Grim Frostbitten Scumlust -- MAFIA WINS

[dicetosser1]

 

 

So, Dice, 

 

NotBob

Graendal

Lenlo

 

Pralaya

 

These are the guys below the line. 

 

Out of them, who do you think are most likely scum?

 

its not wifi

 

it doesnt smell like a NB kill

 

if that was a lenlo kill it was suicidal hence my question.

 

 

actually   if its to SETUP len THEN it might smell like NB.

 

 

If scum I would have NK'd you...Corny were the most active...not sure it clears and convicts Lenlo.  If you won't lynch WiFi, and I don't agree with that logic, how about Hallia or Crusher?  At least one scum most likely avoided any blood on their hands.    

 

 

I think halli is town   crusher is a possibility if only cause  i have no reason NOT to.

[dicetosser1]

@Darthe   tell me how often do i call you names as any alignment? Cause I dont think I do.

 

You were frustrating me.

[Darthe]

@Darthe   tell me how often do i call you names as any alignment? Cause I dont think I do.

 

You were frustrating me.

Weak excuse from a wolf, you got frustrated by the exact thing you profess to be doing this game.  

[alannalynn]

People been too quiet today y'all need to get in here

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Lenlo (1): Alanna

Dice (1): Darthe

 

Not Voting: Hallia, Pralaya, Crusher, Katiora, Lenlo, GF, NotBob, Sooh, Dice

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

[Shad_]

[Wildfire Sedai]

1. Darthe -- null -  slightly scummy - D1 starts by saying he town read lenlo, joke posts, then goes to say crush is town pick of the day, back and forth with cory, makes a very "in your face" imo post to cory, tells hallia he has a mostly positive vibe from her, him and cory go at it again, responds to pralaya about one of sooh's posts, wants to talk to hallia about pralaya, makes comment about trolling alanna and asks tiink about sooh/pral situation, says he caught up and votes dice and talks about suss len, gives a read list, then he describes pral's wolf/town games and says how town pral is, talks about tiink and len trains and possibility of a dice one, talks about notbob posts as drivel and that tiink is town, votes len, doesn't know what he'll do if lenlo flips town, another back and forth with cory, talks about 1 of kat's posts as being apologetic, doesn't want to cfd her, another convo with cory, GGWP (whatever that means) D2 wants to lynch me, asks if dice is on, says not to give me any special treatment, asks about dice and lenlo reads, asks notbob if he thinks hallia is a wolf this game, agrees with hallia's reads, questions my read on him, talks about dice stirring up the pot again, votes dice, says town:dice never name calls, asks len where are the wolves, present aorn.  The reason why I think he is slightly scummy is because he flip/flopped his town reads early on, kept on digging at cory, and how he made fun of people.

 

2. Tiinker - Famine, Vanilla Town - Lynched D1

3. Hallia - null - slight townie - D1 joke posts, says crusher sounds good, not impressed with alanna's tone at catch up, sooh feels transparent, doesn't think kat would post who is on as scum, crusher feels "villagery", defends kat, gives her space, a couple of joke posts (mean green jelly bean)??, takes alanna to task about complaining about people saying that alanna doesn't like her role, feels ok about darthe, some hot posts, caught soohs hint on peeking tiink, wishes notbob were here, pral is town, sorted out that she didn't town read tiink and explained the "reply after a minute" issue, would vote GF, voted tiink, feeling better about tiinks posts, unvotes, TWL should have voted lenlo not just unvoted, asks about the move to lenlo D2 sarcastic reply to corny nk, Doesn't think GF would act that way with a team, says crusher's fading a bit, giving me botd, love to hear more from lenlo, confirms that dice is town, talks about lenlo and his absence, present aorn.  The reason I think she is slightly townie is because she stays with her reads, only changes them based on evidence ITT, and explains herself when she is questioned.

