and create confusion.

5. Prallia (Pralaya/Hallia) - eh. they haven't posted enough for anything so i'm not sure where to put them. Pral always thinks i'm scummy I usually think he's scummy because normally as inactive as I am I have many more posts than him. I hate his case on Cory. I think it's crazy and very well could be scum trying to push someone he knows could be a danger to him and Hallia when she starts posting. Which brings me to Hallia. I would have thought that she would have posted SOME at night. But she hasn't. The last time Pral had a partner that pretty much had radio silence (granted with a good excuse) he ran that game. I would remember. I was the partner. And he's one heck of a wolf. I'd like to hear more from him with better reasoning than ONE game maybe a year ago.

6. BFG - I'm not sure what to think of BFG. I almost feel like she knows too much. Her read on me early game... I don't know where she got it from but I know it's right.

7. Sooh - I'm fixin to do an ISO of. She's been fairly active in the game. But I think that Cory has had some valid points on her.

So right now if i had to choose 3 i'd probably go Csarmi, Prallia, Sooh, in no particular order. But i'm about to ISO all three of those and see what I come up with. shouldn't take me long with the first two anyway.

Can you clarify about Liz. You're talking about what she's done in a previous game... but not in this one. Are you saying she's pinging you here? if so can you expand?

Anything about Hallia not being around Is moot in my eyes. Is there anything other than his read on Cory that bothers you about Pral/Hallia slot?

What's exactly giving you pause about BFG? I can sort of get your cautioning early on but we're deep enough into the game now and BFG's involvement has not diminished. She's been hands on the entire time. And If I recall, your last reads post before weekend hit was that you had BFG, me and Ironeyes as town. What has BFG done since that has pushed her back down to dunno territory?

Looking forward to hear your thoughts after those ISOs.

With Liz.... I meant that as, the last time I played with her I thought her play was slightly scummy, and I find it slightly scummy this game but I think it's just the way she pushes. I"m not sure that she's actually scummy. Does that make sense? In other words i'm not sure how to read liz. She comes off as scummy to me but it could just very well be the way she plays.

Really with Pral the only thing he's done that stands out to me IS his push on Cory which I think is ridiculous. It doesn't make him scum, he could jsut be wrong but I think it's a scummy look with nothing else to go on.

With BFG I think i'm mostly tinfoiling. I don't understand how she had me as town yesterday with the info i left. It seems like a bit of TMI unless she saw something which she thought was a "tell" of some sort that i don't understand. I mean she's right... but i don't know how to take that. And I did say before the weekend that if i had to choose 3 towns it would be BFG, Ironeyes, and I think you? dang if i can remember. it was a sucky weekend.

Fixin to do my ISO of Sooh if I have time. I'm having to leave work early today for halloween festivities so... hopefully i won't have any interruptions.

Katiora · October 31, 2016

Would guess the only shot at a wolf you have in there is Kat

One of the things that Cory does as scum is to put people/town down and force them to accept that they are making a mistake. It usually deters people because they don't want to end up wrong.

This are some of the posts from the Alt game that I was talking about (He was playing as Sili). Look how close they are to this game. Do go through that game to see scum Cory. And no, he wasn't exactly trolling till late in the game.

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=&sid=2c68309e05a418eb11b2a2194745909a&search_author=Sili_mafia&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=1&cType=topic&cId=96126&search_content=both&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=1&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BnoPreview%5D=1&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpCount%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpViews%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsearchInKey%5D=&search_term=&search_app=forums&st=75

i hve little patience for stupid questions.

im ignoring zander. considering the blatancy of it all there is nothing more annoying than someone who is wrong and he doesnt deserve to wield the zander title for acting the way he does.

my reads are strong enough to warrant consideration and ive been reading every post and considering every possible angle i can, but so many players have put a ton of effort into making me a joke bc of i made some jokes about who i randed. what did you expect when you signed up for the game.

Zander you should rly think before you post. Or think at all.

it's probably just darthe csarmi. if so my reads were magnificent and you all should be ashamed for doubting me ever.

ignore the mass claim thing, that's just lazy play and im better than that and were better than that. let's just lynch the wolves instead.

im trying not to get distracted by zander. eveyr post he makes annoys me.

i stopped emulating sili about 20 posts into my filter. have you actually read anything?

like literally anything?

if thats how you make reads i dont know what to tell you.

youve probably been fooled by some pretty bad wolves who "dumbtold" enough to get on your good side.

[v]Sili I've played this half claim BS myself, I refuse to let someone else get away with it.

The way your talking is as if you only care about stopping us lynching you, not winning the game.

get away from me.

Pral, have you read Spirited Away?

Pral you are incorrect on your assumptions of cory. Regardless of the one game you played with that he was scum and did this, I have played 2 games with him where he did this and both times he was town. If anything I think I see cory's reactions in this game as town.

Honestly I don't see Cory putting in the kind of effort he did D1 as scum. Trying to solve. Switching votes. trying to talk things out. I just don't see him being scum. I will also never vote for Nyn this game. never. If she's wolf then good game. (sorry nyn i know I said pre-game i'd lynch you but you're never a wolf this game)

This leaves a short list.

3. Lizabeth - i don't know. The other game I have played with her I thought she was slightly scummy the whole game and she was town.

4. Csarmi - don't know what to expect. Never played with before. All of ya'll seem to like his EoD but to me it's like he came in just in time to stir the pot and create confusion.

