Grim Frostbitten Scumlust -- MAFIA WINS

[Tiinker]

 

NotBob when you are around can you tell me what you found wolfy about that Tiinker post.

 

Want to see something.

Overt "I'm town" posts that early needs a response. Town play is obvious when they hunt.

If you actually believed that then you would have done a lot more this game.

[Pralaya]

 

Caught up fully.

 

Where I'm at:

 

Hallia

Alanna

Sooh

 

Darthe

Katiora

 

Dice

Crusher

 

~~~ THE LINE ~~~

 

NotBob

Graendal

Lenlo

 

Pralaya

 

Tiinker

 

</zandermode>

 

Getting some sleep, let's talk this over tomorrow

Lol don't get this list really. On the other hand I'm not sure you would make such a bold list if you were mafia. In the overwatch game you at least waited until post D1 lynch before writing people's names in blue so maybe this is you playing "less carefully" since you don't have something to hide. Makes me feel better about Corny slightly.

Cory is town in this have. I more or less know how he comes after me as town and as scum. This is clear town.

[Pralaya]

I am either voting sooh or Lenlo today. Lenlo mainly because of his early vote on alanna and his comments on cory/darthe argument, which I felt was a bit fake. His argument about it being v/v or w/w didn't actually resonate with me.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

Speaking of, Hally are you around?

 

 

Sorry Darthe, getting ready for work. I feel good about Corny, Sooh and Pral the most. Kat is town. Feeling quite iffy about Alanna, but giving her time as requested.

 

^^^ seems off, in a begging the question kinda way ^^^

 

How?

 

 

Posts a reply within a minute of your question.  Looks like you knew she was online.  Maybe a discussion in the QT then a let's talk in thread.  Do not like.

[Cory Caboose]

Tiinker who do you want to vote today?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

NotBob when you are around can you tell me what you found wolfy about that Tiinker post.

 

Want to see something.

Overt "I'm town" posts that early needs a response. Town play is obvious when they hunt.

If you actually believed that then you would have done a lot more this game.

 

 

Whatevs.  When I'm here I'm posting my thoughts...what have you done...meh...I was leaning this way anyway.  

 

Vote Tiinker

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I am either voting sooh or Lenlo today. Lenlo mainly because of his early vote on alanna and his comments on cory/darthe argument, which I felt was a bit fake. His argument about it being v/v or w/w didn't actually resonate with me.

 

Give me your case on Sooh again?  

[Tiinker]

 

 

 

NotBob when you are around can you tell me what you found wolfy about that Tiinker post.

 

Want to see something.

Overt "I'm town" posts that early needs a response. Town play is obvious when they hunt.

If you actually believed that then you would have done a lot more this game.

Whatevs. When I'm here I'm posting my thoughts...what have you done...meh...I was leaning this way anyway.

 

Vote Tiinker

Lol I was going off your own post saying you hadn't done much. This is just lazy.

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Corny (1): Crusher

Alanna (1): Lenlo

Tiink (3): Corny, Sooh, NotBob

Dice (1): Darthe

 

Not Voting: Tiinker, Hallia, Pralaya, Katiora, GF, Dice, Alanna

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

[Tiinker]

Tiinker who do you want to vote today?

I could vote Lenlo, maybe notbob considering the past 10 minutes. I'm playing on mobile so I cant easily go back and refresh. I feel better about Sooh.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

NotBob when you are around can you tell me what you found wolfy about that Tiinker post.

 

Want to see something.

Overt "I'm town" posts that early needs a response. Town play is obvious when they hunt.

If you actually believed that then you would have done a lot more this game.

Whatevs. When I'm here I'm posting my thoughts...what have you done...meh...I was leaning this way anyway.

 

Vote Tiinker

Lol I was going off your own post saying you hadn't done much. This is just lazy.

 

 

It day 1.  I haven't done much cause I haven't been here much.  You have been here and other than declaring yourself town, what have you accomplished?

[Cory Caboose]

 

Tiinker who do you want to vote today?

I could vote Lenlo, maybe notbob considering the past 10 minutes. I'm playing on mobile so I cant easily go back and refresh. I feel better about Sooh.

 

 

Can you talk me through what specifically you don't like about Lenlo?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

Tiinker who do you want to vote today?

I could vote Lenlo, maybe notbob considering the past 10 minutes. I'm playing on mobile so I cant easily go back and refresh. I feel better about Sooh.

 

 

At least tell us why Lenlo?  

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

Tiinker who do you want to vote today?

I could vote Lenlo, maybe notbob considering the past 10 minutes. I'm playing on mobile so I cant easily go back and refresh. I feel better about Sooh.

 

 

Also, what made Sooh suspect and what made your view change?

[Hallia]

 

Pral what is your read on me RIGHT NOW

 

Let's put it this way. If I was a seer, you would be the most obvious choice to be peeked N0. You are town.

 

This is the initial post that tickled in regards to Pral.  I don't know that I see him saying this as scum (obviously we don't choose who we peek N0...failed hinting?  I feel like it comes from town.)

[Tiinker]

 

 

Tiinker who do you want to vote today?

I could vote Lenlo, maybe notbob considering the past 10 minutes. I'm playing on mobile so I cant easily go back and refresh. I feel better about Sooh.

Also, what made Sooh suspect and what made your view change?

I agreed with Pral on how she presented herself in an earlier post. Her explanation on why she was town reading me so hard.

[Tiinker]

Cant remember the exact posts but some of Lenlos explanations just seemed arbitrary. Commenting on things that didnt need to be.

 

I dont think scum is really pushing my train much atm.

[alannalynn]

i only share my tacos with villagers and i don't know i can give you one yet :(

Rude!

@Cory who do you lynch if Tiink flips town? Mafia?

 

Also @Cory: I didn't read that other game fully, but from what I remember, Tiink was a very active and townie wolf. What is different from there to here and why?

 

 

 

 