 

4. Alanna - null 

5. Pralaya - null 

5. Crusher - null

6. Katiora - null

 

7. Lenlo - null - slightly townie - D1 joke post, votes shad, then darthe, feel obliged to unvote darthe but never does, votes alanna, says alanna's vote was to get the game moving not a real vote, wtl pral and possibly notbob, just questioning the low posters so far, responds to alanna's "blatant lie" post, talks to cory about cory/darthe argument, moves hallia and cory up in reads and alanna down, Pral moves up, GF confuses him, Darthe slightly town/null, crusher moved down, dice fine, sooh/alanna connection, notbob nonexistant, not feeling alanna's list, wtl tiink, nb, or crush, talks about being in peoples wtl with no work shown esp tiink, votes tiink, D2 answers alanna's questions with alacrity about why he backed off his vote from her (it was a joke vote to get the conversation started), gonna stand by his alanna, crusher/me and another, present aorn. Yes I CHANGED my mind.  I believe lenlo to be slightly townie because he puts himself out there to get the day started, moves his reads with the flow of the game, and answers questions put to him.

 

8. Corny (Cory + Nyn) - Fenriz, Vanilla Town - Killed N1

9.  Wifi - TOWN QUEENIE

10. NotBob - null 

11. Sooh - null - slight townie

12. Dice - null - slight townie

 

 

DISCLAIMER:  these are my SECOND reads and they WILL CHANGE heck they may have already changed cause its taken me a while to do them.  

[dicetosser1]

 

@Darthe   tell me how often do i call you names as any alignment? Cause I dont think I do.

 

You were frustrating me.

Weak excuse from a wolf, you got frustrated by the exact thing you profess to be doing this game.  

 

 

can you explain caus eI dont understand what ure saying here

[Pralaya]

Alright, back from the weekend and caught up.

 

Yeah, Cory was just a kill to take out a dedicated player who was more or less read town by all. Trying to use that to make reads based on that doesn't help at all

[Wildfire Sedai]

WOW..just WOW....I thought for sure I would have at least a page or two to read and there's only 2 posts

[Pralaya]

I don't think that NK clears anyone. It looked like a strong player kill. Not even a cop hunt. 

 

If it was a cop hunt, Hallia is clear.

On the other hand, Corny revealed as town does look for some people. Namely Darthe and Crusher.

 

I don't see either of those going aggressive against Cory as scum. There is just no purpose to that. He was never going to be lynched. They would have just gotten heat unnecessarily by randomly going against town Corny.

[Pralaya]

Wow, we are split.

 

Feeling better about Tiinks posts...

[unvote]

I kind of like this unvote post by Hallia. She made this post when Lenlo and Tiinker were tied at 5 votes. There is likely no reason why a scum would unvote against a town lynch, if Lenlo/Hally are w/w..

Maybe to get townie points? Unlikely. In that case, I would have seen her vote Lenlo, if hally was scum and Lenlo is town.

 

Hally is likely town here.

[Pralaya]

I shouldn't have switched from lenlo :( sorry town

 

Prob useful to look at who moved around and why. If they're v/v we're screwed, but I don't think we get two villa trains like that d1 unless the wolves are being protected by inactiveness

This post - I don't like it at all. First, it sounds fake to a degree - an emotive post after a lynch.

 

Second is the boded part. If I am town, usually I tell it as "sorry all" or "sorry everyone". Byt saying "sorry towb", it is almost as if you are not associated with that group (This is something I learnt from Ithillan's Grimoire of Mafia Solving). Minor things but it stands overall.

[Pralaya]

I don't think that NK clears anyone. It looked like a strong player kill. Not even a cop hunt. 

 

If it was a cop hunt, Hallia is clear.

Caught up fully.

 

Where I'm at:

 

Hallia

Alanna

Sooh

 

Darthe

Katiora

 