5. Prallia (Pralaya/Hallia) - eh. they haven't posted enough for anything so i'm not sure where to put them. Pral always thinks i'm scummy I usually think he's scummy because normally as inactive as I am I have many more posts than him. I hate his case on Cory. I think it's crazy and very well could be scum trying to push someone he knows could be a danger to him and Hallia when she starts posting. Which brings me to Hallia. I would have thought that she would have posted SOME at night. But she hasn't. The last time Pral had a partner that pretty much had radio silence (granted with a good excuse) he ran that game. I would remember. I was the partner. And he's one heck of a wolf. I'd like to hear more from him with better reasoning than ONE game maybe a year ago.
6. BFG - I'm not sure what to think of BFG. I almost feel like she knows too much. Her read on me early game... I don't know where she got it from but I know it's right.

7. Sooh - I'm fixin to do an ISO of. She's been fairly active in the game. But I think that Cory has had some valid points on her.

So right now if i had to choose 3 i'd probably go Csarmi, Prallia, Sooh, in no particular order. But i'm about to ISO all three of those and see what I come up with. shouldn't take me long with the first two anyway.

Curious as to how serious your read on me is? And what's your actual read on Liz? And were you in Overwatch?

I was in overwatch and mislynched over the weekend when i wasn't here :|

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

Pral stop wolfsiding

Katiora · October 31, 2016

Pral you are incorrect on your assumptions of cory. Regardless of the one game you played with that he was scum and did this, I have played 2 games with him where he did this and both times he was town. If anything I think I see cory's reactions in this game as town.

Do you have any scum game of Cory? You can see the difference between his town games and his scum games. Or you can check the game i linked

Honestly I don't see Cory putting in the kind of effort he did D1 as scum. Trying to solve. Switching votes. trying to talk things out. I just don't see him being scum.

He does all that as scum too. See the example of his scum game. He has a lot of posts but the thing to notice is his enthusiasm while doing so.

I don't... my biggest point is that everything that you have pointed out I have seen TOWN!Cory do. So at most it's a moot point and not a tell either way.

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

I WOULD LIKE TO LYNCH SOOH TODAY

If anyone has a legit disagreement with this, please LMK immediately

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

PRAL IS YOUR READ ON SOOH CONDITIONAL TO YOUR READ ON ME OR IS IT BECAUSE YOU THINK SHE'S A VILLAGER RE: HER CONTENT

pls answer

No, I mentioned a bit earlier why I read sooh town. Especially because of her progression on Ironeyes and Darthe on D1.

Her read on Ironeyes wolf ---> villager post claim

Or her read on Darthe villager ---> wolf when Darthe became a wagon?

What was villagery about those progressions Pral

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

Please explain to me how > pushing someone > having them claim PR > backing off saying you don't want to lynch an uncc'd PR is something only a villager can do

Please explain how Sooh reversing her read on Darthe after Ironeyes claimed and the wagons became pretty much Laine (who I was fighting as a wagon the entire day) and Darthe / Sooh was something she would only do as a villager

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

Hey Pral instead of baselessly throwing the game off a cliff with your hero read you stay and fricking talk to me for a few minutes and hash this out

It's clear I'm not being lynched today so what's the harm in at least hearing me out

BFG · October 31, 2016

I have a feeling this is just going to be a case of Lol!BFG reads :(

BFG · October 31, 2016

Too many urkels

It feels too soon to have any real feelings about people in the thread, but I think already BFG is posting enough to possibly be town.

Does anyone remember my big rant in Spirited Away as to one of the reasons I wanted to lynch BFG (despite, against, immense pushback from the thread, SHOCKING SURPRISE) being that the way she was making reads was in line with what she is supposed to think as opposed to what she actually thinks - my example being something like a post she made where she said "I think Sili is town because his aggressiveness is usually a sign of his village game" or something like that

Sooh's read on BFG is the same sort of deal - Sooh doesn't read BFG's posts and think they are [villagery], just comments that BFG has reached the "volume count" where BFG is typically a villager

Bloody yo-yo

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

You can say whatever you want about my play - I'm loud and annoying and direct and egotistical and I cause friction and player issues etc. - but I have proven time and time again that I am reasonable when approached like a human and generally try my best to keep my team in the game so at least TALK to me

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

Bloody yo-yo

?

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

BFG what's on your mind

csarmi · October 31, 2016

Please explain to me how > pushing someone > having them claim PR > backing off saying you don't want to lynch an uncc'd PR is something only a villager can do

Please explain how Sooh reversing her read on Darthe after Ironeyes claimed and the wagons became pretty much Laine (who I was fighting as a wagon the entire day) and Darthe / Sooh was something she would only do as a villager

She reversed her read before Ironeyes claimed.

BFG · October 31, 2016

Bloody yo-yo
?

"urkel" posts make me 'nervous', the next makes me feel ~better again

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

She does NOT give a read on Ironeyes alignment the entire day so I have no idea what you are talking about

She voted Ironeyes because of [unexplainable reasons] re: Darthe, then unvotes when Ironeyes claims

Stop making things up

csarmi · October 31, 2016

What does bother me however is that after the Ironeyes claim she goes after saying how Darthe knew Ironeyes was a villager. Well how did she know? TMI?

BFG · October 31, 2016

BFG what's on your mind

I think a lot of my Day 1 reads may be wrong

Don't sweat it, I'll get there

Cory Caboose · October 31, 2016

Bloody yo-yo
?

"urkel" posts make me 'nervous', the next makes me feel ~better again

Don't do me like that

Nynaeve · October 31, 2016

@Kat Can you explain your read on me?

BFG · October 31, 2016

Bloody yo-yo
?

"urkel" posts make me 'nervous', the next makes me feel ~better again

Don't do me like that

You'll never stop me tinfoiling :(

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