It's the sort of thing I say sometimes without thinking of how other folks might take it. I try and look at intent and meaning more than words nowadays and that makes sense to me, recognizing you're own lack of self awareness sort of.

Which is fine if the posts is outright scummy. Lot of people do that and post without thinking

 

The post I am talking about - this one - is completely different. It looks carefully constructed. There is nothing scummy about it in the face of it. But, that's exactly what I would generally see someone make to look good.

 

 

His game is all about that Sooh read.

 

That Sooh read that's identical to a read he just made as a villager in a previous game. He's copying himself.

 

Not good, Pral.

Can you explain this?

 

p34 can't hate Cory's or Dice's lists  

 

Still like Dice for town. Nothing I can exactly put my finger on that's leaning me that way but it is what it is.

 

#698 @Nyn, Who exactly is purely town reading Tiinker at this point? Just trying to understand the context of this post

 

Nyn feels very townie during and after convo with Tiink

 

I actually started the game aggressively towards you because I respected the job you did as scum.  Why do you think I would pick you as the person I would try and fool?  I respect your scum game, never seen your town game, only know you told me you are better as town than scum and want us to work together. This post of your are those type that scum at JN use to confuse the board and raise doubt. Not a good look for town.

Crusher what about this post makes you think he's trying to raise doubt? Can you explain that POV?

 

Reminder that my name is Alanna, btw.

 

WTL Tiinker or Lenlo right now, would probably make good counterwagons

[Cory Caboose]

 

i only share my tacos with villagers and i don't know i can give you one yet :(

Rude!

@Cory who do you lynch if Tiink flips town? Mafia?

 

Also @Cory: I didn't read that other game fully, but from what I remember, Tiink was a very active and townie wolf. What is different from there to here and why?

 

 

 

 

It's the sort of thing I say sometimes without thinking of how other folks might take it. I try and look at intent and meaning more than words nowadays and that makes sense to me, recognizing you're own lack of self awareness sort of.

Which is fine if the posts is outright scummy. Lot of people do that and post without thinking

 

The post I am talking about - this one - is completely different. It looks carefully constructed. There is nothing scummy about it in the face of it. But, that's exactly what I would generally see someone make to look good.

 

 

His game is all about that Sooh read.

 

That Sooh read that's identical to a read he just made as a villager in a previous game. He's copying himself.

 

Not good, Pral.

Can you explain this?

 

p34 can't hate Cory's or Dice's lists  

 

Still like Dice for town. Nothing I can exactly put my finger on that's leaning me that way but it is what it is.

 

#698 @Nyn, Who exactly is purely town reading Tiinker at this point? Just trying to understand the context of this post

 

Nyn feels very townie during and after convo with Tiink

 

I actually started the game aggressively towards you because I respected the job you did as scum.  Why do you think I would pick you as the person I would try and fool?  I respect your scum game, never seen your town game, only know you told me you are better as town than scum and want us to work together. This post of your are those type that scum at JN use to confuse the board and raise doubt. Not a good look for town.

Crusher what about this post makes you think he's trying to raise doubt? Can you explain that POV?

 

Reminder that my name is Alanna, btw.

 

WTL Tiinker or Lenlo right now, would probably make good counterwagons

 

 

I don't really have a lynch order yet.

 

I think the major reason Tiinker got townread in OW was because his game was very different than the Disney game where he was a more background wolf and got lynched d1. People pegged the progress as a positive but in reality it was just his game evolving - he's a smart dude and he develops from game to game and afaict has no "concrete" meta. OW was sort of a weird game as well because it was pretty wolf-controlled from start to finish, so I think it was "easier" to wolf in general.

 

Tiinker hasn't been a villager since his return - this would be the fourth game IIRC - so I could just see this being a more fatigued wolfgame.

 

I don't really know how to describe the Pral/Sooh thing other than Pral is putting much more effort into that read than all of his others which means it's important to him that he looks like he suspects Sooh. I don't know if that's legitimate or not. Nyn says it's very similar re: his read on Clov in the BT game but I feel like Pral is capable of replicating elements of his towngame especially when they are so recent. But I could be wrong, IDK.

[Cory Caboose]

I would be fine with Tiinker/Lenlo wagons today.

[alannalynn]

Okay your explanation works for me. I need to go do house things and then I'll be back around but for now [v] Lenlo [/v]

[Cory Caboose]

Do you think I'm wrong?

[Nynaeve]

#698 @Nyn, Who exactly is purely town reading Tiinker at this point? Just trying to understand the context of this post

 

Well at the time, Sooh and Hallia were. And I think I saw in your read list that even though you had him as null, you said you liked his posts so far? I think there was one more player but I can't really remember who right now. I just didn't understand what was there to be liked specifically cause I wasn't seeing it. Stances have shifted since.  But I was mostly just confused where people were getting this impression from.

[alannalynn]

in regards to what?

[alannalynn]

 

#698 @Nyn, Who exactly is purely town reading Tiinker at this point? Just trying to understand the context of this post

 

Well at the time, Sooh and Hallia were. And I think I saw in your read list that even though you had him as null, you said you liked his posts so far? I think there was one more player but I can't really remember who right now. I just didn't understand what was there to be liked specifically cause I wasn't seeing it. Stances have shifted since.  But I was mostly just confused where people were getting this impression from.

 

I think when I was reading his posts, it was more of a "this is passable but I see nothing overtly scummy" as opposed to "these are super townie posts" which is why I left him in nulls but i do see your point