Dice

Crusher

 

~~~ THE LINE ~~~

 

NotBob

Graendal

Lenlo

 

Pralaya

 

Tiinker

 

</zandermode>

 

Getting some sleep, let's talk this over tomorrow

Going to prolly adopt these reads and carry the torch. 

 

I need more Dice and Kat to accept your spots on the list.

 

This is essentially wifom. Knowing my alignment and Tiink's, I don't agree with that Cory list at all. Most of his read for Tiinker was an associative read with me and I had never agreed to it earlier. He was looking at all the wrong spots.

 

I would break down the above list into three groups 

 

Hallia/Darthe/Crusher - Who I likely think are town

 

NotBob/Wifi(GF)/Lenlo - Cory's bottom list. I can see atleast 1 scum here.

 

Dice/Alanna/Sooh/Kat - This is the troublesome group. Sooh and Kat have some questionable posts on D1, as I had pointed out. Kat's vote on TIink especially was bad. Dice is better than the others in the group, I wouldn't give him free pass yet. I wouldn't be surprised if there are two scum in this group.

[Shad_]

mornin'

 

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Lenlo (1): Alanna

Dice (1): Darthe

 

Not Voting: Hallia, Pralaya, Crusher, Katiora, Lenlo, GF, NotBob, Sooh, Dice

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

[Darthe]

 

I shouldn't have switched from lenlo :( sorry town

 

Prob useful to look at who moved around and why. If they're v/v we're screwed, but I don't think we get two villa trains like that d1 unless the wolves are being protected by inactiveness

This post - I don't like it at all. First, it sounds fake to a degree - an emotive post after a lynch.

 

Second is the boded part. If I am town, usually I tell it as "sorry all" or "sorry everyone". Byt saying "sorry towb", it is almost as if you are not associated with that group (This is something I learnt from Ithillan's Grimoire of Mafia Solving). Minor things but it stands overall.

This is a good post, remind me again how Laya is in the narrative?

[Darthe]

 

1. Darthe -- null - slightly scummy - D1 starts by saying he town read lenlo, joke posts, then goes to say crush is town pick of the day, back and forth with cory, makes a very "in your face" imo post to cory, tells hallia he has a mostly positive vibe from her, him and cory go at it again, responds to pralaya about one of sooh's posts, wants to talk to hallia about pralaya, makes comment about trolling alanna and asks tiink about sooh/pral situation, says he caught up and votes dice and talks about suss len, gives a read list, then he describes pral's wolf/town games and says how town pral is, talks about tiink and len trains and possibility of a dice one, talks about notbob posts as drivel and that tiink is town, votes len, doesn't know what he'll do if lenlo flips town, another back and forth with cory, talks about 1 of kat's posts as being apologetic, doesn't want to cfd her, another convo with cory, GGWP (whatever that means) D2 wants to lynch me, asks if dice is on, says not to give me any special treatment, asks about dice and lenlo reads, asks notbob if he thinks hallia is a wolf this game, agrees with hallia's reads, questions my read on him, talks about dice stirring up the pot again, votes dice, says town:dice never name calls, asks len where are the wolves, present aorn. The reason why I think he is slightly scummy is because he flip/flopped his town reads early on, kept on digging at cory, and how he made fun of people.

 

 

I dont even know where to begin. This assumes im a wolf to begin with, shows that youve no concept of peeking, is a summary instead of an analysis and then takes a step back from calling me wolfy to calling me slightly wolfy after you spent all your time to make it.

 

I dont want to sound like im above it but come on!

[Pralaya]

Actually, the above post from Sooh does make her look better. Using a killed town and trying to opportunistically use the reads to frame town is not something a scum would do instantly at the start of the day. They would wait for it to simmer and let someone else bring it up before carrying on with it. Sooh's post is mostly instantaneous and  is likely to come from a town. Likely. 

[Pralaya]

Alanna/kat would be my WTL today. 

[Pralaya]

Actually, [v]Alanna[/v]

[Hallia]

I'm very tempted to join you.

 

Dice shouldn't be that low.

[alannalynn]

I'm literally not going to argue semantics with you Pralaya. I don't like your reads at all 

[alannalynn]

Also, why the hell would I kill the only person town reading me? 

[Pralaya]

Also, why the hell would I kill the only person town reading me? 

 

 

Uh? Just because he townread you D1 doesn't mean that he would the entire game. You very well know that. 

[Pralaya]

I'm very tempted to join you.

 

Dice shouldn't be that low.

 

It is not a traditional town-top, scum-low list. I am just breaking it up into who I think is town, who the low posters + cory's bottom list are and the rest.